/prod/ - Music Production General

https://clyp.it/w35newl1

POST MEMES

>>69288924
>You will only get feedback if you give feedback.
This is a stupid new rule. I do give feedback (lots), but I always do it in a different post to the ones with my clyps in. I don't want people to go easy on me depending on whether I was nice or constructive to other people.

>>69288924
Newfriend here.
I bought this, did I fuck up?
https://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-Keystation-49-II-Controller/dp/B00IWWZAM6

>make 2 minute sequence that I'm almost ok with (aka doesn't make me feel like hanging myself that much)
>know it would be better served as the second half of a song
>Literally, ironically can't come up with anything for the first half

Hurts.

>>69289679
hey, this is not meme at all!

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>>69289752
>no beatpads or dials to twiddle synth sounds with
You kinda fucked up but it's still a pretty good keyboard.

Get an LDP-8 to go with it, they're dirt cheap.

>>69289791
This happened to me couple of months ago, I never did finish that song.

>>69289845
Oh yeah I know, but I wasn't going to find a 49-key by a well-known company for below $100 so I decided to find something smaller with knobs afterwards to complement the keyboard, something like https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F9SX2EE/ref=twister_B00VEMRM86?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I however, have no idea if Novation stuff is good.
There's also the Arturia BeatStep.

Then there's the option of canceling now then paying more for the Oxygen MKIV instead. Should I do it?

Who ear fatigue here?

>>69290060
Me

>>69290055
>Then there's the option of canceling now then paying more for the Oxygen MKIV instead. Should I do it?
Yes, that's literally the keyboard I would have suggested if you were to have asked before ordering.

>>69290060
i have tinnitus but it is not noticable until im trying to sleep

I need some shit to listen to, where the fuck is everyone.

https://clyp.it/jbvbs401
Thoughts on this?
>Boom bap beat

>>69290594
Hey, this is pretty chill. I was getting ready to rip on you when you said boom bap (whatever the fuck that means) but this has a nice flow.

You play the keyboards/bass on this yourself?

>>69290594
making me feel quite inadequate mang

https://clyp.it/lg51bc1x
https://clyp.it/r0a21dqh
both remixes, not done. made em today because i ain't got nothing better to do.

will update as i change and improve these

>>69290624
>I was getting ready to rip on you when you said boom bap (whatever the fuck that means)
Boom Bap was a massively popular style of hip hop in the eastern United States during the 1990s. The sound originated in the mid-to-late 1980s, pioneered by groups like Boogie Down Productions and the Juice Crew All Stars. The beats consist of many variations on a simple theme: a booming kick drum followed by hard-hitting snares. The MC generally times their delivery to match the pattern laid out by the beat (notable off-beat exceptions include Masta Ace and RZA), creating a sound focused on the percussive relationship between drums and MCs.

>>69290656
>both remixes
Next time remix something good.

>>69290691
sorry I don't like shitty hiphop or something
I remixed those songs because I had access to the vocal stems and liked the lyrical content.

>>69290702
That's like saying I painted using my own shit because I had a steady supply of it.

>>69290708
What? Lol, that analogy doesn't fit. I'm not just going to shit my synths and beat on top of someone else's call it my work.

A remix, to me, is when you get those resources the original creator(s) had and you make it your own. Not just put a shitty beat on top of some other dude's shitty beat and call it a remix.

update from the shit I posted yesterday night. I tried to listen to what people pointed out as major flaws (shit being too fuzzy and overcrowded), but at the end of the day it still suffers from being baby's first chords and melodies - the track.

The synth at 0:32 will probably get the axe (as someone had suggested before), I thought by changing the synth I could make the melody work, but it's still very bad

https://clyp.it/ylix220g

it's only my second track ever p-pls no bully

>>69290721
>What? Lol, that analogy doesn't fit.
Yes it does,
>>69290702
>I remixed those songs because I had access to the vocal stems
"I had this shit to work with so I used it."
>A remix, to me, is when you get those resources the original creator(s) had and you make it your own. Not just put a shitty beat on top of some other dude's shitty beat and call it a remix.
If this is the case, what you have done is not a remix.

>>69290727
I think the drums have got a lot more potential but you need different drum sounds.

>>69290727
the second half is shit and i turned it off that overly distorted synth is gay as fuck the first half is decent though

>>69290728
No, it doesn't fit man. Its like if you try to go get some food, but your fridge is empty. What, do you expect to just pull something out of my ass? I've remixed on top of songs before and it's no fun.

I liked the songs they were from too, if that helps any. Lyrics mean something, I like the melody, ect. I don't see a problem with that.

I don't know what you're refuting. Either me not following my own definition of a remix or my own definition not matching yours. Either way, I made all of it except for the vocals, so I don't know why you don't think it's a remix lol.

>>69290747
thanks mate. I do need to learn drum machines. And use more than fucking snares and kicks.

>>69290758
Well shit, I thought that was the only thing that wasn't deadly boring. Point taken.

>>69290785
it is the sound itself you should practice making synth patches or use decent (((presets)))

>>69290785

This guy is right >>69290797
>it is the sound itself you should practice making synth patches or use decent (((presets)))
This is where you should watch all three videos in this series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atvtBE6t48M

>>69290808
this is probably the best synthesis tutorial around even though it is old it still holds today and the guy is comfy as fuck

>>69290797
Listening back, you're right, I did go way overboard with the distortion, that requires tweeking.

Thanks.
>>69290808
Thanks, I'll watch.

>>69290796
Merriam says a remix is "a variant of an original recording (as of a song) made by rearranging or adding to the original".

I got the original stems, and added my own spin on everything else. Dunno what tf you think it is but k.

Not upset lol just curious as to these odd points you're bringing up. Also >I didn't like it and thought it was gay is a great critique, will try and fix that in the next render.

>>69290835
The teacher is awesome, the lessons are simple and well explained. I've watched the whole series three times so far, I'll probably go back again just because I like the videos.

>>69290861
Yea I know, that's what they are. Remixes. Never said they weren't hun

>>69290887
>hun


yung LEAVE

>>69290891
Lol. Naw, don't plan on it. There are actually rational people on this board, somewhere, that I'd like to listen to my stuff and give me interesting and helpful insight as to their opinions about my music

Sadly, you're not one of those people ;(

>>69290944
yr dumb

>>69290944
it sucked you have everything too loud to listen to

>>69290944
>interesting and helpful insight as to their opinions about my music
Your music sounds like Owl City, which is on my top 5 most hated ever bands list. If you ever started performing that music in my physical presence, I would beat you to the fucking ground, then beat your face through the ground. Please never post another clyp. Please never make any more music. You are literally making music worse with your sacharine chords and autotuned cheesy melody driven bullshit.

There's a saying that in music, silences are as important as any of the notes. You should take this to heart. Your silence is very important.

rip discord

>>69290960
Turn your volume town. Sorry I actually master my music :T

>>69290965

yes inbred, come beat me for doing a live performance, do it. If someone who makes a shit sounding song with nothing but discordant nasty synths and slowed down kickdrums can post, I can post all I want. kys

>>69291040
>Turn your volume town. Sorry I actually master my music :T


now ur being dense, kys

>>69291040
:^)

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>>69291040
Fine keep posting. But don't be surprised if you don't get the same circlejerk response here that you get from your friends IRL. We will be brutal. Especially to MOR shite like yours.

The guys who post stuff with dischordant synths etc are usually looking for help, and we're glad to give it. Unless it's especially bad and shows no rhythm or whatever.

But you, you obviously know enough music theory/production to not need that kind of basica help. And you're using your knowledge to create truly awful music. I'd sooner listent o Merzbow than your shit and I hate Merzbow.

You are Justin Bieber tier bad.

>>69291081
So what you're saying iiissss... If I make shit music, you'll actually critique it. k

>>69291103
Please start using a tripcode so I can filter you.

>>69291040
>>69291046
>>69291069
>>69291081
>>69291103
>>69291110

WEW LAD

https://clyp.it/muadso0q

you may not like it at the beginning, but you'll love it by the end

>>69292326
>you'll love it by the end
I didn't.

so now that the dust has settled, what is the best way to accomplish a clean mix without whites and kikes on this planet? I'm planning on routing the kikes to a carbon-monoxide bus and apply a filter on the crackers, is anything else there I could do?

My gear is a 21st century genocide-set and masses of power

>>69292351
why not? :(

>>69292402

Hello pal!!!!!1 I've got an advice for you, in case you really wanted to pursuit such a honorable goal: Get fucking CYCLONE B, A.S.A.P..

Prepare a big room with no reverberation and throw some pennies and a rubber doll of an african inside it, the kikes and whities will get inside it faster than you could say leech

don't equalize! as soon as they're all inside, drop the granulate inside the room and close all doors, remember to say: "happy thanksgiving"

>>69292402
>>69292623
wew, the edge is killing me right now

>>69292824

https://clyp.it/hbnognql

allright is this okay guys are the levels okay? Listened to it so much i need some opinions :)

>>69292326
would work on sound design and would make the arrangement a little bit less random. especially the drums.

>>69290594
sounds really good dude. maybe add some drum breaks?

so now that the dust is settled, I am flume, ama.

like,comment,subscribe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUX-VCGAsD8

>>69292845
nix?

>>69292326
I didn't either. idk what you were going for with that. The mixing is alright though.

r8 senpai desu
https://clyp.it/hofvbo52

How do you get the indie-alternative-folk-ish kick drum sound? Is it just a kick drum with a low tom?

>>69290656
Serious question, do you have autism?

>>69293275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGgYDUkpE0U

>>69290965
>>69290944
I'm actually kind of curious now

How do you guys feel when you accidentally copy something? I spent about 5 hours on a song a few days ago, and when I put on some music a few hours after finishing it, I realized it sounded a lot like Skip Divided by Thom Yorke, got mad and scrapped it. Has this ever happened to you guys?

>>69293542
>How do you guys feel when you accidentally copy something?
Bad

>>69293542
Depends on what genre you're making, I guess it's a plus if you're making hip hop. The more similar the better.

>>69288924
can someone explain why stereo songs feel like they're floating, but mono songs feel like they're locked to the ground?

Not necessarily locked, but certain sounds feel more present than all airy and far away like stereo songs do.

Just felt like making some jungle tunes.
>https://clyp.it/1tle3wlh

How's that for a jungle tune? What do you think of the bass here?
I used kind of an ancient technique for it. Also sorry for the Serum preset pad.

Do you know of any good techniques of getting that classic jungle sub bass?

>>69293538
About?

>>69294148
I do. I'll write it up as soon as I get back.

>>69294148
>https://clyp.it/1tle3wlh
Okay so- this is good, I love the beat. But those synths REALLY hurt my ears. You need to learn to refrence, because if your headphones are really dull in the high end and you make something that sounds right to you, its going to be super sharp to people with normal headphones.

Anyway, if you can bring down the 4-7k range by two or three db, that should help considerably.

Sidechaining the drums to the bass will help considerably. But some compression on the master would help even more to get your bass to agree with your beat. I'd personally put a faster decay on it as well, though that's just me.

>>69293625
> I guess it's a plus if you're making hip hop. The more similar the better

fuck no

>>69294677
Okay buddy, even edm is less generic than hip-hop atm.

>>69295005
ok, yea, I should have added an explanation. the rule is "the more similar the better", but good hip hop isn't really that similar to the nigger shit out there

>>69295081
Yeah, I work as a dj, and it's cringy af when white bois come up to you and request hood shit with like 10k views? Fucking nigger culture man.

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is the Op-1 worth the money?

I haven't been using my push lately and have been looking for something I can make music "Out of the box" with...although maybe it's a good idea for me to actually own a daw lmao

>>69292096
>tfw there is a beefting on /prod/

>>69293950

Psychoacoustics.

Your brain uses what it picks up as phase relationships between sounds arriving at each ear (and tiny differences in arrival times at the same) to work out where it believes sounds are coming from in the 3D space - if you have your monitor speakers set up and positioned properly, a dual-mono sound (an identical sound played at the same level from both speakers) will seem (to your brain) to be coming from neither speaker but instead from a single "virtual" speaker located right between them, similarly the same sound with one side slightly time-delayed will be interpreted by your brain as having more stereo width.

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>>69295626

>>69295486
It looks gorgeous but it's overpriced shite. Not worth the money at all.

>>69293542
Indifferent. People have been taking ideas from other music, both intentionally and unintentionally, since the beginning of time. I'm not trying to bite a part note for note, or even try to emulate someone's style, I just make stuff I like. I look at it as making something unique is a secondary goal, being able to be the best representation amongst my contemporaries is the primary. I'm not the first person to use 7th chords or a diatonic scale or whatever, and a lot of my writing comes from improvising, occasionally I improvise something and it ends up sounding like something else. It's not the end of the world for me, but if I can't make it work and sound better than what it sounds like I don't use it, no point to.

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Goddamn I'm tempted to back this once it hits Kickstarter, shit looks neat.

https://ask.audio/articles/this-modular-midi-controller-specialwaves-mine-is-smart-customisable-sexy

>>69296146
you owned it to say so? or you're from an outside perspective?

Thanks for your input either way!

>>69290060
Its bad when your ears, hands and eyes fuck out

>>69290060
>take advantage of long weekend to mix a bunch of tracks
>spend Wednesday after to Saturday morning mixing
>ear fatigue like crazy
>go to family thanksgiving Saturday night
>60 people in a small hall with really high ceilings
I feel like I'm listening to a white noise generator hooked up to the loudest pa while standing right next to it. I can't hear anybody talking to me, I'm getting sick to my stomach. This is horrible.

How do I make these drums not sound shitty
https://clyp.it/i0pqorye

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I think I finally finished this. Took forever but I'm happy with it, except for the verse. I'd much rather have an original one rather than an acapella track I found online. So if any of you guys know someone who can rap and has a means to record with fairly good quality, let me know.
>https://clyp.it/wit5ca1y
>(water) trap
>hip hop
>808s for days
>little sprinkle of wubs

I also finally got around to (mostly) finishing this. There's still some rough parts though.
>https://clyp.it/iu2mgbnu
>synthwave
>remix
>Rihanna
>80s

I'll post feedback on your guy's tracks in my next post.

>>69298176
>https://clyp.it/i0pqorye
The snare doesn't sound bad but you could change the kick and hi hat. I have a pretty good vinyl drum sample pack if you want me to upload it. Otherwise, it's really not that bad.

Who /bitwig/ here?
It's like 100 bucks off today.

What are the 3 best Windows compatible DAW's (other than Ableton and FL) ?

https://clyp.it/bmqx10ac
here's ya'll another new one.

if it sounds weird its because i haven't been able to reference it yet

need to fix sidechain, its fucked in the first bit. will post update once i do it.

>>69299777
depends what's best for you
shit's personal preference as fuck

>>69299777
pirate all of them, try them all out, whichever one you like the most buy and delete the others. or just keep pirating it idfk, idk anyone who actually buys daws anyway.

https://clyp.it/tic3ub3i
making some shit for a friend to rap over and put on soundcloud criticism yes thank

>>69298160
>I feel like I'm listening to a white noise generator hooked up to the loudest pa while standing right next to it. I can't hear anybody talking to me, I'm getting sick to my stomach. This is horrible.
Literally how i hear people in crowds all the time
I have average hearing in other situations

Hey /prod/
So I was browsing through my sample library and I decided to look in the 'loops' folders I usually pay no attention to. I have to ask, do people actually use these?
It seems to me that anybody could pick a few loops and make an entire song, do you think that's fair?
What are your thoughts on loop sounds in music production?

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Ever work on a harmony for a while and have no idea if it even makes sense anymore from listening to it over and over?

https://clyp.it/rzmq4hyz

>>69300662
lots of hits have them, usher's love in this club and lady gaga's judas would be two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDpk4ZNEgm4

https://youtu.be/NVHvnpoVTGY?t=93

Love in this club's loops are in fucking garage band for example.

Sup /prod/

I have a yamaha keyboard that I want to start recording music with, but I literally have zero additional equipment. Wat do

>>69300952
plug it in your computer's line in
record that shit in a daw of your choice

>>69300990
the problem is that when I plug it directly into my computer and listen back with audacity there's so much static and it sounds like ass. When I use my headphones with the keyboard it sounds fine tho

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Hey folks, I'm looking for a cheap beginner controller to use with GarageBand/FL. I found this midiplus controller for $60

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00WU6FDNG/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1480202123&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=midiplus&dpPl=1&dpID=51lJ58R3sYL&ref=plSrch

Is there a better one I should get for something under $80? I just want something simple to hook up and use to make some light chill beats, nothing too complicated. Can anyone help me? Thx

>>69301013
then get a little interface like the scarlet 2i2 if your mainboard sound sucks

>>69301101
that's expensive as shit tho

>>69301091
you don't need this shit to make beats so don't worry and spend the money on crack instead.

>>69301324
m8 that's one of the absolute cheapest interfaces that's not complete trash

Ni hao /prod/.
Didn't knew where to ask for help but just in case :
I got the Roland midi to usb adapter for my TD4KP V-drum.
It works on my PC, and I wanted to try it on my Surface Pro 3 (which is basically both a PC and a tablet).
Thing is, the Roland adapter light doesn't turn on like it should when I plug in the Surface...I tried unplugging, rebooting, etc... The adapter is 3.0 USB but that shouldn't change anything I suppose?

>>69300752
It's ok

>>69301324
less than 100 bucks on ebay ya cheapo

>>69301325
What do you mean i don't need it? It makes it actually viable to make a decent song though no?

>>69294185
The clyp

>>69300662
Drum breaks were the back bone of early hip hop til(and even after) drum machines started hitting the used market. It was at one point the standard for putting music on a track before computers and midi changed the game, til money started showing up in hip hop and talented musicians started manning synthesizers, tr808s and DAT machines to create tracks. Still is widely used, but samples open you up for potential lawsuits, Pharoah monch would have taken off in the 90s, but they shelved his album because they didn't clear the godzilla sample. They released it eventually without that song, but his initial hype fizzled out. More recently Timbaland got sued for an uncleared sample.

I don't use samples much, but when I do I usually throw them in Slicex in FL Studio and chop them up. If you're lucky to get an old recording with clean hats you can cut out from 2 different parts of the loop you can get this really cool glitchy out of phase sound having them play 8th notes alternating back to back.

Sampling is something I always wanted to learn, but even though I have a broad taste in music that goes across decades and genres I don't have enough to pick good samples and keep them interesting. It seems you really have to take a lot of time listening to music you've never heard and taking notes of the stuff you like so you can go back and grab it later.

Some people look down on it saying you're not creating anything, but most music is created by either collaboration in composition or performance, I see it as your contribution to both aspects.

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>>69302013
I mean it's completely unnecessary, I don't fucking know of anybody who uses these things to any significant degree while composing/creating music, maybe while "performing" live (although live electronic performances might be the wankiest shit ever) but not while composing.

Don't bother buying shit just get practicing in the DAW and get learning, gear is not the answer to your fucking woes more skill is.

>>69301952
Alternatively, what would be a decent laptop setup to play live with VSTs?

>>69302048
I don't mean samples like drum breaks.
I mean pre-made melody loops from sample packs

>>69302096
I believe you, is there anything I should get to make it as simple/easy as possible?

>>69302207
I know, the only time I mentioned drum breaks was the first sentence.

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>>69302238
probably a keyboard/midi controller type setup in order to work on chords and harmony etc.

>>69302280
Something like this?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00VHKMK64/ref=pd_aw_fbt_267_img_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=891TRXDVD0YGWQ21G5DC

>>69302319
that has minikeys so might be a bit hard to play, I'd just look for a second hand big one on craigslist or something.

best Focusrite audio interface for hooking a mic to a computer?

>>69303907
uh

whatever one you can afford.

>>69303907
focusrite 2i2 because the solo only has shitty rca outputs

>>69303907
2i2 lets you use 2 mics simultaneously, and has trs outs for your monitors.

Solo lets you use 1 mic and only has the rca style jacks for monitors.

>>69290073
Hey, haven't bought it yet but I wonder, is the midi output a must or is it a luxury exclusive for 200$+ keyboards?

Is it better to stick to soft synths than buy any actual synths.

>>69305598
Depends. Are you going to just release tracks to soundcloud, or do you perform live?

I play in 2 bands that regularly gig, so I need to have keyboard synths. If I didn't play live, I'd probably still have analog synths, but it would make /prod/ reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee much harder.

>>69305598
Soft synths cause you can't download a car.

What's the best minimal setup I can get most out of my production? No laptop/DAW allowed.

>>69306140
start with the beatstep pro and work outward
a lot can be done with two monophonic tracks, a drum machine, and your two hands

>>69304471
they'll allow you to use it with synths if you ever get into that

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I think MIDI is going to outlast USB
I know it seems impossible, but USB is not very durable mechanically, whereas I don't think I've ever found any fault midi sockets. Midi cables tend to hold up well too.

I think that USB needs to be replaced with some sort of serial bus with a machined connector, not a stamped one like USB. The apple lightning adapter comes to mind as a viable replacement.

MIDI is going to last because there still isn't going to be an easier way of plugging two synths into one keyboard than a plain old fashioned MIDI cable.

>>69302098
Does your surface not work?

Is there a midi device were I can play on a midi channel and then move to another midi channel?

>>69308148
I remember most older midi controllers can do this. I don't think modern ones can.

>>69300662
I believe most sample and loop packs are the leftovers of those who make them.

>>69302238
It is not a simple thing to do. Its like learning a few languages. I mean if you're a good musician and you had a techy friend or paid someone to mix your stuff then maybe you could put out something good. But it is not easy and the main thing that will get in your way is yourself / motivation because creating a good track stops being fun pretty quickly and becomes work. Also doing it alone there are numerous things that'll sound wrong to you and you won't know why, and don't know what you don't know. Music production is something you can dip into if you're prepared for it to be a hobby, but if you want to create anything of quality you will have to spend years learning.

>>69303907
I got the 2i4 because it has midi in and out which is exactly what I needed and I think its practically the same price as the 2i2

https://clyp.it/eeamdv32

How is it?

>>69307165
Is it extremely useful for a newbie? I believe I could use this keyboard for a while then sell it to get some cash and buy a better one. Does that sound good?

>>69310384
it is just incase you decide one day you want hardware with midi connection its good to have because you wont need to spend more on an interface in the future

>>69298949
>tfw give feedback all the time but rarely post my own stuff
>finally post something
>no feedback

Accurate.

just downloaded Fl how did I do?

https://clyp.it/bisenvkr

>>69311661
I'd put a dash of delay on the drums

http://www.thewhippinpost.co.uk/tools/delay-time-calculator.htm

>>69311775
On which track? The first or the second? Both of them already have pretty heavy reverb on them. Are you sure delay won't be too much?

>>69311822
Just they sound to me too dry, I'm thinking the snare / clap. I read in a mixing book I think its mixing secrets for small studio about the way barely perceptible delay kind of fattens up things particularly vocals and drums but anything. He talks about matching to tempo as well. That dry sound you have makes it sound amateurish to me, no offense.

Also some of the balances of the synths aren't quite right, as in they stand out too much.

You're stuff's getting there though, some of the best I've heard here, though I don't listen to much.

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https://splice.com/airborn89

>some ableton projects
>stems available upon request on most tracks

r8 my wip prod

https://clyp.it/rgfwy5yw

>>69312532
nice meme

new trap meme m8s

https://clyp.it/e4cjw5yf

>>69312576
t y

>>69312684
Not bad, I would maybe change the bass sound to something less distorted, then use a distorted 808 kick, tune it and pitch shift it to the notes the bass it hitting(syncing it with the original kick), and layer the current kick, 808, and bass together. And where are my obnoxious hi hat rolls bro? I need those to set my wrist to when I'm whipping up rocks

>>69311742
kek
Some seriously avant garde stuff

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>tfw DAW has a mono

>>69313363
>I would maybe change the bass sound to something less distorted, then use a distorted 808 kick, tune it and pitch shift it to the notes the bass it hitting(syncing it with the original kick), and layer the current kick, 808, and bass together.
I will try that in next on. Cant wait till I sell this shit to some niger

>>69298949
>>69311661
Slanga is pretty clear that you know what you're doing

The work remake seems kinda out of place but maybe cause I've heard the song before with different instrumentals.

Fuck it, I'll rap on your shit, gimme an email

https://www.masterclass.com/classes/deadmau5-teaches-electronic-music-production
So this is happening.
hope there might be a torrent someday

Should I -6 gain on the pre of my master bus? A local producer advised me to so but I don't understand why

>>69316740
So you won't clip and there is some space for mastering, but you don't have if you since the DAWs can't really clip, unless you export it out. But I might be forgetting something

>>69316971
but you don't have to if you produce on PC since the DAWs can't really clip*

What's wrong with my tune guys

https://clyp.it/d0bduyzw

It misses something and is average. But I can't figure what it is (ignore drum intro tho, it's not worked yet).

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are you getting better guys? i feel as though even after following a variety of tutorials i still get this muddiness.

my tracks are all spread out with their own space, and i usually cut 250-500hz on anything that's interferring with my bass.

that and some sends for early/late reverb i should be getting some nice airy sounds but it just doesn't work.

in any case best wishes.

hey guys, I'm fairly new to producing and just bought a behringer umc202HD interface. How do i set it up to use it as an amp for headphones/speakers?

>>69317622
>What's wrong with my tune guys
It changes from a cool drum intro to a shitty boom clap song.

>>69318166
>Connect it to a computer
>???

>>69318235
nothing's happening my dude. I'm assuming i need drivers?

>>69318260
Check the manual

any anyone give me some feedback on this? https://clyp.it/a3lvs0au

anyone use a surface pro/book with their daws?

It's time I buy a new laptop...

https://clyp.it/qgojuyab

i did it,i made a genric dance beat

now to fuck it up completly and never work at it again

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rate

>>69319910
rape dungeon/10

>>69314254
I like this pic

>>69317622
>nice drums replaced by clapfest
Come on nigga.

What's the difference from putting the master bus' level fader -6db?

>>69316971
>>69320914

>>69320914
>what happens when I lower the volume

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>midi controller works perfectly with FL Studio and Renoise
>doesn't work at all with Ableton and Bitwig

>>69321000
hmm, really waters your garden

>>69321000
hmmm actually dries your desert

>>69320914
None don't worry about it

Common practice is bringing every track (except the master) down to -10dB at the beginning of the mix to make sure there's headroom. Prevents the problem of "I want this snare louder, but the fader is maxed out".

>>69321096
>Prevents the problem of "I want this snare louder, but the fader is maxed out".
Why not just turn everything else down?

>>69321000
what midi controller

>>69321138
Samson Graphite 49

>>69321113
That's one way to do the exact same thing

The other way is just turn things down at the beginning so you don't have to do it later

>>69321238
>>69321113
Also it's annoying to do once you're far into a mix because of volume automation and shit. Just easier to do at the beginning

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>>69321000

>>69321162
http://www.harmonycentral.com/articles/how-to-use-mackie-compatible-controllers-with-daws

try this and hopeful you get it working

Where do you find acapellas?

>>69321544
Internet

>>69307978
It does now. I just had to dl a driver for the Roland adapter.

But even with Asio4all I got latency.
Will buying some kind of audio interface fix this? (I suppose so but I'm a real beginner).
If so, what kind of audio interface should I look for?

>>69321620
Epic. The internet already told me looperman.com but that site is trash so I'm hoping you guys would be helpful.

>>69321632
Scarlett 2i2

>>69321678
Youtube

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>>69321678
3 seconds. The list goes on. Go to YouTube if you're desperate.

What DAW should I get if I've never paid for a DAW before? Should I just save up for Ableton live 9 and use that for the rest of my life?

>tfw u sneakin through prod stealing people's clyps to use as samples in your horrible vaporwave

i desecrate u all

>>69322260
which ever you want, m8

>>69321544
make them

utagoe tutorial

>>69322278
Yeah I know but what are some good ones?

>>69322260
whatever daw you feel the most comfortable using

>>69322304
doesn't matter

>>69322305
I havent used anything except for audacity and I hate it,

>>69318453
sounds like something someone named "limeboy" would make

>>69322340
audacity isnt a daw

just demo different ones until you find one that clicks with how you work

>>69322340
Download some demos and see what works best for you

>>69311742
ur ready to go on tour

>>69322260
Are you looking to do electronic music? Are you leaning more towards the performance side or the writing/recording side?

>>69322420
writing/recording, and Ill be recording guitars, percussion, synth (through a guitar amp) and possibly vocals

>>69322556
Probably cubase i guess
(which genre btw ?)

>>69322598
idk, probably folk, probably some drone'-y, totally pretentious synth stuff as well. Maybe some influence from English Settlement/Skylarking/Apple Venus era XTC and Merriweather and/or Sung Tongs era Anco, but of course not a complete ripoff of either of those, kinda interested in Fleet Foxes and Fever Ray as well

>>69322598
>>69322660
thank you

>>69322556
Get reaper. It's free and works well for that sort of thing. Ideally I'd say pro tools but that's expensive (though I think they have a simplified free version now) and Reaper is comparable to pro tools.

>>69322660
Nice

>>69322694
Im actually downloading that right now

>>69322822
it says it's a free trial but it lasts forever

>>69323204
alright cool, now I need to find a way to record using a computer mic, I know those always sound awful, but I honestly dont have a microphone with me at the moment, I just want to check how it works, but I dont know how to set it that way, I'm a little new t b h

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I've already been waiting almost a month, and they keep pushing the "back-order" date further and further. I can't take this anymore, I don't think I'm gonna make it /prod/. When I'm gone, tell my story. x_x

>>69323252
find the audio preferences then from there find the input configurations, there should be one for your laptop mic

started this an hour ago, what do you guys think?

https://clyp.it/0firtitp

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>>69323708
I like it anon. That stab is great when it comes in. It's missing something though... maybe layer the stab with something else, a bass sound. And make the frist one heavier than the second one in each repetition.

JYOO Jyoo.... JYOO Jyoo.... JYOO Jyoo...

But i like its energy.
>mfw

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https://clyp.it/raka2z4z
Still working on it. Let me know what you think. I know i need to change the background arp but taking tips on how

>>69323827
yo thanks a lot man and thanks a lot for the advice i'm definitely trying shit out right now

>>69323625
What are those. Advantages over regular mic?

>>69323647
thank you, on windows 8 so I had to choose a different audio system, god I cant wait to get an actual mic and audio interface so I can make actually decent recordings, thank you for the help

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Not music prod, but felt I should post it to /mu/ too.

From /ck/. Just made this. Maximize second window.

http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/583b6c255553c-m-o-d-e-r-n-b-r-u-t-a-l-i-t-y.php

stay kvlt

>>69323963
that's regular mics, m8

>>69323963
They are a regular mic anon. They're just a matched pair so they're tested to make sure they sound as identical as possible. They also have 6 removeable capsules so you can make each mic omni, cardioid, or hypercardioid. The fact that they have built-in filters and pads is great too.

Also, there are lots of trade-off you have to consider when buying mics. Highly sensitive mics aren't as good for close miking/loud sources, and dynamic range, max SPL, S/N ratio, off-axis response, etc. all have to be considered based on what your priorities are.

This pair of mics is far-and-away the best choice for me, for what I do. Quiet, sensitive, high SPL handling, not the world's great off-axis response but much better than cheaper mics. They spec-out close to the similar $900 Rode matched pair of NT55s. It was a stretch for me to afford these and if they never restock and cancel my order I'm gonna be devastated. I have the next best thing lower (MXL 603s) and I'm not crazy happy with them anymore. Can't even nearly afford the Rodes. ':|

>>69323963
Small diaphragm condenser mics. Good for string instruments, and recording in stereo. Here's a basic explanation of different mic types:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2edewYkE_f0

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>>69324074
>tested to make sure they sound as identical as possible
at work we have these fucking drawers: you just take out any two and they will sound identical
and that's mics from 4 decades
neumann is fucking magic

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>>69324227
Well yeah the likes of Noyman and Tellyfunken are perfect marriages of fucking art and engineering and as such cost as much as light dental work in the US. They are fucking magic!

Fun Fax: I bought 3 pairs of MXL 603s and 2 pairs of additional omni capsules for them. This gave me 6 mics with 6 cardioid capsules and 4 omni capsules so I could test them and match them all myself, and then return the other 4 mics and 2 capsules :3

>>69324325
neat. that's a good idea if you got a free field(ish) room

>>69323708
>https://clyp.it/0firtitp

That's a fun bassline but that stab fucks shit up IMO , go back on that and pick something that meshes well enough with the other instruments just enough that it supports the groove

>>69323988
You're welcome. I hope to see you around here more

>>69324481
hmm I definitely see what you're saying from like a groovy minimal perspective but I was trying to do something more in terms of future house with HI-LO shit and those metallic stabs

>>69324462
free field(ish) but i got some tricks up my sleeves as well. also it doesn't really matter unless you're trying to get absolute mic responses. i was interested in the variations from one to another. they should be pretty accurate down to about 40Hz though, but again, just wanted to match the two that deviated from one another the least.

they musta known i was up to something when i returned everything but one set of each

>>69311742
fuckin incredible

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Woooo what's everyone up to tonight?

https://clyp.it/kd4vqnl3

>>69324511

I think the stabs sound great, they're a little too loud that's all but they don't need to be brought down to mega-safe levels, just enough so they don't cause peaks in club systems.

Overall the track is grand though - wouldn't mind hearing a full, finished version.

https://clyp.it/ruqmsg4n

https://clyp.it/bkijep2h

Trying to go for a Dex/Uzi/Yachty type sound. Neither are finished. Still trying to get a hang of FL.

ok listen I need a juno 60 but cant afford one so what are my good options, is it worth saving up for or are there better ones at a better price? Has to be analog with an arpeggiator

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>>69324802

First post here, babbys first retrowave, go easy on me (I know the mix isnt very well done yet, but what about the music itself, is it too generic retrowavey?)

https://clyp.it/l5gq2qib

>>69324802
>https://clyp.it/ruqmsg4n

Getting some Blank Banshee vibes from the middle of that one

>>69311742
Fresh

please don't flame me for trying to make hardstyle

https://clyp.it/3lywmwgg

>>69324758
yooo you're right I already took the stab a tad down and thanks a ton for your words <3 <3 <3

literally the most cliche thing ive ever made

https://clyp.it/2we4u5v3

>>69325054
It is, but it sounds good m8. Han'Zimmer churns stuff like this out all day and he's a polymillionaire!

https://clyp.it/lkf3djvr

>>69324983
>https://clyp.it/3lywmwgg

Kicks at 0:52 arent nearly punchy enough, I thought they were still part of the buildup to the actual kicks on my first listen kek

Other than that, it already sounds well made.

https://clyp.it/xwgfqzjc
lil update from yesterday. now you can actually hear the processing

>>69311295
Is hardware synth in anyway better than working on DAWs?, because if that is true then I'm probably better getting an Arturia Keystep instead of the Oxygen

do these drums sound shitty?
https://clyp.it/qcaqys52

>>69325625
kicks**xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>>69325408
It's still shit. Awful synth voices, boring drum sounds/beats. Bland syrupy vocal.

>>69325603
never owned a hardware synth so i cant say if its better or not but i think the keystep looks like the better controller for hardware integration

>>69325651
thanks for the actually helpful input this time.
i take it you don't like vocoded vocals?

https://youtu.be/9oQsKRyihEA?t=38 like explained here in this video, you don't always really need to have overly complex drums in a song to make it sound good. The reason I went with a more basic kick/snare setup rather than going crazy like I do from time to time is because of the dotted quarter note structure of the entire song (long short rythm) which typically, in about every time this shows up in popular music, is supported by a more simple and straightforward drum pattern, like the one I laid down for this track.

if you prefer more advanced drum samples, one could find them in this current wip https://clyp.it/bmqx10ac

>>69325776
I saw some guy plugging it to a bunch of Volcas and doing stuff. Looks fun actually.

Well, nevermind, I will go for the Oxygen MKIV. If I want to change keyboard (And I doubt it will happen soon) I sell it and get a better one.

Thanks for the help, man.

>>69325603
>Arturia Keystep
Just learn to use piano role. It works great (unless you're using ableton lol)

Micro/Minibrutes are siickk, get one of those if you can.

>>69325836
I have Sonar Artist. Got it on Steam on sale so I said why the fuck not.

So far the only thing I have against it is that it seems like nobody uses it so there's barely any tutorial out there.

>>69325865
Loooooaaaddsss of people do, as far as the analog synth community is concerned. Its pretty simple, you'll get used to it eventually.

Hell, I know people in churches who use those for church music at some of these huge- and I mean maaaassiiiivveee megachurches.

FL is preferable, for me that is. Honestly doesn't matter, as long as it has VST support you'll be golden (can always pirate if need be)

>>69325903
What's so special about Sonar and analog synths?
Good thing about the Oxygen is that it comes with some small but nice VSTs (Keystep comes with an incredible number of ZERO). Anything helps, actually.

Also, this Sonar came with Z3T4+ 1.5, shoud I invest in Z3T4+ 2?

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Hey prod, it's me, Anonymous.ogg
How's work this weekend? I thought to come in and say hello

>>69325962
If you want, I can email you some amazing free vsts. Shit like ambience, synth1, ilosynth, and countless other things that can really help.

I personally recommend Massive. Its honestly what some amazing professionals use to make crazy sounds- I use it as well for about everything.

The reason analog > digital is because of it going through an actual, physical board. For sound, the inequalities and texture this gives the sound is really hard to get on anything else. As a great sound engineer put it, digital is unforgiving but analog is very flattering.

If you had money, I'd recommend building a modular rack. But those can go into the thousands. Right now, I recommend you either pirate or actually by NI Massive and get to learn it. Envelopes, oscillators, filters, and about everything you'll need to know- same thing going for the micro/minibrute. From there, you can get more expensive and more advanced things to tailor more to what it is you wish to create- though those should be awesome all around synths to help you get started.

>>69326066
dont listen to his lies im the real Anonymous.ogg

>>69326086
>Massive
you should try serum because you can import and create wavetables instead of being limited to the ones that come with massive

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>>69326096
;_;
Why must you do that to me anon ;_;

>>69326127
sylenth if you want to make good leads and shit

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>>69326127
That and Massive is nothing more than a sampler. It's cool, but it's MASSIVELY overrated

>>69326127
nooo no need for serum, its a shit program. you honestly don't need more than what massive offers you. if you can't figure out how to make compelling music with the many things massive has over serum then you should probably rethink the way you use a synthesizer.

but what if he wants to do complex fm shit?

>>69326196
there's no need to do fucking fm synths, especially when he's first starting out. fm is reaaaally hard- trust me, i've been making music for several years on these things. both analog and digital. fm is something you really don't need to go into unless you have to.

>>69326181
you can find and import the massive wavetables into serum

>>69326237
what if he want to do ezmode brostep

>>69326255
>brostep
dont do this

>>69326086
Oh I see, a musician friend who happen to have one of those Arturia 49-keys also told me to seek midis/synths with midi ports over usb-only. My problem is all about budget so it's impossible for now.

But yeah, I can sell the Oxygen anytime and get a better keyboard.

>>69326196
Nigga I'm still babytier on this, no need to throw me down such a cliff.

>>69326255
I'm not much into -step.

>>69326327
im just spitballing. fuck brostep

>>69326336
i'm personally partial to sylenth but massive is honestly a great synth

What about Terror house?

>>69325625
>https://clyp.it/qcaqys52
no, they're just really high in the mix. bring everything up then use side compression to try and achieve the same thump

>>69326451
its aight but the thing about all of the terror genres in general (except terrorcor) as well as brostep is this:

when it is done very well, it it good fun, but there is so much shitty, low effort music being made in those genres that it becomes hard to distinguish the good stuff from the horrible stuff. It's the same thing with things like jump-up dnb.

>>69326373
sylenth is a pretty good synth and it has low cpu usage and there is alot of tutorials using it

>>69325408
wow that sounds weird, I think you just need a better mix and then you're set. I like the vocals so maybe the mix isn't too far off from something really interesting mix wise

>>69325408
That's very interesting sounding, I like it. You're mixing in headphones aren't you?

https://soundcloud.com/tarrabyte/8bit-sugar-plums
btw i got bored

>>69326524
https://soundcloud.com/tarrabyte/what-nightmares-are-made-of

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>>69326609

>>69326237
in what situation would someone "have" to get into FM synthesis?

My first synth was an fm kawaii, it wasn't that bad

>>69317622
>https://clyp.it/d0bduyzw
Is that a Takkyu Ishino sample?

>>69326648
i like fm for synthesizing drum sounds

>>69326588

I hear the headphones as well

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>>69326633
what does this mean?!

>>69326754
read the sticky

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>>69326777
oh right i legit forgot about the soundcloud bit.

I am sorry thread D:

>>69326754
>>69326796
nah s'all good m8, I have no idea wtf the autism is over people posting soundclouds. i just posted >>69326633 in anticipation of a shitstorm.

>>69326166
what? do you even know what a fucking sampler is buddy?

>>69326817
I think

>>69326983
(._. )
I thought a sampler was a VST that you had a bunch of .wavs in and shit... Like you couldn't really make it into anything else... did I get that wrong?

>>69326237
fm is really hard? been making music for around 6 months and I already understand a lot of sound synthesis, including fm. Sounds like you're just a preset fag who was too scared to try something new.

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https://clyp.it/f2clhw0e

should i kms?

>>69327252
just practice more i think the bass part sounds kind of bad and the melody is autistic but atleast youre being more creative than most of the people who post here

>>69327043
:T
well obviously you don't know anything
the thing is, a sampler modifies an audio file. might pitch it, might do all sorts of different things.
Massive generates the sound, doesn't just modify something that already exists, through something called a tri oscillator.

>>69327047
FM is hard to get right. It sounds weird even when you do. You can do it, I've never really wanted to fuck with FM because there's honestly no point but the times I have its been something I regretted getting into.

>>69327351
ah, when i looked in them a long time ago they were .wav files. I thought all you could do to it was make it sound higher pitch but not right?...

If I want to record guitar and vocals, but don't want to spend $130 CDN on both Shures, which one should I get? The 57 or 58?

>>69327394
'58

it's the same mic, the only difference is the grille. the 58 grille has a windscreen inside so it's good for vocals, and the 57 doesn't. there's a slight attenuation of very high frequencies with the 58 because of that, but really it's the exact same mic but more versatile

>>69327394
I like the 57 much more for guitar, hate it for vocals. 57 takes less of everything around it , perfect for a static object. But guitar speakers are loud, you shouldn't have to worry about picking up anything but the sound of a bad room anyways.

I like the 58 much more for vocals, it's a little more forgiving with movement where as the 57 you have be ready to deep throat it to get a clear take.

I'd get the 58, then when you can afford a good vocal mic you can sell it and get a 57.

Like the other anon said, it's the same mic, one's capsule is just surrounded on the sides more.

But if you're recording with your hand instead of a mic stand and like to cup the mic(both are bad practice) a 57 might be better.

If you have common sense though, 58. You can get passable guitar takes with an aluminum can and some wire if you position it properly.

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https://clyp.it/eivortaa

What's missing here? I'm trying to achieve a "majestic" vibe using wubs.

What's the difference between a hybrid synth and an analog model one? Does a hybrid have actual analog parts whereas a modeling one just tried to sound like analog?

>>69299916
dis dope dude

Should I change anything? Kind of wanted to add vocals but cant sing senpai.

https://clyp.it/ms1jtrz2

Here's a few some atmospheric shit I was gonna use for a game that fell through.

>https://clyp.it/hpsamuvn
>https://clyp.it/a0djnnyf

Here's some shitty house. How do I make it better?
https://clyp.it/cou3uuin

Also needs to be referenced

This some other bullshit, but I thought it was cool

https://clyp.it/d1ao5df4

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Can I get some feedback? I'm utterly stuck with this?:

https://clyp.it/viscxrbx

FWIW I'm Trying to make something along the same lines of a song I managed to finish around a year ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnB_Npv2PEw

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can any one help me with this? i can't figure out why Alieno keeps crashing

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>>69326609
so this is the kind of person who tripfags on /prod/

>>69328584
why are you being an asshole to me? I've been on prod for a while. I've not done anything to you at all.