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i got this guitar recently

Are you taunting me with that OP

>>69284669
'no'

Really, OP? it's almost as if you want us to call you a faggot

>>69284616
Anyone here done classical stuff with a steel string? It's all I've got right now and I don't like playing with a pick. Should I stick to folk?

>>69284662
Nice, how are you liking it? I like gretsch's.

>>69284749
its a good guitar, the tone is very nice and it looks good too

>>69284729
Do it, faggot.

>>69284048
I think there's some benefit to learning on a guitar with a higher action at first. Helps build up hand strength quicker, and any other guitar will immediately feel easier to play.

>>69284737
>not wanting to be part of the hybrid picking master race
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KN2qvtosmM

>>69284737

You really need that wide flat fretboard and nylon strings if youre going to play intermediate or harder classical pieces.

Fingerstyle on an acoustic works fine though, check out leo kottke for an idea of what you can pull of in the folk fingerstyle realm

>>69284725
okay cool then

>>69284881
but you probably should buy it.

>>69284836
you learned that training with master roshi at the kame house?

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>>69284616
Do any companies make electrics with wide classical style necks?

>>69284881
>>69284896
don't listen to OP, he's a faggot

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Not sure if right thread for this.

But what does /mu/ think of stick dulcimers like the Strumstick?

Diatomic instrument.

Theres also a seagull version called the Merlin which is only one octave.

Are these fun to jam on with buddies?

Are the official brand ones worth it or should I look for smaller sellers? (Or the merlin which has 4 strings. (One is doubled like mando))

>>69284896
Honestly leaning that way. I've got the funds for it

>>69284737
Sure, why not. I fuck around with classical style things on my electric every now and then
https://clyp.it/ruhsv0db

>>69284913

a solidbody? Whats the point? You need proper classical form to comfortably play neck like that.

Just get a piezo bridge or something and stick it on any old nylon string guitar

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Post Acoustics with electric pickups

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5XhhavAo3I
this thing sounds so good

>>69285087
the guitar Cobain used for unplugged was nice

I'm addicted to playing what do i do

>>69284898
I have no idea what you're talking about. I did learn to play on a shitty acoustic with really high action though. I had no idea until I finally picked up another guitar.

>>69285144
Buy more gear.

>>69285061
>>69285061
>Just get a piezo bridge
This.

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>>69284913
I think Turner Model Ones are like that kinda

(The Lindsey Buckingham guitar)

>>69285112
it really wasn't.. that was the whole point

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Are P-90s fine for occasional downtuned meddling?

I want jangly/chimey on my Les Paul for indie shit, but still fuck around with heavy tones every now and then.

>>69285358
Greg Anderson BWWWWWOOOOOOOMMMMs with p90s.

>>69285352
the fuck is this?

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>>69285358
>Are P-90s fine for occasional downtuned meddling?

>>69285358
just get a coil splitter

>>69285207
i liked the sound off it or maybe i liked Pat's

>>69285358
not really...maybe for sludgey stuff
they get pretty muddy with lots of gain
sound really good clean and slightly overdriven

they are not really chimey though, they have heavy mids and less treble and bass with a slow attack, jangley guitars usually have pickups that are pretty scooped or have strong upper mids and highs with a strong attack

>>69284858
Looks uncomfortable to use an ordinary pick like that. Usually you use a thumb pick so your index finger is free.

>>69284992
Waste of money. Just get a ukulele if you want something small and portable.

>>69285430
Burns Steer

I think they were made in the 60s, they have reissues

really weird

>>69285765
Welp. Just pulled the trigger on a P90. They're from GFS so they're cheap tho. I'll give them a whirl, if I don't like them I'll purchase some sort of PAF.

I currently have a Custom 5 which is scooped and gets muddy with distortion. I just needed something with lower output for better cleans and less mud when running distortion pedals. They should be fine for memegaze, at least until I get a Mememaster.

>>69286314
we know you told us

Why do people even bother learning to pick fast when you can just legato everything like a real pro.

>>69286540
Because it doesn't sound the same. I also play all my fast parts legato because I'm too lazy to learn proper alternate-picked shred

https://youtu.be/UyA93RbBndM
What's he doing at 5:03? Hybrid picking?
Someone explain pls it sounds so cool

>>69286684
Sounds like he's barring the 12th fret on the b and e strings. Picking the b string with his pick at 12 while going up and going up and down the e string picking with his finger & using hammers offs

>>69286832
Oh alright thanks dude :)

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>>69285087

>>69287046
Ahh the tone tape

>>69287116
you didnt put the trademark symbol

this will seem like a stupid question, but i don't know how else to pose it

i've been playing over a year, taking lessons too
i play both classic and fingerstyle/folk music

i bought an electric couple weeks ago, and I don't know how to play it. do i need to learn some classic rock songs or something? i know this seems stupid, but its just that it feels like the playing styles i've been learning are incompatible with this. i know guys like chet atkins fingerpicked on electrics and all, but it isn't the same to me, and i can't have a good time because i just can't play anything

>>69287396
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHlODWd4GeM

>>69284737
I have but I was told to play on nylon to get a better result.


>>69285041
not bad, what is it?

>>69287046
I laugh everytime

>>69287648
>what is it?
Aerosmith-dream on

>>69287713
thanks f a m

>>69287713
You're not me. Are you trying to meme on me? It doesn't even sound like that
>>69287648
It's just something I made up

why the fuck are the MIM fenders $600 now

shit used to be like $380 and that's what they're actually worth imo

>>69288213
Just wait til Trump repeals NAFTA, Fender might actually go out of business....I imagine their MIM models are a huge portion of their total profits.

>>69288004
neat

>>69288243
>thinking (((they'll))) repeal NAFTA
>thinking trump will accomplish anything but hotel deals while pence runs the show like any normal republican would

>>69288213
No they weren't

I remember my friend got a new MIM Strat back in the mid 90s (when they first started making them there) and he paid over 500 for it.

I bought a USED epiphone MIK Les Paul for 400 back then.

>>69288445
You're fucking retarded they were $370 for solid color and $400 for sunburst between 2005 and 2009.

>>69288445

The MIM Fenders have always been excellent guitars. About the same or slightly better than MIK stuff.

Guitar quality has gone up with decrease in relative price.

>>69288465
Show me where they sold MIM Fenders for $370

Made in Indonesia and Vietnam ones were that low, MIM have always been Fenders line to compete with MIK stuff from other manufacturers.

>>69288502
Are you fucking underaged this was literally the price for them everywhere for all of last decade

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I'm a newbie and recently started learning about maybe 2 months ago now. I used to play a bit every night, but then I started practicing less. I was away from home for one week recently and came back but had no real desire to practice.
How do you guys keep motivated?

>>69288525
Remind myself there are 13 year olds who play better than me

>>69288512
show me

>>69288525
Just keep listening to your favourite tunes. Even if they are insanely hard or plain simple. Just listen to whatever makes you want to play in the first place

>>69285352
That's some Tenacious D looking shit

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What memes did you fall for when you first started playing?

>fell for the "buy a metal guitar like a Jackson or Ibanez" meme
>fell for the "only consider Marshall amps even at the $200 range" meme
>fell for the "just learn tabs, not chords or musical notation" meme

>>69288525
I think that if I don't push the limits then I'll never change the history of music in my own way. I think about Charlie Christian inventing a whole new language for the guitar, having a career, and dying at age 25. (or Hendrix doing the same and dying at 27).

I figure if they can do that at such a young age, I can at least make my own mark in the history of guitar music (as small as it may be)

>>69288836
Why do ibanez and jackson get recommended so much?

>>69288004
Meme on
Meme on
Meme on
Meme til the memos come true

>>69288836
>only use ernie ball strings
Thank god that only lasted for two string changes

>>69288877
>>69288836
Ibanez is a pretty solid company. You get a better guitar at a lower price point compared to some other companies. They make more than metal guitars, they make good semi hollows and great basses. I just bought an sr505 and it's so versatile I can't believe it, plays like butter too.

Their sub $200 stuff is pretty awful though, and they made meme machines more accessible, but nobody is perfect.

>>69288877
I don't know but for someone like me that played only squiers and epiphones my whole life when I played my friends jackson it was like night and day. it was just so playable and lightweight, not like a damn ships anchor weighing me down, it had really good strings on it too, them things would bend like crazy.

>>69288836
>not ESP LTD

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Might trade my Shechter for one of these babies. Would I be kicking myself in the ass if I did?

anyone had experience with Joyo pedals?

Why do Japanese noise rock musicians almost exclusively use Gibson SGs?

>>69289568
Hipster bullshit guitar for hipster bullshit music

>>69289444
No, that's a great trade. Especially if you can find someone that is actually willing to accept a Schecter for a Gibson SG standard lol

>>69289444
>trade it in for an SG
>instantly gain an insane amount of sellback value

>>69289826

>wanting to own a nu-male guitar

>>69289842
yeah, i totally mentioned the sellback value because i wanted him to keep it

jesus you fucking mong

>>69289860

It's the principle of the thing.

>>69288965
>I still use ernie's on mine except my acoustic, which I have copper D'Addarios

>>69289954
They play fine but they rust too quickly. Breaks in about 1-2 months too. Maybe it's just because my country is humid as hell

>>69290090
i live in australia and had ernies on a guitar for a year. they were rusted to fuck but still played fine. Use D'Addarios now though

>not having 5A wood

>>69288836
>jet city
>bugera

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>>69290473
>tfw only have 4A maple top

>>69290550
throw it in the trash. Your tone is going to be shit.

Unless you play shoegaze, tone doesn't matter.

>>69290565
Thanks, friend!

I'll start saving again

>>69288836
Literally why does anyone buy a jackson or ibanez. I've never met a metal song an SG couldn't stand up to PLUS it has beautiful clean tones to boot.

What's the best simulated amp for guitar (and maybe bass)? And wtf is the difference between BIAS FX and BIAS Amp?

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i havne't looked at this item since i bought it on amazon over a year ago and was comparing prices. that was one house on other side of the state and two complete wipes of my drive ago

time for a vpn

>>69290827
Are you logged in to an account on that page?

>>69289842
wut

>>69287046
Why do you have electrical tone tape over the nut?

>>69290894
nope

>>69290759
sgs are ugly. Personally I'm an ESP guy

I've been looking for a decent dual looper pedal and found the ditto x4 but it has a lot of unnecessary features I don't want. Do you guys havr any other recommendations? I'd prefer a dedicated stop button because I'm mostly gonna use it on the fly like I would in a live performance.

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this seems like a good deal. i was originally going to try and find some funky pawn shop guitar to be a b-guitar in a different tuning so i don't have to fry my strings going back and forth

thoughts/opinions

This question goes out to all of you.

How do you go about playing arpeggios and chords? How do you structure your chords and arpeggios on the fretboard? What intervals and voicings do you use?

There's more than just a few ways to play the notes A C E. By ways I mean shapes. Shapes are everything. Unless you don't make stuff up off the top of your head.

>>69290759
I have a Jackson guitar and not only do I love it very much, I think it's the best guitar I've ever played aside from the Gretch White Falcon. 24 frets. Thin and wide neck. Double EMG humbucking pickups. Floyd Rose locking tremolo system (well intonated and set up because I know what I'm doing ((and read the instructions))) It just plays very well. It's set up exactly how I want a guitar to be set up. The tones I get are rad too. Bridge pickup gets a treble based tone and the beck gets a bass based tone. Well rounded.

However... I've played some very shitty Jackson guitars. Pretty much all guitars under $700 are just beginner guitars made for someone who isn't ready to spend money on something they've studied.

Asked before, but:

Micro Dark Terror, or save up for the Dark Terror? I'd go for the Tiny but no effects loop is kinda putting me off. No idea how much I'd even use effects that need the loop when I play distorted though. I do love to play clean, but I'd also love to get to Sunn O))) and Boris levels of noise/distortion.

>>69288836
>more watts = better
>get a better guitar instead of upgrading your amp

I would slap myself if I went back in time. Played an American Standard Strat through a Spider II for way too long. Wish I had just gone for a MIM and the AC15 I have now.

Worked out pretty well now with good guitars and a good amp, but could have had a better sound for much longer if I had been sensible years ago

Worth it getting a proper tube amp when playing in an apartment?

>>69291082
Maybe Boss RC20/RC30 but it has unnecessary effects too imho

>>69291833

Yes, just don't go crazy with the wattage and you will be fine. Sold my HT stage 60 when I moved into a flat as it was totally pointless and unusable.

Obviously you won't be able to gun it, but you can put an overdrive pedal through the front end and get a really good sound at a manageable volume. You get very low wattage ones for this purpose as well if you don't plan on gigging it, but 10 - 15w ones seem to be a good compromise and can handle small gigs too. Any bigger gigs and you can just mic it up.

I'm looking for a max 200€ home practice amp(might use for jamming with some friends). Should i get a Mustang II, Roland Cube 20gx(or 40gx), Boss Katana 50 or Blackstar ID Core 20?

>>69291129
If you're just beginning that's not bad. Good deal on it that's for sure. Personally I would suggest beginning with a Squire strat... not that they're amazing but they're a solid instrument for how cheap they are.

That being said I've never played an Epiphone LP Special, but assuming they're of roughly the same quality as a Squire then you should be ok.

>>69289805
(you)

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>>69292002
The Epiphone equivalent of the Squire Strat would be an Ep Les Paul 100 which are about double the price. The Epiphone Les Paul Specials are pure garbage, even for a beginner.

There's no real reason to not spend a few extra bucks for a Squire. They're not amazing by any means, but they're not as laughable.

Oh, and if you really just want a Les Paul model then just put out the extra money for the Les Paul 100.

>>69289805
>Gibson SG
>hipster

How stupid can you be?

>>69288836
I fell for the epiphone meme.

>>69289516
Don't do it

>>69288836
>Hot pickups
>too much gain

Had a little H&K valve combo that I used to run on the dirty channel with the gain maxed and wondered why it sounded shitter than my friend's spider.
>It's a valve amp so it must be good

Took me years to realize the sound I wanted was power tube distortion.

I truly was a dumbshit. Still have the amp though and it does great rock sound now I've learned how to amp

>>69290090
>>69288965
I've never had ernies rust on me, I do notice my bass starts to sound dead quicker with them then d'addarios, but on guitar they never gave me an issue. I broke a string once since 2006 when I was a dumb 16 year old in a punk band(lol down stroke like you're using a hammer), so 10 years. It broke during a gig too, when we were doing an intense cover of Superstition, I was playing a solo and dug into the d string too much and it went. My fault, they were old strings, but I don't like changing strings the day of a gig, we played 2 sets in a row 4 days straight, it was on day 3 during the first set. I got it changed, stretched, and tuned and caught the next song by the first chorus. Didn't have to really tune it for the next 2 sets, stayed in line with the rest of the strings.

Tl;Dr I never had a problem with ernie balls that wasn't my fault.

>>69288965
Fuck EB strings.

>>69288836
>fell for the "start playing bass before guitar" meme
>fell for the MIJ meme

>>69292702
>MIJ
>meme
tell me more

>>69292702
I wish I had fell for that meme earlier, I finally got a nice bass for recording and I'm starting to think I should have been a bass player all along. I'm actually considering getting a good bass amp next year and looking for a band to play bass in.

>>69292712

Not that anon, but I agree that MIJ are a meme. They are very good, but a meme.

Not enough of a step up from the MIM to warrant the cost, and even then the MIM are seriously good these days. They aren't as good as the American Standards either, don't play as well and don't sound as good. Haven't played an American Special so couldn't comment on them.

People who say the MIJ "blow the MIA guitars out the water" are talking total rubbish.

>>69292766
wew

>>69288836
I fell for all of those. Still falling fall for the first two actually. Jackson and Ibanez are both solid, and good for more than just Metal. Though I tend to play Fender's more now.

Nothing wrong with using tabs, but it's definitely important to start with chords. IMO musical notation isn't necessary if you just want to be a Rock musician.

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>>69284616
>not naming the thread

I know /gg/ loves the Yamaha Pacifica series, but can anyone point me to a specific model? I'm currently taking a gander at the PAC611HFM.

>>69293248
People here love the low end Pacifica because it's hard to find a better beginners guitar.

Higher end? Find whatever suits you and your wallet.

>>69293248
I bought that one blind once, had some QC issues and sent it back