Is the Cure good? They seem like a wimpier Joy Division making

yeah they're pretty good

This is not even a fair comparison.

First off, Joy Division is a pussy version of Bauhaus.

Second, Robert Smith was the goth songbird of the 80's. Seriously great pop songwriter, and his music will continue to and has stood the test of time.

>>69247423
This. Joy Division is for pleb idiots who can't think for themselves. A wimpier version of Joy Division would be like The Wiggles or something, it's that weak. The Cure is a thousand times better.

>>69247586
This is a tryhard post

>>69247391
There are Joy Division songs that are higher accomplishments and just better songs than anything The Cure ever did, but I probably enjoy Disintegration more than any Joy Division album

So, take that as you will

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Pornography [Fiction, 1982]

Why so glum, little boy? You got your contract and your synthesizers. Cheer up. Trust me, kiddo. It'll pass. C+

>>69248447
Christgau had a hateboner for British synthpop bands for some reason.

>>69249124
he has a hateboner for anything that is not punk, or straightforward in terms of instrumentation or time signatures

hence his heavy dislike of prog or any form of slight experimentation

>>69249124
I don't blame him, it's all cheesy melodies fronted by British guys that can't sing

That said I love New Order

>>69250112
He generally liked later Cure albums, just not Pornography.

>>69250112
>>69249124
>>69250127
Turn On the Bright Lights [Matador, 2002]

They bitch because everybody compares them to Joy Division, and they're right. It's way too kind, and I say that as someone who thanks Ian Curtis for making New Order possible. Joy Division struggled against depression rather than flaunting it, much less wearing it like a designer suit. What's truly depressing is that, just as the hairy behemoths of the grunge generation looked back to the AOR metal they immersed in as teens, these fops tweak the nostalgia of young adults who cherish indistinct memories of much worse bands than Joy Division, every one of them English--Bauhaus, Ultravox, Visage, Spandau Ballet, Tears for Fears. At a critical moment in consciousness they exemplify and counsel disengagement, self-seeking, a luxurious cynicism. Says certified British subject Peter Banks: "Emotions are standard and boring. I'd like to find another way to live." That's thinking either big or very small. C+

>>69249124
I don't like those bands either desu.

Songs from the Big Chair [Mercury, 1985]

Never one to pay much mind to the plaints of English lads with synthesizers, I got duly annoyed at the surface and let it go at that. Imagine my surprise when I discerned substance underneath--uncommon command of guitar and piano, Baker Street sax, synthesizers more jagged than is deemed mete by the arbiters of dance-pop accessibility. Even found a lyric that went "We are paid by those who live by our mistakes," not bad at all. Yet in the end the surface is still annoying--not so much pretentious as portentous, promising a depth and drama English lads have been falling short on since the dawn of progressive rock. B

Go on with the last image I want to see the final stage

only dreams now

psshh, trust me

it's over

>>69250341
>>69250127
I think he's saying that most prog bands are trying stuff that's way over their heads since most pop musicians have no training in musical composition or theory, so they just end up sounding cheesy.

>>69247391
They're barely comparable save for both being progenitor bands who started and influenced the gothic rock genre.

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Is there a Cure chart or something? Been putting off on listening to them for the longest time.

>>69247391
Robert Smith's voice is top 10 in pop imo.

>>69247391
handful of great songs in a discography sea of shit

smith should have disbanded the cure decades ago

>>69247391
this song makes me dance whenever it comes on so you be the judge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dhn_iIQXDE

Early Cure is post punk, later albums are more alternative rock.

>>69252010
Yeah, after making this I've listened to a bit more of them (including this song) and I've changed my opinion

>>69247391
I cant really say i enjoy gothic rock right now but Robert smith seems like a lovable guy. I also like their hits

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>>69247391
>The Cure is a wimpier Joy Division

Far from it. Listen to Seventeen Seconds, Faith, and Pornography - Robert had way different musical ideas than Ian and the boys. Robert Smith had also been playing with Siouxie and the Banshees in the late 70's and I think there is some strange psychedelic influence, especially in the drone-feeling Pornography era.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdvgXBsmcXw
>tfw no qt goth gf/bf
>ywn drink black coffee and smoke an innumerable amount of Portlands with them
>ywn talk about the unavoidability of death

>>69252386
>tfw I have gothic gf
>mfw this shit almost never happens
>mfw I now see why faggots like you don't get goth girls

>>69247391
>They seem like a wimpier Joy Division making Jangle pop love songs

Why ask in the first place then

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>>69252636
>"gothic" bf
>shit almost never happens

Lol. You have made a mistake, pathetic millenial leech of the subculture that you are. Pro tip: Goth isn't dressing in all black, being an edgy asshole to your parents and owning Christian Death on Vinyl.

>>69247391
>They seem like a wimpier Joy Division making Jangle pop love songs

that's why they're good

>>69252940
This is b8

>>69247391
One of my all time favorite bands
I saw them live recently and they were still amazing

>>69247391
The only people who like the cure are the ones who thought breakfast club was the best movie in highschool

>>69248447
Cuckgau's opinions are shit

>>69255656

No those are Simple Minds fans

>>69247391
>joy division
>good
never change /mu/

>>69256609

>>69256609
>implying

>>69256609
damn...

>>69256609
:o

LET'S MAKE IT A THE CURE APPRECIATION THREAD.

FAVORITE SONG?
FAVORITE CONCERT MEMORY?
SONG YOU CONSIDER THE MOST UNDERRATED?
SONG YOU CONSIDER THE MOST OVERRATED
FAVORITE ALBUM

>Disintegration
>Never been to one desu
>Anything in Japanese Whispers especially The Dream, love that shit. And Disintegration, so powerful.
>I hate Pictures of You and Friday I'm In Love, you listen to them everywhere.

>>69256685
A Forest, dat bassline
I saw them live only recently, I like how bassist Gallup looks like Robbie rotten now
Mosty songs on Bloodflowers and The Top
Boys Don't Cry and Close to Me
Disintegration easily

>>69256685
>Siamese Twins
>haven't been to one but Bobby Smith looks old and flabby now
>A Letter To Elise, This Twilight Garden and Charlotte Sometimes
>Let's Go To Bed
>Disintegration, of course
Never hate on Pictures on You again boyo.

>>69251756
I don't think there's a chart but
Seventeen Seconds, Faith, Pornography were their original goth trilogy which was later changed to Pornography, Disintegration and Bloodflowers.

For pop shit check out Three Imaginary Boys, The Head On The Door and Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me.

The Top is kind of experimental and psychedelic if you're into that.

My personal top 3 of theirs is Pornography, Japanese Whispers and Disintegration.
Charlotte Sometimes is arguably their best song though
https://vimeo.com/13421854

>>69256685
One Hundred Years
Never seen them live
Caterpillar
Friday I'm In Love
Pornography

>>69247423
>First off, Joy Division is a pussy version of Bauhaus.
This doesn't make sense since Joy Division came before Bauhaus, and Bauhaus were obviously heavily inspired by Joy Division. Peter Murphy would call you a cunt for even suggesting such garbage nonsense.

>>69256685
>Cold
>havent seen them
>Pornography
>friday i am in love
>Pornography

>>69247391
DOESNT IT MATTER IF WE ALL DIE

>>69247586
>>69247391
joy division was so fucking wimpy that the singer hung himself because he didnt like iggy popsmusic