Why is almost every musician fucking assblasted about Trump's

>>69196481
>/mu/ - Politics

Lol green day trying to stay relevant and start le revolution

>>69196481
>No Trump, No KKK, No Fascist USA
Legit fucking spilled half of my drink all over the keyboard. This can't be real, right?

>>69196481
>m-muh fascism

I wonder what it's like being 40+ but having the mind of a 15 - 16 year old

>>69196481
>posers being posers
why are you so surprised OP

>>69196481
because the media has told them he is the devil

>>69196481
Cuckservatives can't into music. It's not your fault. We need y'all to grow food, drive tractors and pick up trucks. Thank you for your service, Cleetus.

Now then, time for us liberals to get back to creating art and advancing science.

Tila Tequila is very happy.

>>69196571
>all scientists are liberals

Lmaaooooo

Looking for a crowd to make easy fans and money off of.

>>69196481
Because they're all talentless, thoughtless hacks. It has dawned on me why so much music sucks these days after seeing all the retarded celebrities parroting shit they read on buzzfeed. At least Kanye knows what's up.

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>>69196611
>beating up strawmen to show off how tough you are

Need a safespace, babby?

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>>69196481
I dont know what youre talking about, but /ourguy/ sure isn't.

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Just like in 2001, the states that lost (California, Washington, New York, Massachussetts, Illinois) are the states that grant the the USA its status as the world's superpower: all the science and technology that gives the USA the key advantage over other countries come from San Francisco, Seattle, Silicon Valley, Los Angeles, New York, New Jersey, Boston and Chicago: Apple, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon, MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Berkeley, IBM, virtual reality, artificial intelligence, the biopharmaceutical industry... you name it. These states are increasingly aware that their scientific and engineering achievements are enabling a majority of ignorant people (who doesn't even believe in their science) to rule the world. It's a paradox that only happens in the USA because only in the USA is the disconnect between the educated minority (that makes the USA great) and the uneducated majority (that elects the government) so large. Silicon Valley and Boston literally empower the likes of Sarah Palin and Sean Hannity who don't even believe in science: without Silicon Valley and Boston these people would be humble peasants scavanging for food in primitive forests and valleys instead of being influential voices that decide who rules the country. Time to undo Lincoln?

>>69196673
>donated thousands to hillary

>>69196481
>why are there so many people in this country that don't think exactly like I do?

Lefty here.

Genuinely cringed and don't want anything to do with the embarrassment known as greenday.

The right-wingers can take him please.

>>69196661
In that speech he literally implied that Pence will not protect minorities. Pence was a paying customer, he went there to get entertained not lectured by the cast.

>>69196519
>This can't be real, right?
well seeing as Trump is endorsed by the KKK, he doesn't disavow their support, and he put a white nationalist into the position of White House Strategist, it seems like a fair response. The alt right is the movement of white supremacy, combatting Trump is in a way combatting white supremacy

>>69196673
>69196673
god bless Kanye West

>>69196747
Uh, I'm sure he like denounced the KKK like in 5 different occasions.

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>>69196703

>>69196724
Freedom of speech > Pence's fee fees

As a strong and independent alt-righter who don't need no waifu, you should be the first to support this.

>>69196764
oh right, but it took him a long-ass time and he was very reluctant to do so. White supremacists are a big part of his base, he succeeded because of them and he put one of them into one of the highest positions in our government

>>69196779
Yes, I support Trumps free speech to call them out on twitter. Free speech goes both ways.

>>69196724
He's also the next no.2 to the president, and citizens have the right to voice their concerns about the leader of their country here, regardless of where or how.

>>69196788
>call them out on twitte
call them out for being polite and demanding an apology? A president should be fucking professional, not a whiny bitch. I'm afraid when he gets power, he will want to censor the media and free speech

>>69196481
STOMP OUT NAZI SCUM!!! Glad to see Green Day SPEAKING OUT!!

Also, Billy Joel said HE'S BISEXUAL XDD Isn't that like SOO BRAVE???

Can't wait to get their next CD!!

>>69196724
>literally implied that Pence will not protect minorities
so they politely told the truth

>>69196808
They have the right, it's not like Pence told the secret service agent to take him out then and there. And Trump has the right to call for his supporters to boycott and request an apology.

>>69196481

>every musician
only ancient irrelevant white acts who want to brand themselves as "punk" or "indie"

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I made a wall-of-shame of trump's twitter account.

It's not all of the terrible things he twitted of course, just some of them

>>69196764
Trumps dad was literally in the KKK

>>69196788
The next president of the US calling out a broadway cast on twitter might be free speech but I'll be damned if it's an appropriate or measured response by a president. He's not a celebrity billionaire now, he's a politician whose job depends on him not going on a twitter rant every morning.

>>69196747

>a white nationalist into the position of White House Strategist
you can't b serious. Breitbart is as pro-Jews and pro-Israel as you can get in US media.

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>>69196857
>This are
nice grammar nerd

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>all those threads saying "can't wait for some anti-trump music!"

well there you go, and it's from greenday LMA FUCKING O

>>69196857
Trump was a business man and entertainer, those tweets were sarcastically part of his persona before he ran.

>>69196481
>Being surprised that green day of all fucking bands is anti-trump

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>>69196589

>Tila Tequila
>Tequila
>fucking mexican alcohol

I don't get her deal.

For one thing they've seen art that's reactionary to politics and, especially in Green Day's case, were probably really eager to become relevant again by spearheading some sort of artsy revolution bullshit
but for another thing it's because Trump is a fucking retard monster that has completely manipulated you guys into voting for him

>>69196849
see
>>69196817

>>69196888
>sarcastically
Trump supporters so delusional that they think the stupid shit he constantly says is sarcasm

>>69196898
MUH DICK

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>>69196673

based black skinhead

>>69196888
they aren't though lots of those were tweeted during his campaign

>>69196405

>>69196857
your government and russia are like the only governments in the world to convey explicit happiness to trump's victory lmao

>>69196935
and the Philippines, whose president is a fucking fascist as well

>>69196925
I count 4. and they're not even that outlandish.

>>69196901
either that or the media has manipulated you into hating him :^)

>>69196481
I wish he would just let himself slide into obscurity. The man's 44 years old and he's chanting something that a 3rd grader could come up with.

>>69196898
She's going to be the first casualty of war when the civil war breaks out

>>69196788
We're not blaming him for speaking out on it, but for speaking out on it inappropriately. He can do it as much as he wants, but it's indicative of a bad politician

>>69196952
>they're not even that outlandish.
lol /pol/

>>69196861
>literally in the KKK
Hi Washington Post

>>69196747
>The alt right is the movement of white supremacy
I wouldn't call myself alt-right, but there's a big difference between "white supremacy" and "western supremacy", which is what I think the alt-right is for.

>>69196481
Because they're intelligent.

>>69196955
>hillary supporters wanting to have a war with trump supporters
lmfao
it would be over within 24 hours

>>69196843
>LITERALLY

>>69196724
Mike Pence supports torturing the LGBTQ community until they "aren't gay" which is probably what they were referring to specifically, since theater and homosexuality are often connected

>>69196898

>A NON WHITE CONSERVATIVE
>HOW COULD THIS BE?!

>>69196973
When he was first asked about how the KKK supports trump in this campaign, trump said "White supremacists? i don't know about white supremacists"

>>69196983
t. pseudo intellectual numale

>>69196986
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9B7EsenfFE

>>69196995
Mike Pence wants to cure a disease, oh woe is me.

>>69196700
Pretentious as fuck, but he has a point.
Also worth nothing that he is a mathematician and lives in Sillicon Valley.

>>69196977
>"western supremacy", which is what I think the alt-right is for.
if they wanted western supremacy they wouldn't want to dismantle the systems that got America to be the superpower it is in the first place. The alt-right is a racist movement

>>69196953
Well I'm aware and worried that that is probably the case, but there is SO much evidence that Trump is a horrible person and going to be a terrible politician. What makes you think he's going to be a good president in any way except that he makes fun of the people you want him to make fun of

>>69196995
lol i'm sure that's why he got the job. no doubt :)

ITT:

Leftist plebs not realizing the best music throughout history is rooted in:
>rebellion against the established system
>an appeal to God or spirituality
>a sense of national pride

All of those things are devoid among modern liberalism and is why all you follow is post-modernism which rejects tradition by definition. Explains why modern music is just rehash for the most part these days.

The next musical movement will be right wing and Pitchfork will still try to justify GLOSS as a "punk" record.

>>69196946
>a jew state and 2 dictatorships are the only countries in the world to greet the victory of a modern fascist
really makes you think

>>69196973
I don't really get the joke you're doing but can you deny at all that his father was in the KKK?

>>69197008
kill yourself
you are a disease
Trump and Pence should support science, not the psychological torture of innocent people

>>69196862

i think its pretty obvious hes joking and making fun of perpetually offended leftists but i agree that its a petty thing for a president to do. hopefully he quits doing stuff like that when hes actually in office

>>69196655
Seconded. Kanye realizes that Middle America (aka the backbone of America) decided this election. They're tired of being lied to, tired of being called racist, sexist bigots. All these bleeding-heart liberals are so blind. They never once thought that all this anti-white, anti-western rhetoric would ever come to bite them in the ass. And now that it has, it feels soooooo good.

>>69197025
have you actually heard him talk since he got elected? or just read huffington post articles. he wasnt my first choice but between him and clinton america made the right choice

>>69197027
it doesn't matter if that's why he got the job, a person in a position of power in America shouldn't believe in that

>>69197049
Anything that inhibits someone's reproductive capabilities is literally a disease. Sorry to burst your bubble libtard. The gays need medicine not acceptance.

>>69196767
god bless

>>69197008
even without arguing that homosexuality isn't a disease, you condone torturing children and teenagers to "cure a disease" what is this the fucking dark ages? Do you actually believe that it will work or do you just like the idea of hurting a minority that makes up the political spectrum you're annoyed with

>>69196481
Because the celebrities that endorse Hillary don't have to deal with the negative consequences of Globalism. They live in multi-million dollar mansions in homogeneous gated communities in Beverly Hills so they're not worried about their communities becoming unsafe. They don't have to worry about illegal immigrants taking their jobs as entertainers. Globalism will just make them more money since they can sell more music in China.

>>69197047
Because he wasn't?

>>69196700
I like Scaruffi, but I feel he fails to realize how important Middle America is to America's status as a superpower.

>>69196898
Wow it's like people who actually are legal or took the time to become legal are sick of illegals getting free shit

>>69196719
eww no thanks. He's yours.

Take him out back and shoot him like Ol' Yeller.

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Why did normies want WW3 so badly?

>>69197124
because thats what cnn and facebook told them they wanted

>>69197061
Yeah I've heard him talk since he's been elected, and no I don't read the Huffington Post. Why would someone who doesn't even pay bills to the US government give a shit about it except to make it more white-European and to give himself and his class more money
And I hate Hillary as well. I don't actually care if someone votes for Trump, I care about the people that wear "Make America Great Again" hats and parade him as this great politician because he has fucked up so many times during his campaign, and basically just appeals because he makes fun of people that the voters don't like

>>69197100
but there is EVIDENCE that he was in the KKK. I mean is there any evidence that that evidence is false or are you just going to ignore it

>>69197104
exactly, holy shit how do people not realize this?

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>>69197124
1. The whole ww3 narrative was extremely unlikely to begin with. both putin and hillary said they are in favor of diplomacy with each other.

A no-fly zone in syria DOES NOT mean world war 3

2. The reason people are against trump is because he is incredibly stupid and incompetent, and he also happens to be a complete psychopath.


Trump praising kim jong un: "He is the boss, it's incredible. he wiped out the uncle, he wiped out this one, that one, this guy doesn't play games!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFp4EHbXrNA

Trump's reaction to 9/11: Bragging that now he has the tallest building in down manhattan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKlPhFIE7w

Trump said he supports waterboarding. he said he "likes it alot". in case you are not aware of it, waterboarding is a form of torture in which water is poured over a cloth covering the face and breathing passages of an immobilized captive, causing the individual to experience the sensation of drowning. Waterboarding can cause extreme pain, dry drowning, damage to lungs, and brain damage from oxygen deprivation.
It's illegal by international law, and interviewer asked him about why he supports a form of torture that is internationally illegal and trump's response was "i dont care".
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/28/donald-trump-ohio-rally-isis-torture-tpp-rape

Trump also advocated for killing the families of his enemies, including children and babies.

>>69197148
america was never solely white so that point is retarded. whats wrong with putting ALL citizens before illegal immigrants?

and i'd like an example of him making fun of "someone they dont like" besides the funny cripple one we've all seen

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>>69197168
Show me documented proof that shows he was a member of the KKK

>>69197184
>trip
>anime
didnt read a single line

>>69197168
You literally sound like a crackpot tinfoil conspiracy theorist right now. Get help.

>>69197194
god bless sam hyde, a true leader of the people

You can tell how underage this board is when threads are made about fucking greenday's political stance. all these sell out punk bands should be ecstatic because they're only ever relevant when a conservative is president

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>>69197184
>A no-fly zone in syria DOES NOT mean world war 3
Jesus Christ do you know anything about the situation in Syria kid?
>The reason people are against trump is because he is incredibly stupid and incompetent, and he also happens to be a complete psychopath.
That's not an argument

>>69197184
I stop reading at the tripcode.

>>69197207
Don't worry, the fact you care more about my username and the image i used instead of the actual content of my post shows you are maybe too superficial to understand how serious are the issues i was discussing

>>69197194
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump#1927_Klan_riot_arrest
It's absolutely possible that this is just a huge misunderstanding, but considering the amount of racist or borderline racist things Trump, and even his dad have done, it's not at all far off to consider it

>>69197221
1. I live pretty close to Syria.
I'm aware of the situation there.

2. Claiming that you should not vote for trump because he is stupid and a psychopath is actually a VERY good argument. i even gave you examples showing how much of a psychopath he is

>>69197236
nah youre just an attention seeking faggot who probably isnt old enough to vote. you should kill yourself right now

You Trump kiddies are retards. Trump has no experience in government, he isn't a politician. He is ignorant of nearly everything and will have to be told what to do by his advisors.

Very serious worry for what his administration will be like is completely warranted, for both those who have left, and right political leanings.

We are in dire times and do not need a non-leader that baited frogvoters into electing him.

>>69196747
yeah, his platform is so white-supremacist that he said on multiple occasions "fuck blacks i'm going to do nothing to help them."

oh wait, he did the opposite and obama's actions said that clearly.

>>69197005
Good one friend!

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>>69197246
>It's absolutely possible that this is just a huge misunderstanding
>no further proof that he was in the KKK

>>69197254
too late for that elitist white male. guess you're gonna find out what happens when you don't shut up about how smart you are
might get a bullet up their ass :)

There's one thing people say that really fucking gets on my nerves:

>"B-but America is a nation of immigrants."

No, it's not. It's a nation of CITIZENS. By definition, an immigrant is someone who comes to live permanently in a foreign country. The important thing there is the fact that that country already exists, so you can't say that the pilgrims were immigrants, because they didn't move to a "country", they made the country themselves.

I don't get why people are so fucking eager to put immigrants before the people that were already here, fair and square.

>>69197254
no substance in this post just "you dont agree with me youre retarded!!!!! my feelings matter!!!!!!"

>>69197246
Seeing how the march was for "Native-born Protestant Americans" and that he was German and not protestant then maybe he wasn't part of it.

>>69197221
>Those glasses
Holy shit Sam is such a nu-male cuck

>>69197090
perfect post

>>69197279
Your logic is incredibly flawed.

The first people who had america are the native americans. then Europeans IMMIGRATED to america and took over their land. just letting you know

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>>69197249
>he is stupid and a psychopath is actually a VERY good argument. i even gave you examples showing how much of a psychopath he is
Calling someone stupid just because you're butthurt isn't an argument, and hey I guess he was stupid enough to become the most powerful man in the United States :^)
>also I live close to Syria so I must know everything happening there
kys

>>69197277
>thinking anti-intellectualism is a good thing.
Thankfully, you're replaceable and expendable, otherwise I would care.

>>69197191
No America wasn't ever solely white, so what? And I don't actually disagree with putting American citizens before immigrants, but Donald Trump isn't empathizing with but sacrificing care for them, he's proudly announcing that he doesn't give a fuck about immigrants. It might not be America's responsibility (though it is the US's responsibility for South America) but there is an issue behind the immigration that is forcing people to run to America or die, or worse

>>69197297
aaaaaand filtered. you're retarded

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>>69197298
Trump is not stupid because i'm butt-hurt, he is stupid because he is stupid.

He did not get elected because he is smart - please remember about half of the people in america have an IQ below average, which means half of the people in the US have a two-digit IQ

>>69197304
thanks for the educational tip elitist white male I'm sure you are doing great in life. studying at an ivy league school!
why are you on 4chan anyway?

>>69197310
You miss the whole point that is being made when poeple say "the US is a nation of immigrants".

The point of this argument, is that immigration is literally what helped form the US in the first place.

>>69197305
okay why don't you have immigrants stay at home if trump tries to get rid of them :)

>>69197249
Attacking a person's character, instead of their arguments, is ad hominem, a logical fallacy. And you cannot provide "proof" for these things because it is completely subjective. By the standards of debate, your argument does not hold up here.

>>69197271
Did you read the post? I'm considering that it's possible it isn't true, but there is lots of evidence towards it being true.
Besides the reports, Trumps dad had a huge controversy for, and he was basically confirmed as doing this, not allowing black residents into his apartment building. Besides that, Trump has repeatedly made racist or borderline racist comments and appeals to every racist in America

>>69197305
i didnt say anything about immigrants, just ILLEGAL immigrants. there's a huge difference. when the fuck did he say hes against legal immigration? he's fucking married to one. having a situation like sanctuary cities where illegals wants are put before american citizens' is just wrong. much more wrong than sending people back to the country they are citizens of

>>69197326
>You miss the whole point
Don't even bother explaining the point to them.

>>69196481
I'm still loling at the fact that americans actually vote for Trump. A whole fucking country fell for the meme.

Trump can't keep a company out of bankrutpcy, let alone manage a country. I'd be worried if I were american.

>>69197184
>Waterboarding can cause extreme pain, dry drowning, damage to lungs, and brain damage from oxygen deprivation.

Wow it's fucking nothing

>>69197344
Are you the left version of Alex Jones?

>>69197208
why though? You have to look at the left side's evidence here, it seems like you're completely ignoring so many points here

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>>69196898
Lol, this fucking gook

>>69197337
>Attacking a person's character, instead of their arguments, is ad hominem, a logical fallacy.
It's not simply an attack on his character, it's an attack on his lack of credentials as well. inb4 some 4chan NEET tells me that credentials don't mean anything.

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>>69197337
This is NOT Ad Hominem: "We need a responsible person to be in charge, because responsibility is an important quality of leadership".

This IS ad hominem: "You are using a tripcode, therefore all of your arguments are invalid".

Do you see the difference?
It's not a logical fallacy since who trump is as a person essentially determines who he will be as president.

>>69197349
yes pls don't bother mr.elitist white male you are too smart for us HAHA

>>69197344
Blacks commit more crime than whites by a HUGE margin. I'd be pretty selective about letting them in my apartment complex, as well.

Statistics aren't racist, people.

>>69197356
>Trump can't keep a company out of bankrutpcy, let alone manage a country.
Literally this.

Fuck your meme candidate.

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>>69196481
green day wishes they were 1/10th of mdc

how embarrassing

>>69197357
>Wow it's fucking nothing
Then I guess you would have no problem going through it yourself?

>>69197313
Israel endorses Trump precisely because he's a retard with an anti-arabic mindset that they can easily manipulate, much like Bush back in the days.

Why are you against him Crazyaga?

>>69197373
>mr.elitist white male
Assumptions much?

>>69197372
could you stop being a problematic tripcode before i filter you
we get it you're so much smarter than us

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>>69197372
>crazyaga

>>69197413
Damn...

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lol just look at her

How does it feel to know that NO amount of complaining you do will get your precious Hillary into office? PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP for 8 years, and you look more and more like screaming children every day that passes as you continue desperately flinging your empty buzzwords in hope that they'll actually have an impact

>>69197297
Yeah, if the spicks had an uprising and overtook the country then it'd be theirs.
The Indians didn't kneel over and give us the land, we took it through conquest, like people have taken shit since the dawn of time.

>>69197395
>retard with an anti-arabic mindset
He's a reasonable man then.

t. German who doesn't like the fact his country is being invaded by shitkins

>>69197413
Jaden?

Gee /pol/ and /mu/ would be great at winter ball

Just sayin

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>>69197427

>>69197297
I did not take into account the Native Americans, mostly because I feel it is somewhat irrelevant to my point. There are not many intelligent people who believe that the actions against the Native Americans were justified. But what's done is done.

My point is that we can't undo the damage done to the Native American population. Call me a cynic, but I believe it was inevitable in order to fully establish the US. What we can do is provide for the people that are here now (legally, of course).

Apologies if my point comes across unclear.

>>69197326
I can agree with that. However, America had always put the needs of its citizens above those of immigrants who were not yet citizens.

>>69197313
Trump has a genius-level IQ. Do you realize how much free and constant press attention he got during his campaign by playing the entire corrupt media giant like a fiddle?

>>69197454
yeah but hes not doing it for votes lol

>>69197454
There's a difference between a teenagers instagram post and national fucking television

I don't root for Turmp, but you have to be a complete retard to thnik that Hillary is innocent. She is worse than Trump, in fucking everything.

>>69197385
>Plot to commit terrorist acts
>Cry when you get got for it

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>>69197468
1. You are again vastly overestimating trump's intelligence.

2. The media actually provided footage proving that trump did what they said he did, and trump simply denied it. The sad thing is, trump supporters are stupid enough to believe trump instead of media sources which actually bothered to provide footage which proves their point

>>69197395
Good. Arabic cultures, and Islam specifically, are violent and oppressive. People talk about accepting all the Muslims when most Muslims:

1. Believe that the violent actions of extremists are justified.

2. Believe that non-believers are inferior, and should be persecuted.

3. Oppresses women more than any other culture.

4. Hates LGBT people.

Open your fucking eyes, people. We don't live in a fucking fairytale.

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>>69197468
And btw, trump got so much attention in the press BECAUSE he was retarded. not because he was smart.

He was so outstandingly stupid that the press could not ignore it

>>69197459
what happened to the Native Americans is the same thing Syrians will do throughout Europe and the U.S. if not stopped. Call me a cynic, but I believe it is inevitable in order to fully establish Sharia Law.

Trump is one of the few powerful people willing to stand up against it, it's most likely a losing battle but at least he's willing to try to fight it. Nearly all of Europe simply bent over and is taking it.

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>>69197510
>>69197529
DONT REPLY TO CRAZYAGA ITS USELESS

>>69197523
and those aren't even radical views lol, those are just standard normal muslim views

>>69196700
America is shit without its agriculture

>>69197510
>>69197529
you just don't get it. You keep talking about how STUPID he is. do you not realize thats why Hillary LOST
check your fucking ego

>>69197540
inb4 mods delete this post

>>69196871
pro israel doesn't mean pro jews you fucking moron

>>69197509
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8472804/WikiLeaks-children-among-the-innocent-captured-and-sent-to-Guantanamo.html
But I guess anyone who is a scary brown muslim is guilty, huh?

>>69197004
What's wrong with that?

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>>69197510
I didn't think so at first but after watching the election unfold I firmly believe that he's known exactly what he's been doing the whole time.
>"Hillary eats a shit sandwich every day"
>CNN fact check: "Wrong, Hillary only eats a shit sandwich 5 times a week, Drumpof btfo"
He knows how to get people talking by making outrageous half-truths or hyperboles. Anyone but the heaviest of Kool-aid drinkers realized by the end of the cycle that the entire MSM was straight-up lying or pathetically obvious in its attempt to skew information and polls (which I name as the #1 reason Hillary failed) , and Trump's claims, as retarded as they sometimes were, provided an alternative for people who were sick of being told by MSM that they were ebil white males

>>69197427
ha ha wow shes so hip. hillary is such a badazz XD

>>69197540
i can't believe someone cared enough to slap this shit together

>>69197540
>Stalking me online to find things i did when i was just a young teen

wew.

I still love beautiful things btw

>>69197540
Top kek

>>69197184
>A no-fly zone in syria DOES NOT mean world war 3

https://youtu.be/xywb7KqPJoM

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>>69197607
>Stalking me online to find things i did when i was just a young teen
It's the first image that comes up when you look up crazyaga

>>69197556
Hillary did not lose because of that at all.
She lost because:

1. she was not a true progressive - she was too apologetic for the big banks. she also has a very non-progressive voting record

2. she had a pretty meh campaign overall. "I'm with her" is not a good slogan.

3. people were spreading a ton of fake conspiracies against her online

4. because of the electoral college system.

Hillary lost because of Hillary. Trump was not a good candidate, he was a shitty and terrible candidate with terrible and shitty approval ratings.

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REMEMBER TO FILTER ALL TRIPS

STOP GIVING THEM ATTENTION

>>69196481
Because most musicians are intelligent.

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>>69197674

>>69196784
slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/

>>69197674
first post you've made I agreed with

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>>69197674

this is just a pol thread. delete this cancer

>>69197674
>fake conspiracies
Such as? Don't tell me Wikileaks is le Russian hacker boogeyman
>the electoral college system
The system that leftists have never criticized (and the MSM even defended in 2012 when Obama won) until now when it costs them their sacred cow?

Hillary lost because of hubris. She expected to win. It was "her turn". She thought that she could run the most robotic campaign ever, regurgitating bullet points from hillaryclinton.com instead of actually saying anything, against a candidate with an unprecedentedly high-energy and novel approach to politics, all while doubling down on media collusion to call anyone who deosn't vote for you racist and sexist, which is a big part of why so many young white people voted for trump.

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>>69197715
pol is your friend :^)

>>69197540
>Gray is the color of my mind
>Gray is the color of my wine
>See behind the scene
>A young boy goes wild

>Gray is the color of my eyes
>Gray is the color of my spine
>A spirit of an old parched tree
>Dream to touch the well

>Gray is the color of my mind
>Gray is the color of my tears
>I try to see the invisible side of the rainbow

When did you realize that Crazyaga is the best writer of the 21st century?

there is no real risk involved in speaking out again trump and in fact it can only help your career by giving your band more headlines on pitchfork/rollingstone websites.

>>69197540
This turned me into a Trump supporter.

>>69197715
Politics on /mu/ is endlessly entertaining, though.

>>69197715
>Get btfo
>Cry for janny to make the mean people go away
>>69197751
COP KILLERRRRRR

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>>69196481
what is it with liberals and throwing around the word fascist
is anything they don't like fascism?

>>69197639
>What is propaganda
Listen. the truth is, that the no fly zone was a bad policy idea, but it's still very unlikely it would drag the US into a war with russia.

Russia is not interested in that kind of war, and putin said he is interested in diplomacy with whoever will get elected for US president

>>69197747
>The system that leftists have never criticized
For fuck's sake, liberals are centrists at best, not leftists

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>>69197565

>he supports the Jewish state
>b-but he's antisemitic

>he supports the local soup kitchen
>b-but he hates hobos

>>69197745
Didn't have much time for /mu/ until recently.

>>69196747
>well seeing as Trump is endorsed by the KKK, he doesn't disavow their support
That's not how it works, dumbfuck.

If the Nazis ate corn flakes and you eat corn flakes, does that make you a Nazi by association?

>>69197747
Example for fake conspiracies against hillary that has no connection with reality:

>Le hillary killed wikileaks lawyers XD
>Le hillary killed vince foster XD XD XD
>Le hillary is secretly a satanist! XD XD
>Le hillary has a secret child-sex enslavement pedo ring XD XD

The list could go on. the amount of silly and fake conspiracies i've seen against Hillary on this election is ridiculous.

>>69197805
false equivalency. you and i both know that there is a separate benefit to occupying palestine. you can be a paranoid conspiracy theorist and still want to bomb brown children. it's not just hillary who is hawkish and mindlessly loyal to fucking israel, one of the most backwards countries in the world

>>69197754
You are looking at the lyrics out of context. watch this:

Kid A, Kid A, Kid A, Kid A
Everything, everything, everything, everything..
In its right place
In its right place
In its right place
Right place

Yesterday I woke up sucking a lemon
Yesterday I woke up sucking a lemon
Yesterday I woke up sucking a lemon
Yesterday I woke up sucking a lemon

Everything, everything, everything..
In its right place
In its right place
Right place

There are two colours in my head
There are two colours in my head
What is that you tried to say?
What was that you tried to say?
Tried to say.. tried to say..
Tried to say.. tried to say..

Everything in its right place

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>>69197830
>>69197783
>>69197875

>>69197882
It's a cute fox and i liked it, i don't get what is your problem with it

>>69197830
There's extensive evidence for the first two and some very suspicious stuff involving the last two (not her as much as her campaign high-ups) in Wikileaks

>>69197914
There are literally zero real evidence for any of them.

And trust me, i researched it throughout. the only "evidence" are fake evidence

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>>69197914
>extensive evidence for the first two
Go on...

>>69196747
This post cannot be real either

>>69196747
Bannon isn't a white nationalist.

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>>69197830
She's a loser, that's why she lost.

>>69198000
I made a list of major reasons she lost here >>69197674

>>69197874

>one of the most backward countries in the world
oh yes, antisemitism is fine when liberals do it

Just admit that all the crying about Bannon is because he's fucking smart and beat you with less money and media support. He's a threat to you wining in 2020 so you use the race card to get rid of him. You want to split Trump from people who won him the election.

>>69198017
It's not that he hate jews, it's that he is prejudicing people.

This is how he talked to a room of people from the jewish community:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4_Y3YIN43c

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>>69198069
>Not posting the better version

>>69198064

The ADL backtracked on calling him a white nationalist when Bannon threatened to sue, because it was all libel.

Face it, you just want to get rid of people who helped Trump win. Sad, really.

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>>69198092
Trump won't listen to the media anyway, no matter how much they bitch and moan it wont influence his picks.

>>69197510
>people aren't allowed to change their minds about things over the years

>>69198092
I'm not the anti-defamation league, i'm an israeli atheist born to a jewish family.

It's not a secret that people in /pol/ are calling people with an israeli flag like me "merchants".

Trump basically did that by saying that the room with the largest amount of negotiators he ever spoken to was a room of an american jewish community.

Are you really this blind?

>>69198130
Just when he won because of the electoral college, he suddenly felt the need to tweet about how his opinion about the electoral college changed 180 degrees :^)

Anon, let's be real here.
Are you actually stupid, or are you pretending to be stupid?

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>>69198134
Have you gotten your ass fucked yet?

>>69198134
Do you support open borders for Israel, and the tearing down of the wall across its borders?

>>69198162
The tensions between muslims and israelis are too rough for open borders.

Open borders work only when both places who share a border love each other, like the european union or how like the borders between different states in the US are open borders.... there isn't a wall between New York and PA for example, that's an open border

>>69197780
They've overused everything else, people barely even care if they're called racist or sexist any more.

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>>69198201
>>69198157
Im waiting

>>69198242
No, but i had oral sex once.

There, are you happy now that you know more details about my private sex life

>>69198201
Oh so Israel can have a wall, but America can't, makes sense. Hey guess what, America has enemies too and the unprotected southern border is a massive security issue, not just from Mexican cartels but from terrorists that take the southern root to America. The wall needs to be built.

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>>69198267
M A D M A N

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anyone want some jeb memes?

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>>69198276
Look at my posts throughout this thread. did you see a single post where i even mentioned trump's wall?

I think the plan to build a wall is silly because immigration from mexico has actually stagnated in recent years, and you would also need to deal with a shit ton of private land-owners in the area, but it was never a main reason to not support trump for me.

Want some real reasons why this guy is dangerous?

Trump praising kim jong un: "He is the boss, it's incredible. he wiped out the uncle, he wiped out this one, that one, this guy doesn't play games!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFp4EHbXrNA

Trump's reaction to 9/11: Bragging that now he has the tallest building in down manhattan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKlPhFIE7w

Trump said he supports waterboarding. he said he "likes it alot". in case you are not aware of it, waterboarding is a form of torture in which water is poured over a cloth covering the face and breathing passages of an immobilized captive, causing the individual to experience the sensation of drowning. Waterboarding can cause extreme pain, dry drowning, damage to lungs, and brain damage from oxygen deprivation.
It's illegal by international law, and interviewer asked him about why he supports a form of torture that is internationally illegal and trump's response was "i dont care".
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/28/donald-trump-ohio-rally-isis-torture-tpp-rape

Trump also advocated for killing the families of his enemies, including children and babies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWiaYQUV2oM

Bonus: Trump lying 250 times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmne8r2sIFA


Bonus 2:
Trump mocks a disabled reporter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX9reO3QnUA

>>69198362
Do you have any boipussy pics on /b/? Honest question

>>69198382
No

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>>69198362
wrong

>>69197104
Would be valid but she's full /pol/yard now.

>>69197074
>Anything that inhibits someone's reproductive capabilities is literally a disease.
So what's his plan to cure your personality?

>>69198420
Cute.

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>>69198391
post pics wearing knee-high socks faggot

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>>69196747
Lovin every laugh

>>69198420
get back to the /lgbt/ containment board before you spread your fag disease here.

>>69196747
Meanwhile Clinton called a Grand Dragon her "mentor", received 20k from another Grand Dragon and actually has the official support of the KKK.

>>69198391
you should get some. weak beta faggots like you will be turned into puppets for the pleasure of real men under the trump administration

>>69197336
If I understand you correctly, I'm saying that the immigrants that illegally come to the US do so because their countries are fucking horrible, it's often a life or death situation, and sometimes their lives are arguably worse

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>>69198672
Yeah I'm sure the estimated 20 million illegals in America came cause of life and death reasons, Not economic reasons and benefits.

>>69198672
lol who told you this shit? yeah they might not like their country but a lot of illegals come here with drugs, and the fact they cross the border multiple times and never get caught is a problem. i've got nothing against someone coming here to try and make a better like but theres a way to do it legally

>>69197358
Are you saying this because I said there was evidence and then said that it might not be true? That was my fault.
There isn't concrete evidence that Fred Trump was in the KKK, but there are a number of different points that definitely seem to say so. I'm entertaining the possibility that it isn't true, but I haven't found any evidence to support that Fred wasn't in the KKK, and combined with other factors considering Fred, Donald, and the whole Trump family's relationship with minorities, it seems even more correct.
And come on now. The right, the alt-right, are the people that believe that America is run by a secret organizations of Jews and that Hillary became president by cooking with cum. But the implication that a man convicted of being racist was at a KKK rally and was a member of the KKK is too extreme

>>69198754
guess what faggot trumps your president XD

>>69196481
because nu right is anti academic, and most liberals see that as anti intellectual

and in most cases i would agree

>>69197378
So if Fred Trump is afraid of black people coming into his establishment and committing crime, it makes sense then that he would be a part of a movement trying to rid them from America wouldn't it?
Even if you agree that it makes sense for him not to allow black people into his buildings because he's afraid of crime, the KKK are an organization that try and solve it by murder and extremism, not exactly a solution

>>69198351
gave me quite the giggle

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>>69198588
Honestly you sound extremely primitive.

>>69198672
you could maaaaaybe make that case for refugees in europe, even though the vast majority are economic migrants. but illegal aliens in the united states are 100% economic migrants. yeah life may suck down in the jungle but not life threatening suck.

>>69198838
when it comes to sex yeah, most real men are. you would know if you werent a virgin

>>69196995
[Citation needed]

>>69198824
I don't condone the actions of the KKK. I am not saying that Fred Trump was or wasn't in the KKK, either one is a possibility. I was simply stating the opinion I have about him not letting blacks live in his apartment complex.

>>69197824
he's not saying trump is part of the kkk you ultra dumbfuck

>>69198882
>Taking pride in being primitive

Why the fuck do you care if someone else likes sexual activities that you don't? let everyone do whatever they like

>>69198729
Of course some of them are coming to America for the economic part of it, but Syria is in a civil war right now and Mexico is in a drug war right now. In both situations there have been reports of people walking up and taking 9-10 year old girls for slaves, and if you refuse your family is killed. I don't believe that coming from a shitty country like this automatically makes you a good person, but as someone who comes from a town made up of middle-eastern immigrants, I can personally tell you that they wouldn't leave their country and their family and their culture to come to America and work outside from 4 to 12

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>>69198828
jeb is an infinite well for giggles

>>69198941
>taking pride in being a weak small boy who could get thrown around the room by a woman
so you're saying you "like" spending lonely nights in your room spanking your micropenis to chinese cartoons? lmao whatever suits you man. just post your butt in panties

>>69198751
Obviously legal immigration is a better solution than illegal immigration, and the drug issue you bring up is a HUGE problem, because the drugs that Americans are buying are causing more immigrants to come to America illegally. But I assume that Mexicans come to america illegally to avoid paying taxes, is that right? I'm still trying to understand the whole situation

>>69198984
oh really, I'm Lebanese and my Syrian driver is moving to Australia as an asylum seeker. He is in complete safety, has a stable job, and is away from any fighting.

>>69198923
Oh, ok. I was saying that in response to Fred being in the KKK. If Fred believes that, whatever, but it's more evidence to him being in the KKK, which the other posters were disputing

>>69198927
Same analogy applies, you drooling retard. It doesn't make him a white nationalist.

>>69199016
This post says more about you then it says about me.

Why are you so obsessed with insulting people over not being "masculine" enough? why do think the side of my penis is even relevant?

Let me tell you a little secret. being homosexual does not make someone a "weak" person. it literally just means he has a sexual preference for people of the same sex.

>>69196512
they debuted their new album at number 1, they're still relevant

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>>69196857

prove any of that wrong

protip: you can't

>>69198984
Exactly why I'm for building the wall and helping them over there.
The wall will stop the drug cartels from mueling their product to America and severely decrease their revenue.
Trump will destroy ISIS with join military operations with Putin, while the democrats created ISIS by over throwing Gaddafi and trying to the same to Assad.

why is this thread still up? fucking mods

>>69199045
And I don't agree with that. But I can tell you that that is not the case for every immigrant, and at this point it comes down to a choice of a) do you try and stop immigrants coming in and freeloading and refuse the immigrants that need it the right to life or b) allow for the inevitability of some taking advantage of the system, and save millions

>>69198923
>not letting blacks live in his apartment complex

Debunked

>>69199073
because american men used to be something to be proud of. i didnt even know you were gay desu i just see all these weak skinny nerds that think they're better than everyone with the media shitting in their mouths and them spitting it back at other people. american men are being feminized and i really cant make sense of why.

plus bullying has always been essential for character development so suck my dick faggot

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>>69199088
It's actually extremely easy to prove him wrong.

Vaccines don't cause autism:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism.html

Global warming is caused by carbon emissions, it's not a Chinese hoax:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VUPIX7yEOM

3. Trump is not respectful for women like he claims to be, just see pic related

4. Trump said the protesters are paid with literally ZERO evidence to back this claim, and then he said the media paid for this protests with ZERO evidence to back this claim again. the burden of proof is on the one who is making the claim, otherwise i can say there are unicorns on the moon without proving it

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>>69197254
>Trump has no experience in government, he isn't a politician.

exactly why he won

>>69199197
Tip: when you are hiring someone for a new job, having zero experience is a negative quality

>>69199107
OK, and I agree with that concept of the wall. But, and try to answer this unbiased, is taking out the US spending actually going to stop the drug war, or is there the possibility of just containing it more in South America

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All these libbabbys crying was fucking annoying, but now that trump has won and theres nothing they can do about it, its hilarious to watch

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>>69199260
If you were paying attention to empirical evidence, you would have been a liberal too

>>69197780
Because they don't understand fascism. They think anything non-progressive is fascist although by the definition of fascism
>political system where state has maximum control of social and economic freedom
They'd realize they are left-wing fascists which have existed all throughout history. PC culture is a perfect example of this.

Glad to see the other right-wing patricians showing up for discussion

>>69199129
And of course neither is a great choice. And I don't think Hillary would have been able to meet the middle ground either. But Trump revels in refusing these people entry into our country, and I don't agree with that (among a million other things).

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>>69196481
Because Trump

>Wants Russia to hack the US
>Suggested for his fans to assassinate Hillary
>Has lied over 60% of the time according to politifact
>Disrespected veterans
>Disrespected the disabled
>Dodged the draft for Vietnam with fake Dr notes
>Has been bankrupt 4 times
>Wants to bankrupt US which will ruin the American dollar and our economy
>Promotes violence at rallies
>Has owned apartment complexes that were sued for denying housing to blacks
>Thinks Obama literally founded ISIS
>Wants to suggest unconstitutional policies
>Wants to kill civilians in other countries ( war crime)
>Wants to bring back torture (war crime)
>Outsources his jobs for his businesses even tho he says he's against it
>Thinks climate change is hoax by the Chinese
>Stole millions from people through Trump University
>Used other people's money for his charity to fund his businesses

People aren't butthurt because he's republican or because of his hair or some shit, they're butthurt because he's a deplorable human being and is unfit to be president.

>>69199291
i hope you continue to make posts like thhis for the next 4 years because shit like this is honestly my favorite part. did you start crying while typing this?

>>69196747
>so many replies

>>69199230
>is taking out the US spending actually going to stop the drug war
Nope, but it will hinder it.
>or is there the possibility of just containing it more in South America
If Trump wants to end the Mexican drug war he pretty much needs to send the army over to Mexico and take out the cartel. Which I doubt would happen but Trump is pretty unpredictable.

>>69199383
>unpredictable
he hasn't done anything as president yet

>>69199291
>politifact

welp

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>>69199328
I'm sure you must be excited for that fence.

>ITT: Alt righters and unironic trump supporters have no arguments and get blown the fuck out
Sad!

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Just remember, no matter how much you argue on the internet with strangers, Donald Trump will still be president of the United States

>>69196747
are sjw still triggered by trump's victory? guys it's time to let go...

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Why are all the nigs turning out red pilled and all the whites staying cucked as fuck?

>>69197585
>>69197805
http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/14/media/breitbart-incendiary-headlines/

Cvckservatives getting blown out left and right.

>>69199614
>IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE'RE WRONG BECAUSE WE WON

Kek. You're beyond sad mate.

>>69199650
>Not realizing you can buy out of racism

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>>69199677
If we're so wrong, why did we win?

>>69199708
>lost popular vote by 1 million

Because the electoral college is stupid.

>>69199708
You didn't win. Hillary ran the worst campaign of all time and still got the popular vote.That's ohw bad Trump is.

they're on liberal labels and get their viewpoints from higher ups


I don't like trump and am not republican b4 I get those replies, epik

>>69199708

Because, just like he does in business, he conned everyone.

>>69199172
>cdc
>government website
>le black science man of reddit

obviously vaccines don't cause autism and global warming is a thing but try a little harder you fucking sperg

>>69199744
>and get their viewpoints from higher ups
lmao, no

>>69199728
>>69199734
>>69199746
this shit is gold thanks f am

>>69199708
Because you're uneducated, and because Trump appeals to emotions and bigoted ideals

>>69199734
>you didn't win
Didn't vote for Trump. But he did clearly win. I watched it on the news and everything.

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>>69199728
Waaa waaa this is my first election :'(
>>69199734
But anon I think we did
>>69199746
Like Hillary conned all of you?

>>69199777
>btfo
>"hahahaha i'm laffin tho"

Even in victory, the cuckservative looks like an uninformed fool who relies on the perceived anguish of his opponents to feel a semblance of pride. Wew.

>>69199421
he was unpredictable during his campaign.

>>69199790
and apparently he appeals record numbers of hispanics and blacks too

>>69199796
>phoneposter
>android
kys

>>69199806
you're still complaining lmao what good is it doing?

>>69199815
How else will I shitpost on the go?

>>69199771
well, go on.

>>69198863
So Syrians completely erase their entire life, risk their lives and their families lives to come to America so they can get money? And then do you think that when they become poor as dirt it was because they didn't know America was actually shitty?

>>69198420
brap brap

>>69199808
Yeah. 0% is pretty record-breaking.

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>>69199790
>anyone who disagrees with me is uneducated
God I love liberals

>>69199847
yes i do. when you have the option of
a. living in shitty sandy desert with no gibs
or
b. living in paradise where they give you free money and benefits and white women to rape
the choice is obvious. what do you have to lose?
they're not risking shit anyway, once they're out of the middle east (not specifically syria cause tons of fugees aren't even syrian) it's smooth sailing to france, germany, sweden, wherever they want to shit up.
they were already poor as dirt before they entered any developed nation (to contribute nothing), you can't really "become" what you already are.

>>69199808
Firstly, African Americans and Hispanics are part of the make up of America's population of idiots. I don't think that they're any smarter than middle-class white people, and in fact might have a lower IQ for various societal reasons,
Secondly, where the fuck are you getting your numbers? I'm reading an 88% black vote for Hillary Clinton. And I should say that I think the reason Hillary appeals to minorities more isn't because minorities understand how horrible trump is, but because she appeals to them.

O I am laffin at the conservative butthurt that any decent musician alive is anti Trump. You have to stick with country guys, all the Fox news stars.

>>69199911
Be realistic here, it's not a "liberal" thinking. I have an idea of what's right for America, and I haven't been convinced to turn because all the arguments I've come across have been stupid. This is 4Chan no one cares if you're racist, so be honest, did you vote for Trump because you really care about politics or did you vote for trump because he pisses of SJW's

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>>69200012
>(((fox))) news
>supporting trump

>>69199969
look at his numbers compared to other republicans, how stupid are you that you thought i meant he got a majority of them? the democrats give them too much free shit for that to ever happen

>>69196995
This was proven to be false

>>69199921
I'm American, so I can't say for other countries, but the Syrians where I live face racism every day, and not like subtle racism either, I mean like slurs screamed at them and refusal of jobs. And maybe they don't risk their life on their travel to America, but it takes a lot to throw away everything that you know culturally to move to some shit-hole where everyone makes fun of you. From your point of view, how would you feel moving from your comfy white land to Syria? Besides that, you can't deny that atrocious acts are happening in Syria. How can you blame them for wanting to get the fuck out of there?

>>69200146
cant blame them for wanting to get out of there but why america? its so far away and so different (not that they care about that) that they wont ever fit in. why cant they go to one of the rich arab countries who have taken literally 0 (Zero) refugees?

>>69200070
Free shit like what, welfare? Or basic human respect? But I can't speak for why "record" number of minorities voted for Trump, except maybe some of those people were tired of PC culture or whatever and voted for trump because he's a big asshole etc. etc.

>>69199138
Pardon me? I'm missing something here.

>>69200146
if it's a shithole where everyone makes fun of them, maybe they should go back to their desert and fix the problems at the source instead of running away from them.
i can't blame them for wanting to leave, but i can blame them for lowering the quality of life of the native inhabitants of whatever country they go.

>>69200206
easy answer - saudi arabia and the rich gulf arab nations don't take refugees because, despite being closer in culture race religion etc, they want to spread islam. that's the only reason they don't take them. why do you think they're financing all those new mosques in europe?

>>69200206
yes, welfare. much easier for them than whites to get a low skilled job. and wtf are you talking about human respect what the fuck do you think trump is gonna do call them all niggers and kill the gays? he's said multiple times "all americans"
this country isnt nearly as racist as liberals and the media say it is

>>69199911
Except, you know, it's kind of a fact.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/trump-overwhelmingly-leads-rivals-in-support-from-less-educated-americans/
http://www.mediaite.com/online/poll-trump-leads-clinton-among-non-college-educated-white-men-by-a-whopping-59-points/
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/trump-count-less-educated/2016/11/07/id/757492/

The people who voted for him literally don't know shit.

>>69200184
OK well when a Syrian is choosing a place to escape to, with America seeming like a country of oppurtunity to them, where they can make a lot of money, THEN they're moving somewhere because of economic reasons. They're not initially leaving Syria though because they want more money, that's what I'm saying.
And I don't agree with that. If there are available countries for them to move to besides America, it would probably be better if they just moved there. And in that case, I think closing borders (NOT building a wall) would be effective. But certainly there has to be a reason that they don't move to the other middle eastern countries. If it's because they wrongly think America will make them money, maybe we just need to educate them about how hard it is, and how moving somewhere closer can be more advantageous

>>69200302
More whites have been caught with welfare fraud than any other minority.

Stop talking out of your ass, it's obvious you don't know what you're saying.

>>69200096
"...and instead advocated for resources to be directed toward conversion therapy programs, "[for] those seeking to change their sexual behavior."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pence#LGBT_rights_policy

>>69200380
there are more white people in america what a fucking surprise

>>69200348
yeah whatever prosperity and opprtunity is nice but they dont come over one at a time. they come in thousands and thousands, and since the radicals hate the usa and have said they would use thw refugee system, is that really a risk worth taking from our point of view?

>>69200302
Where do you live? I live in middle-america and it is actually more racist than I expected. I thought the same as you, that the internet was making it out to be worse than it is, but you're clearly isolated to a white bubble of information that tells you that it isn't so bad
It's MAYBE easier for minorities to get low-skilled jobs, but who wants a low-skilled job? Shouldn't we be trying to increase the education in the poorer areas, where minorities live, to try and get more of them to go to college, to enter the medium to high skill work? Why don't you work, or want to work at fucking McDonalds, because you're bettering your country?
And you're clearly delusional about Trumps opinions on minorities. There is so much evidence about Trump being racist, and homophobic. As said before, his VP promotes the torture of homosexuals. The best case scenario for Trump is that he realizes he's bigoted and tries to stop it, but he's made 0 effort to do so.

>>69197104
>>69197170
Fucking this. First generation American here. My parents emigrated from a shit hole of a country. It took them years to get everything in order by the book and the one thing that they are proudest of in their lives is that they could become citizens of this country and give my brothers and I a life that they could only dream of. I'm fairly neutral politically, but the left in this country just aggravates me to no end with their pandering to illegal immigrants. It blows my mind when they rail on the state of worker's rights, but actively supports a system that turns our farms into modern slave labor - there's a reason why citizens of our country won't do that work at the price they will. The whole thing infuriates me.

>>69200478
i live in north carolina dude in the fucking south. i see black and white people getting along literally everyday
yeah more education would be great bt that wont happen instantly
the shit about mike pence torturing homos was proven false you just wont accept it because its a huge talking point for you
trump has already said gay marriage has been decided and trannies can use whatever bathroom so please tell me where hes been homophobic

>>69200278
Firstly, the only logical way for a Syrian to lower the quality of life "wherever they go" is to either mooch off of government, or by being violent, both of which can be prevented and turned advantageous through taxing the 1%, and using the funding DIFFERENTLY, than we have been. I do agree that the whole refugee crisis is being handled the wrong way: more people should be focusing on fixing Syria instead of accommodating those fleeing from it.
And what evidence do you have about the Syrians having this master plan to move to the west and spread Islam, besides your very deep understanding of Islam?