Is Pet Sounds actually regarded as a good album? I swear to god,

>hey guys, I'm a pleb!

>>68951811
> kid thinks his contrarian opinion will cause a shitstorm

nice try kid

"Pet Sounds is also one of the most overrated albums of all time. " - scaruffi

I guess you just weren't made for those times

>>68951912
Scaruffi is a hack

>>68951912
based

>>68951924
OP here.
I know, right? Thank god I'm born in the same time as Beyoncé and Taylor Swift :)

>>68951817
>thread

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>>68951811
up so early, mike?

I think it's a very good album, a bit overrated though because it's from 1966, so fans are like "DUDE BICYCLE BELLS LMAO", but it's well composed and the arrangements are more complex and interesting than on your average pop record.
Maybe listen to the High Llamas, they play the same kind of things there were on Pet Sounds and Smile, but with a more modern sound reminiscent of Stereolab. Cold and Bouncy and Gideon Gaye are pretty nice.
If you still don't like that, maybe Brian Wilson-style songs aren't simply for you.

>>68951817
>beach boy fag calling others plen
Oh, boy!

>>68951817
Only proper answer

>>68951811

I hate the "you have to learn music theory to get music" meme but this really is an album where a little itty bit of technical knowledge really helps you enjoy it. Take the chord progression in God Only Knows for example. How he goes from F#m to B, or E to C#m, is just insane, yet miraculously enough it doesn't sound jarring or avant-garde; it sounds perfectly natural. It's these kind of beautiful subtleties that make Pet Sounds an album I can return to again and again.

P.S.

Carl Wilson's voice >>>>>>>>>>> Brian's voice. Do most people agree with this?

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>>68953952
Overall I don't think that one has a better voice than the other.
I wouldn't have like Darlin' or I Can Hear Music as much if Brian had sang it, and I wouldn't have liked I Just Wasn't Made For These Times or You Still Believe In Me as much if Carl had sang it.
Carl has a great voice for the happier/more soulful songs, and Brian has a great voice for the melancholy songs.
If anyone else can explain why one is definitively better than the other, I'd be willing to listen.

>>68952138
>a bit overrated though because it's from 1966

are you literally implying that context and time period and originality shouldn't affect how a work is critically viewed? wow

>>68954277
Not at all, but that people are generally more impressed by the barking dog and train sample at the end of the Pet Sounds than the the overall production of The United States of America LP for example, which came out only two years later and had more innovative ideas at that time.

>>68953952
>How he goes from F#m to B, or E to C#m, is just insane

That's not complex or jarring at all
You're overreacting

>>68954942
god only knows is pretty complex. modulates a ton of times, weaves in and out of keys in unorthodox ways

>>68954861
nobody cares about the barking dog and train samples, i think you missed something. the innovation comes from the arrangements, instrumentation, and songwriting

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>>68954861
I honestly don't feel like Pet Sounds is remembered for its quirky, weird parts
It's just remembered for its great songwriting/harmonizing
I understand that argument when talking about the Beatles Revolver/Sgt Pepper, or maybe even Smile by the Beach Boys, but Pet Sounds, nah

>>68951817
fpbp

the album is absolutely brilliant, but Sloop John B is dreadful

>>68955247

Why do people say it's a bad song?

>>68951924
I almost made this exact same post.

>>68955277

That shit is just not good, the story of some depressing boat ride or some shit just doesnt sit well with me personally. Here Today and Thats not Me are the top tracks imo

I honestly prefer Surf's Up and Holland to this

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>>68951811

It's an amazing record. Better than anything the Beatles ever put out. It holds up as equally today as it did in the 60s.

>>68955105
>It's just remembered for its great songwriting/harmonizing
Okay, I guess I've got the wrong impression then because I think the same thing of Pet Sounds.
But I still feel like it's a bit overrated and hailed as something totally revolutionary sometimes because it's the Beach Boys, the American counterpart of the Beatles who is overrated the same way, and people ignore other very good innovative things from that same time frame like The Monks, Beefheart, the USA or the Incredible String Band.

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>>68955437
>the Beatles who is overrated the same way
I never understood why people say this. If the Beatles are overrated, what band is adequately rated?
>The Monks, Beefheart, the USA or the Incredible String Band
I know some people will disagree with me for saying this, but I feel like there's a reason why some bands are popular and other bands are more unknown. A large part of what makes a band good is it's appeal to a wide amount of people.
The reason why the Beach Boys and the Beatles are so highly rated is because they were able to add experimental aspects to their music in a way that didn't keep their audience of millions from being able to enjoy it.

>>68952064
>kokomo
my sides

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>>68956410
truly the beach boys' a day in the life

>>68953952
that chord progression is p boring imo

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>>68956897
whats a song that you think has interesting chord progression then

I like it.... I think.

>>68951811
maybe 3 good songs on it the rest are a fucking bore

>>68952064
>started balding in 66'
:(

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>>68957238
He started balding at 14

i think its boring. i just think its too tame to be likeable. it has no edge. of course the era has something to do with the sound, but I prefer 60s acts like The Sonics or Velvet UG

>>68952064
>Brian, No

every single time

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>>68952064
>>68956410
>>68958036
surprised no one has given praise to the essential "See You In Court" yet

>>68954079
not the anon you responded to, but for me it all comes down to versatility. Brian has a beautiful voice, arguably more beautiful than Carl's, however his falsetto is pretty much his one trick . Carl, on the other hand, has a very wide vocal range. From the larynx-shredding "Wild Honey" to the more soulful "God Only Knows", Carl shows that his vocal range is wider than Brian's.

>>68958614
who has better vocal range when it comes to notes?
i feel like brian does, but maybe i havent listened to enough of carl's singing

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>>68957330
is it even considered balding when its that early?
do some people just have inherently fucked up hairlines?

>>68951811
I dont like it either OP. I'm convinced its an elaborate troll by /mu/

>>68959249
Perhaps I should phrase my words better. While Brian might have greater overall vocal range (I'm not even sure if that's true, but for the sake of this lets assume it is), Carl has more vocal "versatility." It's hard to put in words, but listen to "Wild Honey" and then "God Only Knows" to see what I mean. if you want the full catalog of Carl's voice, google something along the lines of "songs sung by carl wilson"

>>68951811
If they had stolen more from charles manson they mightve mase a good album

so

this thread is basically people that like edgy music x autistic fucks who listen to children's music, right?

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>>68960695
yah

>>68951826
>nice try kid
>causes a shitstorm

lol, /mu/ never learns

>>68952317
>Plen
>Can´t even spell right
>Can´t appreciate the beach boys art
Wew lad

>>68953952
>F#m to B
>E to C#m
literally the same key

>>68960047
yes
call it a Hairline Fracture

Bum

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>>68963474
i never understood why mike is the only on picked on for his hair, didnt al have the same thing

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>>68965025
bum?

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>>68963474
and its gotten so much worse over the years...

>>68968699

someone tweet this to Van Dyke for his challenge

>>68963450
Welp I'm wrong.

>>68968904
eh, its probably not from this year

>>68969470
wait- which one was wrong?

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>>68968082
brian is thicc

>>68971645
Me, the doof who thought it was an unusual chord progression

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>>68974353
well im sure that some of their other songs actually do have unusual chord progressions anyways