Contemporary Post-Punk Edition >post-punk >goth rock

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Should put /dark/ in the subject field m8

>>68696068
I am retarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0ivFxSohVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cB3MqdSbdE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrtZFalgKTU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgSjbheIxkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7JqK0w4FBo

how long has /dark/ been a thing? this needs to continue

>>68697775
its been coming and going in cycles for the last few years. this cycle has been more productive than most, iirc the last one died cause it was nothing but yt link spam from one dude with no discussion

Post severely underrated industrial albums.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE-dLc4u7Lc
>Genesis P. Orridge & Skinny Puppy
>I've almost never seen it talked about

>>68697872
Im a new-fag how joined /mu/ a little over a year ago.

This is probably my favorite of all the generals on /mu/.

>>68697872
>the last one died cause it was nothing but yt link spam from one dude with no discussion
Most of the threads are like this. A few weeks ago a few threads hit bump limit though.

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>>68697902
All industrial except maybe SPK is underrated on /mu/

>>68698007
Really? I rarely see SPK get mentioned on /mu/. Foetus and NIN get the most discussion. I'd say Current 93 too but only their later folk stuff gets discussed.

>>68698007
Coil is talked about a lot too, but most people just focus on The Ape of Naples which is pretty overrated.

Troller - Graphic is some pretty sweet darkwave from this year. Great vocals and atmosphere.

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I found this one through 433rpm which is a great blogspot for this kinda stuff.

I'm also listening to un-kommuniti - black dwarf wreckordings 83-85. this band and that whole black dwarf crew is sadly ignored by /mu/
>>68697902
>>68698007
>All industrial except maybe SPK is underrated on /mu/
well there's also coil and maybe two TG albums

How does /dark/ feel about early Skinny Puppy?

I'm entranced by electro industrial that is basically just goth synthpop a la Twitch era Ministry.

>>68698072
I see leichenshrei often in chart threads.

>>68698166
I mean yeah that's an essential album but as for discussion it's seldom seen if at all

>>68698148
Early SP is so god-tier. Their first two Back & Forth comps are very much worth checking out.

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Just listened to pic related for the first few times and holy shit. I'm not familiar with Death in June in any way, but this is god tier. For some reason it reminds me of Within the Realm of a Dying Sun by Dead Can Dance, probably because of the echoey production, vast keyboard backgrounds and the dark jaded voice that reminds me of Brendan Perry's tracks. The lyrics are pretty compelling as well.
What's the next DiJ album to get into?

In other news what are you guys doing for halloween? Probably going to spend the night in the Paris Catacombs with a few metalhead friends.

>>68698471
Brown Book and The World That Summer, friendo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjR0LyEfSJc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuY8uqyb8PM

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>>68697902

Front 242 - Fuck Up Evil

>>68698576
Thanks I'll check that out tomorrow morning

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>>68697902

>>68698471
There's no Halloween here and I have no friends so I'll probably be shitposting on /mu/

>>68698471
>In other news what are you guys doing for halloween?
I'mma get trashed and watch some /dark/ movies with my roommates, anyone have any suggestions? I already have tetsuo and a few other similar japanese movies but if I show more than one of these my roommates will get pissed

>>68698959
The old universal monsters movies are very comfy

>>68698977
I have been meaning to check those out and this seems like the perfect time

>>68698959
Near Dark if you haven't seen already. Great soundtrack by Tangerine Dream as well.

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KMFDM's 80's output in general is underrated. Which is criminal because their early period was some unique shit that would get overshadowed by the club goth nonsense they'd be known for.

>>68697902
tfw Nardwuar brought up that album to GPO in their interview.

>>68698831
Where do you live where there is no Halloween?

>>68699128
Did he actually interview Genesis?
I need a link to this.

>>68699128
I dig all the kmfdm I've ever heard, but I've only heard Naive to present, which of their earlier work do you recommend highest?

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>>68695844

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>>68697902
Sleep Chamber - Some Godz Die Young

Salome
https://youtu.be/dYKSqXy8JYg

>>68699128
/dark/
>club goth nonsense
>goth nonsense
>nonsense
nonsense? I'll take club goth over "lady don't hurt me" any day.

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LEBANON HANOVER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1oSXlU0ZUk&list=PLGPdTGfz7eOJ8_I2B9rUjmWfEF9AVF_NN

>>68700417
their best song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDqK7V_sVLc

>>68699404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4suhp5QNpE

>>68699806
What Do You Know Deutschland followed by Naive.

>>68701149
i refer to goths who only care about danceable stuff.

How do you make a /dark/ band when everyone in your area wants to do metalcore or classic rock?

>>68702363
Fuck a band get a drum machine and whatever else and do everything yourself.

>>68702043
You're the first poster on /mu/ that actually cares about them lmao

>>68702438
they're pretty well liked in these threads

Just saw the Cure live, Damn Robert has still got it

>>68702438
i feel the same way. This is a song from william's solo project qual

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okr2Xds7qr8

>>68698471
I just to a song by them 'she said destroy', i felt it was off beat,unorganized and unoriginal

>>68698959
films everyone who posts in /dark/ should see:

The Innocents
Haunting
Onibaba
Kuroneko
The House of the Devil
Nosferatu (original and Herzog remake)
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari
Carnival of Souls
Vampyr


>>68698471
in response to your halloween question. I was gonna marathon a crap ton of horror movies, and scare my local neighborhood trick r treaters.

>>68703157
The most important /dark/ movie to see is The Hunger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALk3o7m5Jt8

i like this song

>>68703224
truuuuuuuuue, can't believe I forgot that one.

>>68703157
I've only seen The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari unfortunately. Do you think Vargtimmen would be a good addition to that list though?

>>68702818
that song and album is overrated desu. douglas pearce sings in a very monotonous tone but not as much as Michael Gira. their early stuff is joy division worship get to their mid-late 80's material.

>>68704067
listening now

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bump for Coil

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>>68702043
Holy shit that bar looks like the absolute worst time ever.

y'all collect tapes?

Is /dark/ music the true patrician choice?

by the way Iceage is death rock

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>>68707136
You have to be pretty commited

what's an album in a different bands discog that sounds like Children of God

>>68707182
cringe
>look at us we're so individualistic we invnted our own uniforms

>you will never be a goth living in the 80s
Why even live?

>>68707193
If you mean like a slow heavy industrial rock concept album then that's a tough one m8. MAYBE Through Silver and Blood by Neurosis although not really /dark/-related.

>>68707109
I don't collect tapes but I prefer collecting old industrial records. Tape collecting seems more like a devoted endeavor.

>>68707477
I do both, plus tapes tend to be cheaper. Having a nice collection of physical music is great either way

>>68707421
i'd much rather live in the future than the past. i want to be a goth living in 3000AD

>>68707438
Is anything else similar to pre white light era swans?

>>68707850
Yes, Godflesh especially
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czLxywJ6TM0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q58i9U8L6j0
some others
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euO5tD7X8vQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghEC79P18g8
Children of God is a god-tier industrial rock album but I don't know any very similar albums. That album was influential on NIN and it shows in some of their songs but I don't know how you feel about them.

>>68708044
Oh shit slab! is really doing something for me

>>68708082
Yeah that album is really Swansy and unfortunately also their only good one. Very worth checking out.

>>68708206
The vocals are very Gira-esque. Thanks anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F062h9ePl4Q

>>68708287
goddamn I always forget how nice of a voice she has

>>68707829
>>68707421
>you will never build a Gothic cathedral in the 1200s
I was born in the wrong generation

>>68699020
Some aged better than others. For instance Frankenstein and the bride of Frankenstein are still great.

>>68699129
Netherlands, there are probably some parties but it has never been a thing here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4UN1LSwhYo

WELCOME TO GERMANY HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR STAY
ENDLESS DAYS OF FOREVER GREY

Just finished listening to Only Theatre of Pain for the first time, and wow!
Where to next? Should I continue on to their next album?

>>68703985
Yeah I suppose. One of Bergman's most underrated films.

>>68711162
Yes

>>68711253
Yes sir

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Return of the Living Dead is mandatory /dark/ viewing

lots of deathrock bands in the soundtrack

>>68707421 >>68708728
>you will never be a Roman who slaughters Goths on a daily basis

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YOU THINK THIS IS A FUCKING COSTUME?

THIS IS A WAY OF LIFE!

Noob here.

Can someone post separate examples of:
>Goth Rock
>Death Rock
>Cold Wave

I am unfamiliar with these three genres.

>>68711513
just go on wikipedia

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>>68697902
Whitehouse - Bird Seed

>>68711812
>severely underrated industrial
more like severely overrated power electronics

>>68711812
:P

>>68711843
>not being man enough for Whitehouse

>>68712376
whitehouse ain't macho.
they got nothing on Nitzer Ebb

>>68712376
How is whitehouse either industrial or underrated, mr. man

>>68712464
Love Nitzer Ebb too
It's very macho, it's music that tries to get you to think about yourself in the most confrontational way possible.

THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EM
I'LL SHOW YOU EMOTIONAL TRUTH
I'LL SHOW YOU THE FUCKING SOURCE
I'LL SHOW YOU YET ANOTHER FUCKING LIAR

>>68712542
>industrial
It's industrial in the original Throbbing Gristle tradition of harsh music rather than danceable

>underrated
I never hear it mentioned

MUSCLE AND HATE

>>68712763
Oh, so industrial in name only.
Actually power electronics
>I never hear it mentioned
Oh so THAT'S why it's so overrated? half of the people who listened to it aren't aware of the fact that it's already been mentioned and lauded tons of time, so they think it's gotta be super cool if they haven't heard it mentioned yet.

I see.

>>68712746
That's not being macho that's being preachy and obnoxious.

>>68712822
>being this anal about distinctions of genre

Wew lad

>>68712822
Calm down

>>68712841
genre distinctions are important. When I ask for industrial I don't want a white dude freestyle rapping over one long continuous glitchfart

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>>68712774
https://youtu.be/ouZ-0EXnbj8

>>68712877
I refer you to this post
>>68712857

>distinctions
Okay, you obviously feel passionately about this subject, as do I, so why don't you stop whining and recommend me some good fucking music

>>68712822
>>68712877
Your meds.

Take some.

>make Swans fanboys listen to Nitzer Ebb
>"WOAH IT'S LIKE FILTH BUT WITH SYNTHS INSTEAD OF GUITARS! IT'S ABOUT MUSCLE AND STUFF!"
I wonder how they'd react to Manowar.
Pretty sure they'd call it "Filth but with opera vocals instead of grunts".

>>68712908
There's no underrated industrial, all the good projects have been circlejerked to death at some point.

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>>68712888
I love that one. Been listening to this one a lot lately and though it's less militant and repetitive (attributes I admire) and produced by Flood so more slick, it's still great

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>>68712932

>>68711513
>>68711513
>>68711513

Please Respond.

>>68712962
Seems like e got one live right there.

How long did it take you to realize that Swans don't have a monopoly on macho music?

>>68712972
>Gothic rock
Bauhaus
>Deathrock
Christian death
>Coldwave
Asylum Party

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>>68712950
Bullshit:

The Klinik
Click Click
Severed Heads
Prometheus Burning
Katarrhaktes
Sleep Chamber
Unter Null
ESA
Kevorkian Deathcycle
Brainclaw

Go fuck yourself.

>>68713004
Unter Null is typical harsh EBM that was very popular in the mid-2000s

>>68713033
Continued:

E Craft
Straftanz
Z'ev
Monte Cazzazza
Experiment Haywire
Pneumatic Detach
Die Krupps

Shall we continue?

>>68713004
I'm not that faggot. I'm inundated with that list, gimme just one

Is no-wave /dark/?

>>68713392
no

>>68711162
Check out these bands too, all from the LA scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd7oX4AM59w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0lTDahLvFQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oglu63D1SkQ

>>68713392
Yes

>>68713066
>Die Krupps
>underrated

Also Straftanz isn't an act it's a song that gets remixed by several DJs.
It's a massive club hit. Hard to underrate that.

>>68711162
>>68713415
Also Shadow Project was a side project of Rozz Williams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bLn0XkbacU

>>68712991
what albums to start with?

https://youtu.be/NN94jtXtf6E

>>68713392
maybe

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>>68713470
In the flat field, only theatre of pain, borderline

>>68713506
>Prayers on Fire

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>>68713440
Die Krupps are very underrated when put up alongside shittier acts like Rammstein.

And funny. I saw Straftanz open for VNV Nation. Looked like an act to me.

Can you go away now. I'm afraid your stupidity might be infectious.

Why just like modern jazz? Why just like Boyd Rice, or Sonic Youth, or The Swans? Why not mutate the whole bloody thing and make the most godawful sound that you can. We want to take that rock element to the extreme and make it do things that it was never theoretically designed to do.

>>68713707
who are you talking to?

>>68713725
uh no one, did you see me quote anyone?

>>68713707
What

>>68713774

>>68713707
>>68713725
>>68713746
>>68713774
>>68713797
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLAB!

The band's style has been described as a mixture of "modern funk, freeform jazz and punk white noise". Dray said of the band's music:

"Why just like modern jazz? Why just like Boyd Rice, or Sonic Youth, or The Swans? Why not mutate the whole bloody thing and make the most godawful sound that you can. We want to take that rock element to the extreme and make it do things that it was never theoretically designed to do.

>>68713899
>the swans

>>68713392
nou

>>68713899
>The swans

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>>68695844
Kiss the anus of a black cat are shit
They're just shite
You're going to say to me "well taste in music is subjective and..." shut up
Of course it is, but still some groups can be absolute garbage.
I usually like most of what's discussed on dark.
You guys need to go see them live, see how mediocre they are.
When I discovered them I liked their album, but after the show I deleted all their music. There is nothing to the performance, it's shit and fucking loud.
The band the played after them, some underground dark shit from switzerland was really good and I think that you people could really dig it. It's called : metzger & bauer
Their album are Free.
Pic related

>>68709931
I'm Dutch aswell and there are lots of Halloween events going on around here man. It's really a thing lately.
But yeah I have no friends so I won't be going to any of them either.

new beat bump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hkwtZ29uFc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBNWKJ4SmPY
> Techno, Dark Ambient, Industrial, Experimental

>>68697872
>the last one died cause it was nothing but yt link spam from one dude with no discussion

Because album circlejerks must be a greater discussion.

>>68714205
>When I discovered them I liked their album, but after the show I deleted all their music.

So you only deleted To Live Vicariously? Seems like you didn't listen to the rest of their music. And you would've known their current live getup wasn't excellent if you watched their performances on YouTube.

Music doesn't owe you anything. But I probably bit the bait.

>>68700295
IT'S GENOCIDE
CAN'T YOU SEE?

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What's the best, spookiest album in the spooky chart?
I've listened to a few of the albums listed and thus far I still think Soundtracks takes the cake.

>>68718590
my diary

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LEBANON HANOVER
STILL BEST /dark/ BAND OF MODERN TIMES

>>68719479
i like their underscore song
no clue what the lyrics mean
absolutely love it

>>68712950
I haven't heard of half of these bands and songs and I love them

Do the Legendary Pink Dots fall into the /dark/ genre?

>>68719580
wat song?

>>68719820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV9-e7ulBb0

>>68719867
oh, i liked die world ii from that album. I like williams singing a lot more, he gives off the vibe better

>>68719706
They are one of Skinny Puppy's main influences.

>>68719706
Yeah they're a mix of psychedelia, goth, and industrial.

i just took a lot of mushrooms, ~7grams. I want it to be /dark/, any recs?

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>>68721518
Refer to>>68698638
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DvJcbitmoZY

>try to find a full album version of the eye someone posted here a week or two ago
>finally find link through history
>This video is no longer available because the uploader has closed their YouTube account.

JUST

>>68721518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NssxJ0kvcM&list=PL_PD_RD4vvcjlCJWDSz_K3uhWZ0O2kef7

>>68721518
check out crash worship which is amazing psychedelic post industrial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVAFCxduhq0

>>68721747
this is great, any more where tht almost whisper-y vocal effect is layered like this?

>>68721791
iirc a few other CW tracks have it. the only other example of a similar style that's coming to mind is sutcliffe jugend - blue rabbit, especially on bad-mannered prophet. but that has a very different tone and I wouldn't suggest listening to it on shrooms. I should be able to think of more but nothings coming to mind atm

>>68721949
I've got it open in another tab, I'm starting to feel it. Why not on shrooms?

>>68722242
cause it's super creepy power electronics. I mean, do you, but I wouldn't is all im saying

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story time /dark/.

>in one of my upper-division college classes today.
>always sit in the very back with this shy/quiet qt gril
>we've talked about music a couple of times and how we both like punk
>today she turns to me and says "do you like darkwave? you should check out this band called black marble."
>mfw

what do?

>>68722456
i would wife her desu

>>68722456
New Black Marble album when?

>>68721518
no better choice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE-nHkeQSOg

>>68723230
it came out like a month ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPnWLUEWBQc

>>68713415
DO YOU WANT TO PARTYYY
ITS PARTY TIME!

>>68723318
HOLY SHIT

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Bump for Foetus and Gira

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>>68713506
I feel like people overrate Bauhaus alot however I've only listened to Bela Lugosi's Dead, are they really worth getting into?

>>68725558
>I feel like people overrate Bauhaus alot
>however I've only listened to Bela Lugosi's Dead
nigga what are you doing? listen to in the flat field and the sky's gone out

>>68725558
Why did you bother asking for (YOU) to figure out to continue listening to another song by the same band? What the fuck.

>>68725876
>spoonfeeding

This is going to get worse the next few days when the "gibs me spoopy patrician reccs for the Halloween party xD" requests start pouring in.

>>68725558
They've put out some pretty good albums. Nothing mind blowing imo but solid.
Mask is probably the best in their catalogue for most people. Consider starting with it if you want to try out Bauhaus.
It's on the spookier side of goth and they've got a good sound to go with it, generally speaking. Worth checking out if you're into the whole /dark/ thing.

>>68721518
Coil- Musick to play in the dark vol 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO2UXQOTi0I

>>68713392

Not really. It was edgy underground music, but it never quite took itself seriously enough to really be /dark/.

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>>68723318
does anyone have a link for this?

>>68726687
I asked because it's an offshoot of post-punk

>>68727282
>it's an offshoot of post-punk
yeah but they're pretty distantly related. wasn't it meant to be a rebellion against new wave?

>>68727318
the idea of melodies and traditional music were trashed but I can hear a lot of influence from the post punk scene

>>68727282

Post-punk has more focus on atmosphere while still being deconstructive and rebellious.

No Wave was almost entirely deconstruction and rebellion; the lack of production, intentional lack of meaningful lyrics and cohesive structure meant that it was very messy chaotic music that had little to no real atmosphere to it that could really make it /dark/. Some of the early-80s ("Post-No Wave") could be /dark/ because it had more thought put into the atmospheric part of the music, but the majority was not.

>>68698122
yes. I liked their first one a lot, especially last winter but this new album btfo.

are the swans /dark/?

>>68727969
they went through a /dark/ phase in the 90s

>>68728617
the swans were /dark/ in the late 80s though

>>68706357
rood

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>>68722456
have sex with her today

how many people itt wear all black most of the time?

Did that one guy ever finish the Mega with the collection of essentials?

>>68727221
>>68723318

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>>68728833
Me

>>68728833
In winter I do.

>>68698959
midori

>>68728887
No

>>68728833
Black or black and grey

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>>68707109
Yes, absolutely. I'm away from home for a year for school so tapes are a good for having a physical release that is still somewhat 'analog' like an LP. Also, they don't take up much space, which is a plus for me. Pic related.

Newer post-punk/goth::
Guignol - Demo MMXIV
>dark post-punk
https://thetrueguignol.bandcamp.com/

Garden of Mary - The Agony in Memory
>post-punk, lot's of great reverb going on
https://gardenofmary.bandcamp.com/album/the-agony-in-memory

>>68727221
This is p nice
It's on Spotify btw

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>>68727221
Heard someone wanted this

Black Marble - It's Immaterial
>post-punk, minimal wave, coldwave
https://mega.nz/#!AQJlXBSB!KrUoBtDpte6d9CHR0Gk6TFDUXiFGUsrJBEMhc8_SqMA

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>>68731208
>>68727221
Just listened to this. While it's not bad it felt overlong even though it's not even 40 minutes long.

>>68709931
>>68714488
Dutchbro here. Halloween is a cancerous holiday forced upon us by the media and corporations looking for any excuse to sell us more useless shit. This year especially it seems to have become more prominent.

Sint Maarten is the superior traditional holiday.

That said, I am attending a halloween party next week, because parties are fun. But I'm not dressing up, fuck that shit.

>>68731869
I have never seen kids celebrating either st Maarten or Halloween here. I live in a Limburgish hole though. If I want to dress up I just have to wait for Carnaval.

I want a /dark/ fashion thread but /fa/ is awful

>This entire thread
>Not a single Switchblade Symphony song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni41zEYGglE

>>68732059
talk shit, post fit

>>68732059
Just do it. I won't shitpost in it and I think I have stuff to contribute

The Discord is sad and lonely, please, come.
Everything is fine there

>>68732967
Link?

>>68732926
>>68732059
>>>/fa/11907158

https://youtu.be/qRGRmIKbbOU

>>68728833
mostly black with red logos on 90% of the shirts

>>68731676
i disagree,it's one of the better things to come out in a while. It's ambient but not out of touch, beautiful vocals, and clean tracks throughout. Really fun to listen to. Real good (meme)wave album. 9.5/10 from me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRcxkW-NQ18

Post-punk revival anyone?

>>68734919
If you mean shit like Placebo and the Killers, it's garbage for preteen girls.

>>68734919
TOTBL is the only decent album

>>68734919
Lebanon Hanover
She past away

I love Bauhaus' first album but the rest that followed sort of don't click for me. Dark Entries and In The Flat Field are great songs and I wish there was a whole album of songs like them.

Anyone heard the new Marching Church album yet?

>>68730949
This is amazing! Does anyone have a dl link to Garden of Mary's The Agony of Memory EP?

>>68731208
damn, i bought it on itunes last night beacuse i didn't think anyone would deliver. thanks anyways anon. you're awesome.

>>68733055
It's in the OP

>>68728833
Half of my wardrobe is black clothing and the other half is exceptionally bright clothing.

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>>68728833
i only wear black long sleeve shirts and hoodies, and i want to move on to something /dark/er like in >>68719479

got these boots today, they look pretty shitty in the picture, but they are surprisingly comfy and spacious

>>68698077
I agree Coil's absolute best is Time Machines and Remote Viewers or any of their ambient type tracks, I don't really listen to any of their music that has lyrical themes because I'm a Christian and it's just jewish nihilism

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>>68728833
I'm not a goth as it's juvinile to follow subcultures, but I usually wear stuff like nice dress shirts buttoned down a bit with my crucifix necklace to show that I follow Christ, I also wear some nice dark brownish black pants and adidas superstars or combat boots if I'm feeling fashy

>>68740488
>current year
>using itunes and not bandcamp

>>68743494
i have giftcards m80. itunes money is a step above dirt.

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>>68742746
i have these

Dont die!

>>68745121
no its okay
were just going to rise up again, a fresh new corpse ready for another half a day of adventures

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What is your favorite Test Dept. release, /dark/?

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>>68746058
pic related. so glad i got this on vinyl.

What do you think?
https://drabmajesty.bandcamp.com/

>>68746058
Unacceptable face of freedom