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Why is smooth jazz not as well regarded as free jazz? I was rewatching

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Why is smooth jazz not as well regarded as free jazz? I was rewatching Taxi Driver and I forgot how much I loved the smooth jazz interlude between scenes.
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Why is 1900-1930s jazz not as well regarded as every derivative genre that followed?
It's clearly superior
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>>68588990
Are you joking? Because I actually think that's somewhat true.
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>>68589118
Not at all. Some early jazz bands had imaginative orchestration and an intoxicating rhythm.
Loosening the structure and dragging the lines too far transformed the genre into a meme
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>>68588593
That's not smooth jazz it's closer to old style ballads.

ex.

Smooth Jazz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVTR09K4K0c

Ballads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upZ00qxXrBg
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>>68589635
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upZ00qxXrBg
That's pretty good
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>>68588593
It's not smooth jazz. Smooth jazz is corny as fuck shit like Kenny G.
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>>68588593
That's not smooth jazz.
smooth jazz isn't even real jazz
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>>68588593
The Taxi Driver soundtrack is hardly smooth jazz, it's pretty strongly in the jazzy soundtrack tradition. Bernard Herrmann who composed it was one of the first masters of soundtrack music starting with Citizen Kane in the early 40's.

What is known as smooth jazz grew during the 70's from fusion combined with popular music ideas of the time. I guess by the time of Taxi Driver this was already going strong, but I wouldn't myself classify Taxi Driver soundtrack as "smooth jazz" - to me it's always been the end-of-an-era milestone where that kind of jazzy music was used as a non-ironic description of a big city vibe in present day - wouldn't take long until that kind of jazziness became a vehicle for demonstrating that the movie took place in the 40's or whatever - there's some overlap, but compare Chinatown from 1974 and Taxi Driver from 1976.
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>>68588593
You're confusing genres/terminology.

Taxi Driver's soundtrack is more in line with noir-style soundtracks of the 50s, and for non-soundtrack related music, check out arrangers and composers like Nelson Riddle, Gunther Schuller, Gil Evans or Oliver Nelson.

Smooth jazz is just starting to take off around the time of Taxi Driver and is very different sounding. Think Kenny G, George Benson (he has great non-smooth stuff as well), Spyro Grya, etc. More closely related to fusion than any other kind of jazz.
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What's that heavy noir style of jazz called anyway? Can't name any actual noir movie songs, so I'm just gonna post the next best thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd7oo1biPBE
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>>68588990
bait
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>>68590394
this track is pretty heavy on early big band swing -style, although with improvements in sound quality mean that it's really the 90's swing revival that coexisted with the dreaded electro-swing that has this sound

check out Cab Calloway doing Minnie The Moocher (later revived in the Blues Brother movie) for some of that original spirit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mq4UT4VnbE
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>>68590102
>smooth jazz isn't even real jazz
Come on...
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>>68591738
Any patrician smooth jazz recommendations?
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>>68591880
Chic Corea
Kenny G
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