when did rock become uncool? i don't know anyone who still

>america

>>68280507
go outside and ask anyone under the age of 40 their favorite artists
it'll be like 20 tries before you find someone who says a rock band

when every mainstream rock band was either aping eddie vetter/chris cornell or the chameleons

>>68280568
No, not true. At least not where I live and people that I meet.

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Why aren't there any non-troll threads on this board?

>>68279578
Hip hop and EDM are about to become uncool too
>>68280623
that image is very uncool too

>>68280604
Probably because you live in a White area you racist bigot.

>>68280675
True

>>68280635
You think fags are cool?

>>68279578
>mac dememeco/tame impala/vampire weekend
just call it indie you autistic fuck

>>68280635
i fucking hope so
but what will replace them?

More than half of the population was born after rock became mainstream, of course it's not going to be cool anymore. Beatnik shit isn't cool anymore either.

Cool is new and hip, something half a century old isn't either of those things.

>>68280635
It's not supposed to be cool, that's why it's calling trolls fags. Where are the non-troll threads, again?

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>>68280763
>he still thinks "indie" is a genre
Is it 2006 again?

>>68280768
Vaporwave
Not even kidding. It's growing with the normies by the day.

>>68280790
it's a common label for those three artists. easier than just typing them all out. it may not be a genre, but it's an easy filter for shit music

Where the fuck do you guys live where rock isnt a popular genre.

>>68280912
Seattle
Old fucks listen to rock but young people only listen to hip hop and EDM.

The next influx/movement of music (around 2021 or 2022) will be edgy, political, and alt-right

cap this

collegefag, everyone who isnt socially weird only listens to hiphop and edm essentially

>>68280568
>caring about whats cool
thats the most uncoool stuff you can do

Why do white people try so desperately to act black nowadays?

>>68280953
rthey're unning out of ways to feel different to other boring middle class white people

>>68280953
this, holy fuck

i don't even listen to rock but i am beyond sick to death of this whole ironic black twitter distorted spongebob images dicks out for harambe xDDDDDDDDD shit

complete, fucking, cancer. all of it.

>>68281012
i agree
its everywhere at my college
they blast trap and smoke backwoods and dress like rappers and are obsessed with basketball and no chill posts on twitter yet they're upper middle class suburban white kids who are business majors. they think they're hard.

>>68281012
Harambe was a thing before black twitter took a hold of it.

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>>68280936
>into exotica, lounge jazz, and Tin Pan Alley pop
>mfw kitschy "square" music becomes popular again

Is this what it feels like to be a trendsetter?

>>68279578
I listen to rock, sometimes grunge for the sake of nostalgia. Anybody listen to Unisonic? They're pretty good.

>>68279578
Roughly, at the beginning of this new decade with rap/hip hop taking the hegemonic place rock music had as a trend setter, most popular genre and source of artistic innovation, plus a paradigm shift from rockism to a more poptimist stance in music journalism.
However, hip hop isnt as widely popular in all the world as rock was 30/40 years ago.

>>68280953
White american pop culture was always ripped off from blacks.

>>68282001
Let's be honest here, hip hop has had barely any artistic innovation lately

>>68282001
>Poptimist stance in journalism

This means jackshit in our culture as a whole

I know MANY people who are into buttrock and patiently waiting for a rock revival. There's a huge subset of the population who still hate pop and hip hop.

>>68279578
>when did being white become uncool?
ftfy

When record labels stopped funding rock.

>>68282346
There we go. I could sure use a new Queen and a new AC/DC and so can you.

>>68282546
This

record labels single-handedly decide what's popular, and they try to make sure that they fund stuff that will be most guaranteed to stay trendy for longer (ie "you're racist if you don't like rap" compelling people to listen to bottom of the barrel trap to look cool). The last thing they want is another movement of edgy, controversial, independent music that suddenly disturbs the status quo like punk rock.

Hell, most "indie" is pushed and marketed by major labels to sell to a defined middle-market of teens and hipsters who just started listening to music and don't have their own taste .

>>68282637
For example, rock took over from 1965 onward because the record industry+radio stations decided to throw their weight behind it instead of jazz.

>>68279578
>Mac demarco
>Vampire weekend
>Odd

Also, it stopped being cool because it got stale and ran out of ideas. Just like hip hop will soon face as well.

>>68280763
Shut the fuck up

>>68282724
>rock took over from 1965 onward
lmao I bet you think the Beatles were the first rock band

>>68280815
Blank banshee doesnot count

>>68282346
But in the mainstream media they are (thankfully) scorned as immature or edgy at best or low key sexist/racist at worst.

>>68282755
Never claimed that.

>>68282001
the majority of mainstream listeners don't give a shit about journalism, or frankly any of these dumb narratives about rock and hip hop. they just listen to what spotify or the radio chooses for them. as a result they usually end up with a steady balance of new and old

>>68282637
>"you're racist if you don't like rap" compelling people to listen to bottom of the barrel trap to look cool
you're unironically retarded if you think this was some kind of intended master plan

>>68281210
70s Italian Lounge shit will be back in style soon, we gotta find a way to make money off this.

>>68280953
>like white people haven't been ripping off black art for the last century

>>68280768
Whatever the hell Frank Ocean did in his last album.

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>>68279578
You're confusing "mainstream" with "cool".

Even at its peak popularity of like the year 2000 when Marilyn Manson was sharing the atage with Eminem and Korn was taking over the #1 spot on MTV's TRL, knocking down mainstream artists and groups like NSync and Britney - it still wasn't cool.

If you were into Blink 182 or Static X in the 90s and then System of a Down or Sum 41 in te arly 200s you were a "cyborg" or "failed normie", in /r9k/ terms. You were a loner or edgy kid who sort of hung out with moderately popular kids but only because he knew where to get weed and would do dumb things for attention. Cool music was always pop and rap. I know, I was there and was one of those kids.

Even if the decades before that rock was always outcast fringe music, except maybe like the 1950s or 60s

So yeah, rock stopped being cool around the 60s.

>>68280953
This is so weird considering that black people barely made any contribution to the modern world

>>68280953

Making string music is ripping off black music you stupid rockist.

>>68284868
>literally built pre-industrial America with their own hands and fed the wealth of natural resources to England and other colonists

/pol/ please

>>68280953
White people have always been appropriating things from black culture. This isn't new.

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Metal has had a complete revival and subsequently become very cool. Even pitchfork are starting to realize this

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>>68279578
that spiker hair gel is unironically great for styling your hair if you combine it with using a hair dryer
>>68280568
there are plenty of dad rockers in the young white dude population
>>68281012
give in to the memes

Generic radio synthpop will never go out of style, and it will be the mainstream radio music for the rest of human existence.

Neo-soul will take the place of hip-hop as the mainstream alternative music.

Rock music is complete and totally played out. You literally cannot make a band today that is truly unique and not aping anything. Try to name one rock band from the last 20 years that you can say isn't imitating anything - you can't. By 2030 rock music will be a totally dead genre and nobody will make it anymore beyond a few gimmicky revival bands a la swing music.

>>68284895
Making blues and rock & roll is literally ripping off country and Irish folk you stupid blackist. Not to mention the influence modern classical had on jazz innovations in the 50s and 60s.

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>>68285001
I like metal but it is in no way seen as cool by the general population, and no amount of pitchfork reviews will change that. There may be some bands in the scene that are "cool" to some token hipsters, dudebros that listen to 5FDP, and washed up blonde ladies who like Motley Crue, but metal in general is very uncool to normies

>>68280953
This so much... like I actually grew up with blacks in Inglewood California and let me tell you.. all they're doing is trying to replicate what whites do but I'm a black way

Mind you that's how most black gangs started... trying to replicate white greaser and hot rod gangs

Stop trying to be like blacks
They've been trying to assimilate forever into white culture and because they tend to have a little more flavor when doing it you think it means they're trying to make their own shit so then you start that fucking dividing cycle

Idiots

>>68285017
Violent femmes

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>>68283649
people who type like this need to go back to r.eddit

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>>68284778
>Even if the decades before that rock was always outcast fringe music, except maybe like the 1950s or 60s
>So yeah, rock stopped being cool around the 60s

>>68285070
Metal was at the peak of its coolness in the 80s desu.

>>68284778
>Cool music was always pop and rap.
Yeah all those alpha males in the 70s listening to disco, right?

The "cool" rock has always been blues/hard rock/heavy metal. Loner outcast kids would be into punk or David Bowie or something

>>68279578
>when did rock become uncool?

When indie rock and being hipster stopped being cool. That was rock's last breath of life.

>>68285589
that was back when it was new, mysterious and considered edgy to the general population, before there was a stereotype for metal fans. it will probably never be seen as cool again

>>68280568
>go outside

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"Growing up, I was the only kid I knew who was into music. Most of the guys I went to school with were just interested in drinking, fighting, and chasing girls. The whole experience left me with a seething hatred of the American macho male. I like being around women and homosexuals."

>>68285698
>that face
>"seething hatred of the American macho male"
k bud

Kurt also said that he was a loner at school because nobody was interested in the stuff he liked, he was basically a robot

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>>68285717
>Kurt also said that he was a loner at school because nobody was interested in the stuff he liked, he was basically a robot
Yeah no wonder Christgau loved Nirvana. He could identity with KC.

>>68279578
>when did rock become uncool?
Nu-metal and Post grunge, after all who the hell would want to occupy the same musical space as Nickelback or Fred Durst?

>>68284939
this

Whites don't make culture they """assimilate""" it

>>68285823
And...? The 70s had Styx and Boston. Those were every bit as awful as Nickelback.

>>68285592
>Yeah all those alpha males in the 70s listening to disco, right?

Actually, yeah. Being an alpha male is about getting puss regardless of music and 70s metal was a sausage fest of heroin addict ex-hippies.

>implying whites are even a cohesive social group in america
stop

>>68285860
>Whites don't make culture they """assimilate""" it
There was music made before 1910 you know

I'm not kidding. The commercialization of rock began in the mid-70s as the counterculture era was winding down. Thus you had Styx, Doobie Brothers, Kiss, Eagles, and other assorted bullshit.

>>68279578
when I was in like grade 7 or 8 a black dude I was friends with said to me, "man it must suck to be a rocker".
It sticks with me to this day because at the time I didn't realize it but it kinda did.
at that time the first Eminem record had just come out and everybody was "discovering" rap.
I bucked at the trend and began a long and embarrassing habit of being an outsider that I would grow to regret later in life as I lost out on party invites and attention from girls all through high school

>>68285698
Maybe he's just now washed out by his influences but Kurt Kobain seriously sounds like an 8th grade Tumblr user that thinks they're way more profound than they actually are

Imagine someone who wasn't Kurt Kobain saying this

>>68285698
He does legitimately have the "JUST" expression though I'll give him that

>>68286068
>Kurt Kobain

>>68286068
you're 100% correct here.
lots of famous people; and especially dead famous people have really insipid and vapid quotes that fanboys fawn over and make facebook-tier memes of, but if you examine them out of context they are just absolutely abhorrent

>>68285698
"I'd just like to remind you all--if any of you hate women, homosexuals, or people of color, then stay the fuck away from us! Don't buy our music and don't come to our shows."

I stopped listening to rock as I got older
They don't even use autotune in their songs who the fuck can enjoy that

>Kurt Cobain was basically a SJW Tumblr kid at a time when it was edgy
>his music gets played next to Lynyrd Skynyrd and KISS on classic rock stations these days

kinda funny

"On the one hand, you have legitimate artists like The Pixies who have something to say in their music, and on the other hand, you have the big, dumb, loud let's-party-until-the-world-ends bands like Van Halen."

>>68286023
what a nerd.
I vehemently hated rap in middle school but I just listened to Joy Division and Smashing Pumpkins and felt pretty smug about it.

"We turned down GNR. That would have been a big waste of time. It was inevitable that the corporate world would try to capitalize on the alternative movement. I don't know about Soundgarden, we hung out with them and they seemed like great guys, but on the other hand you have bands like Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains that are obvious corporate puppets. Many of these guys were involved in the hairspray/cockrock scene for years and now quit washing their hair, put on flannel, and fly up to Seattle from Los Angeles to get a record deal and act as if they've lived here all their life. It's very offensive to me."

>>68286328
yeah well I guess while most of my peers were finding out about rap I was finding out about black metal and that sort of thing.
equally cringey in retrospect.

>>68286278
His lyrics were too abstract and didn't reflect any of that though, so it's not a surprise that he ends up being a dad rock classic.

>>68286312
What the fuck do the pixies actually say in their music?

>>68286378
this is correct

>>68286551
he jelly that they had better musicianship than his band

>>68279578
Because nobody cares about white people anymore

>>68286601
"Musicianship" doesn't matter

>>68279578
>when did rock become uncool?
1961

>>68286642
>>68284778
*yawn*

Rock stopped being cool because everything after the birth of grunge/alternative was absolute crap. At least any of the "mainstream" rock; Before the 90s there were rock bands that made it to the mainstream that were actually somewhat good/original.

I think the next step in a full rock revival will be from bands continuing to experiment with electronic music with live instruments.

>>68286601
Kurt was actually the best guitarist from that whole grunge scene

>>68286068
It's cringey when he says it as well.

I like that old type of rock and roll. Today's music ain't got the same soul.

ITT: WE

>>68280768
Feminist spoken-word manifestos.

Or black music will just continue to reign supreme, I honestly don't see it changing anytime soon.

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>>68279578
>Kicks down the door

THE FUCK YOU JUST SAY!?

>>68284778
You do realize jock-rock was huge in the 80's and 90's, right?

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>>68284926

>>68286312
Van Halen > Pixies tho.

>>68279578
It comes and goes into the mainstream "cool" every other decade or so, usually in another form of rock or another.

It was cool, mainstream cool, for a decade around the mid 90s and mid 2000s, and now it's out of the mainstream for the time being.

Who cares.

It's always cool, or not depending on who's judging it, regardless of its mainstream status or not.

>>68286462
dude weed lamo

>>68280953
I like how so many of them think they're progressive by doing it bcos their parents hate hiphop

I see a lot of people wearing rock band t-shirts so I guess it depends where you live