Post Hip-Hop

earl sweatshirt - solace

>>68177437
beyoncé

Post Hip-Hop is not a genre and should not be one.

That being said, Atrocity Exhibition

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Update

The Cold Vein

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update

>>68177992
WHERE THE FUCK IS BLURYFACE ?

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>>68178025
no may mays my g

Young Thug - Jeffery
Death Grips - the powers that b
Travis Scott - Rodeo
Madvillainy
Kanye West - Yeezus

yeezus (2013)

Can someone define "post hip hop" real quick.

>>68178123
hip hop that experiments with the traditional formula by having eccentric flows and rhyme patterns or uses uncommon and avant-garde instrumentals

>>68178123
after hip-hop

>>68178114
if dubs permenantly remove everything but solace, AE, NOTM and Jeffry

>>68178123
"Post-" means that the genre was created by people familiar with and reacting or responding to the original genre. The term often gets associated with a genre that superficially sounds like the genre that originally inspired it but which intentionally subverts one of the dominant aspect of the previous genre.

For example, in the 80's, rock was about charismatic vocalists and strong, simple riffs and power chords. Post rock came along and made music using the same instruments and general sound, but downplayed (or removed) the vocals, and used guitars as much for sound and tone as for riffs.

>>68178146
What are some of the "avant-garde instrumentals" on the albums so far?

>>68177437
nothing cause post hip-hop is a dumb concept, can't shit just be hip hop?

how is rodeo post hip hop

>>68178123
Regular EDM loops and rapping.

Opposed to the original hip hop of turntablism, breaks and rapping.

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game changer
also XXX amd Old

>>68178176
Not that guy but "Danny Brown - Ain't It Funny" is one of them for sure.

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what does /mu/ think about Tetsuo and Youth

>>68178001
not even close

>>68178114
jeffery, rodeo, yeezus, the cold vein, and untitled unmastered are extremely hip hop no matter how you look at them

>>68178214
just cause you like an album doesn't make it a game changer or post hip hop

>>68178241
fair enough

name replacements

>>68177437
Lil Ugly Mane - Oblivion Access

>>68178284
dont give in to every thing someone fucking says in this thread, you cuck OP

yeezus is the epitome of post hiphop and youre gonna remove it cause ONE fucktard says its not?

>>68178214
wrong for all of them

>>68178312
untitled unmastered is hip hop

alright class

SHOULD YEEZUS REMAIN ON THE CHART

This is just memerap you want to give a new label to feel superior about.

>>68178383
yeah

remove Rodeo, T&Y, UU and XXX

>>68178345
how in the fuck is Yeezus post hip hop? its weird yeah, it's got dog barking sampled and has a variety of sounds yeah, that doesn't make something a whole other genre lol

>>68178367
your face is wrong because post hip hop isn't a thing I'm leaving this stupid thread

just stop right now please

before it gets worse

1 vote yah

1 vote nah

UNKLE - Psyence Fiction

>>68178312
Get XXX out of there, that's old school rap more than 60% of the time

Also, this: https://soundcloud.com/deepfrigidwinter/sets/variable-unbearable

>>68178288

That's like a poormans El-P. There is nothing original about LUM. He just a good song writer/producer.

I really think Madvillainy should be there instead of XXX and I don't think the genre has enough albums to fill this chart. Maybe half of it.

El-P: Cancer 4 Cure
Moodie Black: Nausea

Kid Koala obviously

>>68178414

>>68178504
madvillainy is hip hop

Atrocity Exhibition, NOTM, and my next album are the only things that deserve to be on this list as of now

Watch out for me

>>68177437
Atrocity Exhibition
The Powers That B
cLOUDDEAD
I Don't Look Shit I Don't Good Outside
Absence
Bigtyme Vol. II: All Screwed Up
Oblivion Access
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack

these are essentials.

>>68178565
Everything in here is.

I think Post-Hop (if this meme is becoming a thing), should literally just be Hip-Hop using mostly Post-Punk influences and samples

would Show Me the Body-Body War count?

>>68178586
touche. but that seemed especially egregious.

>>68178630
that is retarded, post-hop should be its own genre instead of just aping of something else.

Any Charles Hamilton mixtape

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjdoZIyV-cQ

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we back

>>68178699
>Still no Oblivion Access

>>68178663
Well then define the genre.

>>68178312
Dälek vs Faust

>>68178699
How are XXX, UU, and T&Y remotely fitting this non-existent genre?

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>>68178719
not going on, too many people said it sucked

>>68178723
Artists/albums insecure /mu/tants want to label with post- to feel superior.

>>68178755
Dälek vs Faust

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>>68178768
on board nigga

>Clipping - Splendor and Misery
The minimal beats, the dark and laid back tone.

Even though post-hop is definitely not a thing, if it was then I'd say S&M is a must.

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>>68178755
an anon posted it before, but I'm doing it again to get your attention. If post-hip hop is really a thing, then cLOUDDEAD is one of its principle birthers

Saul Williams - The Inevitable Rise And Liberation Of Niggy Tardust?

Also this whole thing is fucking stupid

I would add Negro Necro Nekros as well as Exmilitary. NNN for obvious reasons, but Exmilitary takes the "empowerment" aspect of hip-hop and pushes it to the nth degree in terms of lyrics.

from filthy tongues of gods and griots

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DANCE IN THE RAIN

AND NOT GET WET

>>68178818
This I can agree with

>>68178818
>>68178831

This I can't agree with

>>68178813
>>68178817
Seconding these two

ratking - so it goes

DJ Yoda & The Heritage Orchestra

Kill yourselves you fucking retards.

Post-hip hop is a pretentious, retarded label. Don't try to make it a thing.

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>>68178844
is this shit good anons

>>68178755
Let me take a wild guess, & say they listened to ten seconds of "EJCULATED POISON WRENCH" then stopped listening

Young Fathers: Dead

May as well stick Old on there (d brown)

>>68178871
no

add these two
>>68178817
>>68178854

>>68178871
Add Nas - Illmatic because it is clear this list does not care if an album is straight up hip-hop or not

>>68178172
That's fucking retarded. Post rock is just chamber music with guitars, calling it "post-rock" is pretentious and retarded. It's not post-anything. Most of it recycles easy listening and techno tropes, and there are tons of artists that use guitars for "sound and tone" before the 90s. Like the Velvets, or krautrock.

>>68178918
If Untitled Unmastered is on there, then TPAB should be too, given that they literally have the same sound.

Neither of them should be on this list though

Either Absence or From Filthy Tongues by Dalek

You retards think that if an instrumental is slightly weird sounding that it's "avant-garde".

You are obviously children. Hint: look up the definition of "avant-garde".

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>no Busdriver
cmon

>>68178755
>too many ppl said it sucked

Ummm, i think there were a few, but its fucking /mu/ that could be said about every single fucking album ever. Tons of people hate Yeezus but its still on there.

And what a bunch of people think about an albums quality shouldn't even affect what genre it is anyway.

Also put cLOUDDEAD on right now it is literally what post-hop is.

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>>68178871
Subtle - For Hero: For Foo

>>68178921
>Post rock is just chamber music with guitars

What? Why are you suddenly redefining a term most people have been comfortable with for over a decade?

>>68178961
>What? Why are you suddenly redefining a term most people have been comfortable with for over a decade?
No, I'm saying that the post-rock music is objectively just chamber music, played with guitars. Learn to read.

>>68178955
Disregard my last comment, didn't see that you put it on.

>>68178949
"new and unusual or experimental ideas"

New and unusual instrumentals are avant garde

Shabazz Palaces: Lese. Majesty

>ITT: hip hop albums you like

>>68178948
>>68178817
These, get on it

>>68178983
New and unusual, emphasis on "new".

Nothing Danny Brown does it new. Nothing any of the artists do is new. Avant-garde art pushes boundries, shocks people, and rejects conventionalized notions. Pitchfork has redefined the term so now every album that doesn't sound completely 100% bland and ripped off is "avant-garde".

>>68178976
>I'm saying that the post-rock music is objectively just chamber music, played with guitars

And what about the free-jazz, prog rock, musique concrete, and ambient elements? Nothing to say about that?

Open Mike Eagle: Dark Comedy

>>68179000
limiting it to 2 albums per artist nigga, otherwise memers will make this dalek, danny brown, kendrick and death grips

>>68178995
Remove XXX and Madvillainy, I love both (Madvillainy is actually my all time favorite hip-hop record.) but they're just slightly experimental albums, not really post-hop.

>>68179017
Show me something that sounds like Aint It Funny

the shaggs - philosophy of the world

>>68179019
Hm? What are you objecting to?
>>68179056
>if it doesn't sound exactly like something else it's avant-garde
Proving my point, thx bb

DJ Spooky - Optometry

Or is this for rap only?

>>68179030
Oh I didn't see you already had two.

My bad my man.

replaced madvillainy

anti pop consortium - arrhythmia

>>68178995
Why no DJ Screw or LUM? They both fit it perfectly.

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>>68179095
forgot pic my bad

>>68177437
Endtroducing.....

>>68179081
idk, we got kid koala on

If enough support it, yessir its up

>>68179118
add oblivion access

Wheres DS2?

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>>68179118
AHHH REMOVE UNTITLED UNMASTERED AHHHHHHH

>>68179143
this

>>68179272
don't even joke about putting that on here

>>68179326
this is so painfully bad

>>68179352
name some albums good man

>>68179326
exmilitary should not be on here, neither should xxx

>>68179366
You should start with removing the bad albums on that list

>>68179366
I can't because post-hip hop isn't a real genre

this is dumb
most of this is just experimental hip hop, some of it's just hip-hop. Post hip hop isn't a thing

>>68179399

name em, i put what people ask

>>68179411

Ones that should not be on the list, even with the loose definition of Post-Hop

Untitled Unmastered
Testuo and Youth
Cancer 4 Cure
Exmilitary
XXX
Solace

Ones you should add:

None more

>>68178699
Madvillainy is traditional Hip-Hop. Madlib does that kind of production for EVERYTHING.

If Madvillainy is Post Hip-Hop, then everything he's done should be too.

>>68178205
It's not, it's post-trap

Goes in the complete opposite direction of what trap is supposed to be while still being trap. Very glitzy, bombastic, rich, monumental, cinematic, booming, layered, and versatile production.

>>68179455
Agreed

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Soon 2 be

>>68179455
>>68179486
And Dead should be taken off too (though I love Young Fathers)

>>68177437
Black Up should be on there

>>68179484
Literally poor man's Kanye

Just because an album doesn't follow every single trope of the genre doesn't make it avant-garde.

Post hip hop is not real it is a meme term

Stop this meme

>>68179483
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madvillainy isnt on nigga

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Nobody posted this yet?

k den

For post-hip-hop i think ppl should be looking at new artists near the mainstream than underground pretentious shit

like young thug, future, and lil yachty
think about it
they flip everything that hip hop was founded on
the lyrics dont matter whatsoever (you cant even understand thug and future half the time), they are all singers now, and the beats are the most important part and the rappers just need to have good chemistry on the beat for it to be a good track

xxx, untitled unmastered, and atrocity exhibition are not "post-hip-hop" holy shit
even though they are unique, they still hold up the same standards hip-hop did 20 years ago

>>68179326
dude do you even listen to hip hop? you keep adding in shit that is nowhere close to "post hip hop" and asking people "is this good?" about pretty popular rap albums. you shouldn't be making this fucking chart you mindless hack

>>68179604
kek

>>68179586
t. meme-rap fan

>>68179622
this

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It has samples and Keith raps about space. One of this most innovative pieces of sound ever recorded.

You want proof, kid? Name me ONE album that sounds like Critical Beatdown. Heh. You fucking can't. These niggas are on the same level as Stockhausen and the Velvet Underground.

>>68179640
this thread was kind of a good idea but is fucking retarded. OP should feel bad, he didn't even know what fucking clouddead was and he's trying to make a "post hip hop" chart

daily reminder that the ONLY post-hip hop albums are niggas on the moon and derbe respect alder.

>>68179701
Niggas on the moon is easily the most post hip-hop can get

>>68179682
this shits interesting but there's definitely other old school albums that sound like this. no velvet underground level senpai

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put pic related on

>>68178067
Madvillainy is very traditional hip hop

>>68179586
Oh look at this hypocrite! We'll stop if you stop your Jason Aldean is good meme

>>68178146
This is the most pretentious meme I've ever seen in a while

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Captain Murphy - Duality

Gotta be on there

>>68180854
oh well now trippy jazz-rap is "post-hip hop"

I think the real question should be "what isn't post-hip hop"?

>>68178988
Shabazz Palaces should definitely be on there

also, sage because this thread is dumb

>>68180876
these fucking droogs think hip-hop is only east coast boom-bap.

>>68179790
it was sarcastic

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Here's one you fucking faggots

If you're going to put a DOOM album on there replace Madvillany with Vaudeville Villain

Also add Why?-Alopecia

And take out Untitled Unmastered wdf

>>68181004
this

>>68178146
>I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about: the post

>>68180931
>>68179604
>>68179229
>>68179272

Consider suicide

>>68178123
Basically it's a new meme

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heres a good one

>>68181169
they tricked you!

Hip hop is for children.

op hurry up and finish this meme

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here's a memed-down version of op's post cause he's a fag

>>68181669
You're missing Charles Hamilton m808

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Alright decided to modify the chart a bit since op is a huge cuck.

What do yall think? Is this new meme complete?

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>>68182237
Viktor Vaughn is questionable. That was the rappiest Doom's ever been. Other than that, pretty sure it's good. Consider Variable Unbearable as a replacement

>>68182360
Was going to put it on there, but it did not come up on the topsters2 search up

>>68178398
This

>>68178976
except it's not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PYO1TQMCPE

>>68177437
Barter 6

List of hip hop albums that I would consider post-hop:

clouddead s/t
the ziggurat
antipop vs mathew shipp
for hero:for fool
act 1: eternal sunshine (the pledge)
cystema solari
none of this is real
niggas on the moon

>>68179326
xxx, untitled unmastered, tetsuo and youth, yeezus, exmilitary, splendor and misery, arrhythmia and so it goes should not be on there.

This is all just experimental hip hop. Stop forcing this post hip hop nonsense.

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>>68178953
Fer real. I would post beau Eros though
>>68182988
Yeah I like antipop but that album isn't really post hh. Definitely Antipop Consortium vs. Matthew Shipp though

While the chart is absolutely shit, I might as well contribute with some Kool AD essentials:
Kool AD Acid Test
Kool and Kass - Coke Boys 5
ZIG ZAG ZIG

>>68183012
This

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Whatever Viper the Rapper is doing nowadays.
Also this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHcBDHrE45I

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I think it definitely deserves a place..

>>68182693

new thread

>>68178233
first time listening
pretty good