Fascist literally means a pile of faggots

>>182213

Classical liberalism led to the Jews wealth, which led to the Jews political influence, which led to discrimination protections an communism.

>>182624
Classical liberalism didnt lead to the corruption we have today.Thats corporatist oligarchisms fault aka neoliberalism and why do you faggots have to make everything about race?Jews dont have a conspiracy as a race to destroy western civilization.They just happened to be born in a culture that creates high iq individuals.Since they have high iqs they manipulated stupid americucks with media christianity and other forms of popaganda.
If we went back to classical liberalism or a stricter form of economic liberalism the wests problems would be solved

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"It doesn't matter that all these niggers want to kill me, I still have muh constitution."

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>>182213
>Wanting a strong leader to tell you what to do is a sign that your a weak beta faggot that likes worshipping other men and cant think for itself.

a fascist doesn't necessarily want that for themselves - they more often want that kind of a leader to put the faggots causing trouble in their place. And what's the alternative? A leader like that faggot Trudeau?

>>182624
this.

>>182943
>jews aren't part of a conspiracy
>they're just raised in a culture that encourages them to manipulate everyone else with media control and propaganda
This is what classical liberalism does to your brain everyone

>>183040
I didnt say the culture encouraged them to manipulate people.I said their culture created high iq individuals and like people of all races some use their intelligence for good and some for evil

>>183122
You can't just pretend that most jews don't have a jewish identity and attachment to jewish interests. Not a single one doesn't either have double standards for isreal or otherwise not care enough to do anything about it. Try to pretend they aren't overwhelmingly overrepresented in the leadership of anything terrible for the west, and then look at their own standards.

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>>182213
This.
Also truthbomb; the center does not exist. "Centrism" essentially amounts to a giant middle ground fallacy. yourlogicalfallacyis.com/middle-ground
A mental trick to use on oneself for people to feel better about knowing nothing. Understand that centrism is still a claim to political interest. The left and the right are lines that do not actually connect despite what we've been told. A center implies a value of Zero between the two. What exists 'between' the left and right is a void, nothing. Not "zero" but a null value; and it's name is being apolitical. Liberalism being left and opposed to conservatism is to misunderstand (and many ""report"" on this misunderstanding purposefully) the nature of these terms. In the past Liberalism was used as shorthand to what was actually meant: "more liberal action" "liberal progress never slowing". Now we have the term "Progressive" which reflects the actual interplay of terminologies going on. The left of old essentially claimed the mantle of ""Liberalism"" to imply their opposition wasn't. Even the right fell for this. The truth is that both are Liberal; just that in the left's case they are Progressive Liberals.
The thing Conservatives are trying to *conserve* is Classical Liberalism. Which is to say the liberalism of the founding fathers. We Conservatives know that Liberalism has two forms: conserving liberal values, and progressing liberal values. We Conservatives also know that activism is a bell-curve on a graph; that on that graph there is such a thing as too much activism and that more and more of it starts to degrade society where previously it improved it. The Progressive (which is to say wrong) view of Liberalism is that activism for it must keep going more and more never stopping. The Conservative view of Liberalism states that the sweet spot can be reached and once activism starts to go too far and starts to harm, we must then conserve the best, provably working, amount of perfect realistic Liberalism

>>183027
In a free market natural selection will do its work and get rid of all degenerates of all races, that includes both niggers and white trash

>>183230
Who says that the niggers are just going to adhere to your free market, who says they're going to even work?

>>183199
Conservatism is a philosophy of losing every battle by half, then trying to defend your new position just as ineffectually as the previous. It's garbage

>>183249
If they dont adhere and choose not to work they will die of poverty. Free market wins again

>>183027
That wall of text would be convincing if I actually agreed with the basic premise.
If our laws, lawmakers and its enforcers are unable to fairly and justly uphold these laws then our society is not fair or just.
If our laws, lawmakers and its enforcers show bias when applying these laws then our society is not just.

>>183122
Agreed
>>183198
Unlike the rest of /pol/ I don't view the Jew as an enemy but a rival. It is to our detriment and their advantage that they have occupied the high echelons of power and since I am a Meritocrat at my core I do not resent them for it. Nor do I like them sure, but rather than the NAP I subscribe to Might is Right (while still being a libertarian.)
Anyone who has ever lost ever deserved to lose BECAUSE they lost. Nothing less or more.

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>>182213
National Socialism is the only natural way to uphold order.

>>183249
When niggers or white trash run out of handouts they will naturally resort to violance (violating the NAP) once they violate the NAP we will be morally allowed to either kill them or inprison them depending on their crime.

>>183320
Essentially your philosophy is to pretend that the defeats white have suffered are totally deserved and so whites should stay un-united while jews and other races collaborate against us? You're shooting yourself in the foot. If you want victory, you need to stop making the mistakes that led to past failures

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>>183351
This.

>>182213
There will always be a man who when compared to makes everyone look like a beta cuck. Not everyone can be a leader, but naturally, there should be a leader.

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>>183280
>Conservatism is a philosophy of losing every battle by half
Almost ther skipper. The phenomenon you are detecting this the fact that our ring wing plight is a Sisyphean one. The Left can never ever be destroyed but we, the right, can. The left is entropy. It relates to my pet name for the left; "The Path of Least Resistance: The Ideology"

>>183424
A large problem is most conservatives aren't truly interested in realizing and improving on the philosophy of the founding fathers, they simply want to protect what they have right now. It's largely reactionary in its support base and they celebrate victory as soon as they win some small immediate battle. What vision do you have?

>>183351
The problem of using the force to enforce your ideology is that you only get it skin deep.
Just ask this american election.
As soon they're well hidden, they will plot and try to destroy you, and you will have to use a really significant amount of resources to keep it in line.
Sadly, playing the jew game is the most efficient way to control the population the way you want, including keeping the order.
Just ask the jews.

>>183424
Only memeticide can kill the left.

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>>183401

>>183351
Not that i'm implying that the jews are trying to keep the order, no no.
But if you play the same game as they do and use it to keep the order, you do keep the order with the people willingly doing so.
Even their "secret discussions" will be on how to do it better.

>>183393
>so whites should stay un-united
You should never fill in the blanks for your debatee opinions or beliefs. I never said nor believe anything approaching this.

My god an actual discussion about a political theory. This would be almost impossible on pol now. This is what pol was like 6 years ago.

>>183479
Yeah and fuck those conservatives. And? To be anything but a PaleoConservative is to be an inferior conservative.

>>183403
All dictators are failures as leaders , all they have done is leave the nation worst of.True leaders are capitalist entrentrepe, they are the ones who advance civilization

>>183424

I'd argue it's the opposite. The "right" is really stalwarts of existence without change, of old traditions and never changing ideals. The "left" are Sisyphus, they are pushing the boulder up in an attempt to change the eternal. It's a futile effort, because we will all return back to zero one day or another.

I guess what I'm saying is that truth cannot be changed, no matter how much Leftists want it.

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>>183545
Makes me think I can rekindle my old Bill Whittle general without ctr/shareblue/reddit fucking me over into whimpering irrelevance. The good old days.

>>183545

So the paid shills stay on pol because that's what they're being paid to do. When their employers tell them to start posting on mlpol a week from now, what happens?

>>183535
Only whites ever try to think
>we deserved to lose
And it drives me nuts. You say you don't resent the jews for everything that they've done to the west? That you don't see them as your enemy? It's insane.
>>183572
I guess I'm trying to ask what your vision for America is, something that could actually inspire people to think long term?

>>183535
I like you, you seem educated <3
I would point out that Jews did take part in the Frankfurt school of thought, something that actually did cause a divide in cultures regardless of meritocracy

>>182213
Classical liberalism is such a lovely idea, but it is too weak, and it allows degeneracy to take over society.

>>183485
A dead person is incapable of plotting against you

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>>182943
>They just happened to be born in a culture that creates high iq individuals.

>implying the main determinant of intelligence isn't race

This is why people laugh at you, you know

>>183485
Hitler was democratically elected. True Armericans would support it.

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>>182213
>Fascist literally means pile of faggots
Incorrect. A Fasces literally IS a pile of faggots,... bundled around an axe

>>183636
Hello fellow jew i know we are genetically superior but we cant let the goyim know about that

>>183613
Wrong. You have to realize that America and by extension the western existence is actually a freak of nature on the world.
Our exclence is hard fought an NOTHING close to anything even approaching a default. An open sewer has run through the center of "the village" because an open sewer has always run through the center of the village. The western way of thinking and problem solving is not natural and without supreme maintenance it will, does and has before collapsed.

>>183634
To have a dead person, you need 4 alive persons to track him down, discover he's a person you want dead in first place and the bullet, and handling of the body etc..
It's just not as efficient as paying 4 actors, having some show that is convincing enough on the television and convincing millions at once to not be someone you would hunt.

>>183613
>>183490
>>183424
Their is no left or right, their is only capitalists, corporatists and socialists

>>183627
>And it drives me nuts.
Good. Our great dilemma as not-cowards is that by design we will never allow ourselves to end these ad feelings simple for the sake of ebding them. We make failure our friend (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JlLbFZxrzrc) and we have to find a clever way of undoing the VERY atteactive bait of the path of least resistance the left has constructed for our youth.
And through real life meme and meta-posting we already are.

>what your vision for America is
Something misty eyed and fanciful incoming but, meh, give me your thoughts:
>2000 characters
Fug, forthcoming post

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>>183864
Do not forget Nationalist and Internationalist.

>>183627
>>183997
I had this idea for a "Meritocratic Party". Declare the Republican Party a failure to the right and vow to push it to the "center" (which I view, essentially, as a giant Middle ground Fallacy anyway) and claim the right in its stead. Invite all Libertarians, Constitution Party members, and Paleocons disgusted with the GOP and form this new Meritocratic Party. It would be necessary to get a bunch of big name supporters to simultaneously endorse it and even convert some big name celebs in a surprise event. Can't be a "minor" party like the old Libertarians, this has to be a threat as a
major one on it's inception.
Imagine if Trump made this statement while also extending an apologetic olive branch to PaleoConservatism while also expressing his disdain for neocons, RINOs, cuckservatives, and "crypto-Democrats" (as I like to say). Imagine. Got the idea from Bill Whittle's (superold) "Piranha Party" Afterburner. Meritocrat Piranhas?
In this new 3 party America the new Republicans in the ""center"" would be able to say the this society is a Constitutional Representative *Republic* an our party simply reflects this reality. So then the Democrats and Meritocrats to either side must say that their intent to do is is to modify the society with more Democracy and Meritocracy to the left/right respectively.

I'd also coin the term "Full-Right". A term to oppose the lefty go-tos of "Far" and "Extreme Right" which we will undoubtedly be labeled. "Full Right" refers to the entire thing; that is to say, both lightly right and as right as one could possibly go, and everything in between. It sounds arrogant but history has prove that it is truly the Wrong(left) and the Right.

>>183038
Im sorry that blacks bullied you and raped your boipussi as a kid but its your fault for being a beta faggot

I used to be full blown ancap but if you look at Nazi Germany they were super productive and got shit done. The same I doubt could be said about AnCaps though we don't have any real examples it's just a hunch... Whichever system gets me the most shit/is the most productive is the one I would go with

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>>184074
I realized you can only have a libertarian society with only white people.

>>184126
It's not a racial question, its a cultural one, which is why multiculturalism is cancer.
When you have a multiracial country where everyone follows the same culture, it will work as well as the culture allows em.

Which is quite bad on the case of my country, where no matter the color of the skin, everyone is a nigger.

>>184018
So your party would essentially be constitutionalism and liberalism? What ideals would it have that differentiate it from the republican party? Is it just an attempt to get away from the corrupt and RINOS?

I personally dislike liberalism simply because it largely leaves the nation open for subversion, which is a area in which jews flourish. Not because of their intelligence, but because it is the defining racial trait of jews. There are no shortage of intelligent whites, and the vast majority are nowhere nearly as inclined to or talented at subversion as jews. It simply isn't a white instinct, and white nations should be firmly against letting such techniques take root.

>>184314
*libertarianism, not liberalism

>>184220
Why do you think all these cultures developed differently though? Why despite 200 years of being in the U.S. the vast majority of blacks are still niggers? Hint, it's not poverty. Why bother with trying to get every single race and people to follow one culture? It's better to just have every race follow their one culture segregated from each other.

>>184126
im a spic and i lost some white friends for being a libertarian

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>>184327
And before someone goes off about population density, how does that even make sense? With more people around to see and report crime, crime should realistically be lower. It doesn't make any sense.

>>184327
Well, there's nothing wrong in kicking out the people that don't want to integrate.
But judge by the culture, not race.

>>184386
Incorrect on the population density. Being surrounded by other countless other people in close proximity is damaging for the psyche, lessens social responsibility, and devalues perception of human life. Not enough to account for how awful niggers are though

>>182213
I can agree with this. That being said, I'm also not an anarchist. I think libertarianism or centrism is our best bet to not becoming delusional cucked extremists.

>>184426
Just curious to know what are you politically, NS, fascist?

>>184455
mostly natsoc. Don't have much hope for America though. Still trying to find a balance between what is politically expedient, what is meaningful in the long term, and what is right

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>>184488
Those nat soc digits though. I believe a balkanization of the U.S. would be best. The south west goes to hispanics, blacks get south east, whites get north east, mid west and north west. This is what Rockwell was going to do, either that or move blacks to a colony in Africa. But minority populations are too high now for that.

>>182213
You always need a leader who acts is the will of the people you fucking autist.

That's how societies work.

>>184448
> doesn't know what cucked means

>>184555
I really hate the idea of giving up land to non-whites other than as a last resort. Besides, unless we dealt with the global jewish influence it'd just be a repeat of what pre WWII germany experienced no matter how much we sacrificed.

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>>184415
If whites become the minority they'll be completely screwed over for eternity. You judge by race to survive.

>>184126
Yeah, but once you have a libertarian social order, and all other races and all leftists have been physically removed so to speak, it's a system that is vastly superior to National Socialism.

>>184735
How so?

>>183351
It doesn't matter how we organize as long as we can in fact organize and defend ourselves

>>184735 this

>>184714
Well, you solve that as well if you kick by the culture, because you get rid of everyone that mass reproduce and don't care about the quality of the kids.

>>182213
Well, you had a group of political thugs who were constantly infighting and very murderous to boot, until an authoritarian came in to fix things. Then, this liberal authoritarian went on to conquer vast swaths of land from his neighbors. And, that sums up the classical liberals.

There's no solid ground a liberal can chastise a fascist using hyperbolic claims. Fascism is not anti freedom, but follows a certain social contract. In turn for limitations on certain expressions of freedom (outwardly not personally), degeneracy and chaos are kept at bay. In turn for disrupting certain capitalist trade (that's harmful) and government involvement, job security and workers wellbeing is assured. As for the leader thing, the fascist leader is like any leader in a state in terms of popularity and being celebrated. Like any president, a fuhrer, duce, or whatever can prance about as they please. Citizens can worship them if they like, and will if he is a great man. That's it. You aren't forced to worship the guy. That's it. And, it's not just the leader that does everything. There's a single party state with corporatist, specialized unions of workers. It's not a strong leader, but a strong state, because no one has to deal with the bullshit of party politics or democratic comprising.

>>184751
Freedom and morality.
An anarcho capitalist society is the only moral way to live.
The only justification for National Socialism is basically "the ends justify the means", which is fine temporarily, but in the long run not so much.

There are so many problems with authoritarian regimes. National Socialism worked because they had Hitler, but not everyone is Hitler.

>>184327
In america everyone is a nigger not just blacks.That is because corporatism has given the oligarchs a monopoly on media and they use that media to promote degenerate culture.If their was a free market oligarchs wouldnt be able to have a monopoly on culture and nigger culture would die.

>>184863
NatSocialism like all consequentialist ideas violates natural law and is therefsre immoral

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>>184893
But why do you think that blacks of all people are the most niggerish? You don't see whites putting out massive crime numbers despite being such a large portion of the population. "nigger culture" won't just die if we get rid of the media boogeyman, they've been niggers since we brought their asses here, and even during their most prosperous time (the 50's through 60's which was a segregated time) they still pushed out the most crime.

>>184834
kicking by culture is just an inefficient way to kick by race since it requires waiting for the people of those races to inevitably actually do their harm first. And don't forget most people of other races will protect even the scum of their race if they see it as a racial conflict.
>>184893
everything you say is the opposite of what is true.

>>184858
I also want to add that fascists have the same principles like that of the Cult of Supreme Beings thing that propped during the liberal beginnings.

>>184943
""""""White"""""" american males

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>>185008
oops

>>184952
One of the problems of judging by race is that you don't have a good excuse to get rid of the wiggers.
Your florida for example is full of "white" brazilians that act just like black people, and are just there because they got a lot of money by stealing from the government.

>>185022
Dealing with race up front doesn't prevent enforcing standards on your own people. Both are important and don't contradict each other at all

>>185022
That's why you push degeneracy as something that is wrong, with a strong authoritarian figure.

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>>183670
>a bunch of faggots join together and become a weapon

I think its very fitting.

>>185074
People now don't fall for the strong authoritarian figure meme anymore, but the basic idea of convincing people that the degeneracy is something wrong is still very possible.

All you have to do is point your blitzkrieg at hollywood and youtube instead of the government and bob's your uncle.

>>185050
They will corrode your thing little by little with the "good black examples", all the three of em.
Of course, you can make an "very well tested exception" for those three, and if they fuck up, well.

>>185199
For every one of those good blacks I can point out a thousand niggers. There's just no dealing with it, seperation is our greatest ally.

>>185199
But with no strong force to keep degeneracy as something to be avoided, it will just grow after being pushed down.

>>185233
You don't have idea on how many niggers fit in the shadow of a good black guy.
But this can be also solved with a black purge with a "really hard test to come back".

>>185249
If you convince people logically that degeneracy is a bad thing, you will have a strong force pushing it down.
You feel it every time you try to talk about nazism on a positive light, no matter how free the country is.

>>183864
That is not true at all. I don't believe in capitalism but I believe in American Capitalism and the constitution.

>>184943
They are more niggerish because slavery caused a domino effect of nigger culture that affects them to this day.The only way to get rid of the domino effect is by reducing the welfare state.The free market(natural eugenics) will improve them.

Proof its not genetic is that black immigrants from africa do better than american blacks

>>182213
Fuck off kike, a nationalist government with a mixed market economy is what is best for us. Libertarians only care about muh profits.

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>>185365
>Proof its not genetic is that black immigrants from africa do better than american blacks

You do realize these are about the top 1% of Africans? Not some middle class African or poor one, the absolute richest Africans who are already educated in universities. Even they are only on par with the poorest whites.
Very poor Whites are comparably intelligent to very wealthy blacks.
http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html


Black children raised in White households have similar IQs to black children in black households.
http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1977-07996-001

Genes for large brains, linked to high IQ, are common everywhere except Africa.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB115040765329081636

>>185359
Capitalism=means of production owned and controlled by private entities
Corporatism=means of production owned by private entities but controlled by the state
Socialism=Workers own the means of production

>>185365
you're reversing cause and effect. The blacks that immigrate to America are the few that were already successful. The vast majority of blacks do not have this potential. Natural Eugenics, allowing millions of blacks to starve to death, will lead to them being violent and needing to be dealt with.

>>185452
You're wrong about socialism. You are missing the government control over everything entering and leaving.
Owned by private entities is a good thing, THE PRIVATE ENTITY COULD BE YOU, moron. Everyone gets a shot if they want. Look at Trump, faggot.

>>185365
And if you believe that I hate blacks or minorites I don't. I just believe there is just too much natural conflict between races, and our differences are much too large for this to work out. I also don't want everybody to come together in some mono cultural, or hot pot of cultures like a lot of you are putting forth. I like japanese culture but I don't want their culture subdued by white culture. I like sombreros and mariachi bands but if you have these groups all come together you destroy their cultural roots, or if go multicultural the different cultures just create differences.

>>185578
>cultures just create *conflict

>>185495
After they violate the NAP i will support their physical removal but i wouldnt support it if they still havent violated it

>>184026
Again, It's not my boipussy I'm concerned about.

>>185578
Im a spic and i dont think your racist i just think your afraid of leaving your traditions and culture behind, and why do you think preserving your culture is important anyways?Preserving culture is a primitive way of thinking, creating a new advanced culture should be our goal.If i ever got control of the media i would focus on destroying all cultures based on race nationality or religion because these cultures are slowing progress.

Good night white pride
Good night nigger pride
Good night spic pride
Good night chink pride

>>185811
Why ignore the successes of your ancestors and nation? Why throw that out of the window in order to embrace some new bound to be shitty culture. If it ain't broken why fix it? What about white pride, black pride or any pride is bad? There's a bridge between pride and supremacism and you are definitely crossing it.

>>185901
Spic pride= christcuckery, worshiping cartel culture and getting drunk
Nigger pride= gangster culture
Chink pride = obsession with only money which leads to stress & suicide
White pride= western whites are more individualistic so i think it cant be defined
East europeans are usually drunken christcucks

>>186136
People don't exist in a vacuum, the past history and culture will always influence the present. It's important to recognize and account for it.

>>186136
You do realize Christianity is a large part of why Europe was so successful right? Being a nat soc isn't just about having pride. It's about doing the absolute best for your race and people. Something that libertarianism doesn't do, libertarianism often promotes greed and a focus on solely yourself Instead of wanting to help your nation you'd rather just sit in "muh property" and do nothing for your country.

>>186136
>>186136

From Hitler himself
“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency.
Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. ((((Marxism))) is anti-property; true socialism is not. ((((Marxism))) places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.”

>>186224
I agree christianity helped alot in europe but just because it was good in the past it doesnt mean its still good.Christianity is not necessary anymore most of the founding fathers werent christian, they were deist and the founded a nation with great values, and why do you think libertarians only care about money.I dont only care about money, i care about other people but i just believe giving people jobs, philantropy and promoting a better culture through private means is better than helping people through agression with a fascist state.

>>186297
I know what fascism is i said it in op,
fascism is a corporate system

>>186224
The quest for Liberty must be guided. Liberty isn't as much anarchy as the government being a necessary collectively accepted institution that can act against the wishes and freedom of individuals to ensure both a net increase in Liberty and the future of the system that allows Liberty to exist.
I blame Ayn Rand.
Of course this has the problem that it's ludicrously easy for the general public to want to maximize short term or individual gains at the cost of the future.

>>186391
Aggression wasn't even a mean for most fascist societies. You know the Hitler Youth? It was voluntary. No kids had to do it, but a lot did because it was encouraging. Sure, military service was compulsory, and will be along with other form of community service, but most helpful programs were voluntary.

>>186427
>>186391

You do know that the founding fathers were also fascist right? They were fascist before such a term was even used. You could even think of them as the original creators of fascism. They espoused the erasing of prior identity to be sumsumed into the newly created joint effort ad identity of all. The ideals they represented were the ideals of Classical Rome, which they had studied and admired. The opposed only the coronation of an emperor and only on that one principle alone. Much like Thomas Aquinas, not one of them considered Africans or other minorities human when they spoke of universal human rights, they never imagined that Europeans and Anglos would become minorities in their own nations. They never believed that Christendom would be dismantled with the very rules they set out to protect it. They fled Britain to escape the tyranny of a centralized private bank, any they felt that such a thing as love for ones own people and desire to protect and further the cause of your nation and your blood was so absurdly obvious and so deeply fundamental that it did not even deserve a comment. When they spoke of the brotherhood of man, it was of embracing a man from a city as a friend not some swarthy savage from another an alien continent.

>>186765
Werent the programs founded with taxation?

>>186781
Cultural beliefs dont define fascism, economic beliefs do.The founding fathers werent fascist, they believed in capitalism.

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>>186781

Many founding fathers were against christcuckery.

>>186806
It's taxation with representation. Not even the founding fathers were this autistic about taxes.

>>186848
>>186895
>>186923

John Adams:


>"The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.

Without religion, this world would be something not fit to be mentioned in polite company: I mean hell.

The Christian religion is, above all the religions that ever prevailed or existed in ancient or modern times, the religion of wisdom, virtue, equity and humanity."

>>185811
>i would focus on destroying all cultures based on race nationality or religion because these cultures are slowing progress

They're not slowing birthrates. Whatever "progress" you make, it doesn't matter if you're being replaced.

>>186923
>>186895
>>186848

Thomas Jefferson

>"The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend all to the happiness of man.63
The practice of morality being necessary for the well being of society, He [God] has taken care to impress its precepts so indelibly on our hearts that they shall not be effaced by the subtleties of our brain. We all agree in the obligation of the moral principles of Jesus and nowhere will they be found delivered in greater purity than in His discourses."

>"I am a Christian in the only sense in which He wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to His doctrines in preference to all others."

>"I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ."

>>186937
Prove the bible was inspired by god.
Pro tip you cant

>>186990
>>186947

messing up my greentexts shit.

>>187001
I'm not here to discuss the fundamentals of Christianity, hell I'm not even Christian. But I'm simply not blind to ignore how much of a impact it as had on western civilization.

>>187027
I dont deny certain aspects helped western civilization, im just saying humanity has evolved into a point in which its not necessary anymore

>>186923
>>186895
>>186848

George fucking Washington:

>"You do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of life, and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ. These will make you a greater and happier people than you are".

>"While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian".


>"The blessing and protection of Heaven are at all times necessary but especially so in times of public distress and danger. The General hopes and trusts that every officer and man will endeavor to live and act as becomes a Christian soldier, defending the dearest rights and liberties of his country".

>"I now make it my earnest prayer that God would… most graciously be pleased to dispose us all to do justice, to love mercy, and to demean ourselves with that charity, humility, and pacific temper of the mind which were the characteristics of the Divine Author of our blessed religion".

>>186947
Birthrates=/=progress

>>187094
And why is that so? It's a core part of our nations birth and western civilization in general. Too simply just forget about and push it away is nonsense.

>>186848
The founding fathers believed in a strong authoritarian power. Due to their recent seperation from Britain however made them paranoid of giving that power to one man who would be put to power not by the people.

>>187184
Not all of them, they were split between the federalist and the democratic republicans.
Washington was a federalist, and Jefferson was a democratic republican.

>>187211
Of course but to say that all of them also believed in a lack of any authority is abysmal.

>>187128
America was founded on property rights, not christcuckery.Many founding fathers believed christcuckery was harmful and they were deists instead, they just permited christcuckery because they believed in individual rights

>>187241
Really? Because I'm pretty sure the vast majority of them were Christian. Your one example means nothing to a whole page full of staunch christians.

https://wallbuilders.com/founding-fathers-jesus-christianity-bible/

>>182213
Fascism isn't right or left, but actually Radical Centrism. Very pragmatic in how it's supposed to be run, in that what doesn't work his discarded, and what does it kept. Fascism attempts to keep alive the more old world values while moving forward.

>>187269
What is it that filled the souls of many of America's founders with such passionate altruism that they were willing to risk everything they had, including their families, careers, and very lives, for an ideal? Was it their strong convictions in the teachings of Christianity and the Bible? Or was it something else?

DEISM

People like Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and Benjamin Franklin were avid readers of the great philosophers of the European Enlightenment. They treasured the ideas found in the works of such thinkers as Descartes, Voltaire, Bacon and Locke.

One of the cornerstone ideas of the Enlightenment was to give every idea and assumption the test of reason. When they applied reason to religion they found it necessary to strip it of revelation and they ended up with Deism. Deism is belief in God based on reason and nature. The differing alleged revelations of the various revealed religions are conspicuously absent from Deism. It is a natural religion as opposed to a revealed religion such as Christianity, Judaism, or Islam.

http://www.deism.com/deistamerica.htm

>>183038
>>182213

Exactly. You need to lurk more OP. Fascism isn't about having someone to tell you what to do, its about removing degeneracy and the things that hold society as a whole back.

>Classical liberalism led to the Jews wealth, which led to the Jews political influence, which led to discrimination protections an communism.

False. Classical liberalism was the root of a broad spectrum of political ideologies. If you look at more recent history, (((They)))) have pushed frankfurt school modern liberalism to assert control. the negative rights of classical liberalism are in direct contradiction with modern liberalism, which was largely shaped and manipulated by (((them))). Madison and other founding fathers were classical liberals, this country as founded on classical liberalism.

>>187341
>Deism is belief in God based on reason and nature

Yes and it's this same belief that gave them the beliefs that I previously refered too. They believed that minorites were not human when they were created human rights. They believed that god strictly constructed nature this way. This nation was founded as a WHITE NATION. If the founding fathers felt that whites would become a minority they would turn to a strong authoritarian force.

>>187459
http://www.npiamerica.org/research/category/what-the-founders-really-thought-about-race

>>187459
I know they prefered a white nation but thats not what i was talking about and i dont care because it was mostly for cultural reasons not racial reasons.Anyways my point was that most of them werent christcucks and that america waa founded on property rights not on christianity.

>>187459
Cultural reasons not racial
Benjamin franklin:
Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.

>>187125
Birthrates are how you become the majority. Survival comes first, before progress.

>>187873
Jews have lower birth rates but that doesnt keep them behind

>>187870
>>187782
I guess that's why 9 of the 11 first presidents owned slaves. Because of their "culture" not race. You do realize that race is not cultural, correct?

>>187919
Benjamin was an autist amongst the founding fathers, when it came to race. He solely believed that Italians were not white and so weren't Irish. Even noted by the others how crazy that sounded.


>>187919
Although race does lead to cultural differences.

>>187870
The problems with multiracialism were so obvious back then that they required no comment.

>>187898
Jews have an ethnostate where they can maintain a majority through violence.

Well I'm going to bed. 2 AM, I can't keep up anymore.
Just dumping some sources. Goodnight, hope you redpill yourself further.

Human intelligence up to 75% inheritible
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/12061787/Intelligence-genes-discovered-by-scientists.html


Human intelligence is highly heritable.
http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v16/n10/abs/mp201185a.html


Scientific consensus is that IQ tests are not racially biased.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000305


Very poor Whites are comparably intelligent to very wealthy blacks.
http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html


Privately, intelligence experts hold more hereditarian views than they express in public.
http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1994egalitarianfiction.pdf


Black children raised in White households have similar IQs to black children in black households.
http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1977-07996-001


The average African IQ is estimated at 79.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912003741


The average African-American IQ is 85, compared to the average White IQ of 100.
http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997mainstream.pdf


The white-black gap in SAT scores, a proxy for IQ, is increasing.
http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

>>182213
Jesus god damn chirst, go fucking jump off a building.

>>187919
Blacks had lower iqs due to cultural reasons so they were easier to enslave

Yup I know the human species has different races

>>187898
And as for Jews in the US, whites are still the majority. As soon as whites are the minority anyone who looks white is fucked. But Jews have an ethnostate to escape to.

>>187954
Race and culture is not genetically related im a spic and culturally i have nothing in common with other spics

If your a white nationalist and you want to perserve your race im not against, in a free market you guys can make segregated communities.What im actually against is a fascist state

>>188238
What about autonomous states which can advocate or not for fascist policies in a federation!?

>>188238
Of course you are, because then instead of keeping to ourselves we would be reclaiming North America as Greater Europe and it would be cleansed of non-whites regardless of cultural integration. That's called winning. You like competition. This is us competing.

>>188335
Sure as long as you guys arent expansionist.

>>188396
Expansionism was a big mistake. Mussolini should have waited until Italy was instrialized and Hitler should have waited for the bolsheviks to make their move instead of choosing a stab in the back tactic. Which just proves that expansion is a gamble I'm not betting on.

>>188367
Im a classical liberal spic and i dont hate whites, but if you guys want to ethnically cleanse america id be forced to ally with the commies.Why cant we just make a geo mutualist panarchist system and establish whatever goverments we want without war.If you guys force non white libertarians to ally with commies you guys will lose like in ww2 and well end up with international communism

>>188517
So you'd want a peaceful split between a white ethnostate and Ancapistan? Here's my prediction. Whites will move out of Ancapistan into the ethnostate, and you'll be left with a large non-white population that will ignore the libertarian values Ancapistan was founded on, establish socialism, become poor, and then scratch at the walls of the ethnostate.

There are not enough libertarian non-whites to maintain a state if white people choose to separate themselves. But by all means, if you can manage to carve out some territory, best of luck in the expirement.

>>188995
Easy i just import ancap brazilians into a mixed raced ancapistan