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From S8 sneak peak "No villain is irredeemable" - show

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From S8 sneak peak
"No villain is irredeemable" - show stuff at same panel
Sorry for my shitty phone
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>>30904554
but why
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>>30904554
Sombra return confirmed
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>Glim Glam is going to redeem bughorse and become a princess
WOW!
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>>30904554
IT'S HAPPENING!
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I don;t know what I was expecting.
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>>30904559
TOYS TOYS TOYS
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>>30904582
The shitstorm would probably rival Twilicorn.
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>Chrysalis gets redeemed
>Then Tirek
>Then Sombra
>Ponyland eternal peace for a billion years until end of time the end

Doomfist was right.
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Why.
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Prediction: Chrysalis will turn the Mane Six against each other/Starlight.
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This is it.

The Happening is upon us.

Repent, for the end times are nigh.

See you all September 23. Bring your waifu plushes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD8Q_USb1PU
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>>30904554
>"No villain is irredeemable"
Enjoy your waifu's future new form Bugfags
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>>30904697
HAHAHAHA
EAST SHIT HASBRO
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>>30904554
I expected her to come back
I'll make piece with her becoming rainbow shiet

But the way she made Starlight's photo
the way she looked at it

She's not gonna use it
and GlimGlam will save the day

this is what enrages me
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>>30904697
Might be cool
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So, let me guess. Redeeming villains is bad because you basement dwellers who hate the world around you won't be able to associate yourselves with redeemed villains, right?
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>>30904628
I wish the show itself could be redeemed from it's last 3 seasons.
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>>30904554
I miss the Elements of Harmony.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD8Q_USb1PU

S8 animatic
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>>30904697
I visibly smiled/10
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>>30904554
>No villain is irredeemable

Well, I think Sombra will be pretty hard to redeem considering that he's resting in pieces.
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>>30904729
yeah, that's why it's bad
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>>30904731
>S5 need to be redeemed
go to bed
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>>30904729
Nope, imagefag fella.

Redemption is bad because it removes a good source of conflict from the show, which could have been used to drive good stories and plotlines.

This is basically 1970's Tom and Jerry or that Simpsons episode where Itchy and Scratchy show became "Kid friendly" and became unwatchable shit.
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>>30904554
Glimmer will save Chrysalis in barely 20 minutes.

Now say it with me:
"Thank you Starlight Glimmer"
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I laughed audibly tbqh
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>>30904753
S05 had a good start but became shit nearing the end and I'm not talking about Starlight alone.
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>>30904742

They seem to be in the place from this image from the investor podcast a while back.

New castle, but whose?
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>>30904784
Who said it's a castle? Looks more like an Inn to me
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>>30904784
Maybe something from season 7 finale.
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>>30904554
If they actually pussify the last good villain this show has, this might be my breaking point. This might be when I stop watching the show.
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>>30904784
Starlight's
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>>30904784
Is that a GlimGlam stained glass behind best pony with wings?
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>>30904697
she seems oddly obsessed with RD's backside
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>>30904800
You know it's going to happen, Anon.
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>she don't took starlight glimmer hair

GLIM GLAM WILL SAVE THE DAY AGAIN
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What's her plan /mlp/? What does she need hair strands and photocopies for?
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>>30904805
THAT'S STARLIGHT GLIMMER GLASS WITH WINGS
GLIMMERCORN CONFIRMED
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>>30904798
I guess it could be something like an inn or resort but it looks pretty castle-y to me.
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>>30904822
It's Twilight in stained glass you pleb, stop getting excited over literally nothing
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>>30904822
>GLIMMERCORN CONFIRMED
What a surprise...
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>>30904828
Looks like the base of Canterlot Mountains.
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>>30904805
>>30904784

Not to mention the whole thing has Glimglam's color scheme.
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>>30904831
It's funny cause she literally is holier than thou
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>>30904828
Well, that's your opinion then.
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>>30904784
Look at window on the front.
Kinda matches Starlight's coat and it has wings.
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>>30904800
That's the point where I would atend the next convention just to shoot at as many staff members I could.

I wish I were joking.
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>>30904845
See >>30904831
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>>30904849
What if they redeem you?
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>>30904749
The comics redeemed him. It was a train wreck obviously though
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>I do enjoy having a few villains remain villainous and never change.
Jim Miller, 2013, "The Elements of Harmony" (The Official Guidebook)
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Why does Chrysalis need a picture of RDs ass?
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>>30904554
>No villain is irredeemable
No. Please, no. Don't do this.
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>>30904856
It was one of the more logical reformations in the entire franchise.
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>>30904853
I will redeem the staff before the cops arrive to kill me.
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>>30904784
Starlight will become an Alicorn in the S8 finale
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>Chrysalis wants to cum inside Rainbow Dash

POETRY.
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>>30904857
Wait, are you suggesting that Big Jim is the one that could save us from this terrible fate?
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>>30904869
We don't need pottery, we need good villains
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>>30904828
When's the bingo?
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>>30904857
Would someone kindly print that quote, tape it to a brick and throw it through Jim's bedroom window at midnight?
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>>30904857
It's Jim, what did you expected from him?
Compromise?
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>>30904615

No, it wouldn't. The fandom overall is a lot less fond of Starlight than they were Twilight as well as being half the size or smaller than it was at that point.
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>>30904554
Seems like she goes into this one solo, no hive replenishment.
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>>30904880
We need a good staff.
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>>30904896
They'd still be upset cause Starlight did a lot less in a lot less of time to "earn" princesshood. Beside, what would she be the princess of? "Just throw magic at it"?
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>>30904900
It's a well known fact that the pony fandom is stupidly rich and ready to throw money at anything.
We should crowdfund something to buy the rights to the show and give it back to Lauren.

Can't be that expensive given how it's on the decline.
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>>30904554
Keep her as a permanent villain, like Skeletor.
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>>30904911
The Princess of Forgiveness
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>>30904857
>more glimmer
>more meta
>more gay bugs
>and now chryssi
just cancel this shit already literally fairly odd parents
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>>30904911
The princes of Being Sorry But Abusing Her Magic And Not Giving A Fuck About Anyone Else.
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>>30904857

>Jim miller is our last hope

Haha, we're doomed
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>>30904554
Say goodbye to one of the last remnants from the Faust era
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>>30904914

Chrysalis- "MYEHH!!!"
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Panel summary, beware spoilers for both S7 and S8.

https://www.equestriadaily.com/2017/09/hascon-my-little-pony-season-7-8-panel.html#more

>>30904883
I usually start up the bingo creation when the first Discovery teaser/trailer arrives, which will most likely be in February/March.
Might already start a round for suggestions once S7 has finished airing.
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>>30904922
The staff has been definitely doing it's best to destroy anything that could remind the audience about Faust's era.
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Sea ponies confirmed for S8.
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>>30904554

>"No villain is irredeemable" - show stuff at same panel

This should be bait, neither in derpibooru or EQD mention this.
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>>30904697
>Starlight needs a picture too
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>>30904912
>give it back to Lauren
>actually wanting to turn MLP into another SJW pandering shitshow like SU or nuPPG
Fucking faustards man.
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>Starlight saves the day

SEASON 8 CONFIRMED GOOD
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>>30904912
>give it back to lauren
>within 2 episodes full on feminist propaganda
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>>30904935

Welp, the whole "the movie isn't canon" can be countered now.
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>>30904912
>r
She never owned the rights in the first place, its a Hasbro property for decades. Also I hope you can crowdfund at least a billion dollars cause thats the bare minimum for one hasbro's biggest moneymakers
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>>30904952
We already knew this since it was confirmed that Josh Hackber would be back again. He literally can't write anything else besides her precious pet saving the day.
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>>30904935

welp, rarity getting barbed will be canon. I can't wait for the future capper/rarity episodes
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>>30904922

>Faust era

You do realize that she had nothing to do at all with that finale and was very upset about the whole 3 alicorn thing, right?
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Compiled info so far, tell me if I missed something.

S8
26 episodes
Premiere animatic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD8Q_USb1PU

Josh Haber returns as co-editor
Mike Vogel returns as writer
2 Discord episodes

Sea pony called Silver Stream
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>>30904965
Stuff appearing in the show means nothing. See IDW comics.
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>>30904928
>"It isn't the mane thing about you" isn't a pure Rarity solo episode
Goddamnit. Why don't the do solo episodes anymore?
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>>30904939
>Chrysalis is literally /mlp/
>She'll be redeemed and become best buddies with Starlight
This is our future, a two parter where the writers complain about the fandom using the show as a mouthpiece.
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>>30904935
Makes sense. Gives more publicity to the movie and the shitty toys.

What I don't get is how that never actually occurred to me.

>>30904940
>>30904961
>Virtually veryone on the current staff, for a canadian TV show, are anti-Trump to the point where it's unbearably obnoxious.
>Hurrr muh faust said go see ghostbusters durr.
Kill yourself.
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>there are """people""" who don't want Glimmity Glammers to be a princess and redeem bugmom
LMAOIN @ UR LIFE FAMILADS
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>>30904922
Pretty much everything she has put into the show has been removed, forgotten or replaced. We'll probably NEVER actually see Starswirl appear either.
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>>30904983

The Vogalfag is going to be really upset at this news.
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>>30904991
If I didn't already do it for the S7 bingo I'd make the one for S8 Glim Glam & Friends themed again.
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I suspect I'll be screaming my lungs out in a nearby forest when all this plays out.
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>>30904983
>Movie confirmed canon
EQG fags BTFO with their non-canon garbage barbie movies
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I see Chryssi only takes important photos.
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>>30904993
>seeing a qt pone
>shitposting about pointless things instead of wanting to fuck that pone
What in the fuck happened to this board
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>>30904999
Just imagine a dream team of Starlight, Trixie, Chrysalis, Discord, Maud, and Thorax. The Mane 6 looks so bland compared to them.
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>>30904988
>this fucking damage control
the movie was always canon anyways
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>>30904828
>>30904784
>Twilight's Home for the Socially Retarded
It would actually be fitting for Twilight to open a friendship school
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>>30904784
Could it be Silver Stream's? She's a new seapony from the movie who will be a recurring character in S8
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>>30905025
If you want shitty self-insert porn, go to one of the countless generals devoted to that shit.
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>>30905003
If after all this shit he finally stops being a coward and attends a convention to punch Vogel in the face or some other retarded autistic shit, I'll be the happiest man on Earth.
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>>30905037
No it isn't, it's clearly starlights, it has the same color scheme and everything.
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>>30905043
Probably feels bad to be you.
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>>30904784
What if the weird changeling in the bottom left is reformed Chrysalis?

>>30904840
It's probably pink because pink toys sell well, not because of Starlight.
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>>30905044
>mentally retarded Romanian kid
>ever being able to go to any con ever
haha no
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>>30905063
>What if the weird changeling in the bottom left is reformed Chrysalis?

Oh fuck please no.
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>>30905063

>What if the weird changeling in the bottom left is reformed Chrysalis?

Well, her shell in her back look like a ladybug like the pony that she use to disguise. She would be reformed chrysalis
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>>30905063
>I-it only has starlights colors becuase girls like pink toys
Pathetic
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>>30904554
>>30904565

" From this we can conclude it is up to Starlight Glimmer to once again save the Mane6 from Chrysalis' revenge"

I'M LITERALLY FUCKING SHAKING RIGHT NOW WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
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>>30905081

Also she is wearing a tiara
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>>30905074
I WANT TO BELIEVE
Mentally retarded Romanian kid, I believe in you. Be the hero we need.
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>>30904784
>Glimmer will become an alicorn after doing literally fucking nothing
>The shiteating brony fags will praise this as the best thing to happen to the show
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>>30904925
But seriously, it would make sense and be awesome. I want to see Chrsalis raise up a new hive that contends against Thorax who is the new leader of the old hive in a changeling 'civil' war of sorts. Then as Chrysalis gets defeated, she is deemed as dangerous a villain as Tirek is and gets banished to Tartarus. Simply redeeming her is a massive fucking cop-out and I can see no future creativity coming from that.
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Did Twilight open a school?
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>>30904773
Foreshadowing to her new form?
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>>30905055
Yes it does right now. Because the board's gone to irredeemable shit this past year, everyone's so far up their own ass they can't even see their own autism anymore, so normal discussion is impossible, if you try to talk about anything you'll get showered with shitty memes and now even the show is turning to absolute bumfuck g3 shit.
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>>30904979
Yeah, the Cadance as an alicorn thing. Not Chrysalis existence.
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>>30905102
I just want her to go full Illidan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td0pUwrBWjc
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>>30905102
She should go to Tartarus, but still be recurring
Tirek should also come back and fuck shit up every now and then
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>>30905063
>What if the weird changeling in the bottom left is reformed Chrysalis?
I would laugh my ass off cause that's the shittiest possible design they could pick. That's a downgrade so far it's not even offensive anymore, but hilarious.
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>>30905108
>if you try to talk about anything you'll get showered with shitty memes
True. Because of this sometimes people are failing to see that Starlight is a decent character and Jim and Vogel did nothing wrong.
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>>30905125
It wouldn't make too much sense to reform her into a "Good Queen Chrysalis" since we already have Thorax. Either she gets reduced to a sickly form like that changeling, she becomes another species altogether, or she dies.
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>>30905143
>or she dies.
You mean
>banished to Equestria Girls
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>>30905166
If this is true, I'll be sad it's been spoiled. Nonetheless, that's a cute design.
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>>30905185
That's a shit design for Chrissy
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>>30905185
>that's a cute design
That's a real shitty design if that's supposed to be Chrysalis.
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>>30905185
>measly Changeling gets tall powerful design
>his brother gets a cool shorter design
>the Queen of the Changelings looks like all the other wimps
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>>30905185

>it's adorable

Yeah, just like Jay Fosgitt design
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>>30905185
Fucking shiteater
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>>30905189
>>30905185
>>30905203
Needs to be more like this.
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>>30905224
This. This would be fucking cute and sexy
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>>30904565
>>30904566
Not happening!
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>>30904736
It will return in the future.
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>>30905224
Or this.
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>>30905166
>instantly downvoted to oblivion on derpi
I want this theory to be true just to prove them wrong.
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>>30905235
>being this delusional
Why else would Glimmy get a castle?
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>>30905251
The salt would be glorious.
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>>30904831
>>30904868
Twilight Sparkle is going to resign as princess in S8.
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It would just befucking weird to have Chrysalis become a reformed queen when Thorax is already king.

I mean, she spawned all of them. She's the mother of every changeling.
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>>30905189
>>30905203
>>30905212
>>30905215
>if she returns to the hive she will obviously retire
>is already an old lady compared to Thorax and Pharynx
>gets a nice ladybug motif
I think it's good.
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>>30905252
The new castle will be Twilight's new home.
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>>30905283
Not to mention that kings and queens in cartoons are typically married. Obviously Chrysalis and Thorax wouldn't be married, so unless Chrysalis rules a different group of changelings, she won't be a queen.

>>30905286
If it doesn't belong to Starlight, Chrysalis, or a new character, it'll probably some sort of "friendship retreat"
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>>30905285
>is already an old lady compared to Thorax and Pharynx
Could you remove your headcanon plz?
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>>30904990
Remember when people thought that Rock Solid Friendship was going to be a Rarity+Maud episode?
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>>30905318
>Chrysalis is actually a hot 30yo single mom
She's literally the equivalent of the old witch in fairy tales.
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>>30904983

>Mike Vogel returns as writer

So S8 = S6, only with more political overtness? Wonderful.
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>>30905344
Really? She struck me as the evil queen, you know, because of the wedding and stuff.
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>>30905318
She's at least a thousand years old.
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>>30905367
I'm glad they canonized this in Tripple Threat.
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>>30905355
Now that I think about it, she's never been explicitly called the mother of Thorax and the rest of the hive. Maybe it is just my headcanon after all. The wedding was only part of the plan to take over Canterlot. It works for me both ways.
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>>30905394
They did?
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>>30905401
The thousand years old part I meant.
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>>30904805
>>30904845
how can it be Starlight's if its the same place from the premiere? she doesn't have wings in that
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>>30905395
I mean it just seemed logical to me that the entire hive is her spawn. And if >>30905395 is right, that should be the case. That still wouldn't mean that she's physiologically old however.
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Is it just me or have leaks and spoilers been getting more and more frequent?
It seems like there's something every other week. I can't remember the last time I was surprised by anything in the show.
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>>30905431
They obviously removed her wings in the animatic to not spoil the finale
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>>30904559
If you didn't see this as an endgame, you're a retard.

It even makes narrative sense.
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>>30905437
if >>30905367 is right*, quoted the wrong comment there.
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>>30905367
Is Starswirl EVER going to actually appear in the show? seems like his character has been pretty much forgotten in the show.
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>>30904922
Good. The faust era was the worst era.
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>>30905481
s7 finale
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>>30905442
Twilight will lose her wings in S8.
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>>30905451
fuck off hasdrone shiteater, go back to spamming your glimmer threads
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>>30905481
Considering he's now part of the "ancient Mane 6" that comprises all the ancient heroes that have been introduced in the past few episodes, it's very likely he'll finally show up in the finale.

Especially since the villain will likely be Cosmos, recycled from the original movie plot.
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>>30904990
I'm glad they don't. The characters tend to do so much better when paired with others. Parental Glidance would have been shit if it was a pure RD episode, same with perfect pear and AJ. Fluttershy leans in was a solo fluttershy episode and it was shit, so was honest apples.
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>>30904857
BIG JIM COMING IN TO SAVE THE DAY

YOU ALL LAUGHED AT HIM

is there any actual source on the No villain is irredeemable line? i feel its something EQG would of reported on
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>>30904979
The changelings and the whole battle in Canterlot thing was her idea to spice thngs up, so it wouldn't be just a boring wedding episode
And Cadence was made an alicorn after she left
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>>30905508
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>>30905507
>S6 finale
>Chrysalis is just an inch away from taking Starlight's hoof and redeeming herself
>actually expecting she won't reappear without an eventual redemption
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>>30905166
Too small to be her. Unless...
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>>30905439
I am surprised when we get decent episodes for a change.
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>>30905511
Rarity is one of the few characters who can effortlessly carry an episode on her own because she bounces wonderfully off everyone else. I wanted to see Tabitha go full ham for 20 minutes. I don't care for Pinkie and Cake Twins bullshit in a Rarity episode. Either give full attention to one plot or don't at all. Doing this kind of half-half bullshit will only result in a rushed mess that satisfies nobody. Fuck's sake.
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>>30905543
>steaming pile of shit episode
>turns changelings into cancerous garbage
>Chryssalis escapes this terrible fate
>maybe she will be a re-occurring villain now
I had hope anon, hope that something past S2 wasn't shit, especially after perfect pear, but I was foolish. time to GET HYPE for more glimmer
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So let me get this straight

>Glim gets her wings
>Chrissy is redeemed and becomes the 6th missing party member

So now they can officially replace the old mane 6 with the new cast one to one?

Is it finally happening?
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>gets DNA from the Mane 6
>is changeling broodmother

Please, let me have this.
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>>30905588
Perfect Pear was an episode written by the Lady Writers when the Lady Writers were story editors. The S8 premiere will be a shitfest written by Haber when Haber will be the story editor. The time for hope is over.
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>>30905508
No, the villain will be >>30905531
Pic related is Cosmos
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>>30905588
I feel pity for you, Anon. Pity for the fact that you are so obsessed by something you clearly hate. Just leave this board already.
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>>30904784
I cannot REE loud enough for this shit, not even irl.
Fucking Glimmer crashing this show, she should be out!
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>>30905621
That's Cosmos later on when he was changed from male to female.
First it was changed from a male to a female character, and then the entire Cosmos name and backstory were scrapped and turned into Tempest.
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>all this shitposting over nothing
"no villain is irredemable" is there even a legitimate source to this or is that just OP just trying and succeeding (to a pathetically effective degree) in riling you faggots up?
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>>30904928
That CMC episode is honestly the episode I have been hoping the CMC would get ever since they got their cutie marks. Its such a good idea to contrast Glimmers philosophy with the CMC. Will Glimmer be relevant?
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>>30905644
>op's fw
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>>30904784
>"The Friendship work your teachers do!"
From the animatic when Chryss is gushing about Twilight.

The place isn't a new castle, it's a school. Twilight is opening up a school for Friendship
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>>30905597
Yes...YES!
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>>30905531
High possibility that it's Cosmos. Maybe the form that was featured in the comic is just his elaborate edgy armor.
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>>30905689
It's not Cosmos, it's the Pony of Shadows.
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>>30905665
I'm not sure how I feel about this. This feels pretty similar to the CMCs marks, but with them, they have spent the entirety of the show going for this same goal. I am not sure how to feel about the mane 6 getting it with something as vague as friendship.
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>>30905636
*50 cents have been deposited in your account*
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>>30904697
>doing all that weird voodoo shit for every other pony
>except Starlight, who she underestimated before and even explicitly swore vengeance against
Seems a little too cliché that the villain learned literally nothing since their last defeat.
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>>30904697
That doesn't mean shes going to be redeemed, right???

Maybe she will lose and escape?
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>>30905508
Cosmos was the early working title for Tempest Shadow.
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>>30904697
>its another ANOTHER fucking Starlight two parter
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.....I don't get it.

Bugmom did recon on every one of the mane 6 and didn't give a shit about Glimmer. That makes no sense at all.
She'd already succeeded in subverting Ponyville last time and replaced those six.... it was GlimGlam who came in and wrecked all of her plans because she DIDN'T know enough about her or plan for her.

She promised to make Glimmer's life a living hell. She has an established bent against her. And she does Zero Recon? Glim is addressed 0% in her new plans?

What the fuck even?
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>>30905698
Who could easily be one and the same.
Male alicorn villain? Ancient evil that required Star Swirl and co. to stop? Old movie script was entirely reworked to no longer have to do with the lost city of the alicorns and Celestia & Luna's brother?
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>>30905719
She's not trying to defeat Glimmer. If it were that simple she could just vodoo Glimmer into killing herself.

She wants her alive and conscious for what's going to happen to all her friends.
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>>30905715
Should I have said: Aww Anon, that's too bad your headcanon didn't become reality. Enjoy the rest of your stay! Feel free to shitpost and share your objectively better opinions wherever you want, the people want to know them.
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>>30905662
>mfw someone else gets it
>mfw someone else who isn't retarded
>mfw someone else who doesn't fall for (You) bait
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>>30904805
I hope its Twilight
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>>30905719
Sounds perfectly accurate for a staff who made a 180º from the original series and turned the show into a cartoon for dumb, little girls.
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>>30905741
Maybe she'll have doppelgangers feed misinformation to Starlight to get her to turn evil.
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>>30905742
you forgot your masturboop picture champ
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>>30905507
Thorax proved that the way for Changelings to sustain themselves is to spread love, not feed off it.

Chrysalis lied to everyone to keep them subservient. Thorax broke them free of it.

Who's she got to lie to now? The only thing for her would be to live in denial or accept redemption and stop starving herself to perpetuate the now-dead lie.
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>>30905742
*50 bits have been deposited in your account*
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>>30905665
check it out, the well thought out and reasonable answer doesn't get any (you)s like the doomposting Starlicorn castle one does.
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>>30905719
I think that the episode will be exactly like EqD predicted, "it is up to Starlight Glimmer to once again save the Mane6 from Chrysalis' revenge." But the truth is, Chrysalis ignoring Starlight sounds way too stupid even for Haber.

Does anyone think that maybe they didn't fuck up for once, and all the setup leads to something that would gave a more important role to the mane 6 in the premiere? Knowing the current writers, I literally can't imagine any possible scenario where they were more important than Starlight, but maybe there is something I didn't think about. Any ideas that could save the premiere from being utter shit?
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>>30905728
Starlight is Jim's OC, what did you expect? Of course he ll force it everywhere
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I'm legitimately confused, how is anyone getting Chrysalis will be redeemed from this? is there no chance of getting a repeat of S6 finale, she does villain stuff, gets beaten, escapes?
>inb4 not expecting a redemption
we expected redemption for her during the S2 finale, we expected it during the S6 finale, who's to say it won't happen again?
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>>30905782
>who's to say it won't happen again?
Retards, that's who.
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>>30905758
I prefer Strawberryposting
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>>30905777
Y-your trips can get (You)'s though
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>>30905752
>show that's been about friendship since day 1
>only just recently became one for little girls
admittedly it has been smart pretty often but it's been a dumb cartoon just as often
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>>30905665
And Twilight will destroy her own castle and start argue with the three princesses for reason why she become a princess in S8.
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>>30905782
It's hard to believe that she's going to evade capture one again, anon. Queen Chrysalis is literally the oldest villain in the show that is still a threat. Her days are numbered.
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>>30905762
yeah but new changelings wouldn't know that would they, and who would they believe their mom or some queer dear who claims to be them when he resembles nothing close to them?
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>>30905751
It is Twilight, anon. It's her new home for S8.
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>>30905665
>>30904784
Yeah, it being Twilight's Friendship School makes sense.

Are the Mane 6 "teachers" then? They all have jobs so.
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>>30905779
>Any ideas that could save the premiere from being utter shit?
not letting Haber or Vogel touch it would be a good start
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>>30905119
I fucking wish.
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>>30905833
I really don't get why they would make the mane 6 teachers when the CMC already have that role in the show.
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>>30905762
>>30905814
Doesn't Thorax mention a group of renegade changelings unwilling to transform in Triple Threat?
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>>30905810
and she's probably the one who's poses the biggest threat as she could literally replace half the population of the whole country with the right amount of planning and patience, it's actually really fucking easy to imagine her being able to consistently escape capture
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>>30905844
That's about Cutie Marks and their purpose, not about Twilight's friendship lessons.
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>>30905814
Catch me up, are there other Changelings out there?

Introducing a second brood is just circling the drain. It would just draw things out to no useful end to Chrysalis's characterization.
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>>30905845
That was resolved behind the scenes. Pharynx was the last one left in To Change A Changeling.
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>>30905665
>school for Friendship
>Let's institutionalize emotional interaction and turn something fluid into a curriculum
I wonder if they'll teach gender studies too.
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>>30905845

Yeah, but he mention that he convince to change all the changeling except his brother in the previous week episode
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>>30905810
>Her days are numbered
This.

Glimmy will defeat (redeem) her and you're gonna like it
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>>30905781
>Starlight is Jim's OC
>being this misinformed
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>>30905855
I mean they already have characters in the teacher role and unlike the mane 6, the CMC were built up to that role for quite some time. I would hate to see twilight making the mane 6 teachers of their elements despite those elements not being that relevant for several seasons.
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>>30905851
Of course, anon, but we all know that Starlight Glimmer is going to save the day in the end just like in the Season 6 finale. Can't stop the GlimGlam!
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>>30905845
By "To Change a Changeling", he mentioned that they had all reformed except for Pharynx.

So, yes, but they addressed that in the show too.
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>>30905799
Season 01 and 02 managed to be funnier and more imaginative, even if they had a lower age rating, were way less ambitious and used clunky flash assets.
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>>30905863
There's only so many ways that people interact with each other and generally you can break that down. It's like how there's really scientifically one or two ways to actually learn something, "different learners" do not exist.
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>>30905873
>inb4 S8 has a timeskip and Twilight's "teachers" are adult CMC

Claire really can't keep doing Sweetie Belle's voice if they won't make them grow up, that was really apparent in Campfire Tails.
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>>30905665

>school for Friendship
>equestria need a school to learn about friendship

Equestria is really fucked up
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>>30905086
its not that i have anything against you in particular, its just that i find your autism amusing.
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>>30905892
I wouldn't be surprised if that happened, season 7 has really been emphasizing that the CMC have been maturing. Scootaloo even referred to her childhood in past tense and the CMC are bigger now than they were in previous seasons.
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>>30905665
Something about Twilight treating friendship like this just feels off.

Can't put my finger on it, but something wrong is certainly there.
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>>30905910
How can you actually WANT the show to die just for the sake of laughing at the people who care about it?
You're scum
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>>30905895
more like twilight is trying to remain relevant. This reminds me of Pokemon sun and moon.
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>>30905872
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>>30905689
Damn. Such a shame to waste a good design like the Storm King one.
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>>30905912
They're also at a point where a timeskip would make sense, as all the individual Mane 6 arcs have been wrapped up.
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>>30905916
Monetizing/trivializing friendship as a subject of study that can simply be taught when it tends to vary wildly beyond some very core concepts between individuals or entire societies?
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>>30905922
if it works for Trumptards...

anyway its just a cartoon.
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>>30905924
>implying they weren't laughing at people sounding like their favourite cartoon characters
wow it's like you don't know kids have the attention spans of goldfish
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>"There is no revenge you could ever conceive of that will come close to what I will exact upon you one day, Starlight Glimmer!"
>Does not give one shit about her when she sees her again

Also, where was Spike?
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>>30904857
>Jim doesn't want to make all villains savable.
>Goes on to oversee turning the changelings into hideous pansy fruits.
>Also overseeing Chrysalis going the same way.
Maybe someone outwith the show is micromanaging their scripts.
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>>30905978
>expecting the team to be consistent
at this point, they're ready to just end the show.
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>>30905978
>>30905983
>>30905992
we've always got G5 right Anons?
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>>30906001
more like Gen 4.5 with starlight at the forefront.
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>>30905978
yes, she should immediately blow her cover. Just walk in there and kill her.

retard
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>>30906001
This is G5 Anon, ever since we got nu-Glim it has been G5
Well, more like G4,5 but you got my point
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>>30906001
I feel they'll go the route of the wooden ship paradox for getting into G5.
We've already lost the logo, main character, and her home; among many other things.
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>>30905992
Didn't they hint S8 might be the last one?
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>>30906022
Considering how dumb ponies are when it comes to dealing with spur of the moment threats, and never making any preparations for changelings since S2;s ACW, it could actually work.
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>>30906022
>Kill Glim
>Chryssi dies becaus of it
Best timeline
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>>30906018
>>30906024
Gen 4.5 mind
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>>30905978
How did you expect her to act? Her negligence was out of utter contempt, it's the worst she could have done without coming over as suspicously malicious. In any case it only hit Starlight harder because she'll take it personally as "never truly being one of them". For what kind of issue was she taking photos anyway?
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>Season 7 finale is looking to be a classic Twilight finale
>chrysalis plots her revenge around Starlight Glimmer, the one that took everything from her

i see no problem desu
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>>30906036
>And Discord will turn back to bad guy and be killed by Twilight
>And Twilight resigned as Princess and her castle and her school will be close forever.
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>school of friendship

this is fucking awful.
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>>30906048
>plots her revenge around Starlight Glimmer
>doesn't give a shit about starlight during the animatic and cackles about the mane 6.
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>>30906048
>a classic Twilight finale
>Not a mane6 one.
We don't need another shitty episode like Twilight's kingdom.
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>>30906038
the theory that makes the most sense to me is that the building is a school of friendship Twilight opens. Would make sense for a reporter to come in and take photos documenting it. its why Chrysalis said something about Twilight's teachers.
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>>30906075
it seemed inevitable. next there well be a town of friendship
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>>30906082
it could be either

https://www.equestriadaily.com/2017/07/discordand-harmony-and-perfect-pear.html

>Twilight Sparkle battles the Pony of Shadows
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>>30906092
>It ends with glimmer fighting twilight about her brain washing "friendship" city
>a reversal of what happened with her

I know the show is too dumb to pull something like that but it would be epic.
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>>30906075
but it makes perfect sense. hell, its what should of happened in season instead of twilicorn
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>>30904742
>>30904784
>>30904828
>document the friendship work your TEACHERS do
Twilight is starting her own school for friendship. Those new characters are probably staff.
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>>30906075
It worked for the CMC characters who the writers actually spent time building up their understanding of cutie marks and showing us that they a great disposition for teaching others. I just don't see how ANY of the mane 5 are supposed to be good teachers bar maybe fluttershy, rainbow dash hates anything to do with school, AJ is too reliant on "muh tradition," rarara is completely oblivious to the obvious, pinkie pie is too randumb to teach (and I am not sure how teaching the element of laughter would even work). I feel like this is either going to turn the mane 6 into mary sues, ignoring all of their weaknesses, or it will be a cringefest bringing out the worst of each of the mane 5s episodes into one big mess.
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>>30904917
>meanwhile adventure time will end in 2017
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>>30906087
That would make sense. That would also mean that the school of friendship will be introduced in the S7 finale. I'm generally optimistic for the future of MLP but a school of friendship sounds just retarded. For whom is that school made? Foals? They already attend regular school. Adults? That's just stupid. My guess is that it's just a glorified therapy institute.
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>>30906106
Yeah, and them doing it about 5 seasons too late is fucking stupid.
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>>30906125
>glorified therapy insitute
They did that a lot better with the CMC. It's going to either be for foals or adults.
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>>30906113
by all means, make assumptions based on the latest load you pulled out of your ass.
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>>30906138
How do you see a school of friendship working besides the options I mentioned? Retreading what CMC episodes did better?
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>>30906130
>the princess of friendship finds more ways to spread her message

how dumb
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>>30906137
Not to mention that, if all we say here is actually going to happen the way we think it is, the problems will be extremely mundane. In seasons 5-6-7 they travelled the entire world for interesting conflicts.
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glimmercorn is going to be the series finale, prove me wrong.
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>>30906170
Nope, Twilicorn will end in the series finale because S8 is the final season.
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>>30906113
>>30906155
Spike teaching a lot of the classes, or Twilight.
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>>30906168
The school decision really baffles me. The CMC were limited to ponyville because they were kids and that is part of the reason why having them teach people how to get cutie marks was such a good idea.

I don't get why they would do that with the mane 6, characters who can go on adventures any where.
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>>30906181
The spoilers already revealed that there were more than one teachers besides twilight.
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>>30904554
She is just pissed that her ways were wrong and bitched out because of that. As soon as she accept that this is how she should have done she will become redeemed. I like this.
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>>30905863
Maybe it'll be like an open monastery kind of thing, where people are free to come and go at any time as they please.
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>>30904917
>this show has more episodes than FOP
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where does the funding for the school come from? Are the teachers just like scruffy, doing it for free?
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>>30906155
any other way.

the above just focuses on the worst possible way because people on this board love being pessimistic.

i dont see how AJ's traditions should get in the way. There's nothing that says RD won't be a good practical teacher, she just doesn't like Tilight's style of teaching. Pinkie and Rarity can teach by just doing the same stuff they do daily; make your friends smile by doing random shit and make them happy by giving something you made for them. Also, where does Rarity "misses the obvious" so much that its a character trait? Flutters can also teach practically rather than standing infront of a class.

There's plenty of ways to portray it if you use your imagination and not being the kind of pessimistic asshole that just shits on everything.
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>>30906243
Twilight wants to build a school and have Rarity pay for it.
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>>30906032
source? legitimately interested here, if they made it after the movie aired I wouldn't be surprised but since it's before it makes me think they're gearing up to completely revamp the series with a new artstyle and probably a different approach to the episodes, and all of next season will just be a build up to it
why would they do this? and why am I excited at the idea
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>>30906208
kind of like most of /mlp/
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>>30906255
>AJ has to run a whole farm with her brother/granny when AB's out doing CMC shit
>Rarity owns 3 businesses
>Dash has Wonderbolt shows/Training to deal with

I mean, there's always little moments between their usual day to day activities where they'll have free time, but to try to establish a curriculum with already very busy ponies does sound problematic.

That's before any map/world saving calls are ushered, too.
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>>30906265
i think it's just wishful thinking on anon's part. why end the series so soon after the movie? we got at least 2 seasons after the 8th.
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>>30906077
>implying she wasn't trying to bash Starlight's ego
>implying her plan isn't to have the "mane 6" bash her ego even further
>implying her plan isn't to make Starlight feel rejected and worthless
>implying her plan isn't to make Starlight suffer until she turns into an irredeemable villain
>implying her plan isn't to have ponies like Trixie and Maud reject her now that she's a villain again
>implying her plan isn't to have her killed Sombra style by the real mane 6
it's like you don't think everything she does hasn't been methodically been planned out
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>>30906279
dude, its a cartoon. lighten up.
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>>30906296
>it's like you don't think everything she does hasn't been methodically been planned out
yeah, methodically, just like the first two times she invaded equestria, amirite.
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Once again /mlp/ is missing the point. Who is going to run Twilight's School for Gifted? Glimmer. Where is this building located? Nowhere.
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>>30906297
>muh it's just a cartoon meme
If it was any other cartoon that comes and goes for 2 seasons, your meme might hold some water.

>just a cartoon
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>>30906208
>he likes characters that give up everything that made them unique to become one of the flock
faggot's are common, faggot's as retarded as you though, are rare
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>>30906296
the first 3 points make sense and i can see being what they are doing but the last 3 are definitely too much for the show, they aren't gonna make an arc out of it, as cool as that sounds.
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>>30906311
I can see Glimmer heading it, while twilight still does her "royal duties"
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>>30905009
>that bingo chart
you're supposed to fill out a row not black the whole sheet
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>>30906255
I like the later seasons more than the earlier ones, I'd say I am usually pretty optimistic about the show, but I just don't see how this concept works in a way that hasn't been done by the CMC already.

Honest Apple made it pretty clear that AJ's traditions blind her to any situation that doesn't directly involve them. She would be way too rigid to be a good teacher and there really hasn't been any sign that she is interested in helping others learn unless it involves her family.

The problem with RD is that there really isn't a practical way to teach friendship without invoking the methods twilight uses. You can't just coach someone on how to be friends as it is happening, as that would ruin the entire thing.

>Also, where does Rarity "misses the obvious" so much that its a character trait?
>That time when Sweetie Belle asks Rarara to only slightly fix up the dresses and she remakes them entirely instead
>That time after rarara learned SB hates being overshadowed by her that instead of listening to her when she wants to make a traditional cart, rarara makes the best creative cart she could ignoring SB entirely
>That time when SB makes it abundantly clear she is no longer interested in the activity rarara claims she is interested in, rarara still insists that SB is and doesn't even understand this after SB explicitly snaps at her

And these are only considering the times that sweetie belle was involved. It turns out its nearly every single time.

Pinkie pie would be too randumb to teach people how to make stable friendships.

Fluttershy could work, but one out of five isn't a good sign.

These also don't consider the other possibility of the writers completely ignoring the mane 5s flaws and making them perfect teachers.
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>>30906318
>faggot's
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>>30906311
Who gives a shit if Glimmer runs it. as long as she isn't an alicorn, student becomes teacher, full circle.

her being a teacher in the school makes more sense and also is a better path than becoming an alicorn.
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>>30906325
But, Twilight will no longer do to her duties because she rather be with her friends than doing her royal duties with the three princesses in S8.
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>>30906337
True, but I personally would have wanted Glimglam to be shipped off to Canterlot to do crazy magic things with Sunburst. Oh well. You can't always get what you want.
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>>30906067
You will loose your legs and stop posting by S8.
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>>30906001
Is mom going to be doing G5?
No?

Then there won't be anything really new.
Fuck her political views, she makes some damn good cartoons.
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>>30906311
>"Twilight, what kind of class room needs those big ol' vents?"
>"Hey, why'd you lock the door? W-WHY DOES YOUR DOOR HAVE A VIEWING PORT ON THE OUTSIDE?!"
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>>30906348
Glimmer is a part of the show now, that has to be accepted. her taking duties in the school sounds like a great path for her. what matters is that she isn't gonna become an alicorn like everyones been doomposting about the last 2 years
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>>30906346
she still has duties. if you watched the show, you might have noticed.
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>>30906311
why would Starlight run Twilight's school? Twilight doesn't run Celestia's school
>the movie and S8 will be the end of MLP:FiM
>Twilight will become like Celestia only rather than being in politics and making peace with other nations she runs small things like the friendships in Equestria
>Glimmer will be left to do whatever
>a year or two from now a new MLP series will start, being more adventure focused with overall more mature themes
>Vogel and Haber will be left behind as a new team is made for the new show
>all the old characters will be left behind, with new ponies in a new world, with equally fuckable pony pussys taking centre stage
the ride hasn't even begun
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>>30906350
Shut up! Hasbro will lose more money after the movie and will go the hell!
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>>30906305
>only loses by a deus ex both times
Yes. She was very methodical and would have won.
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>>30906357
>Glimmer is a part of the show now, that has to be accepted
Not entirely sure what you mean here, but in the same capacity, the Princesses are also part of the show and not necessarily with any lesser roles, despite less screen time. I feel the same should be done to glim. Away from the Mane 6 but still fulfilling a major and important role within the show at large.
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AHAHAHA. They restricted recording at the movie panel. No new footage for us. Nobody had the balls to record it. It's like Hasbro is afraid of people seeing more from the movie or something?
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>>30906361
She doesn't act like royalty because it's NOT her destiny, it's ruins her life!

>>30906366
Twilight will NOT act like Princess Celestia, she wants to be like Starswirl the Bearded NOT being a princess!
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Can't wait until a new stupid OC is introduced for no fucking reason and starts stealing Starlight's spotlight, like Starlight did with the mane 6. It's gonna be great.
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>>30906399
can such autism exist?
>She doesn't act like royalty because it's NOT her destiny, it's ruins her life!
care to cite some evidence?

>she wants to be like Starswirl the Bearded
she looks up to starswirl's legacy and what he has accomplished, at best.
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>>30906399
Oh, you wish. But we're 3 seasons too late
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>>30906368
Go back to playing with your toy trains you dumb manchild.
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>>30906311
This actually sounds like a plausible idea. Starlight needs to leave Twilight's castle at some point as they mentioned in Celestial Advice. Her taking up residence at the school and becoming a teacher would make sense for her character progression.
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>>30906399
>She wants to be like Starswirl the Bearded NOT being a princess
Hasbro killed that Twilight. The fake in her place wants to be a perfect pretty Princess.
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>>30906399
Why mentally ill people are allowed to use computer?
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>>30906416
One, she's just her mother, Twilight Velvet from G1.

And two, she's like Harry Potter and Starswirl is Albus Dumbledore.
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>school
>read "castle"
All this means is that when Glim becomes an alicorn it won't happen until the end of S8.
After Flurry Heart the introduction of another alicorn wouldn't even be a big deal. She could just go on teaching at friendship school or whatever. It's not like Twilight really does anything more significant.
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>>30906368
NO! The Movie will be a success and Discord will save the day in the Season 7 finale! Also Twilight's wings are NOT racist!
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>>30906399
>she wants to be like Starswirl the Bearded NOT being a princess!
they haven't mentioned Starswirl in years, it isn't happening
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>>30906445
Like Vince McMahon, the chairman of the WWE said, "Hasbro has no chance in hell!"
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>>30906352
TV shows are a collaborative effort. It takes a village and all that. Lauren is only as good as her team.
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>>30906439
>One, she's just her mother, Twilight Velvet from G1.

We don't even know if Velvet is her name. she was credited as Mrs.Sparkle. Even then, Generation 1 and 4 have nothing the same apart from some character names being or sounding alike.
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>>30906399
>she wants to be like Starswirl the Bearded NOT being a princess!
Blame Hasbro for that. They made her an alicorn just so they could sell more toys. They don't give a shit about good story telling, They just care about making their profits/pockets full.
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>>30906457
Kys yourself thomasfag.
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>>30906439
>And two, she's like Harry Potter and Starswirl is Albus Dumbledore.

The aspie is strong in this one.
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>>30906458
And a team's only as good as the vision behind it.

The fact is if you went back to 2010 and took the current team of writers and gave them G3 but no Lauren, they'd just do more G3 without putting any wonder or innovation into it.

Some people create worlds, and some people just keep them alive.
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>>30906332
why would RD have to invoke the same methods twilight uses? just because you cant see any other way doesnt mean there isn't some way. i just suggested some, but you keep going back to your same arguments. you're not even willing to allow AJ and Rarity and growth despite the fact the episodes you mentioned specifically addressed those issues and how they resolved them.

Rarity teaches to give freely from the heart, AJ to be honest, RD to be loyal, Pinkie to make others smile--nothing about how to form "stable friendships" even though it is this very nature that formed friendships with other ponies, yaks and griffons on different episodes.

I suppose there's the possibility the writers will fuck it up, but then again they could not.
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>>30906384
what do you imply? Starlight should become a princess?
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>>30906478
Go suck Lauren's dick somewhere else. She isn't a Messiah of storytelling and the best seasons came after her.
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>>30906369
those were not deus ex machina saves by any stretch of the imagination.
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>>30906497
That's your opinion, and it's not refuting my point in any way, shape or form.

She sure as fuck isn't perfect, but she's the reason all of this happened, so shut your whore mouth.
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>>30906495
she will, at the end of the series. Ember hit the nail on the head when comparing the two. S3 was meant to be the series finale, but since they couldn't take it back, they need another alicorn to end things on.
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>>30906509
>citing vectors that are never going to be used.
at this point, EqG is more canon than that picture.
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>>30905978
The staff doesn't care about Spike, ever. If there's a timeskip, I bet he'll be the same as now.
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>>30906495
No. Oh God no. Just an important ROLE in the show, which doesn't necessarily imply or suggest princess/alicorn status. There are still important roles to fulfill that don't require a spamming of alicorn creation. If a decision should ever come to add yet another alicorn to the show, Glimmer should NOT be that decision.
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I wish the show would be willing to introduce new elements.
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>>30906510
>they need another alicorn to end things on.
why?
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>>30906476
>look guys I'm /pol/ am I cool yet?
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>>30906478
>Some people create worlds, and some people just keep them alive.
Honestly This.
Lauren was pretty much the Backbone for what the show was going for, and what stories/ character arcs she wanted to accomplish. After she left, There was no concrete vision anymore, The writers and staff basically just went with whatever hasbro wanted them to do with no sort of compromise, And the show has deteriorated in quality because of that.
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>>30906510
Twilicorn wasn't a DHX decision, it was mandate from Hasbro to make toys
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>>30906536
same reason they wanted to end it on Twilicorn: to go out with as big of a bang as possible. How do you top a pony getting crowned as royalty?
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>>30906508
You made no point. You stated your opinion as if it were fact without knowing any of the inner workings that went on behind the scenes during the shows development. Lauren had Rob, Mitch, Amy, Meghan and a whole animation team behind her giving their creative input. Every good idea from S1-2 was not Lauren's and the fact that you put her on such a pedestal is nothing short of sad.
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>>30906553
I probably could.
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>>30906489
>why would RD have to invoke the same methods twilight uses? just because you cant see any other way doesnt mean there isn't some way
You never suggested any, so what other ways are there that are reasonable methods. Every single way involves using at least a significant portion of twilight's methods. The only way I could think of wouldn't just be retreading twilight's friendship letters.

The problem is AJ/Rarara don't learn from those episodes, they have episodes about not letting tradition/being oblivious to others and then in a few episodes, they do the exact same thing again. You can't just go from someone just learning not to be clueless to fully qualified to teach.

Your other suggestion would turn the mane 5 into mary sues because it would be ignoring their character flaws entirely (those that would realistically impede them from being good teachers) in favor of forwarding the plot. I don't see most of the mane 5 having the communication skills needed to convey those messages.
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>>30906551
>it was mandate from Hasbro to make toys
Gee, it's almost like that's what i was getting at. To push product, like its always done.
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>>30906297
>Lets discard the dreams and livlihoods of these ponies so that Twilight/Starlight can introduce a new "overarching plot"

Fuck off.
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>>30906553
>How do you top a pony getting crowned as royalty?
There are plenty of things if you are creative enough. The question remains, though, will they be creative enough?
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>>30906553
The CMC getting their cutie marks was a bigger bang than twilicorn was or what glimmercorn would be.
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>>30906575
Absolutely not.
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>>30906505
>deus ex machina: a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the inspired and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability or object. Its function can be to resolve an otherwise irresolvable plot situation, to surprise the audience, to bring the tale to a happy ending, or act as a comedic device.

Both Cadance giving Shining Armor a love boost and Thorax getting a new form came out of nowhere. I think they qualify.
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>>30905762
>Chrysalis lied to everyone to keep them subservient
[citation needed]
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>>30906388
It's out in a month anyway and all the story points have been spoilered by the books, so why would you need anything new?
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>>30906591
You don't know that for certain. I will hold out hope until the bitter, tear induced, teeth gnashing end.
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Please read. Here's the basic summary.

Chrysalis is taking their photos so she can show her new hive who to disguise themselves as. Her plan is to spread mallice across Equestria fooling ponies everywhere in to thinking the Mane Six are evil-doers. Starlight is going to save the day since Starlight isn't known or liked by the general population anyway. The Mane Six have to work on rebuilding things whilst the other alicorns and characters of important note are absent aside from Discord who plays a very minor role in things.
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>>30906575
creativity is meaningless when it doesn't sell. Plus it gives them an excuse to pull a stunt like they did with Twilicorn

>>30906582
I like how you claim Glimmercorn wouldn't be as big as the CMC's marks when Glimmercorn hasn't happened yet.
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>>30906601
The show has failed to introduce any creative elements for the past 4 years, I really don't think that is going to change.
With no season 7 two parter and the season 8 one repeating plot points found in "To Where and Back Again" I say that creativity is gone in this show.
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>>30906619
This.
It's the safest bet they can go with as even having Chrysalis on-screen is an easy way to stroke the fans regardless of context. But it's also incredibly boring and one-note.
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>>30906625
>with no season 7 two parter
finale

> and the season 8 one repeating plot points found in "To Where and Back Again" I say that creativity is gone in this show.

thats a big assumption to make on a 60 second clip
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>>30906619
guessing she'd want revenge in a way that says 'If I can't feast on the love of ponies then I shall destroy it entirely so no one can know of it!'
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>>30906619
I honestly dont understand how this could remotely work when there should be GREAT awareness of changeling activity after the S2/S6 finale. They should be the prime suspect of such sabotage things after all that shit.

Do the royals NOT inform ponies of events like both invasions or some shit?
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>>30906450
Mentioned in Celestial Advice and foreshadowed to be in the finale. Try again.
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>>30906620
I actually would like to see Starlight Glimmer become an alicorn/get wings if it is handled in a creative way. I sure as hell did it.
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I'm disappointed. Ever since the end of S2 I had hope that they would have used Chrysalis/Changelings as episodic villains, shapeshifting into other ponies to ruin friendship, breed mistrust, etc. that needed to be solved.
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>>30906619
That doesn't explain the hairs. And besides, Chrysalis knows what the Main 6 look like, so she can just transform into them to show the new hive what to transform into.
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>>30906637
Why should I assume that the show is going to do something wildly creative when it is repeating so many plot points?
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>>30906658
you expect creativity when the show openly acknowledges the demographic's age? you're setting yourself up for failure, anon.
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>>30906651
>Fame and Misfortune
I don't think it matters.
The general population are fucking dogshit stupid.
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My Glimmy singlehoofedly saved the Changeling race.
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>>30906620
We are already aware of the possibility of glimmercorn, plus twilicorn already happened. With the CMC, no one saw what their cutie marks would be coming, where glimmercorn is an obvious end result (her getting wings and becoming royalty). It is pretty unlikely that it will be a bigger bang.
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>>30906673
Uhh, what? Why would the age demographic have anything to do with creativity?
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>>30906667
It's a story-telling trick. A means to set-up things.
Assume you didn't watch season two like many of the target demographic of today.
Remember, the kids back then during Season 2 now are likely 17+ years old by now and don't even watch the show anymore.
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>>30906660
All I ever wanted was The Elements of Discord.
But with Discord redeemed that went out the window.

Back during S2 nearly all the fanon about him painted him as the big bad of the FiM universe, Discord vs Harmony. then he just became Q.
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>>30906698
You dont have to expend a lot of effort to keep the attention span of a goldfish occupied.
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>>30906619
it's sad knowing just how likely this is
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>>30906620
>I like how you claim Glimmercorn wouldn't be as big as the CMC's marks when Glimmercorn hasn't happened yet.
literally nothing will top the CMC getting their cutie marks, especially not Glimmercorn, because unlike Glimmercorn there was build up to it and it was well know that it was a highly anticipated and desired occurrence
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>>30906709
Yeah, but the best children's franchises do.
Like the franchises that I take most of my inspiration from.
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>>30906667
>doesn't explain the hairs
fuck if I know
perhaps it's some One For All shit and she and/or her new hive have to consume a hair of each of the mane six to obtain their DNA or some shit
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>>30906619
>Poochie the OP unicorn saves the day
>Again
Dang I can't wait
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>>30906658
>If it is handled in a creative way
Such as?

I can only think of one way it could work.
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>>30906705
What does that to do with the hairs, or were you talking about my contrived but simple way to copy the Main 6? To be fair I do think that even the writers may have not thought of this trick.
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>>30905166
PLEASE NO
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>>30906759
And Twilight is saving the day in the season 7 finale. I don't see the problem with Starlight and Chrysalis finishing their fued.
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>>30906767
writers don't have to be the ones to come up with it
business decisions meddling in the affairs of story writing to keep things in-the-know for the most recent generation of 7-10 year olds who were likely newborns or super-toddlers when the show started
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>>30906619
So, they're just copied the script of today's episode?
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>>30906760
Look at the pic, create beings that can shapeshift into wings that bond with Starlight Glimmer.
Just make them detachable and it doubles as a pet.
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>>30906566
i did suggest an alternative, I said practical teaching which is a thing: trust exercises, team building activities, team-based competitions. like i said, just because you cant think of anything does mean there are no options. you're letting your pessimism--and you are a pessimist--cloud your vision.

each episode treats a different aspect of a Rarity or AJ problem, and while they could all be boiled down to a single theme, they each address a variation of those characters' element. you could also allow that after 3-4 episodes the lesson finally has sunked in.

once again, you can't see how the characters can teach their respective element, but that doesn't mean there are no options that do not ignore their strengths and flaws. and whatever their flaws are, they are not a lack of communication skills! Rarity and AJ made friends in two separate episodes by staying true to their element, and Rarity made a friend of her prissy store manager.

you're afraid the writers will fuck up the character but at the same time your not letting the characters grow. even with filler episodes where the writers seem to recycle character flaws, they have let the characters grow more than you do.
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>>30906595
it qualify if you ignore the rest of the episode setup.
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>>30906785
Sorry but I find your theory extremely inadequate. There is literally no reason to add pointless complexity to the story. This is not a matter of "kids don't know what happened in S2" or padding the story with mysticism. Chrysalis is going to try something new, and my money is on a spell or a potion (something that actually requires physical samples).
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>>30906619
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>>30906830
>believing they'd try something smart leading in to the time wherein the writers for Season 8 were simultaneously dealing with the elections of last year
kek no
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>>30906739
The show absolutely should be taking more inspiration from Mario, but the writers and directors would need to be creative to pull it off. That doesn't exist with this staff.
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>>30906865
hasbro's corporate meddling doesn't help, either.
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>>30906865
If it had done something like that sooner, it probably wouldnt have been bad. Doing it now would likely be too much of a tone shift to be well received.

Something like that would be better off for a spin-off or reboot.
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>>30906865
>>30906873
More than likely if the staff was given the orders to make the season feel more like Mario they would start making bits a bigger part of the show and have an episode about magical mushrooms.
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>>30906806
how can you not see that as the most autistic fucking thing ever?
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>>30906904
Because it's fucking Slashy
He wants all of the ponies to get Mario powerups
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>>30906904
Because he is autistic.
Something like that would be better served as a Discord prank or the like, not an attempt at "Character development".
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>>30906859
It wouldn't even be smart. It's the same as Starlight Glimmer's return in The Cutie Re-Mark:
>bad guy, previously defeated and forced to retreat returns all alone in order to take revenge on the protagonists by means of a magical plot device
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>>30906819
>i did suggest an alternative....

Don't really see how that is supposed to show the audience anything of interest (which is the point hasbro is interested in). Even if hasbro goes with this idea, it is still pretty twilighty, it still is a rigid activity like a classroom setting would be. The best idea would be RD having her students go out into the world to experience friendship, but we already did that with Twilight's friendship letters.

>each episode treats a different.....

I am not seeing how that makes them qualified to teach at a school even if we assume they finally learn their lessons by then. None of their lessons or character traits indicate that they would be good teachers. There is no build up to this idea at all.

>once again....


The problem is that this idea ignores the characterizations of most of the mane 6. It worked well with the CMC because their earlier episodes set them out to be people who would like helping/teaching people with episodes like Hearts and Hooves Day, One Bad Apple, and Appelsosas Most Wanted. Even episodes not directly about helping people still gave them lessons relevant to their end goal, like knowing how far one should go for a cutie mark, learning what the real point of knowledge is, or even just building the trio up as a better team.

The mane 5 haven't had episodes like this that indicated/built up their interest/abilities in teaching others. The CMCs life goal was to teach people and that clearly isn't something meant for the mane 5.

>you're afraid the writers will fuck up the character but at the same time your not letting the characters grow. even with filler episodes where the writers seem to recycle character flaws, they have let the characters grow more than you do

Because the idea is genuinely bad. It either retreads what the CMC have already done, turns the mane 6 into mary sues, or turns into a cringefest of the mane 5s worst elements.
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>>30906916
That doesn't sound like a terrible idea, good for toys.
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>>30906806
Getting wings=/=alicorn'd.
Sure, S1 is a more or less a different show lore-wise at this point, but that's most likely one thing they'll keep.
Not to mention the whole alicorn=royalty question.
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>>30906904
it would be a breath of fresh air after the shit vogel has done with the show
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>>30906836
I hope Moon Dancer becomes a teacher in Twilight's school.

It would be nice to have all the nerdy unicorns together. Heck, even Sunset, at this point I don't care anymore if EQG is referenced in the show.
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>>30906949
>at this point I don't care anymore if EQG is referenced in the show
Then thank fuck the show staff do
Nobody wants some shitty barbie hogging screentime in the PONY show
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>>30906916
I would buy a Raccoon Pinkie Pie toy or a Metal Rainbow Dash one.
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ITT: OP is a faggot that didn't give source for the quote and retards unquestioningly believe him.
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>>30906916
There is LITERALLY nothing wrong with that.
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>>30906949
>Heck, even Sunset
Anon...
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>>30906904
>>30906916
Lots of things can work if you give them a good reason to be there. Giving Starlight a pet is a great way to further her as a character and I think having to work with her pets in order to accomplish tasks like flying would give her a major opportunity to improve her team work skills.
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>>30904554
Is everyone excited for Twilight 2.0 to get ANOTHER season finale to herself again?
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>>30907003
I am so excited
And I just can't hide it
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>>30906916
>hating on elements that can add fun to the show
Barbieposter pls go.
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>>30907003
That's a premiere.
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>>30907011
at least EqG does it better.
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>>30904606
I AM GONNA STEP ON THE TOYS
TONIGHT I WILL BE A LEGO
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>>30907060
N-nani
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>another Starlight focused premiere/finale
>She's the one saving the day, this time without Discord or Thorax
>Chrysalis reforms
>The Movie events are canonised in S8 with sea ponies
>that means Rarity is also getting a canon furry boyfriend

I need a ride-ending button to press.
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>>30906509
That's canon for S8 finale.
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>>30905665
>friendship school
>her friends will act as teachers
>Discord will teach about chaos
>he will have an affair with fellow teacher of biology, Fluttershy
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>>30907101
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>>30905063
>What if the weird changeling in the bottom left is reformed Chrysalis?
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>>30907082
>take metal thing
>press electrical socket
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>>30907101
>And Discord will be a bad guy again in S8.
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>>30906509
It still hurts looking at this. God Damn you to hell Hasbro.
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>>30907122
>Your mom will suck my cock in S8.
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>>30904697
Wheres spike?
Why the wipe after the second flash?
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>>30907151
>Wheres spike?
Who's spike?
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>>30907160
The dragon.
For that matter why was spike not in fame and misfortune. I almost feel like he should have taken glimmers place.
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>>30907172
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>>30907215
Oh wait I see, i missed a '
Not a very good joke was it.
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>>30906978
>>30906956
Not that anon, but at this point I don't see how it could make things any worse than they're already going to get, so fuck it, bring in sunset, and furries, and ships, and lesbian ships, and a thousand more autistic fan characters
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>>30906544
>everyone I don't like is /pol/
>am I fitting in yet, guys?
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>>30904922
Good riddance
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Are you guys saying it's shit just because it looks like Starlight may be the hero, or are there other reasons?
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>>30907374
t. newfag
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>that moment you realize that around the middle of next season Starlight Glimmer will have been a character in this show for longer than she wasn't.
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>>30907445
Nah. To get to that level of hate, one needs to be exposed to the autism of faustards for an extended period.
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>>30907455
Fucking kill me
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>>30907457
Oh so you'be been here a full year or so? Aight.
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>>30905185
Eat shit
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>>30907455

Hey, at least her introduction and defeat were good. Had she just been banished, I would have loved the season 5 opener and found the finale ok.
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>>30907469
Kek. Your lot has been in non-stop bitch mode since she left. You're so desperate to hate on the show that you'll even make shit up like Chrysalis reforming or Starlight getting wings just so you can start a circlejerk about how shit the show is without "mom." Stay sour my cucked friend.
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>>30907441
Many don't like to see Chrysalis reformed. As for the content of the plot it can go any direction for all we know. Maybe Glimmer gets captured, maybe the Main 6 will, maybe they will all work together...
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>>30907489
You're attacking a strawman, friend. I love this show, always have.

But just because it's a children's cartoon doesn't mean it's above criticism. If I think something is shit I'm going to say it, and having a new alicorn every season is just retarded.
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>>30907500
I never said you couldn't criticize it. I was never a fan of how Twilicorn was handled myself. But there's no proof either Chrysalis is reforming or Starlight is getting wings and everyone is talking like it already happened so they can doom post and say "this would never happen under Faust!".
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>>30907534

It's guesses on current releases. I know there's a lot of shitposting aroubd it, but at least you get some discussion.
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>>30904979
She left the show, how upset could she possibly have been?
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>>30907455
If we forget about S1-4 then she would actually become a legit Mane7th character. But for now she will always be yet another Scrappy Doo forced into the show forever.
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>>30907495
Do we even have any proof she will be? A few people are spouting that "no villain is irredeemable" line but there is no source on it. It's something EQG would of reported I'm sure
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Oh good LORD.
This has the same feel as movie magic-- Everyone BUT starlight is going to get fucked or taken out (She steals hairs from all of them but starlight... which makes no fucking sense since she wants revenge on STARLIGHT not them...), so they starlight alone can save the day.

Just like fucking movie magic.
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>>30907577
>A few people
It's one guy trying to cause drama. /mlp/ is notoriously easy to bait.
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>>30905600
wait haber is the fucking story editor in S8? please tell me you're just shitposting
he'll kill the fucking show
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>>30907577
Even if the "no villain" line is bullshit and the pic of that elderly changeling is also misinterpreted, I think it's bound to happen. She was already almost reformed, and I doubt they are going to play a game of cat-and-mouse with Chrysalis and the Main 6.
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>>30907595
Oh so there is no real evidence that she will, but I do understand the fear that she may.

Couple ways they can go with this, from best to worse in my opinion;

-Queen Chrysalis uses the photos and DNA to make mane 6 changelings to be her servents and look something like >>30905597

-Chrysalis plays mind games on Starlight to make her feel unimportant and unliked, hurting her ego and possibly even making her somewhat a villain for a bit like Discord in season 4

-chrysalis just has another group of rouge changelings cause havoc as the mane 6 to make them hated. (why would she need the photos and DNA then?)

-chrysalis captures the mane 6 and Starlight saves them

The top 2 sound badass, the other two are pretty shitty. And I'm a Glimmerfag.
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>>30907637
I don't even know where they can go with her being reformed. Would Thorax just hand leadership back to her?
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>>30904565
Jesus, why is this pony so amazing?! The main star of the show truly deserves to be a princess!
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>>30907644
"turn the six into changelings" would have been a cool plot with the six struggling against vampiric hunger, but now we know that all changelings have to do is be nice to each other and they'll turn into gay beetles.


I'm betting she makes voodoo dolls of them and tries to control the six to shit on starlight.
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>>30907644
>-Chrysalis plays mind games on Starlight to make her feel unimportant and unliked, hurting her ego and possibly even making her somewhat a villain for a bit like Discord in season 4
I'd actually really enjoy this. Would solidify against the poochie is perfect meme.
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>>30907674
if they wanted to stop us calling her poochie, they'd stop making the episodes ABOUT her and instead be about the GROUP with her as part of the group. Show some damned chemistry instead of her being the keystone to a plot.
This pretty clearly is telegraphing it'll be another Starlight centric episode, which kind of proves the haters right.
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>>30907697
I agree with your premise, but I'm tired of the same old shitposts and "epic memes XDDDD".
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>>30906559
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>>30907662
Nope, Starlight will not become a princess and Twilight Sparkle will resign as princess in S8.
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>>30907659
I don't think anyone has any interest in being ruled by Chrysalis again. Thorax will probably remain the leader.
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More Hascon previews

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJyQQDPNy7w
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>>30907727
Look like shitty episodes. The next hype is probably S7 finale and S8 premiere for me.
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>>30907637
> She was already almost reformed
No, that was her defining character moment where she completely rejects friendship; it wasn't foreshadowing for a later redemption. That would give it the air of the writers flip-flopping. Besides, Chrysalis becoming good wouldn't make sense. They wouldn't force Thorax to abdicate the thrown so she'd have no role in the new changeling society.
Also, while FIM reforms a lot of villains, we often forget that there are quite a few that haven't been redeemed.
Sombra is dead.
Tirek is in hell.
Storm King dies.
Flim & Flam are still conmen.
Gladmane, Lightning Dust, Wind Ryder, Caballeron, Ahuizotl, Diamond Dogs are all off doing their own shit.

There's no hard rule that says she has to be redeemed.
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>>30907717
Then what's the point in reforming her? You know, Glimmer enslaved a village but Bug Queen used a whole species for her own benefit.
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>>30907717
Honestly, I'd rather have Chrysalis "make" a new group of changelings that are loyal to her to rule over than have her redeemed.
>>30907710
Starlight's not going to become a princess, stop shitposting.
That being said, they're going to make her as super special as they possibly can WITHOUT giving her wings. So basically the same damned problem, just missing a cosmetic addition.


I mean, fuck, this is what, the SIXTH finale/premier that will be about her?! (Not counting Mirror magic in EQG)
She has more Premiers/finales dedicated to her than TWILIGHT now. (twilight has 5 CW, TCE, MMC, PTS, TK, Starlight has TCMM, TCR, TC, TW&BA, CA, This one
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>>30907727

>rumble

He finally hit the puberty
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Cliche, where?
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>>30907760
Is he for sexual now?
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>>30907727
Wow! Mini Glimmer
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>>30907784

yes
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>>30907707
Am I supposed to take a post from an obvious faustfag seriously when he provides no sources and when everything I've observed between Lauren and her original writing staff is nothing short of amicable and contradicts everything in that post?
...but then again no one lies on the internet. Especially hero worshiping fanboys.
Tough call.
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>>30907727
>>30907784
>>30907803

>MLPG:the episode

insta 0/10
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>>30905002
starswirl died 1000 years ago anon
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>>30907747
If that's how you interpret that scene, I can't say much in return, only that the look in Chrysalis's eyes meant to Starlight that there is still hope. Just don't be surprises if her redemption will eventually happen.

>>30907748
Good question. It's probably the reverse of the ending of Nineteen Eight-Four, where Winston was kept alive until he was indoctrinated into the Party. By redeeming the ultimate evil, the ponies basically prove that friendship truly is magic, or something. Also, we may assume that Chrysalis is still up to no good and the Main 6 know this. And who is to say nu-Chrysalis can't do anything good if she isn't in charge?
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>>30904983
>Josh Haber returns as co-editor
>Mike Vogel returns as writer
the show is completely fucked isn't it
we're done for
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>>30907826
2 things:

One, he was actively researching spells that could turn you into an alicorn. Its not impossible that he managed to turn himself immortal.

Two, and more importantly, his Most powerful magic that he created and researched was TIME TRAVEL spells, and in the journal its made clear that he wasn't fully in control of or precise with his time travel spells (As he made himself younger by accident when using a spell once for example)-- Its highly possible he didn't die, but accidentally Sent himself flying through time, so he could end up popping up out of a time portal, samurai jack style, anytime the writers want him to.

3. The sisters don't know what happened to him, they say he just "dissapeared" one day, which implies a magical accident of some kind rather than death, so he's probably still alive in some form somewhere.
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>thread about the show reach the bump limit

Wow
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>>30907848
ABANDON ALL HOPE
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>>30907806
there is no hope left for you, anon
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>>30907875
Oh wow, that's really not been a thing in quite a while has it.
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>>30907848
yep, enjoy the show while it's still decent
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>>30907892
How does any of that hollow drivel support the argument that Lauren is solely responsible for S1 & 2 being good and not the result of a group effort on the part of the writers and animators?
Quit trying to get the approval of a "mom" that will never come back to you.
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>>30907917
you're retarded
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>>30907923 are a faggot.
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>>30907930
kys retard
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>>30907917

While I have respect for being able to bring together a creative team cohesively, it blows me away how much credit people give Lauren for everything. Its even been said directly by her during interviews that the bible she made to pitch the show was a colaborated effort of a lot of industry friends and her. While a lot of it was her ideas, they were tweaked and bettered by multiple outside sources and given life by those people as well.
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>>30907942
get out underage
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>>30907942
>faustfags this butthurt over someone not drinking the kool-aid
It's okay anon. Lauren is cool. It's her fanboys everyone hates. Being obnoxious about it just increases the animosity.
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made a new thread >>30907973
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>>30907976
>It's her fanboys everyone hates
>everyone
if by "everyone" you mean a couple of autismlords literally choking on vogel's cock while they post starlight
don't give yourself so much credit, child
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>>30908053
>being this insecure
By everyone, I meant everyone who isn't a brain dead retard who can objectively look at something with reason.
Nice of you to bring up Vogel out of the blue like that though. Now I know I'm talking to a filthy gypsy /pol/tard and don't need to waste anymore (You)s on you.
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>>30908131
>le /pol/ scapegoat/boogeyman
shouldn't you be on twitter?
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>>30907667
Yeah I like the voodoo doll idea too and failed to put that on my wish list. I'd probably put it equal to the Starlight mind games one, but it's still miles better than the bottom 2.

Any of the top 3 would be amazing really
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>>30908212
If you don't like people calling you a /pol/tard, then you should have done a better job at hiding your power level, vogelfag.
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>>30904697
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>>30904979
>she had nothing to do with that finale

?

She explicitly stated that she had a hand in every single script for S2.

Seeing as all of the episode ideas are created at once, she would have known about that episode and had some kind of direction over it.

S2's writing happened in the summer of 2010. Faust didn't leave the show staff until 2011.

just saying
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