>huge lore centered episode >threads about it in less than

>>30833904
Ride's slowing down, mane.

>>30833904
That's because Midnight Raven is better than Inky Rose

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>>30833904
exactly what you think.

>>30833904
People say they want lore but don't care about lore when given it.

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>>30833925
No

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>>30833934
yes.

>>30833904
Post lewds

>>30833911
This. Fandom is dying and has been for years. If we had this episode 4 or 5 years ago there would be waifu threads ,lore speculation about eastern unicorns, and more.

>>30833925
best glimmer

shame she was just a fantasy christmas song

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>>30833904
not the first time it happens
it will eventually but the best part is that you don't know when

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>>30833942
Exactly what you think

>>30833904
Wait which episode is this? The latest one? I've been offline for a week so sorry

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>>30833951
exactly what you'd expect.

>>30833925
>>30833934
>>30833942
>>30833951
>>30833971
This level of cancerous low-energy shitposting is fucking devastating to the board holy fuck. This is actually worse than Glimmerboop posting.

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>>30833971
Okay.

>>30833976
So?

>>30833976
Unfortunate, isn't it? This board is just baiters baiting other baiters.

>>30833991
so how can you bait a baiter by being a baiter that just baits?
the baiter wouldn't be a baiter if he caught the bait from another baiter that just baits as the original baiter.

Does this mean that the best baiter whose bait baits more than the other baiter is considered the baiter?or is just the impostor baiter baiting him into the bait?

I don't get this bait,you baited me as a good baiter

>>30834073
>so how can you bait a baiter by being a baiter that just baits?
By being a master baiter.

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>>30833904
>Pretending the husbando threads don't exist.

>>30834080
wrong
you almost baited me there
a master baiter would get baited by his apprentice who has learned the best baiting tactics from the best baiter

and if he gets to bait the master baiter,the new baiter would get baited by another newcomer with a delicious bait

it's a bait that never stops baiting from the bait circle

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>>30833904
>>30833928
>huge lore centered episode
It's not a huge lore centered episode though. Please stop your autistic TVTropes-tier pretension that MLP has some semblance of a "deep lore". There is no structure or anything to the three stories we see. We don't know when they happened. We don't know whether they happened at the same time period. We don't know how Equestria used to look back then, with all these regions randomly based on real life civilizations just scattered around like in Samurai fucking Jack. And we will never know that, because that's not real worldbuilding, that's just some random things the writers thought would look cool and slapped together. It's not "huge" in any way. It's never going to play any part in anything, or even get mentioned again.

You guys say it doesn't get discussed much because the fandom is less active. That might be true, but have you also considered that it doesn't get discussed because people realise it's pointless? Why construct fan theories if these stories are just throwaway pieces of random stuff that are never going to get revisited again? Sure, you can make fanworks based on these stories, and I believe they are being made, but for that, discussion on 4chan is not necessary at all.

>>30833904
its been years. we all have our waifu.

>>30834198

it took five years to introduce Glimmer

>>30834181
>Why construct fan theories if these stories are just throwaway pieces of random stuff that are never going to get revisited again?
You mean like most of the show?

>>30834220
Yes, exactly.
>Please stop your autistic TVTropes-tier pretension that MLP has some semblance of a "deep lore"

>>30834205
so youre saying you also already have a waifu. i rest my case.

>>30834198
>implying faggots don't change their waifu every now and then for another one
>implying the possibility of having multiple doesn't exist

a...anon...

>>30834245
we both know those arent the same thing as a waifu. you got people who have a 'favorite' character for a while and then change, and you got people who think they got their own personal harem.

>>30834230
I don't think anyone actually thinks this. People just like discussion, because it opens up room for new ideas and interpretations of the show, even if it's all headcanon/fanworks.
At that point, what is there left to discuss?
>"I liked thing"
>"Me too. I also liked thing"
>"I like the part where x happened"
>"same"
>"same"

>>30834265
the fun part of discussions is creating deepest lore out of next to nothing.

The stories were very basic and there's nothing to discuss.

>>30834260
where do you notice the difference between a personal favourite to a waifu?
the style of posting?green,art?where do you establish the line?

>>30834295
favorite = I like this pony more than all the others
waifu = soulmate

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>>30834181
>Stop having fun, it's pointless!

>>30834276
Exactly, for an example we find out that sombra was a fucking weeb.

>>30834295
its not our job to know who is genuine and who isnt, nor does it really matter. if you have to ask where you stand then its likely you just have a favorite pony.
coincidentally my favorite pony isnt the same pony as my waifu.

>>30834307
what if the anon that has a favorite writes the story of sharing feels to her but that same anon just only feels like needing somebody to share it?

what if the favoritefag tries to empathize with the character feels and gets certainly close to her?
what if the favoritefag has wet dreams about her but with some context behind it?

>inb4 you reply to me like Prince Rutherford in Not Asking for Trouble

>>30834312
>>Stop having fun, it's pointless!
For many people, making theories stopped being fun once they realized that all the exciting set-up leads to nothing. Not even missed opportunities or underwhelming plots, just nothing.

>>30833944
>DYING DYING DYINGDYINGDYING

No, the characters are just uninteresting.

>>30834355
Honestly, Like this anon said >>30834331 If you have to ask then you probably don't have a waifu. You will know if you have a waifu because she will mean the world to you. You will want to protect her smile, and be there for her no matter what. It's different from having a favorite pony you can relate to and have sexual fantasies about.

>>30834381
you sound like the kinda guy who thinks the destination is the journey. the point is to have fun along the way. why would you expect it to have some greater meaning?

>>30834383
>No, the characters are just uninteresting.
And whose fault is that, I wonder? The writers?
yes, it's the writers.
The fandom is dying, anon. Face the music.

>>30834402
>>30834402
>why would you expect it to have some greater meaning?
that's what many fandoms for active series do

>>30834414
what greater meaning is that?

>>30834418
Just missed potential in general, anon. Obviously.

>>30834425
that means literally nothing. there will always, always be missed potential. you can find the most perfect series on the planet and find some missed potential. its stupid to measure something by what it isnt instead of what it is.

>>30834392
understandable
but the waifu catalog is pretty wide
you can't just simply desire to them something that isn't smiles and protect them

only a few exceptions don't deserve those smiles but the main/popular ones clearly do

about defending them and be the meaning of the world to you....
it's probably the defining factor here and a little bit too much to handle for me

>>30833904
>Lore
They're just legends. Not a huge deal.

I'd have liked to have known how Rockhoof got his powers. I know they didn't have time to tell us in the episode, but it made that legend feel like the weakest of the three.

>>30834455
>>30834392
To add, your waifu is also your inspiration, your muse.
At their most base simplistic form, she's the representation of your ideal mate.
It's part of the reason why having more than one or changing waifu willy nilly is considered repugnant by most, it's the sign of an immature person who simply doesnt know what they want.

Your waifu will come to you in time.

>>30833904
This is the anonfic board now.

>>30834515
so why would someone spend so much time in an ideal mate that will never find in their lives?
don't they lose energy for it instead of sharing them to someone real?

>>30834434
>you can find the most perfect series on the planet and find some missed potential.
Even then, there are series that manage to deliver and others that deliver little.

MLP never delivers anything. It's all set-ups without punchlines (see: the latest episode), or punchlines without set-up (see: every finale in the series).

>>30834406
I have better things to do than watch MLP. If you're telling me people are giving less of a shit by the day, I can just find new interests instead.

>>30834547
you can hold whatever opinion you wish, but the bottom line is its extremely popular and successful. obviously many people enjoy it for what it is rather than what it isnt.

>>30834715
>many people enjoy it for what it is rather than what it isnt.
Nowhere near half as many as people used to back in 10-11.

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>>30834181
>ywn see defensive lightning batteries
>ywn see ponies' control of the ecosystem explored further
>ywn see close air support chariots
>ywn have a coherent system of unicorn magic explained to you
>ywn see interesting forms of warfare due to ponies being able to shoot lasers and fly
>ywn see grand magical systems that power homes
>ywn have the levels of sentience between different animals even hinted at you
>ywn see hoofball played in the background by foals, or ever again
>ywn have a set level of how powerful each character is
>ywn see interesting fauna or flora that isn't from some mythology
>ywn see the Everfree be a mysterious dark force waiting to be explored ever again
>ywn have a cursory glance at Equestria's government and the underlying administraiton
>ywn see Equestrian laws or court
>ywn see non-ponies having interesting cultures or value systems that grew out of their biology or traits, and how it conflicts with the ponies' value systems
>ywn the Saddle Arabians ever explored again
>ywn have ancient Equestrian history hinted at in meaningful ways
>ywn have a consistent world for MLP, in which the systems and ideas presented make logical sense and work together to create a tangible world to get lost in addition to watching ponies

At least I got to watch my waifu be cute

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>>30833904
There were a lot of interesting implications to that story but I think most of us are silently resigned to how likely it is Hasbro will never go anywhere with them.

>>30834788
But anon. You'll see Pinkie Pie worry about pies.

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>hotter than vampirwaifu
lmao

Let's see, what exactly was wrong about this part of the episode
>curved horns
>this random ass bitch from fucking nowhere has flowing mane because lol xD
>gookponies, instead of creating a new and unique species

No, fuck you, it was actually the worst part of the episode, even that bit about viking pone becoming fit by magic was better

>>30833904
It means too little, too late, OP.

You don't churn out a completely shit season and expect that one or two episodes somehow justify all the shoddy job done on the rest.

>>30835504
Glimmer?

>>30834547
What about the season 1 finale? They spent the whole season building up to that.

>>30835509
Glimmer is the lesser of the season's fuckups.

>>30835527
What else is there?

>>30835504
I've seen plenty of people who say that season 7 is their favorite so far.

>>30835533
Shit.
Lots and lots of shit thrown around without the least care for anything.

>>30835550
I see billions of flies eating shit every day and not because of that I would want to eat shit as well.

>>30835552
Example? You can't say shit like that without qualifying it.

>>30835559
Maybe but you don't get to decide what's shit and what's not, especially if you're not even going to explain why something's shit.

>>30835565
> Series going nowhere
> Starlight still not getting any developement or backstory
> Starlight's episodes always depending of a fuckup so she could have something to fix
> Spike's lone episode was shit
> Twilight's character still not going anywhere
> Discord is boring and bland as fuck, and tihis is coming from a guy who thought the character was going to keep the show unpredictable and fresh
> Yet another ham-fisted anti-fan episode (It COULD have been funny as hell under a better writer)

The perfect pear and the campfire episodes were good though.

>>30835632
Understandable, I just think they are playing it too safe.

>>30835605
You don't get to decide what is not shit either, you know.

>>30835638
I think they are incompetent assholes who only see the series as a paycheck and then try to have things both ways:

The series is only for little girls, so if you are an adult fan you have no right to criticrize anything, simply because it's not for you.

But if you want to praise the staff, invite them to conventions or shield them from critics? Then they are all ears, despite how the same series is still not for you.


Fuck, I rage when i think how Fame and Misfortune could have been if Larson had handled it instead of the incompetent hacks we are stuck with.
Remember that Starlight Glimmer was very interesting on her debut because Larson was in charge back then.

>>30835670
They also openly said that some adult fan feedback DID help them.

>>30835678
Source and direct effects on fully identified episodes, please?

>>30835632
Not the person you responded to but:

> Starlight is developing. All Bottled Up shows her learning to handle negative emotions and Rock Solid Friendship further shows how compatible she is with otherwise social misfit characters.
> Starlight doesn't directly fix the problem in either of her episodes so far this season. The royal sisters talk things out on their own in A Royal Problem and the problem of Starlight withholding her negative emotions in All Bottled Up was only solved because she accidentally broke the bottle. You seem to be projecting your impressions of her in season 6 with her appearances this season.
> Twilight's character arc is already complete so of course there won't be as much development. That being said, this season has still shown how she still has much to learn on dealing with family issues (A Flurry of Emotions and her upcoming episode) even as she's become adept with friendship issues.
> Discord being "boring" is subjective. I've seen plenty of people who liked his interactions with the unsuspecting town ponies in his episode this season, even from people who didn't like the episode much.
> Not sure what to tell you about Fame and Misfortune. I laughed multiple times on my first viewing so obviously I can't agree with you. Again though, humor is subjective.

>>30835717
Starlight has no personality of her own and her episodes always depend of other characters doing the talk for her. I could understand that during season 06, but not on season 7, especially when S01 gave everyone very definite personalities right off the bat and then every episode (minus the ticket master) immediately made use of that.

>>30833904
People on /mlp/ don't want to discuss the in-universe aspects of the show, they just want to complain about the production staff and the meta. Have you not picked up on this yet?

>>30835761
Derpibooru is that way --->

>>30835739
The thing with Strarlight is that she's just not very dynamic. Her emotional range (at least after her reformation) is pretty small and she lacks the identifiable quirks and interests that the mane 6 have. That being said, I think they're gradually improving this in season 7. They're showing some of the snarkiness and blunt (to a fault) honesty that she had as a villain. They're also showing her dynamic in the group better by letting her be a supportive character in the last couple episodes.

>>30835761
AHAHAHAHA!
SALTY!

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>>30835768
Case in point.

>>30835739
>>30835717
I wish they'd kept her as a villain

>>30835686
It was Jim talking at BC earlier. Gonna have to get a timestamp

>>30835670
Show me 3 examples (besides the Jim Miller tweet) of writers dismissing criticism by saying that it's a show for little girls.

>>30835775
If a character needs two fucking seasons just to START developing a character of it's own I have every right to think that everyone behind of Starlight's creation is, and always will be an incompetent moron who shouldn't work on any cartoons anymore.

I don't hate Starlight per se. I still believe that she could have been awesome under a competent writing and directing team, but unfortunately, it didn't happen and so we are stuck with a piece of shit that's still not going anywhere.

>>30835761

>People on /mlp/ don't want to discuss the in-universe aspects of the show, they just want to complain about the production staff

Pretty much this in a nutshell. It's been like this for a while, and it's driven everyone away from this board. All that's left is the super-autists and shit heels.

>>30835778
AHAHAHA!
SALTY!

>>30835802
>All that's left is the super-autists and shit heels.
Which one are you?

>>30835793
Kossica (or whenatever the bloody tampon it's written), Sibsy, Price, Mebberson...

>>30835800
She's started her development as a reformed character at the beginning of season 6. The episodes I referenced were around the beginning of season 7. That's just over 1 season. And I already agree that she could have been handled a lot better in season 6. The fact that they're now late trying to do what should have been done last season is not a good reason to say that the current season is shit.

>>30835802
Writefags and drawfags still produce their content using the current show canon and keep up with the episodes. It's just that any discussion of it tends to get derailed with meta and Glimmer discussion, just take a look in this very thread, there are examples of both happening right now.

>>30835831
Price and Mebberson subscribe to "Hasbro says its okay so I don't need anything else" because they know no children read the comics.

>>30835834
Let me guess: no matter what I say, you still will try to spin things around to try convincing me that everything is megafabulous and so i should stop having this "wrong" mindset?

If that's the case you can stop trying now.

>>30835843
Sibsy and Koska Kossica (or whatever) still apply though.
It doesn't help that they are basically Miller's yes-women.

>>30835831
None of those people are writers. And two of them aren't even on the staff anymore so you can't use them for an excuse for why the current season supposedly sucks.

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>>30835857
People like you is why the fucking "Hasdrone" word became a thing.

>>30835851
Did I say anything that wasn't true? If I have a viewpoint that contradicts yours than of course I'm going to defend my own view, that's how debate works. If you're not interested in defending your own view though than yeah I guess we're done.

>>30835867
Debate means 2 ideas being exposed.

You want to push yours while stomping on mine.

>>30835863
I've already pointed out things that I think Hasbro has done wrong. I mentioned earlier how Starlight's character development was messed up in Season 6. I haven't mentioned it but I also think that the map is a way to convenient plot device. None of this means that I can't enjoy the current season or that I can't pursue baseless attacks on writers that I do not think are pieces of shit.

>>30835791
I thought I was the only one.

>>30835880
I'm not doing anything to silent your views. I'm just expressing my own. You're the one who's trying to shut down the conversation.

>>30835903
> NO U

Okay, now I know you are trolling.

>>30835791
I wish they had kept Larson as a director. At least he cared and really tried to do good shit with the very few tools he had at his disposal.

>>30835928
We could have had a civil discussion if you had just explained why you disagree with my views. Instead, you just told me that I'm wrong and that I should stop posting.

>>30834181
Fucking this.
I would have hoped for at least some degree of interconectivity between such tales and the world itself, but they could just be made up stories and nothing more instead of something historical that has impact in Equestria.

They were called "legends" as it were...but unlike a certain "Old Mare's Tale", not all of them come to life in a meaningful way

>>30834788
This is equally harsh, but it just goes to show that the world remains unconnected at some very interesting base levels. One could argue that "its fine since its a little girl's show", but you could always have interesting ways to show things like this off in the foreground of an episode plot or a background thing.

It hurts. I'd love to know more about all the little things that make Equestria unique or interesting, but the show will never ever go into it beyond the bare minimum for plot convenience.

>>30834788
>ywn see close air support chariots
Now you mention it, have we EVER seen another flying chariot like the one used by Twilight on the pilot episode?

>>30835686
>>30835792
Any source and examples yet?

>>30834788
>>30835969
The show has had at least some good episodes that have the kind of world building you're describing. Hearth's Warming eve is probably the best example. Gauntlet of Fire, Magic Duel, and The Lost Treasure of Griffonstone also explore different elements of this universe's history and mechanics. Not that they couldn't be doing a lot more but they are capable. I do feel like they are putting more emphasis on consistency this season and "lore" was one of the main bullet-points that Hasbro used when discussing season 8 with investors. I'm optimistic.

>>30834767
/mlp/ isnt the fandom.

>>30836070
>Hearth's Warming eve is probably the best example
Which was raped to the colon and permanently destroyed with that stupid Christmas Carol ripoff episode.
>>30836070
>. I'm optimistic.
And a shill, or a troll spreading that crap with malicious intent.

>>30836059
The one Celestia rides about on, last seen in S3 if I recall correctly.

>>30836070
>Hearthswarming
It was, but there are still questions about Equestria's founding seeing that they raised a flag of the royal sisters before they were ever introduced. Also agreed with >>30836086.


>GoF
You have a point here in that it showed some aspect of dragon culture (though never expounded upon what it means to be Dragon Lord beyond just being a ruler).

>Magic Duel
The Alicorn Amulet's origins were never really expanded upon, nor what would become of it in Zecora's hooves. It ended up being a plot device instead of an interesting tidbit of history, which is disappointing considering that it was the object responsible for this situation.

>LToG
Acceptable, it showed some griffon culture (which Gabby's Ep followed up upon slightly).

And yes, they could be doing so much more with it, but most things end up closed quickly or left open ended.

>>30836086
Apparently all Christmas Carol renditions are rip offs. Someone should tell Disney. I don't really see how it interferes with the lore of Hearth's Warming Eve, especially since it's all myth.

Also, the reception of that episode by professional critics is overall positive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hearth%27s_Warming_Tail#Reception

>And a shill, or a troll spreading that crap with malicious intent.

You're the only person that seems upset by my posts.

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>>30833904
I think that DYEWTS has actually turned into a meme now. I genuinely think most people don't anymore.

>>30833904
The 'lore' was uninteresting. Most of it was just stuff we already knew/had been assuming. Only interesting bit for me was the fact that enchanted weapons and armor were exhibited.

>>30836229
there was only one piece of enchanted gear in the entire thing, that shield.

>>30836242
Yeah, but it gave a little more insight into how magic is/was used in Equestria. Just a little thing, really. Must have been a pretty powerful enchantment to resist dragonfire.

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Thoughts on them? (From left to right: Twittermites, Flyders, and Parasprites)

>>30836298
Twittermites were cute even if they were electric. Parasprites were more annoying looking than dangerous.

Flyders were fucking TERRIFYING.
These things didn't just bite you like mosquitos, they exhibited HUNTING TACTICS-- they webbed up ponies so they couldn't escape (Applejack), took out potential irritants (the fire) and their bites were capable of fucking you up (look at dash)

Those things were basically Killer bee tier mosquitos.

>>30836229
What about how Mistmane pulled off a powerful magic feat by sacrificing her beauty (and youth?, she looked old). Does that not build on our understanding of what can be done with magic?

>>30836322
That too. But I wonder if that part is where the 'legend' nature of the tale comes into play. That spell looked like it used some kind of equivalent exchange system to take effect, and I don't think we've seen anything else like that in the show. Almost everything else seems to tap into some greater power, be it symbols and runes (like Starburst's spell) or fonts of whatever (like the alicorn amulet). The romantic nature of giving up your beauty and youth in order to bring it back for everyone else seems like it was added to the story to make it more interesting as it was passed down.

>>30836314
Sure were. Don't forget that AJ acknowleged that they (the ponies) were food too. The implication is obvious. Flyders fucking eat ponies. They devour them alive. Shits fucking of the scales terrifying.

I wonder how Pinkies and Fluttershy's stories will compare. Twis is of course Starswirl, guess they didn't want to use him for the Movie.

>>30836298
>>30836314
>tfw they're still better than these things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_K7Tp97PsE&feature=youtu.be&t=60s

Their stings are higher on the pain scale than bullet ants and tarantula hawks.

>>30836474
I'm wondering where Pinkie's story will show up; Daring do episode?

>>30833904
You think that these are the 8 magical objects of mage meadowbrook? (And why the fuck is she called "mage" if she's a mud pony?)

Rockhoof's shovel, flash's shield, that flower of Mistmane's?

>>30836387
Seems likely. I also found it interesting how she's the first unicorn to be depicted with a flowing a mane and the skinnier body type that's usually reserved for alicorns. Made it seem like she wasn't just a regular unicorn somehow.

>>30836481
Daring Do ep, she has a pony Egypt story. Fluttershy's in the Zecora disease episode.

>>30836481
I don't get why Mage Meadowbrook was described as an Eastern unicorn when she was an earth pony shaman. Maybe Twilight just made a leap.

>>30836507
Retcon at work. When they made meadowbrook they were just making up a throwaway name for the plot, they didn't have any actual thought behind it.

now they decided "Fuck, we need a plot for this season, lets use all the old pony names we can think of", and so gotta use meadowbrook. But they gotta keep a 2/2/2 Pegasi/Earth pony/unicorn ratio, and for some reason want meadowbrook as an earth pony.

Sooo we get this.

>>30836507
I can kinda live with that if she lives with the eastern unicorns and makes enchanted items for them, but there's no getting around how Sonambula is now a pegasus even though she has her name attached to numerous unicorn spells.

>>30836523
I don't get why they couldn't use use new names? It can't be that they don't just watch the show because they had to have watched the show to get those names in the first place, but chose not to follow the implied races for no reason.

>>30836549
Is there a toy for Meadowbrook?

>>30836549
Flash Magnus, Meadowbrook, and Mistmane were the only ones mentioned I believe.

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Obviously all of the legends become alicorns, and that's how they can make spells and magical items despite originally having been pegasi or earth ponies.

Probably starswirl used them as guinea pigs for his "Turn me into an alicorn" spell that twilight finished or something. The pony of shadows is probably an evil Starswirl that fucked himself up trying to become an alicorn.

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>>30836556
not yet, but I'd be very surprised if there is no Legends of Magic set in the near future.
>>30836574
Somnambula has a comic upcoming, so she'll probably be in the show too like all the other Legends of magic
>>30836579
interesting if true

>>30836165
>4chan is a single person whei it disagree with me, and it's the entire fandom when it agrees with me.

Troll it is.

>>30834181
Pretty much this yea

>>30833904
>the "oriental" unicorns have katana shaped horns

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OP maybe you should just go read Dangerous Business again.

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>Still no zebrastuff

>>30833904
>lore
>a bunch of shit that has absolutely no connection to the show or its history
Lore would have been setting Dash's fairy tale during the Crystal Empire war or having Rarity's tale be the story of the Luna/Celestia schism, corrupted and altered from a thousand years of retellings and additions, until we can only just realize what the story really is.

Not three random filler stories.