>explicitly make the point that you should wait till marriage

>>30685706
>i add pon to /pol/tard thred mummy!!!!! XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>30685709 is kinda right, OP. Get your frustrations somewhere else, huh?

>>30685706
MLP:FIM always felt pretty right wing.

>>30685706
>hurr durr my values are being attacked
You niggers on the polar opposite of the spectrum are just as annoying. Fuck you all!

>>30685709
Not being degenarate is not a /pol/ thing

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>>30685714
Cute and pure

>>30685718

It's been 9 months and you faggots are still pissing and moaning about Trump winning.

>>30685743
Too bad he's going to get impeached

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>>30685743
>>30685753
Stop, pls, nobody cares about listening you two bitching for 2 days about not pony related crap. Post ponies and stop the /pol/tardation, I think it's not that hard.

Or at least get a room.

Fuck off to your offsite circlejerk.

>>30685706
Good values are good values regardless of what political beliefs you have.

>>30685743
Never understood this insult, and I hear it a lot.
"You don't see conservatives rioting in the streets because Trump won like the damn liberals..."
... Yeah, because the conservatives won the presidency and the house. Why would they riot?
That's like saying you're the bigger person for not being upset that your favorite sports-team just won the big game.
"Hey, we won and we aren't we aren't rioting about it. We're just rubbing it in the losers' faces at every opportunity and they're getting mad for some reason."
I have no doubt that, had Hillary won, the roles would be reversed and you'd have angry conservatives rioting on the streets and sulking on the internet.

And you know, this is one of the biggest problems with American politics; how things have devolved into this us vs them mentality on both sides.
It's like nobody actually cares anymore about running the country, or what laws are best for the right reasons.
You have conservative politicians and liberal ones admitting they're voting for policies they don't believe simply because said policy aligns with their party. These are laws that affect millions, and people treat it like a game to be one over the other team.
It's insanity!

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>>30686107

>>30685714
No, you alt-right jerks showed up trying to steal the fandom from the true fans of the show.
Calling mlp right wing is a perverse mockery of the shows message of love and tolerance.

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>>30685753
>He still thinks this is going to happen.
That's cute kid.

>>30686107
>I have no doubt that, had Hillary won, the roles would be reversed and you'd have angry conservatives rioting on the streets and sulking on the internet.

Riots, no.
We don't have the SJW's and pissy feminists to organize the riots.

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>>30685714
>written by libtard anti-trump LGBT people
>right wing
What did this anon meant by that?

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>>30686160
I needed a laugh today. Thanks, anon.

>>30686180
Right, only morons posting bait threads to get the kicks you need from another worthless streak of political posts. You are the same exact thing.

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>>30685706
"just friends"
and "the starlight I love..."

>>30686212
>That projecting
That fucking nujew is scared of the truth. Scared some psychopath deeply in love with FIM and Faust will eventually fuck his shit up at a convention or in front of his house.

>>30686220
>>30686220
Was that even English?
Or do you have a speech to text that you confused with your autisitc screeching?

>>30686229
It doesn't count if they are lesbians.

>>30686233
Not that guy but what he said is completely readable.

>muh retarded medieval goat breeder values
>episode explicitly shows secular marriage

Also, it's implied they have been banging already, but seeing you're triply retarded pol/religion/troll imbecile, I don't expect you to spot obvious cues in normal social interaction, OP

>>30685720
Excited for the movie solely for the cute ponies

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>>30685706
It's simple. They're run by people who - however incompetent - actually care about profit. And any decent market researcher will tell them that pushing regressive agenda is not profitable, so they just stick with whats safe. Which is a conservative position, in original sense of the word.

>>30686433
At this point, simply being pro-marrige is a conservative position. Excluding the natsoc-ish points from pic related, like a half of those points could pass for liberal positions some 15 years ago and are by no means "retard medieval goat breeder values", yet today they're somehow considered conservative.
>episode explicitly shows secular marriage
What did you expect? The Church of Celestia?

>>30686107
I remember Bush, Clinton and Obama (don't remember H.W.). I don't remember anything like the anti-Trump protests, ever. People were pissed when Bush won both times, people were pissed when Obama won both times, but I've never seen anything like this. Nothing this violent. Not riots. Not people dressed in black pepper spraying people and smashing windows and setting fires. They threw eggs at Bush in 2000, and that's as violent as it got.

Also, mods cant be fucked to delete this thread so im replying.

>>30686877
Liberals are a mental disease.

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>>30686905
I dislike such misuse of the word "liberal".

>>30686536
It's not really a conservative value. Marriage is valued on both ends of the mainstream spectrum. The conservatism only applies when you appeal to traditional marriage. I wouldn't call a marriage that takes place outside of a church "traditional".

>>30686212

Big boss hasbro will never allow that.

>>30686956
Certainly the socjus/feminist elements of the american left would have you believe that it's an oppressive tool of the capitalist patriarchy, and even many less radical people don't see a problem with being a single mother.

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>>30686536
>culturally cohesive communities

Yes, unicorns, earth ponies and pegasi are shown living together in peace and harmony, as they are all Equestrians.

>no race-mixing

Actually, Ponyville is a pretty even mixture of the three races of pony, and even has different species living in it like donkeys, cows and dragons. And let's not forget how well the Mane 6 get along, despite being 4 different races!

Also, there was an entire episode condemning prejudice against others based on their appearance or where they're from. Remember?

That being said, yeah FiM is a pretty conservative cartoon, especially compared to other cartoons nowadays. No openly gay couples, no unmarried couples, traditional values, etc.

>>30686536
>segregation of different species
>cultural cohesion
>show canonically has three different species suffering in a hellish misery until they united despite their clear racial and cultural differences
>earth ponies haven't been subjected to positive eugenics despite thousands of years to do so
Gonna go with no.

>>30686945
Do you prefer being called a SJW?

>>30686975
But that doesn't mean they have a problem with marriage itself. That only reinforces my argument: traditional marriage, not marriage itself, is the conservative value. Marriage is valued by both ends of the mainstream spectrum.

>>30686979
We need to start a petition demanding Hasbro be more inclusive.
Other more successful cartoons like SU have embraced having gay couples, mlp should learn from that.

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Pickle Riiiiick!

>>30686979
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. You can headcanon, but it doesn't change the ambiguous reality.

>>30686979
>>no race-mixing
Name one positively canon mixed race couple other than Cadence and Shining Armor (and even in this case Cadence was originally supposed to be a unicorn). They live together, but but they racemix very little.

>>30686991
>Excluding the natsoc-ish points from pic related, like a half of those points
>Excluding the natsoc-ish points
>half of those points
Learn to read.

>>30687016
Disregarding modern feminist theory according to which the very concept of marriage is harmful, claiming that there's nothing wrong with being single mother is against marriage, period. Either marriage is is the optimal low level societal structure or it's dispensable and not needed. Either you agree with that or you're not pro marriage.

>>30687018
>hey guys, lets try and get hasbro to ruin the show by destroying even more of its magic and turning it into every other generic '''kids''' cartoon

>>30687146
It's what's trending now.
All the cool cartoons are embracing the change, why not hasbro.
Hell, IDW can even do what Marvel and DC are doing.

>>30687162
Yeh, but If I wanted that, i'd go watch other things. I don't want that, I want this.
MLP is good because it does its own thing. There isn't really anything else like it on the 'cartoons for toddlers' to the 'cartoons for adults' scale

>>30685774
go back to EQD

>>30687184
It needs more diversity, sorry it's not made to cater to people like you.

>>30687196

And who exactly wants to see this diversity? Children? They don't need that shit shoved into their face.

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>>30687184
C'mon man, this is a weak bait you're replying to.

>>30687203
So you would rather raise kids to be fucking cis or something?

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>>30687295

Would I like my kids to be mentally stable individuals? Yes.

>>30687311
What if your 2 year old son wants to be a drag queen?

>>30687363
Pretty sure the first thing to pop into the kids head is not, "Man this dick sucks and I want to be a girl now. I'm gonna wear this dress and let strangers ram me in the ass."

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>>30685706
>Are they really one of the last companies to not pander to degenerate SJWs?

>>30685720
The show style is still better
Also, sage this cancer thread

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>>30687104
>Name one positively canon mixed race couple other than Cadence and Shining Armor

Big Mac and Sugar Belle.

>>30687402
They do when their mom is a rampaging feminist.
Just google Lactatia.

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>>30687633
Also Mr and Mrs Cake are earth ponies with unicorn and pegasus children.

>>30685706
>>30686536
Then explain the comics

>>30686107
Because conservatives handled Obama winning twice and were fine. Trump gets elected and suddenly every liberal is yelling racism, threating assassination, and spits on the electoral college.

>>30688244
>And were fine.

Did you forget the super violent riots the Tea Party did, burning down the Starbucks and kicking random garbage cans?

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>>30687660
Sure, Mr Cakes 'children'.

>>30686229
>Trixie's eye

What the fuck

>>30688322
He has a very diverse family...
He has a tome of his family tree in the shed behind Sugar Cube Corner.

>>30685706
The Apple family is fairly "traditional." It's also stubborn, poor, and too incompetent to improve its economic standing. Just look at the cider episodes to see how their refusal to abandon tradition screws them (and, to a lesser extent, the rest of Ponyville) over.

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>>30688587
>incompetent to improve its economic standing
They own farms all over Equestria. They were gonna lose the farm in Ponyville because of the bet they made with Flim and Flam.

>>30685706
>>>/pol/
And fucking stay there.

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>>30685714
I think you're confusing values with politics. Any media can be seen as supporting any belief if you stretch it far enough. Either way OP is a huge faggot.

>>30687530
Just friends, do you not know how girl friendship works, etcetera etcetera, you're a fucking retard.

>>30689596
Do they do the girl equivalent of bro jobs?

>>30686905
I think it's just extremist behavior in general that is the mental disease. SJW's are bad, but they aren't representative of all liberals, just like how the Westboro Baptist Church doesn't represent all of Christianity or The Hills Have Eyes doesn't represent all inbred hillbillies.
Like, for every crazy liberal rioting in the streets, there was probably a dozen sitting at their homes doing nothing.

Any belief or value system can become dangerous if taken to the logical (or illogical, as the case may be) extreme.

>>30687104
>claiming there is nothing wrong with being a single mother is against marriage, period. Either marriage is the optimal low level societal structure or it's disposable and not needed. Either you agree with that or you're not pro-marriage.

This excludes the very real position that one can value marriage in society without believing that it is the best option out of the two. If you believe that married parents and single parents can both contribute to said society, than you value marriage without placing it on an unnecessarily exclusive pedestal. It's not as black and white as you seem to want it to be.

In addition to this being a false dichotomy, you are also shifting the goal posts. You're changing the criteria from proving that the nontraditional side of the spectrum values marriage to proving that they are specifically pro-marriage, while defining such a position in a way that excludes the possibility of valuing marriage without accepting that, sometimes, being a single parent is simply better. Abusive relationships are an example of this. An abusive home is worse than a single parent (which includes single fathers, by the way) home.

Back on topic now.

The real proof that the other side values marriage is in their positions: they argue for marriage rights for same-sex couples. If they didn't find value in marriage, they wouldn't argue for same sex marriage. You seem to again be confusing "traditional marriage" with "marriage itself".

>>30688773
>they own farms all over Equestria
I must have missed where this was shown. Can you point me to it?

>>30689650
>>30689701
You two are trying to speak logic and rationality on a 4chan mlp thread... What a time to be alive.

>>30689706
Must be the joos
[Picture of a man with a very unshaven beard wearing a yarmulke and rubbing his hands together while grinning conspiratorially

>>30686107
They didn't riot when Obama won.
They never rioted.
They never get paid like the antifa.

>>30689650
>for every crazy liberal rioting in the streets, there was probably a dozen sitting at their homes doing nothing.
Other way around, junior, sensible liberals no longer exist. They're being driven further and further right by fanatical rhetoric spun by the far left.

>>30685706
Where did they explicitly make that point exactly? Because they kissed after she sang the song too.

>>30688587
>Just look at the cider episodes to see how their refusal to abandon tradition screws them
Did you miss the point of the episode? It's that if you honest in your word AND your actions, things will work out - and they do. If you looked beyond superficial measurement of wealth by money and possessions, you'd see that they have great wealth in trust (for example in S1, AJ is described as the most dependable, reliable, etc. pony in Ponyville). You'd be foolish to dismiss that as trivial.

>>30689701
>you are also shifting the goal posts
Liar. It started with me saying
>At this point, simply being pro-marrige is a conservative position.
here >>30686536

>sometimes, being a single parent is simply the least bad option
Fixed. Yes, sometimes people have to choose between bad and worse, but that doesn't change the fact that marriage IS the optimal option and it doesn't make the bad into good. That doesn't mean single mothers should be stigmatized, but people certainly should not be encouraged to aim for it.

>The real proof that the other side values marriage is in their positions: they argue for marriage rights for same-sex couples. If they didn't find value in marriage, they wouldn't argue for same sex marriage. You seem to again be confusing "traditional marriage" with "marriage itself".
This is more equal rights issue than anything else. And the thing is, one can value something in his actions, but it's by no means automatic that you'll be able to realize and accurately formulate what it is you value and why. Yes, explicitly having "pro-marriage" as part of the same sex marriage platform would be a solid proof, but as I said, I only ever see people talking about it as equal rights issue.

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>>30685706
This triggers the liberal.

>>30685706
As an institution, marriage is dying out.
Divorce rate is 50% as guys "trade up"
Women sick of being treated like property
Gays getting married now
People marrying fictional characters online
People are even marrying themselves now (sologamy)

Where are your values now?
Where is your god now?
The world will soon burn.
He human race is doomed.

Good riddance.

>>30686180
Riots, no.
It would have been full-scale civil war.
And we have all the guns because you pussies don't believe in the Second Amendment.

>>30689716
Liberals are criminals.
Conservatives are the only true patriots.

>>30689783
> It started with me saying "being pro marriage is a conservative position"
Correct. However, you changed the criteria for what meets being "pro-marriage" by choosing to define "pro-marriage" in a manner that contradicts what being pro-marriage actually means. You changed it from from "valuing marriage" to "valuing marriage and not being allowed to value single parenthood". You intentionally made the issue about how one values something other than marriage itself in order to change the criteria necessary to meet the condition of " valuing marriage". In other words, you moved the goalposts. You also brought parenthood into this even though the discussion was about marriage, and not parenthood. This could be considered a red herring, since it attempts to create alternate distractions from the main topic, or a goalpost shift within a goalpost shift. You choose.
>fixed
If maintaining a marriage is the option worse than single parenthood, than single parenthood is objectively the best in that circumstance, and I would definitely encourage single parenthood over an abusive marriage in that case. It doesn't mean I don't value marriage, only that I can see the value in something other than marriage in a circumstance where that value is objectively better. There is also nothing inherently wrong with parenting. My main point here wasn't to prove that single parenthood is somehow better than married parenthood, but to prove that you can support both of these things without a contradiction. That I value one of those things does not mean I do not value the other, which was the premise of your false dichotomy. I was arguing why your "either-this-OR-this" claim was false.
>this is more equal rights issue
They wouldn't fight for such a right if they didn't inherently put value in the concept of marriage itself. Therefore, fighting for the right to marry when someone doesn't have that right is implicitly proof that one values marriage. You're smarter than this, anon.

>>30689878
[Laughs in Watergate]

>>30686107
>I have no doubt that, had Hillary won, the roles would be reversed and you'd have angry conservatives rioting on the streets and sulking on the internet.
Fat chance. If Hillary had won, all the energy spent right now on opposing and fearing Trump wouldn't equal half of the blind worship a President Hillary would receive; she could do worse than Trump and yet get called out less.

At least under Trump people are speaking their mind. Under Hillary, nobody would be able to do that.

>>30689947
Watergate was a partisan witch hunt, just like this Russia bullshit.

>>30686945
Tell that to the liberals themselves. They're the ones that somehow conflate freedom with censorship, leftism and consumerism.

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>>30689705
The part where the entire Apple family nearly cornered the farmers market. Like the one in Appleloosa and Manehatten not even mentioning the one where it mentions halfheartedly in winter wrap up that everyone in the family has dipped their hooves in the produce business. They have no lack of support what so ever, but I can hear you think "das not business savy that's just having connections" and I'm hear to tell you that there is more. Before and after Flim and Flam came along they were and still are the only ones monopolizing the cider business, sure other ponies probably made cider and sold it to the folk in Ponyville, but they don't line up for it and wait days on end for just one drink. Then there is the episode "Somepony to watch over me" where it is shown that AJ, Mac, and Granny Smith regularly export their own goods and that is excluding local sales to the shops in Ponyville like the Cake's bakery and retailers like Filthy Rich. The Apples despite their name also grow a verity of crops like shown in "Return of harmony" and "Applejack's 'Day' Off", and they also own a lot of live stock. What they do to the pigs is beyond me, but you get the point. The apples aren't short on business.

>>30690004
>literally committing violent crimes was just a partisan witch hunt
Okay, sure, guess it helps when you can say "but its okay when these people do it, because reasons"

>>30690067
So, shady property deals, marital infidelity, and lying to grand juries like Clinton did are all okay?

Way to show off your team colors.

>>30690096
>you're pointing out a flaw in my argument, that must mean you support the other side of the crapchute
W E W
E
W

>>30690105
It's a two-party system. If you don't support one, you support the other.

>>30689867
>Divorce rate is 50% as guys "trade up"
>Women sick of being treated like property
I think you've got that the other way around, women are the ones trading up and men are the ones being treated like property, or cash cows rather.

>>30690241
This. If you're not for Truth, Justice, and The American Way, then you are clearly a communist.

>>30685706
>they didn't kiss and fuck before this
>pure
Autism is you.

>>30685706
That's because you can't show porn in a kids show. Why do people always see political messages in cartoons when there aren't any?

>>30685706

>implying Hasbro isn't libertarian
Fuck off conservacuck and SJWs; ponies are free to do as they will so long as they have the ambition and money.

>>30686107
It's almost like libshits constantly needled righties about how "they better not riot when DRUMPF loses lol" and then they went and launched the ultimate bitch fit when Hilldawg didn't convince enough rust belt citizens to "pokemonGO to the polls"

>>30689944
There only really are two viable options for parenting: either marriage or single parenthood and your claim seems to be that non is better than the other. You don't get to say you're pro-democracy, if you think that fascism is equally good option.

>If maintaining a marriage is the option worse than single parenthood, than single parenthood is objectively the best in that circumstance
No it's not. The best option is to divorce and then marry someone decent. And there's a number economical, psychological and other reasons for that.

>b-but I VALUE it
If you're pro-marriage, explain in what sense exactly, rather than spewing buzzwords that don't really say anything.

>They wouldn't fight for such a right if they didn't inherently put value in the concept of marriage itself.
Wrong. They could see some circumstantial value in marriage. Even children do this all the time, where they only want something because someone else has it. Sometimes the value has nothing to do with utility of the thing itself, like simply showing dominance by taking something from someone.

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You're all guilty of "not pony related babble", and as such destined to Pony Hell, where there are all ponies but your fave/s.

Luckily for you, this PJW is here to save your souls from eternal disappointment.

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>>30685706
Good times.

>>30685706
Ep had nothing to do with any political agenda. Stop twisting a meaningless kid's show into an autistic mouthpiece. Forced (You)s and meaningless echo chamber discussion.

>>30685714
Honestly why the fuck is anyone inserting real world politics into a kids show about magic fucking horses.

Wish ameritards weren't such attentionwhores. They got a tard pres. and think their sacks are that much heavier cuz they won? Won what exactly?, and what's this sense of accomplishment?
Also, dunno if the rioters or media are worse.

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>>30690804
thank you based ponyposter, you're the hero we need

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>>30690966
I'm on a mission from Celestia, brother.

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>>30690906
>meaningless kid's show
Politics aside, you're a pathetic weasel if you think that.

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there, this thread is already a lot better now.
I've saved your souls, Celestia is pleased.

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And always remember to plot the plots

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OOOOOOOOOOH, THANK YOU CELESTIA!
(celeeeeeeestia!)

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>>30687633
You forget about the elephant in the room. He's not only different race but also different dimension.

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WE ARE NOT WORTH OF YOUR RUMP, CELESTIA!
(Celeeeeeeeeeestia!)

>>30685706
But these has never been any indication of any of this you idiot.

>>30685706
Why don't you go back to spamming nazi threads?

>>30689867
>some humans don't care for the iron rules of nature
>all humans are going to die out
Nah. Only the "progressive" ones. Evolution is one hell of a reactionary lady.

I need more pony butts in my life.

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>>30691533
there you go, just remember to disable the filters (even tho there's no explicit.)
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>>30691533
Me too.

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>>30691569
It's a wonder Soarin can fly, with such a huge ballast on his back

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>>30686536
>Segregation of different species (no mixing)

So, when did the Cakes get sent to the gas chambers for race-mixing?

>>30689944
Children need two parents, a caring mother and strong father if they want to grow up right. And theyre only fighting for equal marriage rights so the divorce industry can have more opportunities.

>>30685706
Just putting it out there, I'm cool with gay couples, I'm cool with women getting the same wage has a guy if their the same level of employment, I'm cool with people having their own opinions, but the SJWs are completely fucking nuts, same with the extreme christian right has well.

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>>30691652
nobody cares, post plots.

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>>30691672
>>30691652
More Soarbutts it is

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>>30691691
hey, a plot's a plot.

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>>30691703
exactly that's why I usually post both

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>>30691717
I like the way you think, brother.

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>>30691725
Ditto, finally someone who gets it.

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more horse butts.

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>>30685706
>Having basic values and teaching them is now seen as anti-left and pro-right
Politics need to be nuked. All of it, I don't give a shit. I'm sick of everything nowadays being leftist or rightist.

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>>30691778
Join us, brother. We want to spread the word of the plot and free the board from this useless not pony related arguing.

>>30685706
I don't need a damn license to engage in sex without being filled with guilt in and of itself. That does not make me a SJW, if you think that it does FUCK YOU!

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>>30691792
I'm fine with that. I'll do what little I can.

>>30687660
It's heavily implied that these aren't his children. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9VGVxsSeyk>>30689738
So much for "christian values" in MLP...

>>30689738
The point of the episode does not fit with what happens in the episode, though. What allows the apples to win in the end is not their honesty, but the fact that Flim and Flam are overly sure of their victory and allow the Apples to break the rules of the bet by allowing outsiders. From Granny Smith's face when she tries a cup of their cider it's quite apparent that the brother's product tastes great. If anything, the Apples screw over two guys acting fully legit by bending the rules when they see they are losing. Boo!

Either way, I still felt this episode was really cute.

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>>30691799
End the arguing, anon: you can't win against the power of plots.

>>30691802
PLOT IT, BROTHER! CELESTIA IS WITH US!

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>>30691812
That's pretty lewd anon

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Do griffins have plots?

>>30691824
No shit, it's Cold-Blooded-Twilight drawing an OC who already has a good amount of porn herself.

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>>30691839
Of course they do.

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>>30691778
2007 was a mistake

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even teen birbs?

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>>30691875
especially them

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>Pipsqueak in "Super Plotfall"

>>30685719
This.

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>>30691927
No, bad, stop discussing this shit.
Plots.

>>30690758
>there are only two viable options for parenting
So you admit that both single parenthood and married parents are viable options. That means you can see the value in both. Also, there is another option: raiding a child out of wedlock with your significant other. Yes, I know, shocking thought, but it does exist. What is it with you and using the false dichotomy logical fallacy?
.
>your claim seems to be that non is better than the other
I said that you can value both, not that they are equal in value. This leads back to your false dichotomy that you can either be for marriage in the absolute, or you aren't for marriage, which o btfo'd earlier. Other positions exist, as I have demonstrated.

>you can't be pro democracy if you think fascism is a better option
But that's not what I'm saying, is it? I'm saying that both marriage and single parenthood are viable options with value, and, unlike fascism and democracy, thry can coexist within a single governing system. False equivalence.

>how exactly do you value marriage
I assign positive qualities to it. marriage has the potential to enhance one's life, both legally and spiritually. I also believe that single parenthood is valuable in the right circumstance.

Also, why, again, are we talking about parenthood? This discussion was originally about marriage, not parenthood. You need to stop changing goalposts.

>b-but that value is circumstantial. They don't *REALLY* value it.
All value is circumstantial. Gold is valuable because we can use it as a superconductor, but this was not always the case. Before we had computers, gold was still valuable, and even today, gold is used for purposes where it's value as a superconductor is irrelevant. Because of those circumstances, gold has value. Value is a subjective, human concept. Therefore, all value is due to circumstance. As such saying "value of x is circumstantial, and therefore not TRUE value" is contradictory to the nature of value. Try again.

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this is a pretty epic pony thread

>>30691564
>-explicit
If Im looking at pony butts, I might as well get to see the good stuff as well.

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>>30692006
>ywn find the love of your life on the opposite side of a plexiglass dome
still d'aaaaw

>>30687363
My 2 year old son is not going to be allowed to be a drag queen. He shouldn't want to anyway, as he's actually going to have a stable mother and father figure in his life

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>>30692032
You're right, but also forgetting I couldn't post explicit stuff. That's the basic query, just remove what you don't need.

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>>30692032
exactly why /mlp/ being sfw doesn't make any sense

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>>30692068
actually, there's a logic in the sfw plots posting (besides not getting banned), but it would take too much to explain it.

Just
accept
the
Plots.

>>30690562
No, but they made an explicit point to not show them kissing before marriage
Then, just after they are married: >now doesn't feel good

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>>30692032
Nah, why? Enjoying butts without needing to see genitalia can be enjoyed just the same.

>>30692068
I come back to this board 4 years later and it's still bafflingly sfw

>>30690569
Economical liberals can and usually are socially conservative to some extent.

>>30692078
They didn't show it, but they do kiss. Right before Pear is told their family will move, she and Bright Mac are about to kiss and there's no visible interruption other than a scene change. Which implies they did kiss.

>>30690836
Praise Celestia.
Praise the Sun.

>>30691804
I'd say you're taking the story too literally or something like that. Realistically, the sequence of events could be something like
>appuls loose the bet
>flim and flam become the sole cider providers for poniville
>over a longer period of time of, say 2 months, the ponies recognize that flim and flam aren't honest and have no problem with screwing them over, so they start a boycott
>appuls come back
Of course you can't really cram all that into a 22 minute episode, so the writers take some shortcuts. Ideally they wouldn't need to do that, but with some topics it's harder to avoid than with others. Maybe it could've been dome better, but the point still stands pretty solidly, I'd say.

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>still have no idea what the difference between a conservative and libertarian is
god bless Americans and their politics

>>30690935
They aren't really. That's my point. They are slightly right and always have been. I'm saying it's nice for the show to not become a political mouthpiece for SJW's.

>>30691389
>Nazis = Christian Conservatives

good one m8 but try again

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>>30692104
Mind you I never understood why their parties all range between leaning right and far right. Not a hint of left anywhere.

But whatever, plots.

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>>30692127
I do enjoy being labeled as both during certain times on this website, despite not knowing what the fuck either of them means.
pol leaking out or whatever.

>>30692091
But, they are making a point about not showing it, probably to not upset Conservative Christian parents, but it still makes them based.

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>>30692148
That's the reason why I stopped discussing politics or getting news (outside of sport news) on the internet: it makes no fucking sense, it's a dialog between deaf people.

>>30692163
Or, it was just a scene transition you fucking sperg.

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>>30692148
I've also been labeled as both here. It's funny and a bit irritating how easily some people will dismiss an argument just because they feel the need to affiliate an opinion with a certain political orientation, and if said orientation doesn't agree with theirs, they'll call you a "libcuck" or "conservatard" and think they won the argument.

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based Imalou.

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>>30692176
>getting news (outside of sport news) on the internet
You really are me aren't you?

>>30686107
>Yeah, because the conservatives won the presidency and the house. Why would they riot?
Did you see anything like this when Obama was elected

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>>30692183
It's the internet, people listen only to the things that confirm their own bias. It's pure, unadultered, ego-jerking 24/7.

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>>30692176
>(outside of sport news)
What sports are you into, friend? I also need to get my sports news from the internet because I'm into American Football and I'm not American, so people in my country don't give a single fuck about that sport.

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>>30692215
well who gives a shit about em, pone butts>everything else amirite

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>>30692191
In that case, I hope you just enjoyed the 250g of cherry flavored yogurt we've just eaten.

>>30692015
viable ≠ good
>raiding a child out of wedlock
Paper is just a technicality.

>>you can't be pro democracy if you think fascism is a better option
Now you're deliberately misquoting me here. There's no point in engaging arguments based on this.

>I assign positive qualities to it.
I can easily think of positive qualities that I could assign to genocide, murder, or extermination of humanity. That doesn't make me pro- any of those things.

>>30692015
>Value is a subjective, human concept. Therefore, all value is due to circumstance.
Value is perceived subjectively, but there are some truths and values, that go deeper than mere whim of circumstance. There's a major difference between using/furthering something as a disposable tool and supporting it because one believes in it's inherent value to human beings.

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>>30692236
Oh a lot, but football ('soccer' if you're on the opposite side of the pond) is the only one that has me checking every day to see who the fuck the team I root for is going to buy.

>>30692238
Word, brother.

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>>30692244
I do enjoy cherry favored yogurt, thanks me. (2.0)

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Boy, they do love those walltexts, huh?
Talk about ego stroking.

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>>30690804
Good man.

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>>30692317
Anything for my brothers, even those who sin.

royal butts are fun too

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>>30692340
now where the fuck is my pic

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I have a dream. Think about this: an army of plotposters. Two retards start an irrelevant, endless argument in a thread? The plotposters make sure there are enough ponies in it. A shitposter (who clearly has no idea how horsefuckers work) decides to spam gore? The plotposters outnumber his posts with sweet pony backs.

It would be a good fight.
The only good fight.

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>>30692358
who knew the only sane people left on this godforsaken website posted horse behinds?

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>>30692407
Plots put a lot of irrelevant things into the right light.

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>>30692453
I need you to post some more Lyra right now, if you have some more.

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>>30692466
Oh, all I have to do is add "Lyra" to the query. My pleasure.

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>>30692480
thank you based anon.

>>30692271
>good
I said best. Good is a moral argument. I'm not arguing the morality of marriage over single parenthood, only that it has value alongside marriage.

>paper is a technicality
We're discussing marriage. It's not a technicality.

>deliberately misquoting me so I'm ignoring this
If I had addressed literally only the last but, I could see that. That's not what I'm doing here, though. I simply quoted a small segment rather than paste the whole argument in order to save space. In reality, addressed the argument you presented in addition to that.

>I can think of positive values to x but that doesn't make me pro-x

True, but it also doesn't exclude me from being pro-x. I am for people marrying if they gain from it, but also for people being single if that is the better of options. Speaking of misquoting, I can't help but notice you latched onto my mention of parenting out of wedlock while ignoring literally everything else in that chunk of text. Isn't that hypocritical?

>value is perceived subjectively but there are some values that go deeper than mere circumstance
No, not really. All value is subjective. Without human thought, there is no value.
Also, truth is subjective.

> There's a major difference between using/furthering something as a disposable tool and supporting it because one believes in it's inherent value to human beings.
At this point it becomes a matter of opinion. You either believe that they are fighting for the sake of using a disposable tool, or you believe they are fighting because they value marriage. Motive is damn near impossible to prove, and varies from person to person. I think we may just have to agree to disagree. I will say this though: you can't believe that being pro marriage is a conservative position if you believe that you either are for it OR against it, because conservatives do not support marriage in full. They only support traditional marriage between heterosex pairings. Hence, they are pro tradition, not pro-marriage.

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>>30692492
Lyra is a very qt poner, she deserves it.

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>>30692529
I wish I had such a good search engine, unfortunately most of my stuff is nsfw

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>>30692555
>such a good search engine
oh, just Derpibooru with a restricting query.

"lyra, plot, -explicit, -anthro, -eqg, score.gte:200"

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>>30692574
Well done, I'm just searching my own personal archives.

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Weird, there's a lonely cricket chirping in the middle of the night somewhere outside of my window (from the sound of it it's on the other side of the road).

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>>30692626
You should capture it.

PONY ASS BEST ASS

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>>30692647
singles of truth

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>>30692656
Like this ass

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>>30692635
Naah, poor cricket. Also, it's prolly in somebody else's, enclosed. garden.

"Oh hey, hi neighbor! I know it sounds kinda weird, considering it's 1am and I'm in your garden in my pajamas, but I really wanted to catch this cricket."

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>>30692665
one off, satan.

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>>30692671
1am huh, are you from Sweden perhaps, or any of the local timezone countries?
Also ain't no thing, somebody comes out and questions you? you run. Sound's like you've never done a drunken naked dare before.

>>30691622
This

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more butts

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>>30692690
It's too hot, anyway. Also, I advocate freedom for chirping crickets who are slightly outside of their logical habitat (there's a park nearby, which is why I find it weird that this little guy decided to step near the road). No drunken dare for me, today, I guess.

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>>30692726
chicken.

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>>30692740
gladly.

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http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Q5tcFI0WHd
In all its glory.

>>30692901
cute lil chirper