Unpopular Opinion Thread? >Season 1 is the worst season in

Applejack is best and usefull pony

>>30621003
>Wrong.
Season 1's highs are not as high as later seasons, but its lows are nonexistent compared to Season 3's lows. Lesson Zero, however, did a great job with freeing the show from being "the Twilight Sparkle Show featuring other ponies," and I'm saying this as a Twifag.

I do miss "Dear Princess Celestia," though.

>Correct.
She was literally the most powerful unicorn in Equestria and basically The Chosen One since "Mare in the Moon". Plus, she had to be shoehorned into every episode somehow because the show revolved around her friendship lessons.

>I never liked AJ that much anyway

>>30621003
>Sunset is objectively the best character this franchise ever churned out, and it's a huge waste to use her only on an spinoff.
>The cancer killing the show are the fucking pink Mary Sue OCs with their bullshit supermagic
>The movie will be the same shit as EqG, I don't know why you faggots expect it to be good. Think about it, both of them barely have any pony stuff on it, one of them focuses on pastel colored hairless monkeys straight from Monster High, and the other features furries and god knows what abominations from out of nowhere.

A Royal Problem the worst episode in season 6, and making the long awaited Princesses episode about Glimmer proves that no one gives a fuck about the show anymore.
Starlight Glimmer is the cancer that is killing the show, and everyone defending her is a fucking retard who should be unironically shot dead.
People who didn't like season 1 but kept on watching the show to be part of a fandom aren't real fans, and their opinions are worthless.

>>30621003
mary sues are good

>>30621153
season 3 doesn't have any lows

>>30621003
Starlight Glimmer isn't a bad character. I literally do not understand why she is so hated.

>>30621161
starlight is the only good character

>>30621182
I hope this is bait.
>Spike at Your Service
>Keep Calm and Flutter On
>Magical Mystery Cure
besides episodes that are memes to hate,
>Apple Family Reunion
>One Bad Apple

That's 5 of 13 episodes I had to green, and I can probably green more if watched the episodes more recently than 4 and a half years ago.

>>30621217
nice list of five of the best episodes in the series

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>>30621159
Actually, the movie will be worse than eqg. At least eqg had a redeeming feature, Sunset. The movie has...Tempest Shadow. Just look at her. Do you see her ever becoming an appealing, interesting, relatable character and waifu-material? Me neither.

>>30621182
Yes it did. I say this as someone who likes season 3 more than seasons 1.
>games ponies play
>spike at your service
>apple family reunion
Were all mistakes and MMC was rushed too much.

This thread doesn't need to reappear so much.

>>30621257
yeah it does

>>30621257
Its /mlp/s newest general and the only place on /mlp/ where show discussion happens.

>>30621241
those are all good episodes and mmc wasn't rushed

>>30621270
Larson himself admitted it was rushed, and how he would have handled things in a completely different way if it was up to him.

>>30621237
She'll probably turn cute after betraying the Storm King.

>>30621290
larson was wrong

>>30621292
She'll need more than just looks to be waifuable, and to have a large number of fans.

>>30621316
Look, if people have waifued Chrissy, they'll waifu this broad.

>>30621295
He wrote the goddamn episode, he knows more about it than anyone else, and if even HE said that it's shit, then why these faggots are even trying to argue about this?

>>30621257
We get the most civil discussion out of these threads

>>30621342
making something doesn't mean you know anything about it

>>30621335
Like I said it's not about the looks, and although Chrysalis has her fans, they're far from numerous, compared to other characters. And Tempest is already starting at a disadvantage due to her just reeking of 3edgy5u OC shit.

>>30621003

If Faust was still in charge the show would ended like Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends.

>>30621003
Anyone that thinks that any seasons beyond season 3 is a dumbass.

>>30621395
how did that end?

>>30621003
I'm in flavor of Slut shamming.

Hitler was right about few things.

And Mysterious Mare do Well is an underrated episode.

>>30621411
The show was short lived.

>>30621378
It's nothing we haven't seen before.

>>30621411
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foster%27s_Home_for_Imaginary_Friends

>>30621406
you miss a few words there, retard?

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>>30621417
The first two aren't exactly unpopular here.

>>30621411
If thought about it for 10 minutes I would have said The prequel trilogy of Star wars.

Season 1 is tied with 3 for worst season.

6 is a good season, however it also brought with it the only 2 things in this show's history that genuinely pissed me off; Flurry Heart and the Changling reform.

>>30621438
Are you telling me or asking me?

>>30621442
Which two?

>>30621456
the first two, dumbass

>>30621454
>genuinely pissed me off; Flurry Heart and the Changling reform

please explain.

>>30621460
flurry heart and the changeling reform pissed me off.

fucking retard.

>>30621460
Flurry Heart just shat all over the lore that alicorns can't be birthed. Maybe if they actually made a bigger deal about it and delved into why, but they act all shocked for a minute and then forget about it.

Changling reform felt super unnecessary, new designs suck. Also it took away any uniqueness Thorax had being a good changeling.

>>30621003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2BNdF_NCVQ

>>30621471
isnt me

>>30621454
>Flurry Heart
erm,really?Do you even season 7?

>changeling reform

Thorax wasn't reformed,now explain this one.(Hard mode:saying they are gay doesn't count)

>>30621481
don't impersonate me.

>>30621471
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khOG1EqtsBc

>>30621473
they never said alicorns can't be born

>>30621454
>>30621471
>>30621486

>>30621486
I'm not saying Flurry Heart is a bad character, I really liked that babysit episode this season, she just should have been either a unicorn or a pegasus.

>>30621473
Alicorn lore was already shat over when they introduced Cadance out of nowhere. After adamantly establishing that there were only two princesses, suddenly there's a third that wasn't mentioned before. And then Twilight became an alicorn for writing half a sentence on a book.

>>30621511
no, she should have been an alicorn, which is why she was

>>30621518
what did he mean by this?

>>30621513
cadance is good and so is alicorn twilight

>>30621003
Obama is the worst president we ever have.

Hillary is tied Merkel and my mom as the biggest cunt in the universe.

>>30621531
Now THIS is an unpopular opinion

>>30621003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNAy7yCMyBw

>>30621494
that's a good summary of why flurry heart is the best character in the show

>>30621003
Starlight Glimmer is both a terrible character and is unattractive.

>>30621560
fuck you

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>>30621511
if you follow Mendel laws,you will see that Flurry Heart could have been either an alicorn or a unicorn.
Pegasi had a much less chance to happen.

And by your explanation,you could have said perfectly that you dislike the lack of lore of the alicorn race that make things awkward or the way they shoehorn them.

Also,about
>pic related

>>30621531
alicorn twilight really isn't that bad. The idea was fucking awful back then in the moment, but it's been handled relitivly well.

>>30621579
the idea was good then and it's good now

>>30621003
Fiery Joker is a morally jackass that would rather let the world burn then commit a sin.

This is why Lily Peet is objectively better then him as a well balance adjusted adult.

>>30621587
I thought it happened to soon.

>>30621595
it didn't

>>30621003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KPNsvANgqQ

A Royal Problem, Parental Glideance and The Perfect Pear, although very good, show that the show staff is definitely running out of ideas. It seems that they're following a checklist of concepts that weren't used yet in the show and what fans wanted. They just checked out
>Rainbow Dash's family
>Applejack's parents
>Celestia and Luna bonding SoL episode
>Evil Celestia

They're scraping the bottom of the barrel

>>30621602
prove it.

>>30621609
The "quality" of the rest of the season, and then the next, will speak for itself. There's your "proof".

>>30621003
Raritydash and Blank Slate are overrated reactors.

>>30621602
>definitely running out of ideas

implying that Hasbro isn't meddling.

>>30621624
every season has been better than the last

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>>30621639
No, especially since Poochielight Garbage (Vogel and Miller's shit mary sue OC) was introduced

>>30621650
starlight is the best character in the show

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>>30621653
I'm sure that's the position of Vogel, Miller and Haber, considering the heavy handed shilling of Glimmer since they took over the show. But make no mistake, the overwhelming majority absolutely loathes her and longs for the day she fucks off forever from the show.

The graph speaks for itself, interest on MLP was stable until early 2016, when the Glimmershilling started. Since then, there was a very significant drop on interest. People would rather abandon this show than having to put up with Poochie. That's how cancerous she is.

>>30621602
I could think of a season worth of CMC episode premises, if they really ran out of ideas with the main 6, they should move onto the CMC
>CMC episode with pinkie pie
>CMC episode with fluttershy (as it would make a good contrast to the first real CMC episode)
>Apple Bloom fighting against traditional norms on the farm with alchemy
>Say that Carts Before the Pony was an abomination that never happened and make a real episode where Scoots/Dash have a sisterly conflict
>episode where sweetie belle and scootaloo explain to apple bloom how they first met

>>30621679
k, the majority is incorrect

>>30621680
carts before the pony was good

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>>30621680
>CMC
Hahahahahahahha

No one cares about them, m8, never did, even back on 2010, and never will. They're literally there just to pander to the toddler audience, and even the toddlers prefer the M6 and the princesses. CMC episodes are filler, and many people, including myself, just skip them.

>>30621730
CMC are the only characters that matter

>>30621730
Ironic, because they are usually the most well written characters in the show.

Browsing this board has made it impossible to watch the show. I can't hear rainbow dash talk without instantly thinking about green of her getting railed.

I'm honestly here for the sake of being here

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>>30621935

>>30621881
Only because the writing standards for them is very low, since they're kids, what would be trivial for older characters is otherworldly for them. Like mentioned, they are there to pander to the little kids audience.

>>30621003
I like Twilicorn more
and not the fact that she has wings and is a princess
I mean the personality
I reason why I love Amending Fences is because it shows the difference

I also liked episode 100

I think the EQG haters are completely right
but only on the first movie

I really like the ones that came after
And I think they could make Flash almost enjoyable if they continue what they started in the 4th movie

>>30621650
Is being better equal to being popular tho
Don't get me wrong I do think after Glimmer it got worse

But I think it would have dropped anyway

>>30622048
^ same anon


>>30621650
That graph would also mean that S3 was better than 1 and 2
i don't think so

>>30622048
It would be too much of a coincidence to not be correlated. People started jumping ship exactly as the new character was added. Hell, notice that just before the drop, there was a brief spike (around season 6 premiere), where people were undoubtedly checking out what Glimmer was about. Realizing that she's utter shit, and that she's not going anywhere and is here to stay, they left in droves.

>>30622071
The graph is about interest on the series, the amount of people invested on watching this show and being curious about what would happen. It doesn't matter if S3 was shit, but people still had hope for the show and were optimistic about its future, therefore interest remained high. It's definitely not the case now.

>>30621991
That doesn't make sense. That is what separates good kid characters from bad kid character; the show does a good job of keeping them likable by having them fix their own mistakes and have the universe call them out on them; but they are often the ones causing the conflict in their episodes.

Its easier to explain when comparing episodes: compare lesson zero to hearts and hooves day. In the former, Twilight mind controls everyone out of selfish reasons, does nothing to fix it, and has nothing bad happen to her. In the latter, the CMC mind controls their brother/teacher because they wanted to make them happy, take action to fix their mistake, and receive reasonable punishment for it at the end. That is a demonstrable example of the CMC being written better than one of the mane 6.

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Probably not unpopular, but the aliens from the Pone movie look like they scraped up all the Lilo and Script rejects.

>EqG's quality is actually starting to surpass the actual show
>Starlight Glimmer's only redeeming quality is her human appearance
>Sunset Shimmer is best pony

>>30622123
If Hearts and hooves day was a M6 episode, it would be considered one of the worst ever made instead of just forgettable (like all CMC episodes). Conversely, if Mysterious Mare Do Well was a CMC episode, it would be considered regular CMC fare, instead of it's legendary terribad reputation.

M6 episodes and CMC episodes are judged by different standards, and they're much higher in the former than the latter.

>>30621003
Fluttershy have to resort to drugs to become a well balance adjusted adult.

>>30621003
Tara is very unattractive.

>>30622197
If anything, its the opposite. Twilight gets off despite doing the same thing for worse reasons while the CMC were punished yet Lesson Zero is considered one of the series best while Hearts/Hooves is considered just above average.

>>30621679
>anyone leaving /mlp/ ever
False hope is worse than no hope. Don't lie to yourself.

>>30621003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Z_Of2uRjU

>>30621003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6iEnWSL9Fo

Rainbow Dash is the worst character on the show.

>>30622135
>EqG's quality is actually starting to surpass the actual show
No

Starlight Glimmer was a bad addition to the show.

>>30623780
>unpopular

>>30623800
Majority of people on /mlp/ like her though.

>>30625385
see
>>30621679

>>30625573
Could be the other way as well, most of the people who liked her left /mlp/ because of the loud minority.

>>30621003
Not a Shimmerfag
I believe it would benefit the plot line, however childish it may really be, for Sunset Shimmer to become a canonical character in the show.

>>30626102
We don't need another OP unicorn to be a main character. My vote is making a group of side characters the main focus; I wouldn't complain if Glimmer and the CMC became the new main characters.

>>30621003
I unironically enjoyed every episode besides Rainbow Falls and Cart Before The Ponies

I don't think anyone in the show is a Mary Sue

I hate reversed gender roles because the dimorphism portrayed in the show seems to indicate traditional gender roles would be the norm.

>>30627066
>We don't need another OP unicorn to be a main character
Hence the need to drop Glimmer.

I legitimately like the show.

>>30627207
>every episode besides those two
>every
>Cutie Pox
>Mare Do Well
>Dragon Quest
At least you realize how awful Cart Before the Ponies is.

Incest shipping is fucking fantastic.

>>30621093
She's shit

>>30627225
Glimmer could have been a really good character if they made her a partner to the CMC; they are basically foils of each others and it would have been a great way to develop them both without forgetting Glimmers original world view.

>>30629172
>Glimmer and CMC
>Giving focus to characters either no one cares, or that are actively hated

You just described the quickest way to kill the show. Watch those audience numbers fall.

People will think "Glimmer and CMC, really? Didn't they have enough screentime already? Of all characters that could be given the spotlight, why them? I'm done with this shit"

>>30621003
Starlight Slay batch.

>>30629258
The other option is to stagnate indefinitely with the mane 6 and watch the show become the next spongebob or fairly odd parents.

The solution would be to simply write those characters well enough so people do care about them despite being less popular than the mane 6. I'd already argue that the CMC are more interesting than the mane 6 at this point and pairing them with Glimmer is one way to actually fix Glimmers character.

>>30621548
Sadly, as I really like Cadance.

>>30629298
The other option is to end it all. There's no need to keep the ride going indefinitely. Running out of interesting plots? The good characters have been spent and there's nothing to replace them? Just pull the plug and end the ride already. It's far more preferable for the show to end on an high note than to make it turn into spongebob.

I don't get your obsession with the CMC, or why you think they're interesting or that focusing on them will fix anything. They're have been on (not exaggerating) 50 episodes already, all either mediocre or just acceptable. There isn't a single CMC episode that fans consider to be within the top 20. Whenever a new CMC episode is announced, no one gets excited or hyped, they think "huh, that's cool, I guess" or just ignore it.

tldr. The CMC already got a huge chunk of the show for them, and that did nothing to improve the shows standing. Why you think that increasing the focus even more will solve anything is beyond me.

>>30629407
This is hasbro, they will never end the show as long as its making money. The show is more likely to go to season 15 than it is to end after season 8. The show will either begin to stagnate or the writers will have to do something new until it stops making money.

>They're have been on (not exaggerating) 50 episodes already, all either mediocre or just acceptable. There isn't a single CMC episode that fans consider to be within the top 20.

Crusade of the Lost Mark? Sleepless in Ponyville? Sisterhoof Social? Flight to the Finish? For Whom the Sweetie Belle toils? The Fault in our Cutie Mark? Even episodes where they play a major supporting role like Brotherhoof social. I've seen all of these episodes in people's top 20s multiple times. Considering there are only around 25 CMC episodes and ~100 mane 6 episodes, having that many top tiered episodes is an exceptional ratio.

>The CMC already got a huge chunk of the show for them, and that did nothing to improve the shows standing. Why you think that increasing the focus even more will solve anything is beyond me.

Because there is a lot of areas you could explore with their characters; the writers managed to turn what was originally supposed to be an annoying gag (the cutie mark crusades) into a very interesting growing up arc for the CMC and focusing on their quest to help other ponies and their every day lives growing up gives the writers a lot of opportunities to expand both their characters and the world of MLP.

I think the better question is, what do you find boring about their episodes? In later seasons, their episodes are written similarly to the mane 6 with the only differences being based on their characters.

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>>30629540
>what do you find boring about their episodes?
The CMC themselves. They have nothing going for them, being completely ordinary kids. Their only outlandish trait was the lack of cutie marks, which doesn't even apply anymore.

There are infinitely more interesting characters out there that never got the screentime that the CMC already got, and that have genuinely interesting stories to tell if they were just given a chance to shine. Unlike the CMC, they would put those dozens of episodes to good use.

>>30629619
Their characters are more unique versions of their older sisters. For example, Scootaloo may be a tomboy who likes extreme sports, but she is also the most cowardly/skittish of the three despite her best efforts to look tough. Apple Bloom is the leader of the CMC and a part of a very traditionalist family, but is both the most likely to panic or get frustrated when things go wrong and has consistently defied traditional norms for her family. Sweetie Belle is the most innocent and arguably the most rational of the three, but also has streaks of bratty behavior as seen in for whom the sweetie belle toils.

The important thing is that the despite having characters that are traditionally seen as unlikable (boasting coward, incompetent leader, bratty child), the writers do an exceptional job both highlighting the CMCs positive traits, punishing the CMC when they misbehave, and most importantly, having them put effort into fixing the problems they create.

>>30629377
Why.

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>>30621003
The Octavia and Vinyl pairing never made any sense and the fact they canonized it with the dreaded 100th episode is absolutely disgusting.

Also, I think shipping in general is cancerous.

>>30621003
Unpopular Opinions a go

>Enjoy PTS Videos
>Enjoy the identification of a brony and am slowly starting to expose powerlevels (in a non autistic way)
>Enjoy season 3, although acknowledge it was the worst. It was the worst at like 7/10 for me

>>30630552
>Enjoy season 3, although acknowledge it was the worst. It was the worst at like 7/10 for me

This

I do understand when an episode is bad, but I enjoy it anyway

I even liked Honest Apple

>>30621159
>features furries and god knows what abominations from out of nowhere.
>out of nowhere
Where you honestly expecting the outside world to be like 4chan and automatically label anything with animal features and human shaped bodies as cancer?
Were you honestly so retarded that you forgot that anthro characters and abominations have been with the franchise since G1?
Anyone with half a brain saw them putting in anthro characters in the movie from a mile away.

>>30631012
Retarded people who think that any movie is automatically connected to some internet community and it somehow matters at all are legitimately retarded.

>>30631012
t. furfag

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>>30621650
Interesting. The downward trend is pretty clear.

>>30631383
>Spike after the episode, then a decline
Dude are you retarded? Thats how all the finales and premieres are other than the first few.

Episode 100 was exactly what I wanted it to be, and couldn't have been done any better.

>>30631383
>>30631420
Also I wouldn't think google search results would be a good way to show the popularity of the show by now. Most people would just google their pony site of choice if they still haven't just bookmarked it by now.

>>30631383
>Notice how the premiere is a really popular episode
It doesn't fucking matter what mid-season episodes are present, the premieres and finales always have the most people.

>>30631383
Think thats more to do with season 6 being a pretty mediocre season compared to season 5.

>>30631383
>implying Glimmer is the only problem/factor of the decline
>remains mostly steady after S5 finale where she is redeemed and has the awkward transition

projecting is a sport here,it seems

Season 2 is the best season and nothing has topped it yet.
Rainbow Rocks is the only good EqG movie.

>>30629619
Why does this guy never reply to the people who makes strong points about the CMC?

>>30621003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sl9go6opo

>>30631861
Except every other seasons except 1 and 6.

"Tia" is a cringy nickname for Celestia

>>30636359
What's your opinion on Celly?

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>>30636382
It sounds more like Celestia. Tia sounds like a completely different character.

>>30636392

What if Celestia's just a pseudonym she took upon becoming an alicorn?

Glimmer will be the next alicorn princess.