Hey fags, me and a friend are going to binge watch seasons 3-7

>>30495992
>Anything we should keep in mind?
A bullet

>>30496000
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>>30495992
Season 6 is shit, you can skip it and nothing of value will be lost.

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>>30496005
ok

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>>30495992
Oh, ok

Thanks for the blog update you massive faggot

>>30495992
well the script writing changes quite a bit after season 3 imo for the better other than that so far season 7 they change it up again.

>>30495992
Drink heavily enough that you can't think coherently about what is happening except on an episode to episode basis, and then prepare for mild disappointment.

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>>30496014
that image

>>30496014
Season 6 is fine for the most part and you'll be missing some critical stuff if you skip it

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>>30496034
I've heard that the show pretty much goes downhill after S2, all I've seen from S3 is the babs seed garbage

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>>30496052
I find discarded pizzas very saddening. I don't know if it's because a lot of ingredients and work go into a pizza for it all to be a waste, or if it's because pizzas are associated with social gatherings and seeing it tossed aside is a symbol of social failure.

>>30496055
>critical stuff
That would be believable if at least the writers believed it. Dash becomes a Wonderbolt, and her achievement deserves less than a minute of the episode "hey, Dash, good to see you, you're a Wonderbolt now because reasons, well, bye." We have a whole episode telling us that changelings may look evil but they can be good, only to have that completely ignored in the last 20 seconds of the finale, "forget about it, good changelings actually look completely different than bad changelings." Starlight gets zero development, there's no difference whatsoever between they way she abuses her magic in ELTSD, and the way she does it in ARP, she keeps doing whatever she wants, the entire season could be skipped and you wouldn't miss a thing.
The only thing I can think of that was developed enough was the introduction of Ember, which deserved an entire episode. Other than that, that "critical stuff" is inexistent.

>>30496062
I recently came back and did the same thing as you except i had already seen s3.
Personally i wasn't disappointed and it pulled me back onto the ride.
There were quite a few boring episodes in s6 though.

>>30496224
>starlight gets 0 development
Are you fucking delusional?
In season 6 she
>is introduced as a reformed character for the first time
>reconciles with sunburst
>makes friends with trixie
>gains a great deal of confidence
>learns to confront her problems
>learns to lead
All of those things have been reflected in s7 except for the leadership.

>there's no difference in way she abuses magic between ARP and ELTSD
there's a world of difference.
In ELTSD she
>is extremely anxious about socialising
>refuses to tell anyone about it
>misses the point of social interaction
>panics and casts a spell in order to run away from it
>fails to empathise with the other characters due to her state of panic
>fucks everything up while completely missing the point of the lesson

Whereas in ARP she
>completely understands what she needs to do
>consults with twilight about it
>comes up with a level headed and reasonable plan (i must make them empathise with eachother)
>tackles it head on
>tries to make them talk it out between themselves
>that only makes it worse so she uses a more forceful hand
>what she does turns out to be exactly what was necessary and it resolves the problem

Literally everything else you said has returned in season 7 as well.

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>>30496630
>>completely understands what she needs to do
Are fucking you serious? This has to be bait. The rest of your post can be merely delusion, but I can't seriously believe that anyone can seriously think that she was "completely understanding what she needed to do" here. That's plainly false. She panicked here and solved everything with magic without thinking about it, exactly like she did in ELTSD, exactly like she did in All Bottled Up. She didn't learn anything at all since The Cutie Remark, she could have done the same shit in The Crystalling. Literally the only difference between this episode and all her previous episodes is that the exact same thing that was "bad" in every previous episode now is suddenly good. Which is as much as saying that she will never learn anything because they already decided that if Starlight can't change to be what the show considers "good", the show must change to consider her actions good.

>everything else you said has returned in season 7 as well
Of course it returned, my point is, all that "critical stuff" was ignored by the writers in season 6. Dash becoming a Wonderbolt or the changelings' transformation were events that came out of nowhere and deserved less than a minute of development in their respective episodes. If you hadn't watched season 6 and you saw that stuff referenced during season 7, you'd think "those things surely got an entire episode about it, like CoTLM", but that never happened. In fact, it's not even that those things didn't get their own episode, it's that Haber is such a shitty story editor that he managed to edit a season with an entire episode showing that black changelings can be good, only to ignore it and force a stupid transformation at the end of TWaBA without any justification whatsoever. A 20 second scene made an entire episode pointless.

You don't have to see en entire season for the key moments, if those key moments are just a couple of 20 second scenes without any fucking development.

>>30495992
>Anything we should keep in mind before watching?
ya, dont come back to /mlp/ until youre done.

>>30496738
Yea she does understand what she needed to do.
The princesses aren't seeing eye to eye, she knows she needs to find a way to make them empathize with each other.
When it doesn't work she stands up and firmly shouts "enough".
She was going with her gut not panicking a running away.

By the way she was clear headed in all bottled up, the lesson there was completely unrelated to magic (actually all the lessons are unrelated to magic because they are supposed to apply to real life) but this one is especially unrelated, not sure if you missed the metaphor in that ep.
In ELTSD she panics and settles on a solution that lies with her comfort zone (that is the reason they showed her using magic at the start of the episode, it's the one thing she's confident in)
Hardly a panicked snap decision, she's running away and puts together her spell in order to hide from her problem.

The rest is you complaining about the writers not giving enough attention to certain plot points within season 6 which has nothing to do with whether they are critical plot points that would confuse you if you skipped to season 7.

>>30496880
>Yea she does understand what she needed to do.
Bullshit. You literally can she that she doesn't know what she's doing in the scene I posted.

Your only argument is that she didn't run away this time, but that's not what I was talking about. I say that she always does exactly the same, because she always uses her magic to solve a problem without thinking about it twice. In ELTSD she didn't want to be with the other ponies, she uses the spell to get over it quicker without thinking about the consequences, in All Bottled Up she didn't want to confront Trixie, she uses the spell to bottle up her anger without thinking about the consequences, in A Royal Problem she can't solve the problem using friendship like in every other map episode, so she uses her magic again, without thinking about the consequences.

And the "b-but it worked this time!" argument is stupid. Not only it's stupid, it's maleficent. If I grabbed a gun, and I started shooting at random, and by sheer luck I killed an Al-Qaeda terrorist, that wouldn't make me a hero, that would make me a extraordinarily lucky crazy bastard. Starlight was exactly that in the episode, doing exactly the same that she always does and that never worked before, this time she was lucky and things worked out. Presenting an accident (that may as well have ended badly like every previous accident) as something to be proud is plainly retarded.

>they are critical plot points that would confuse you if you skipped to season 7.
Dash is a Wonderbolt, the changelings are now colorful instead of black, there, critical plot points explained in detail. If you watch season 7 after reading those two sentences, you'd know now exactly the same that you know watching season 6. Again, show Celestial Advice to anyone who hasn't watched season 6, and tell him "those are changelings." Literally whatever headcanon that that person could imagine to justify that transformation would be better than the literally nothing we got in TWaBA.

>>30496932
Dude she even says to twilight what the problem is and tells twilight what she intends to do what the fuck are you on about.
>She didn't run away this time
Yep, and that makes the way she uses her magic different.
>she always uses her magic to solve a problem
There's nothing wrong with that, other characters do it all the time with no problems.
>without thinking about it twice
But she does think about it in ELTSD and all bottled up, her solution is just wrong, her solution is wrong for a different reason each time by the way.
In ELTSD she's worried because she has no social skills and spending time with twilight's friends scares her.
In ABU she's worried because she thinks trixie will break up with her if she gets angry at her. The only consequences that came from that by the way, were the ones that trixie caused.
In ARP again, she knows what she needs to do, and desu what she does makes plenty of sense, what better way to make someone empathize with someone else than make them live a day in each other's shoes.

>"b-but it worked this time!" argument is stupid
That's precisely the point i'm making, the reason it is different this time is because
1. She has correctly identified the problem
2. She has attacked it head on instead of running away
3. Her solution is something that actually addresses the root problem, and that is no accident, it's a deliberate good decision by her.
Could she have asked their permission first? sure, i wish she did. maybe they didn't want to drag it out, i can't truly know but i still believe what i'm saying here.

>If you watch season 7 after reading those two sentences, you'd know now exactly the same that you know watching season 6
You wouldn't know how or why
>but you could explain that too
You could say that about literally any season.

>>30496975
>that makes the way she uses her magic different.
Again, I didn't say that she always runs away. That was never my argument. She wasn't running away at the beginning of The Cutie Map, yet she was already abusing her magic to solve her problems, exactly like she's still doing two seasons later.
>other characters do it all the time with no problems
I guess that's true if Lesson Zero is literally the only episode without Starlight that you have ever seen.
>her solution is wrong for a different reason each time by the way
You're calling "reasons" to her motivations, and her motivations are irrelevant to the point. Her solution is wrong because she uses magic without knowing what the outcome will be, and that never stops her. And that is indeed still the same every time.

>is no accident, it's a deliberate good decision by her
And again, it's not. That's false. That's literally a lie. Don't call it an accident if you don't want to, but it was exactly the same "I don't know how to solve this without magic, I'll use a random spell without asking anyone else, and hopefully it'll work this time." It wasn't more deliberate than her actions in ABU, and it was only good because it worked by sheer luck. An extraordinarily lucky crazy bastard shooting at random.

>You wouldn't know how or why
I swear that I watched TWaBA and I can't understand WHY they decided that good changelings must be colorful and completely different to evil changelings after an entire episode trying to convince us that evil-looking changelings can be good too. It doesn't make any fucking sense, and they didn't even try to explain it.

>>30497013
>You're calling "reasons" to her motivations
Please ignore this part, something got lost in translation here.

>>30496062
The show shifted more towards emotional drama about characters around S4. If you prefer S4 than S2, the show will get better for you. If it's the opposite, I think you should stop watching around S5 because the show will never turn back to earlier seasons.

Oh, and skip S6. S7 episodes literally takes time for exposition of what have changed during S6, so you won't miss anything unless you're into collecting pony reaction images.

>>30497013
You said
>there's no difference whatsoever between they way she abuses her magic in ELTSD, and the way she does it in ARP
That is why i'm pointing out these differences.
>I guess that's true if Lesson Zero is literally the only episode without Starlight that you have ever seen.
There's many episodes where twilight fixes something with magic, even as early as boast busters we see this, lesson zero is just an example of her magic backfiring.
there was nothing wrong with twilight using magic in that episode, what was wrong was her motivations and intent.

>her motivations are irrelevant to the point
You never know what the outcome will be when you enact a plan, the reason her motivations are relevant is because they effect her ability to make a good decision.
>It wasn't more deliberate than her actions in ABU
No, but the only thing wrong with her actions in ABU is that is she is hiding her emotions, not that she uses a magical solution to help her do it. Motivation and intent is entirely relevant there because it governs whether or not you're making a good decision, again she understands the problem.

>I swear that I watched TWaBA and I can't understand WHY they decided that good changelings must be colorful and completely different to evil changelings
I don't really care to defend this honestly, S6 had a lot of garbage in it.
However, we do have an episode coming up about a changeling that has refused to change his ways, and i assume that is even after the transformation.

>>30497062
>That is why i'm pointing out these differences.
But of course if the circumstances are different there will be differences. It still doesn't change the fact that she uses magic abuse as her only way to solve problems, it doesn't change the fact that she does it on her own, without considering what the consequences will be.
>There's many episodes where twilight fixes something with magic
You said "all the time." She didn't use magic to solve the conflict in episodes like Feeling Pinkie Keen, Over a Barrel, Luna Eclipsed, or many other episodes. Starlight uses it all the time, her entire persona is repeating Lesson Zero again and again and again.

>they effect her ability to make a good decision
It wasn't a good decision. It was the exact same decision, except this time it worked for no reason. The fact that it worked doesn't make it a good decision.
>the only thing wrong with her actions in ABU is that is she is hiding her emotions, not that she uses a magical solution to help her do it
Here you're considering that the moral is the only part of an episode, and it's not. The moral was that she shouldn't hide her feelings, and that's completely unrelated to magic. But her characterization was still the same, we see her using her magic to solve a problem, and that's no different to any of the other episodes. It's unrelated to the moral, and that's why the episode doesn't present it as "wrong", but it's still bad characterization.
Dear God, I want to see her doing something else. We keep on seeing her doing the same, different things happen as a result of her actions and that gives the illusion of development, but it's the show what changes, she's doesn't change.

>we do have an episode coming up about a changeling that has refused to change his ways
Yeah, well, that's very related to what I was saying. I'm really looking forward to that episode, but if we get now an episode "explaining" at last something that happened in s6, then s6 wasn't really needed.

>>30497129
>uses magic abuse as her only way to solve problems
Using magic is not abuse, it's part of being a unicorn, and again, she does consider the consequences, it's just that her assessment of the situation is wrong.
>Starlight uses it all the time, her entire persona is repeating Lesson Zero again and again and again.
There was no magic use involved in the conflict or resolution of the crystalling, to where and back again, no second prances, or rock solid friendship if you consider that a starlight episode. That's the majority.

>It wasn't a good decision. It was the exact same decision, except this time it worked for no reason.
It was a good decision because she knew they needed to empathize with each other and she uses magic to make them do it, in ELTSD she makes a bad decision because she's afraid of spending time with the m5, and she uses magic to run and hide, even if she did the same thing without magic it still would have been a bad decision. do you see the difference? if ARP was the same as ELTSD she would have just panicked at being sent on the map mission and cast a spell to avoid having to deal with it. and or incorrectly identified the problem between luna and celestia.

The moral ties into what she has done wrong, which doesn't include using magic, if you think using magic is a boring way to set up conflict then fair enough but as i said before, the majority of her episodes aren't about her using magic.

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>>30496052
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>>30495992
Op you need to replace your fucking pans before the scratched teflon gives you cancer

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>>30495992
Be advised, starting from S5 you'll have to put up with a cancerous mary sue that will steal the spotlight in every two-parter and in a lot of otherwise interesting/long awaited episodes too.
I'd suggest you simply skip those episodes, but unfortunately they are quite a lot at this point.

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>>30497584
Mary Sue, eh? How bad could it possibly be?

>>30497604
OP as fuck, offscreen development, can do no wrong and even when she does it's ok because she's trying. Shit backstory, everyone else's IQ is dropped to one digit in order to make her appear good. Gets paired with fandom-loved characters to make you like her by proxy.
That sort of things. But by all means watch everything and see for yourself.