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>Season with Gauntlet of Fire, No Second Prances, The Saddle

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>Season with Gauntlet of Fire, No Second Prances, The Saddle Row Review, Spice Up Your Life, Stranger Than Fan Fiction, The Times They Are A Changeling, Buckball Season, The Fault In Our Cutie Marks, PPOV, Where the Apple Lies, Top Bolt, and To Where and Back Again all in one season is considered "bad"
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>>30447914
>Gauntlet of Fire
>No Second Prances
>Spice up Your Life
>Stranger Than Fan Fiction
>The Times They Are A Changeling
>Buckball Season
>PPOV
>Where the Apple Lies
>Top Bolt
>"good"
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>>30447914
>Saddle Row Review
>good
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>>30447914
>watching the show
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>>30447923
Name a better adventure MLP episode than Gauntlet of Fire
>>30447924
SRR was literally funnier than most of S1 combined
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>>30447914
>>30447923
>>30447924
look at the monster you have created, people
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>>30447914
Yeah I never got the hate for Season 6 or understood how Legend of Everfree was better.
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>>30447927
Take your screencap and fuck off already, reddit.
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>>30447930
>le ebin S1 is boring maymay
You're worse than fans of the fandom, fucking bandwagoner.
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>>30447930
>Name a better adventure MLP episode than Gauntlet of Fire
Anything in S1 or S2.
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>>30447942
He didnt say that, just that it was a good adventure episode, and one outside a finale too. Not only that, a good Spike episode. It hit a lot of areas people wanted to see.
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>>30447966
>spike episode
>good
>at all
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>>30447952
>Baby Cakes
>Pinkie Pie babysits a bunch of toddlers
now what a fucking adventure
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>>30447966
>he didn't say that, he said [completely unrelated shit]
Yeah sure why not.
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>>30447970
It was amazing. Stop falling for Friendship is Witchcraft memes.
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>>30447984
As >>30447930 , I can confirm that I indeed do not consider the majority of S1 boring, but it had little to no adventure episodes.
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>>30447992
Oh shit nigga, a SOL show has SOL episodes. OUTRAGEOUS!
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>>30448007
Faust always wanted more adventure.
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>>30448010
>the show became what Faust originally wanted after Faust left
>source: my ass
K.
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>>30448007
>fantasy setting
>they should tell SOL stories ONLY and nothing else EVER
This would be a huge wasted opportunity.
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>>30448106
Telling SOL stories has actually made it more likely that they'll fuck up the setting
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>>30447933
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6 was okay. Didn't really energize me.

Not outright bad like 3 but it left something to be desired.
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>>30447924
Eat shit, it was fucking perfect!
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>>30447930
>>30448160
>meme episode
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>>30447914
But stranger then fan fiction and fault in our cutie marks were fucking terrible.
granted fault in our cutie marks was not as bad as I expected but it was still bad.

Where the apple lies also only existed to help retcon away all applejacks lies.
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I liked some of these, but did you really have to add Gauntlet of fire, Spice up your life and the fucking finale?
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>>30448419
Name 1 (one) meme from that episode.
>>30448762
Wow such constructive criticism anon, surely now everyone understands your opinion and your reasons for it.
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>>30448769
Spice up your life had a great moral. We think of critics as if they're always "right" and that we should always follow their opinions when in reality, even critics are bound to subjective opinions and blindly following them can result in narrow-mindedness.
Also finale made more sense than Canterlot Wedding at least.
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>>30448824
>we think of critics
who is that 'we' you talk about?
It was retarded, I'm sorry Anon.
Rarara is a fucking artist, and they threw all that to the trash to make her some snobby retarded noble that like shit even if it's shit because other nobles like it
I believe she learnt that lesson a long time ago

And a 'good morale' doesn't make an episode good if you have to assassinate your characters just to do it

>finale
Oh it made sense, I'm not debating that
It was still shit tho
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>>30448885
Are you one of those Tumblrites who hated that Rarity wasn't totally completely perfect?
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>>30448916
Wouldn't tumblrinas hate perfection?
I was off the ride back when Spice up your life aired so I have no idea if there were dramas about it
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>>30448885
>Rarara is a fucking artist, and they threw all that to the trash to make her some snobby retarded noble that like shit even if it's shit because other nobles like it
You won't believe how many artists have that attitude. Well, it's not exactly what you're describing, neither was the case at the episode. She was simply stating that being special doesn't necessarily make you popular and it's safer to go with what everybody approves of. I mean, look at what people thought of Batman v Superman and then look at what people thought of Marvel movies And she was right, the only reason the restaurant became popular was her promotion.
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>>30448953
They got mad that there were "Indian stereotypes" and that Rarity wasn't perfect. They always loved Rarity because she was like, everything they want a female character to be.
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>>30448959
>S5E14; Canterlot boutique
>Rarara learns not to trust that tall bitch and also that her artistic integrity is worth more than anything else, even if all the ponies want her retarded Princess dresses
>S6e12; rarara actually didn't learn shit and is back to being stupid
yeah, nah
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>>30449029
Cooking food is very different than making dresses you know.
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>>30449029
Once again, not the same thing. Making dresses is Rarity's job so of course she would treat it more seriously than she would something she doesn't specialize in. That constantly happens in real life, you know.
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>>30449164
How?
We're talking about identities here
Her dresses are her dresses. She loves them because she made them. They're all different, they all have their own stories and soul.

What's the difference between forcing her to make the same dress again and again and forcing them to do the exact same shit the other restaurants serves again and again, Anon?
We're not talking about your frozen pizzas here, Anon.
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>>30447982
>show needs to be "adventurous" to be entertaining
Take a good look at what you've created Mike.
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>>30449195
>rarara is a retard Anon, of course she wouldn't be mature enough to put herself in another pony's boots for a second before giving retarded advices
>it's not like she's been the voice of reason of the M6 for this kind of shit, with AJ, since the start
dyewts
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>>30449221
It's easy to judge and flag when these are characters in a TV show, and you're watching it in your comfy armchair. But in reality, most people have such hypocritical traits in them, and that does not make them retarded. I'm pretty sure you have those, too. Say, you're good at physics, and you go watch a movie and see that it has some very fucked up physics that shatter your suspension of disbelief and you're upset about it. However, you might be not good at, say, history, and not notice that for somebody else, the movie shattered their suspension of disbelief long ago by being terribly historically inaccurate. Are you retard for not being an expert in everything?
>it's not like she's been the voice of reason of the M6 for this kind of shit, with AJ, since the start
And this is not even an argument. I heard a shitload of opinions who was "the voice of reason". Some said it was Spike, some said it was Twilight, some said it was fucking Pinkie, so I'm pretty sure nobody was the definitive voice of reason.
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>>30449241
>physics example
I fail to understand your point, Anon
This has nothing to do with hypocrisy, it's literally not knowing about X and thus not bitching about it, but bitching about Y because you understand Y
Where's the hypocrisy in that?

And we're not talking about advanced stuff that needs education, Anon.
We're talking about food. She herself said she hated what was served in the other restaurants, and then said that what the pooinloo served tasted great.
This is literally a case of 'Oh yeah, I know your food is great and theirs is shit, but you still need to make that shit if you want to succeed, even if that would be throwing your entire identity to the trash and sell your soul to the devil. I myself didn't do it because I'm an artist and found out that would make me miserable and kill myself, but you should totally give it a try!'
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>>30449270
>This has nothing to do with hypocrisy, it's literally not knowing about X and thus not bitching about it, but bitching about Y because you understand Y Where's the hypocrisy in that?
Because the movie has flaws in both regards, but you're only seeing the flaws in one regard, all the while some of your favourite movies could have flaws in the other regard but you wouldn't care for their flaws, making you biased. That's so natural to us that you don't even see the hypocrisy of it.
>This is literally a case of 'Oh yeah, I know your food is great and theirs is shit, but you still need to make that shit if you want to succeed, even if that would be throwing your entire identity to the trash and sell your soul to the devil. I myself didn't do it because I'm an artist and found out that would make me miserable and kill myself, but you should totally give it a try!'
You're flagging again. The other restaurants' food was shit to her, but not shit to the people of Canterlot. She thought that in order to become popular, it would be more reasonable to make something that people actually like than something they're not interested in. Keep in mind that making them popular was her primary goal, all the while back when she chose to make dresses that she liked she was ready to lose her popularity.
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>>30449325
>but the movie has flaws
Yes, but it's not hypocrisy if you don't know of/understand the other flaws, silly
Hypocrisy would be to understand both and only citing the one you don't like.
Still fail to see why you're comparing that to the episode tho.

>But not to the people of Canterlot
Oh yeah, that's why they all started to cheer and all the chefs started to say 'fuck yeah I'm gonna make donuts again' and whatnot
Totally not because they wanted to make those from the start and were forced by that retard, nuh-huh

>in order to make them popular they'd have to do the exact thing she rejected to do herself in order to find clients
So you're saying I'm right and that she didn't learn her lesson?
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>>30449386
>Oh yeah, that's why they all started to cheer and all the chefs started to say 'fuck yeah I'm gonna make donuts again' and whatnot Totally not because they wanted to make those from the start and were forced by that retard, nuh-huh
It's possible to like more than one type of food anon.
>So you're saying I'm right and that she didn't learn her lesson?
That was not even her decision, she thought the map sent her to make the restaurant popular and she was doing her job
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>>30447914
Most of those episodes are completely forgettable
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>>30447914
Beside the Gauntlet of Fire all of them are he most generic "by the book" shitty mundane episodes. Thank god someone fired Haber and let Songco And Lewis do the series. It almost felt like i was watchin Equestria Girls but ponified.
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>>30447914
>PPOV
>anything above godawful
The actual worst episode of all time, lazy and tired premise, character butchering and bullshit deus ex machina-esque reveal at the end. Such a load of shit.
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>>30447914
>Everyone loses their mind because OP called Gauntlet of Fire good
>no one bats an eye over ppov being called good
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>>30447924
you had to pick the one episode in all of the faggot OP's list that was good
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>>30447914
PPOV, spice up your life and the fault in our cutie marks were complete garbage
buckball season was comfy tho
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time to go turbo autism and rate every episode of every season
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>>30448824
>Spice up your life had a great moral. We think of critics as if they're always "right" and that we should always follow their opinions when in reality, even critics are bound to subjective opinions and blindly following them can result in narrow-mindedness.
Didn't we already had that moral in S1?
Suited For Success?
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>>30447952
>S1
>adventure
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>>30449817
>RATING SYSTEM:
1/10 - irredeemable
2/10 - atrocious
3/10 - awful
4/10 - bad
5/10 - meh
6/10 - watchable
7/10 - entertaining
8/10 - good
9/10 - great
10/10 - amazing

>S1E01
6/10
>S1E02
7/10
>S1E03
6/10
>S1E04
6/10
>S1E05
8/10
>S1E06
7/10
>S1E07
9/10
>S1E08
7/10
>S1E09
9/10
>S1E10
10/10
>S1E11
9/10
>S1E12
5/10
>S1E13
7/10
>S1E14
10/10
>S1E15
6/10
>S1E16
10/10
>S1E17
8/10
>S1E18
5/10
>S1E19
6/10
>S1E20
8/10
>S1E21
4/10
>S1E22
6/10
>S1E23
7/10
>S1E24
4/10
>S1E25
10/10
>S1E26
10/10

SEASON 1 OVERALL: 7.3/10
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>>30448783
>Wow such constructive criticism anon
Gabby is a stupid mary sue and daring do is real is a mistake that should have been kept in the past.
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>>30450011
Are you watching the episodes or just rating them with the title?
If it's the latter, that is not only artistic but also retarded.
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>>30450011
>RATING SYSTEM:
1/10 - irredeemable
2/10 - atrocious
3/10 - awful
4/10 - bad
5/10 - meh
6/10 - watchable
7/10 - entertaining
8/10 - good
9/10 - great
10/10 - amazing

>S2E01
8/10
>S2E02
9/10
>S2E03
8/10
>S2E04
8/10
>S2E05
6/10
>S2E06
5/10
>S2E07
9/10
>S2E08
4/10
>S2E09
7/10
>S2E10
5/10
>S2E11
7/10
>S2E12
6/10
>S2E13
5/10
>S2E14
9/10
>S2E15
8/10
>S2E16
7/10
>S2E17
4/10
>S2E18
6/10
>S2E19
8/10
>S2E20
8/10
>S2E21
6/10
>S2E22
8/10
>S2E23
5/10
>S2E24
5/10
>S2E25
7/10
>S2E26
8/10

SEASON 2 OVERALL: 6.8/10
S1>S2

>>30450054
I'm rating each and every episode based on the actual episode, of course. I'm just serving up my hot opinions, mostly because I'm curious on how they rank overall.
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>>30450164
>RATING SYSTEM:
1/10 - irredeemable
2/10 - atrocious
3/10 - awful
4/10 - bad
5/10 - meh
6/10 - watchable
7/10 - entertaining
8/10 - good
9/10 - great
10/10 - amazing

>S3E01
7/10
>S3E02
7/10
>S3E03
6/10
>S3E04
6/10
>S3E05
7/10
>S3E06
7/10
>S3E07
8/10
>S3E08
4/10
>S3E09
3/10
>S3E10
5/10
>S3E11
4/10
>S3E12
3/10
>S3E13
5/10

SEASON 3 OVERALL: 5.5/10
S1>S2>S3
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>>30450225
go on cunt
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>>30450467
sorry, currently playing some vidya. will be back on track shortly
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>>30450225
>RATING SYSTEM:
1/10 - irredeemable
2/10 - atrocious
3/10 - awful
4/10 - bad
5/10 - meh
6/10 - watchable
7/10 - entertaining
8/10 - good
9/10 - great
10/10 - amazing

>S4E01
8/10
>S4E02
8/10
>S4E03
7/10
>S4E04
5/10
>S4E05
7/10
>S4E06
7/10
>S4E07
8/10
>S4E08
7/10
>S4E09
7/10
>S4E10
5/10
>S4E11
8/10
>S4E12
9/10
>S4E13
5/10
>S4E14
6/10 (Filli Vanilli is one of the most conflicting episodes for me)
>S4E15
5/10
>S4E16
5/10
>S4E17
5/10
>S4E18
9/10
>S4E19
4/10
>S4E20
7/10
>S4E21
10/10
>S4E22
6/10
>S4E23
7/10
>S4E24
4/10
>S4E25
8/10
>S4E26
9/10

SEASON 4 OVERALL: 6.8/10
S1>S2=S4>S3
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>>30451170
>RATING SYSTEM:
1/10 - irredeemable
2/10 - atrocious
3/10 - awful
4/10 - bad
5/10 - meh
6/10 - watchable
7/10 - entertaining
8/10 - good
9/10 - great
10/10 - amazing

>S5E01
8/10
>S5E02
8/10
>S5E03
7/10
>S5E04
7/10
>S5E05
5/10
>S5E06
6/10
>S5E07
5/10
>S5E08
7/10
>S5E09
2/10
>S5E10
4/10
>S5E11
5/10
>S5E12
6/10
>S5E13
6/10
>S5E14
7/10
>S5E15
7/10
>S5E16
5/10
>S5E17
4/10
>S5E18
6/10
>S5E19
5/10
>S5E20
6/10
>S5E21
7/10
>S5E22
8/10
>S5E23
5/10
>S5E24
7/10
>S5E25
8/10
>S5E26
8/10

SEASON 5 OVERALL: 6.1/10
S1>S2=S4>S5>S3
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To Where and Back Again is the second worst finale.
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>>30451248
>RATING SYSTEM:
1/10 - irredeemable
2/10 - atrocious
3/10 - awful
4/10 - bad
5/10 - meh
6/10 - watchable
7/10 - entertaining
8/10 - good
9/10 - great
10/10 - amazing

>S6E01
6/10
>S6E02
6/10
>S6E03
7/10
>S6E04
7/10
>S6E05
6/10
>S6E06
7/10
>S6E07
4/10
>S6E08
6/10
>S6E09
8/10
>S6E10
5/10
>S6E11
5/10
>S6E12
5/10
>S6E13
4/10
>S6E14
4/10
>S6E15
4/10
>S6E16
6/10
>S6E17
6/10
>S6E18
5/10
>S6E19
6/10
>S6E20
6/10
>S6E21
7/10
>S6E22
6/10
>S6E23
5/10
>S6E24
6/10
>S6E25
7/10
>S6E26
7/10

SEASON 6 OVERALL: 5.8/10
S1>S2=S4>S5>S6>S3
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>>30451326
>RATING SYSTEM:
1/10 - irredeemable
2/10 - atrocious
3/10 - awful
4/10 - bad
5/10 - meh
6/10 - watchable
7/10 - entertaining
8/10 - good
9/10 - great
10/10 - amazing

>S7E01
6/10
>S7E02
7/10
>S7E03
4/10
>S7E04
5/10
>S7E05
5/10
>S7E06
5/10
>S7E07
5/10
>S7E08
4/10
>S7E09
4/10
>S7E10
8/10
>S7E11
6/10
>S7E12
7/10
>S7E13
8/10

SEASON 7 SO FAR: 5.7/10
S1>S2=S4>S5>S6>S7(PENDING)>S3

And that's my autism ratings for horse show. We still have half a season to go, so I'm interested in where S7 will eventually fall.
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>>30451259
TWaBA's redeeming qualities were in the character interactions between everybody, primarily Discord and Trixie.
Discord's line about them being secondary characters had me in stitches.

Everything after Chryssalis's reveal in the Hive ruined it totally and the season as a whole
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>>30450011
>>30450164
>>30450225
>>30451170
>>30451248
>>30451326
>>30451384
To respond to the OP, season 5 was not bad. Season 5 was, "meh, it's kind of watchable." Which doesn't exactly get the fans riled up to sing the praises.
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>>30451459
Fuck, I meant season 6.
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>>30451384
I can't agree with any of this. S1 was the most boring season out there. Yeah, it is going to sound weird and stupid, but S1 and S2 feel like a children's show, like for 4 year old girls who need to be taught friendship during daycare. That's why I love S4-S6, the show went from friendship lessons to a cartoon featuring ponies and their life/adventures. Like the dream seqeuence episode, Dungeons and Discord, and the Saddle Row review, those episodes are top tier imho, but the S1 premiere two-parter was terrible and nearly unwatchable for me.

I haven't started S7 yet, and if it's anything like S6 I know I'll like it. I don't know if it changes much, but I binged the show from S1-S5 when S5 first ended. So I didn't "grow up" with the show over time, I saw all characterization in about a week's worth of time, so I never had a chance to obtain such a strong bond for the Faust-Era of the show, however as I grew fond of the characters I was able to enjoy their life style itself, so naturally I prefer to see my favorite characters doing something interesting instead of seeing them teach friendship lessons. Yeah it's not how the show originally was about, but that doesn't mean it's bad, it's just change, might be unnecessary, but again, doesn't mean bad. R8 my opinion if anything, I'm up for discussion.
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I didn't care for The Saddle Row Review. I mean, it was funny, but it didn't really feel like Pony to me. Now I'm not one of those Season 1 is only good season idiots, but TSRR felt more like an episode of Parks and Recreation than MLP. The episode was too self-aware and funny in all the wrong ways because of it.
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>>30451478
Season 1 and 2 only seems boring because the ponies actually talk to and interact with each other like actual individuals instead of screaming retarded TV characters.
This is the essential difference between people who prefer season 1 to later seasons and everyone else: They prefer slow paced pony life to "adventure" (read lasers and unicorn magic).
Basically it's a question of whether you would rather have your ponies sit down and enjoy pony life and make you think about Equestria, or whether you prefer to think of the characters of the show like gladiators in Nero's arena who need to earn a thumbs up.
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>>30451620
Saddle Row Review felt like a mashup of short skits than an episode for me.
The worst part for me about that episode is that it completely raped Canterlot Boutique.
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>>30451641
>Season 1 and 2 only seems boring because the ponies actually talk to and interact with each other like actual individuals
Not only that but the voice acting isn't defined and the script is much more child-like. I personally can't watch a show like that, it feels like an in-between of nick and nickJr. S1/2 are normal days and special events which focus on the theme of friendship, the other seasons are special/rare days that focus on entertainment that a wider audience can enjoy.

I do get opinions, obviously as I'm sharing my own, but I find it hard how someone can sit through most of S1 and actually be entertained. I would actually compare it to Barney in the sense that it's so much more geared towards little children than the later seasons. I'm not saying they were bad, but the quality in both script and story are very different; not in terms of "good or bad" but the substance and message that is given to the viewer.
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>>30447924
pick both
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>>30451677
Just got done rewatching it, for the first time since I saw it. I liked it better this time around, but I still agree with my first post.

Been a long time since I saw Canterlot Boutique, but I liked that episode. How did TSSR rape it?
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>>30451478
I don't know when you joined but the
>I binged the show from S1-S5 when S5 first ended
changes ALOT
Your perspective goes to from mos that remember the golden age of S1-S2 to an overview of what's gone by. Your view is more like the newfags than the oldfags, these terms in context to the fandom, with Oldfags being Pre-Twilicorn and newfags Post-twilicorn.
I can't seem to find it, but I know some one must have that graph of posts per month where February 2013 was fucking insane because Twilicorn, Faust, and Scruffening, if I remember the timing correctly.
You missed out on the fandom changing events, but that is not necessarily a bad thing, despite what the oldfags say.
I remember the Twilicorn threads that year, but I was never fueled with the heated rage of those threads, yet not defending Twilicorn. Similarly with EqG which divides this board (not the fandom mind you, only autists on here really want to deny and keep the idea "Pure" (hi /mlpol/ mindset).
Pic related, /mlp/ island around 2013-2014 I'd say. 4 years and the doompaulers still haven't won.
I type all this just to normalize everyone's hot opinions, because anon shouldn't have too type
>Yeah, it is going to sound weird and stupid
Because I hope we can have a better level of discussion, an over all more humanity, by thinking about where opinions come from.
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>>30451641
>or whether you prefer to think of the characters of the show like gladiators in Nero's arena who need to earn a thumbs up
well Hearth's Warming kinda made their entire world this except instead of fight or die it's "YOU ALL MUST BE FRIENDS OR EVERYBODY DIES"
and that was established in Season 2
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>>30447914

>Gauntlet of Fire
"Hey, let's ignore any meaningful lore on dragons to further push a retarded stereotype and have the ponies evangelize friendship to another race!"
>No Second Prances
"Hey, let's ignore that Trixie apologize in her last appearance and have Twilight be a colossal raging cunt so Jesus Glimmer can appear the rational one!"
>Spice Up Your Life
No actual complaints about this one. It worked pretty well, and Saffron Masala a QT.
>The Saddle Row Review
"Hey, let's insert more generic Americana gags. Because real-life analogies are funny, amirite!"
>Stranger Than Fan Fiction
"Hey, remember how we fucked up the meaning of Daring Do as a fantasy of the reader? Well now let's go further and tell fans that if they prefer a certain interpretation, they're assholes too!"
>The Times They Are A Changeling
Because singing a song makes everyone believe an enemy of the state has changed their colors, even people who have personally and viciously been attacked by said enemy.
>Buckball Season
Generic overenthusiastic trainer episode
>PPOV
It tried, I'll give it that. Fell down at the end, though, and the end was kind of the linchpin of this episode.
>Where the Apple Lies
"Hey, you know this strong silent character? That might be interesting, better retcon a shitty backstory in to prevent that."
>Top Bolt
Genuinely only 100% good episode on this list. Story worked, characters worked, everything worked, nobody was forced to carry the idiot ball or be a jerk. Felt like an S1/2 episode.
>To Where and Back Again
Worfing again followed by retarded villains telling the heroes followed by Discord not using his power for any reason followed by lazy plot shortcuts to excuse no magic followed by deus ex machina from a character introduced literally one episode before and draining the Changelings of everything that made them good.

OP, there's exactly two episodes here I can call good. Two. That is it.
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>>30451776
Twilicorn, Faust, EQG hate-hype, and all that doom-and-gloom was a real crotchkick
Honestly speaking I left the show for a few years after S3 ended
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>>30451478
That anon responding. R8 your opinion? It's shit/10. Let me explain why.

The reason why FiM was good was because it was intended for young children, particularly young girls, and was still GOOD. It wasn't phoned in, it didn't belittle little girls, and it didn't make you want to kill yourself. It had heart, tons of heart, real characters, a real fantasy world, and real lessons with impact for everyone, especially children.

Children's entertainment should be made for children. Children need to be taught lessons about interpersonal communication skills. Children should experience fun TV that makes them laugh that they remember fondly as adults. What we watch as kids shapes who we are as adults.

But children, especially young girls, shouldn't be shielded from being shown conflict. They shouldn't be shielded from complex, relatable, and interesting characters with flaws. They shouldn't be shielded from adventures, magic destinies, or open fantasy worlds that get their creativity flowing. And that's exactly what FiM set out to do.

I watched this show mainly because it was the kind of show I wish I got as a little girl. It resonated with me. I watched it because it wasn't made for me, because shows that /are/ made for me typically don't interest me.

Now it's just depressingly mediocre. The world's fantasy is squelched in the name of "establishing the world for the fans," the characters don't learn lessons because that's "boring," and there's fight scenes to make sure it "appeals to boys too," which of course assumes little girls don't want (or deserve) fight scenes.

I don't have problems with changing the status quo, and season 1 wasn't perfect. But they should have never lost sight of writing FOR GIRLS, and believing that girls deserve good cartoons too, instead of worrying about now writing "for boys," falling into the very dichotomy Lauren designed FiM to escape.
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>>30448824
> critics are bad and criticism is wrong

That's nice, Jim.
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>>30451904
I understand where you're coming from. I very much see your point, as the show once stood, it was probably the best show that was directed for the "young child" target audience. It did that very well and the compelling characters enticed me, but the story and interaction(via environment and plot, not merely character and lessons) kept me the most. Also taking into account what >>30451776 said, if you had prolonged exposure to the show during the Faust-era then it makes sense the new style wouldn't suit your needs.

In the end none of our opinions really matter to anyone but ourselves, however the fact that someone could explore your opinion and open a viewpoint to you and detail their opinion while simultaneously suggesting theirs and challenging your own definitely provokes discussion value and peaks interest, therefore I'm glad to have had this discussion.
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>>30451771
It's really personal.
I loved the message behind Canterlot Boutique about following one's lifetime dream and Rarity's passion, conflicts and struggle toward her dream and dress making.
And S6 turned the it into just a Rarity's job to make two episodes in S6 which was Maud episode and SRR.
It just felt like all the progress until S5 was wasted in S6 imo.
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>>30452220
You write a little weird m8, but yeah, glad you see where I'm coming from. I'm just waiting for the sweet embrace of death at this point fampai.
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>>30450011
>giving more than 7 to TBNE
You are a faggot, anonymous.
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>>30451880
And look at this retard here being retarded. Every single episode in MLP (or any show, really) can be picked apart in this fashion. Especially the Season 1-2 episodes.
You are being so much of a nostalgic degenerate it's disgusting. And that's coming from someone who considers S2 to be the best one.
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>>30449870
Uh, no? It was actually the complete opposite of it?
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>>30450046
>daring do is real is a mistake that should have been kept in the past.
That's typical "muh headcanon is ruined" whining
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>>30450011
>>30450011
>>S1E14
>10/10
>an episode where Ingram literally STOLE 75% of the song
>10/10
I mean I like the episode too but this is fucking ridiculous, no episode with a ripped off song deserves that much
also
>>30451384
>S7E07
>5/10
absolute fucking madman
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>>30451259
You're absolutely wrong.
Return of Harmony > S5 opener > S4 opener > Crystal Empire > To Where And Back Again > Canterlot Wedding > Twilight's Kingdom > Cutie Re-Mark > Friendship is Magic > S6 opener
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>>30451384
>And that's my autism ratings for horse show
well my good sir, i believe you have an atrocious opinion but ill defend to the death your right to have it.
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>>30453158
That's a rare thing to read here
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>>30452984
Fight me, TBNE was amazing. It had me rolling the entire time. Princess Celestia's "run" still gets me in stitches.

>>30453099
Suited for Success was amazing. I don't care that the song was stolen/borrowed/what have you, it still rocked my socks off and the episode was hilarious and touching. "Give her time," Jesus that line just catches me off guard.

Also, are you saying my rating on Parental Glideance is too low or too high? I honestly can't tell.
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>>30453647
Backing this faggot up. TBNE was a great sendup of high society and stereotypical fairytail "balls" all while remaining funny.
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Why do people dislike Gauntlet of Fire? I thought it was one of the best episodes.
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>>30453812
Maybe because it wasn't about ponies technically?
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>>30453825
It was about ponies, but it was also about their world and the other creatures that live in it, which deserve to be fleshed out more. Ponies were still there, and they were relevant.
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>>30447914
I unironically enjoyed nearly every episode of MLP I have ever watched.
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>>30453840
Same
Feels good man
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>>30453647
>>30453656
TBNE makes a good episode - that's all it does. Getting it as a finale was a huge slap in the face that almost entirely stopped me from continuing watching ponies (I took a year and a half break from them).
While I had never argued against TBNE being a good episode on its own, it's the absolutely worst season finale this show ever had and I have huge troubles objectively judging a garbage finale that's happen to be a good episode.
TBNE does fucking nothing to conclude the season and all the meme arguments about it being "comfy with no baddies but all the mane 6" are made by the same faggots who say Season 4 opener was stupid, boring, and pointless.
And even the whole "it concludes the Gala story arc" thing gets shat all over due to characters throwing a whole season of development out of the window to conclude the said arc.

The bottom line is: TBNE is a great episode and could've worked wonderfully were it be it placed somewhere mid-season, but as a finale it is shit.
Party Of One would've made a better finale without being a good finale material either.

Of course, I'm being a faggot here too - TBNE is at least 8/10 material, but I absolutely despise the unconditional love TBNE gets from /mlp/ due to the vast majority of it being bandwagoning, nostaligiafagging, and memeing that come not from watching and enjoying the show on its own but rather from getting their opinion formed for them by the community on its own.
I've got multiple people to willingly start watching ponies without getting in touch with the community - all of them did not magically end up orgasming all over the TBNE and hating MMC and EQG. (One of them somehow did not care much about Canterlot Wedding - the objectively best season finale this show ever had - what a faggot he is!)

Also, I don't know why am I venting here, I love /mlp/, but not its bandwagons.

t. "The only bad episodes this show had are Crystal Empire and even they are good and deserve rewatching" anon
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>>30453940
M8, I don't know how you did it, but you manged to out sperg everyone in this thread. Congratulations.

Also, Twilight's Kingdom was the best two-parter finale.
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>>30451880

This entire post just REEKS of "look how smart I am!"

Something happens that is even remotely similar to something that happened in some other shows? Call it generic!

Characterization has changed over time from past seasons? Call it "lazy" and take it as a personal insult to your obviously superior intelligence!

Humor is quick and witty and people seem to enjoy it? Put on that frowny face and cross your arms over your chest while you call the jokes "gags" and insist that the ones having fun are just too stupid to understand good humor!

And good lord almighty, your assessment of Stranger Than Fan Fiction is the literal exact opposite of what the episode was about.

Whatever, dude.
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dungeons and discords is the best episode in the entire series
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>>30454260
That's not "Party Of One" and neither it's "Pinkie Pride", thus you're wrong.
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>>30454063
People ignored Stranger Than Fan Fiction's lesson because people are still upset Daring Do is real within the show.
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>>30448419
Not an argument
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>>30447930
Thread winner. I could watch SRR anytime.

STFF was great just for having Patton Oswalt VA a pony who was made to demonstrate what a bunch of twats S1 worshippers are.

TW&BA was a great finale too.
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>>30451641
>Season 1 and 2 only seems boring because the ponies actually talk to and interact with each other like actual individuals instead of screaming retarded TV characters.

WTF are you talking about?
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>>30451904
>the characters don't learn lessons because that's "boring,"

WTF are you talking about?
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>>30453840
Ditto.

>>30453940
I actually kind of agree with most of what you said, except that nonsense about CW. CW was bad. Not terrible, but bad.
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>>30454063
Unfortunately this describes much this stupid board.
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