he'll come back after he's done with his book

>>30386298

he'll come back for the final season in 2020

>>30386303
>2020 is only 3 years away
>got on the ride as a kiddo
I WANT OFF

>>30386298
Probably not. He got on the young adult fantasy books being turned into a series of movies bandwagon after it ended, but at the same time his series is basically lesbian Harry Potter, and that's popular these days, so who knows. But he's not coming back. We talked too much shit and didn't realize how much worse things could get.

714

>>30386298
Nope

>>30386298
Sooner than you might think. There is a particular upcoming episode you folks might want to re-read the synopsis of. Let's see if you can figure it out.

>>30387616
H-he's really coming back?

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>>30386298
No.
We don't deserve him.
We never did.

>>30386313
>This show has been part of your life for nearly a decade now
FUCK

>>30386303
>>30386313
The show will end in 2019, not 2020.

>>30386298
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0VuhkKQl6gj

>>30386298
Hopefully no.

>>30387616
>>30386358
You're saying he wrote the next episode?

>>30387616
>There is a particular upcoming episode you folks might want to re-read the synopsis of
>Citation

I think he is overrated but with the current state of things, I would concede that we need him back.

>>30388757
>current state
You mean the best string of episodes since S5?
FIM is in a pretty good place right now.
>inb4 muh supermarkets

>>30388809
Lol nice try Jimbo.
>One good episode and suddenly all is forgotten lol XD
It doesn't work that way.

>>30386303
>>30388377
I don't think they'd be releasing a movie if they planned on ending it so soon after

>>30388825
>one good episode
whew
I'm not going to say that there's not a lot of shit right now, but saying that Royal problem, hard to say anything, celestial advice and discordant harmony aren't good just make you seem retarded Anon

>>30388825
>Rock Solid Friendship
>Parental Glideance
>A Royal Problem
>Not Asking For Trouble
>Discordant Harmony
>The Perfect Pear

and I know it's an unpopular opinion but
>All Bottled Up

Shits been good senpai

>>30388882
>>30388894
So what, 7 then.
Does that make up for the massive amount of filler and forgettable stuff?
I just want more because the awful castle and wings constantly remind me of their failure.

>>30388825
>one
really bad post

>>30388898
Get over it. It's been 4 seasons. It didn't kill Twilight's character and make her high royalty.

>>30388898
Fluttershy Leans in is the only objectively bad episode this season. Maybe Hard To Say Anything too. If you look back without rose tinted glasses, most seasons have 7-10 exceptional episodes, with the rest being just good.

>>30388922
>it didn't kill Twilight's character
haha

>>30388894
Oh right, I forgot about the rainbow parents episode, you're right it was good.
Not asking for trouble was mediocre tho, 6/10
Maud episode was the worst maud episode, 2/10

>>30388898
>so what, 7 then?
>7/13
that's a lot Anon.

Let's look at S1's first half huh
Good episodes; Two parter, Trixie, Dragonshy, Zecora, winter wrapup, and some will argue ticket master.
That's 6-7/13

crazy shit huh?

>>30388825
You aren't even trying any more, Mattelshill.

>>30388898
>7/13 good episodes is a bad thing
gee anon, hows that strike record with s1?

>>30388970
Again, just because this season was good should we forgive all the bad?
Fuck off. If you just give a pass like nothing then good for you. I'll voice my opinion anyways.

>>30388991
>muh wings & castle
No one brought those up but you.
>this season was good
So you admit the season is good and you're bitching about something no one brought up because you're a jaded cunt that can't enjoy nice things now?

>>30389006
Just go to hell kids.
Once they start messing up again because you all praised them blindly and they sleep on their bed roses, you will regret it.
Have fun while it lasts.

>>30389050
Oh yeah, I'm sure they give a fuck about what we say here
I'm sure jim is here! Reading my post!

Just go make another couple 'Look Jim is a faggot!" threads, I'm sure you'll feel better

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>>30389074
Slice of life.

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>>30389098
But dad was based as fuck Anon
There's no other writers like him

>>30388621
Production order doesn't necessarily end up being the air order.

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>>30387616
I don't think so, anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lVa1M4nxp8#t=42m30s
>Q: "What is your future with My Little Pony and being a successful author? Do you like to see yourself writing for the show, or has that part sort of moved on?"

>A: "I would happily have continued on writing for the show, but it's not the same as it used to be. Things have changed on the show. There's an episode coming up that has my name on it, but I didn't really write it; wasn't my idea. It's coming up, but it's not really my episode."

>>30389409
w-wait
why is my waifu playing as lemonshit, why isn't it rarara or ponka

>>30388943
She matured, that's about it. Its development. If I had it my way she would have never gotten wings, but it isn't nearly as bad as we thought it would be when it first happened.

>>30389409
>didn't write it
>not his idea
>name on episode
How does that even work?

Also interesting to hear that he apparently considers having an overall coordinator an important reason to work on the show if I interpret his words correctly.

>>30389696
If an episode is a clip episode, do they credit the writers for each one shown?

>>30389696
And it apparently "coming up" this season. Maybe it was made out of his original idea or something?

Also this response made him look like a butthurt Faustfag. He doesn't seem to like the idea that his other buddy Meghan is now the boss. Maybe they werent frineds in the first place?


I noticed that he never really tweeted with Vogel or Jim MIller but he used to tweet with Confalone or Amy Rogers.

>>30389742
He also tweeted with Natasha Levinger and Berrow. He probably isn't very fond of the producer or executive part of Hasbro.

>>30389742
No shit. McCarthy and Vogel made him do the MMC, Slice of Life and other bullshit like correcting the newfag writers who havent even bothered to watch the show before making a script. He was fed up with this shit.

>>30386298
who?

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>>30389782
You're my hero, dad

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>>30389742
>Maybe it was made out of his original idea or something?
Re-read your quote, he said it also isn't his idea.

>>30389742
>Also this response made him look like a butthurt Faustfag
It does a bit, but I think from what he says it's more about the way the show is run, not that someone else runs it or even the direction, just that subsequent showrunners didn't accompany the entire process like Lauren did. However, he could just be being nice. He always was a big fan of Lauren and the way S1 was run, however it was pretty clear that wasn't really sustainable.

>>30389409
Thats weird as fuck if he's gonna be credited on an upcoming episode considering the circumstances. I don't know much about showrunning but if what he says is true it doesn't make any sense.

Maybe he pitched something completely different that evolved into what we are getting to the point its unrecognizable?

>>30389696
You know how writing credits are often divided into "story" and "teleplay"? The nature of a story credit is often pretty vague, and varies with the situation. For example, Mitch once said of Rarity Investigates:
>"Before I was asked to story edit, I wrote an episode called 'The Rainbow Confession.' It's the only episode I've written in four seasons on the show that was killed. They took the premise and turned it into 'Rarity Investigates,' which is why my name is on that one, even though it really shouldn't be. My version of the episode used the same premise, but it was much more like LEGALLY BLONDE with Rarity in the Elle Woods role trying to prove Rainbow Dash's innocence, despite being completely out of her depth. I thought it was a pretty funny episode, and a nice character piece between Rarity and Rainbow Dash, but DHX wanted to take that premise in another direction."

This even happens when someone is the sole writer. One of the things that sets modern MLP apart, according to him, is the amount of meddling, notes, and arcane and often pointless re-editing that goes on, until an episode is no longer recognisable. He sometimes says that the MMC we got was not the MMC he wrote.

>>30389871
>>30389912
Yeah, see above. It's probably something that started as an old idea of his, or as an offhand comment, but was morphed and changed to where he doesn't feel right taking credit for it.

>>30389912
>>30389931

I bet it's going to be fame and misfortune:
Twilight Sparkle's publishing of the friendship journal has unintended consequences when ponies start to argue over who wrote the best lessons. It sounds like an episode premise that would have made more sense in season 5.

>>30389931
If I had to guess I'd say it's Fame and Misfortune, it sounds like a Larson episode, but if it was morphed so much it would be hard to tell.

>>30389942
>>30389946
It'll be neat to see his name again, even if it doesn't mean anything.

>>30389931
Ah yeah, I remember that about Rarity Investigates. It's likely that that's what he meant, even though I'd still count that as "his idea".

>the amount of meddling, notes, and arcane and often pointless re-editing that goes on, until an episode is no longer recognisable
I remember this, too, although I don't recall him saying that episodes tended to be not recognisable anymore or that it was as bad as your wording implies.
I do also recall the MMC thing, from what he said it might actually have been pretty neat. He did apologise for fucking up Dash's talent though.

It's definitely interesting to hear what he has to say about the show and I do think that even with the current staff setup he wrote some great stuff and I'd still like for him to return. He really seemed to do pretty well as story editor and I think he probably still would be the best choice for that position if he wanted to and had the time. But I guess his time is up and we can be lucky he stuck around for so long.

>>30390036
My only problem with his MMC script is that apparently it was going to end with a storybook closing on the last frame, implying Equestria isn't real in the show context.

>>30389409
This definitely sounds like he's disasstisfied with how the show running process is done now.

Agree with him on that the fact that Discord needs a little edge to him in the fact he could snap back anytime. That original climax with Discord taking TreeHugger to the Bell Tower sounds badass.

Looks like you guys figured it out.

>>30388991
>Again, just because this season was good should we forgive all the bad?
yes. its called "taking the good with the bad." its something adults do.

>>30391161
Shut the fuck up. You don't fool anyone.
If you are here you are a manchild. Stop pretending you are anything but.

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>>30391167
go to bed lee, this isnt the jungle book.

>>30391171
Why is everybody saying I am Lee? fuck off niggers.

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>>30391184
>getting mistaken as a literally autistic retard
>frequently
really makes you think.
well, makes everyone else think. i suppose that would be your problem.

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>>30391205
>>30391194
No it is just that today every single criticism is "lol Lee"
I am not even posting like him. I don't know if you people are newfags or just fags.
And Lee is a fucking idiot.

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>>30391215
>criticism
>>30391167
you sure are a fucking stupid autistic pile of shit anon.
thats just my criticism though.
>And Lee is a fucking idiot.
and now you know why everyone thinks youre lee.

>>30391234
You can go to hell for all I care, retard.

>>30391215
>Shut the fuck up. You don't fool anyone.
>If you are here you are a manchild. Stop pretending you are anything but.

This is why we know you're Lee, Lee.

>>30391247
Kill yourself.

>>30391246
whatever you say, lee.

>>30391167
But I have a job and my own house. Besides autism what do you have faggot?

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>>30391293
I don't need to work and I also have my own house and some other properties.
You know what anons, I don't want to fight anymore. I'll just go and come back later.
Peace.

>>30391307
Okay, and? Who gets married in this fucking day and age, you'd have to have a death wish with your fucking wallet. I care more about my money than some whore.

>>30390434
>storybook closing on the last frame,
I think it's a great ending for the show.
It closes the canon-noncanon arguments with "It's just one way of telling a story, and whether canon or noncanon lies within one's perspective", opens up the whole new mystery for Equestria for everyone to explore and make people think about "is the book a fiction or nonfiction, who wrote and read the book, what world is lying outside of the book".

>>30389696
Remember Magical mystery cure?
he turned in a script, and then another writer butchered the fuck out of it.
basically, he came up with an idea and a script, and then another writer just used it as an inspiration.

>>30389931
I miss season 1 when hasbro was hands off and let the writers do whatever the fuck they wanted because they were desperate for MLP to not be in the dumpster anymore.

>>30386298
Sadly, no.
He'd probably come back if he didn't have tons of other stuff on his plate, but he's got more important stuff with his book, and hasbro's execs (and the current staff) are shit.

>>30389696
It might be an old script he did way back when that they've dug out and rewrote. The writer's union probably has some requirement about crediting him for the premise.

>>30392113
I personally like canon to be clear cut. I'd have been absolutely if it ended up finishing like that. Only thing they did right when modifying his script.

>>30391320
this

at this point in time not even a contract can secure your wealth after a divorce

you marry some cunt get droped and live like a rat in some shady ass hut

nah

>>30392113
>inb4 book closes with the new twilight reading it

>>30390434
>>30392113
>storybook closing on the last frame
How would this imply that Equestria isn't real, the whole show is a recounted story, thus the "Once upon a time..." in the first episode.
Somebody is telling this story to someone else and we never got any hint that it's a fairy tale rather than historical happenings.

>>30393381
>She's reading it to her children.

>>30393381
When the book opens at the beginning of the show, the storyteller's voice is Celestia's. So maybe she could be reading stories of G4 in the future Equestria?
There's just so many possibilities with the idea of book closing ending and I'd love it to be the final moment of this show.

>>30388894
>Rock Solid Friendship
>A Royal Problem
>Not Asking for Trouble
>Discordant Harmony

These are not good episodes. They may not be bad episodes either (except for NAFT) but none of them are really 'good'

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>>30393425
It opens with the book Twilight is reading about the two sisters, and then zooms back out. It's not implying the show is a book.

>>30394310
Please go back to ponychan with your tryhard armchair critic bullshit. No one thinks you're cool or sees you as having high standards. You're just obnoxious.

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>>30389931
also most of Keep Calm and Flutter on was written by McCarthy who was babysitting Teddy Antionio because his parent wanted him to be credited. But her name was not even credited as either story or teleplay.

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>>30389931
Basically his main issue is that Hasbro executives and DHX staff of directors also became a part of the creative aspect of the show. If i rememeber correctly even Jim Miller was present at pitching the show ideas for new scripts and he is credited in some episodes. Jayson Thiesson was also seen by Bobby Curnow to be the guy who along with Meghan was approving the story elements for comics.

Neighter Jayson or Jim are writers and they wrote for the show. Mike VOgel was a show executive two years ago and now he writes episodes like he's suddenly a writer who is an experienced in his field ( he is not) which is absolutely unproffesional and disgusting for Hasbro to allow.

>>30394683
>Neighter Jayson or Jim are writers and they wrote for the show.
Jim isn't a certified voice actor and yet he used his power to get to voice two characters.

But because there's still justice, those episodes were shit.

>>30395000
what did Miller voice?

>>30386298
He comes back when I get laid.

>>30395103
Please Anon, for God's sake JUST SPEND IT ON A PROSTITUTE

>>30395069
Offhand, Sombra and Trouble Shoes.

>>30395344
Trouble Shoes is basically Jim except Jim deserves the shit he gets

>>30395330
implying that he wants plow humans.

>>30394683
Yeah. I thought about mentioning the "too many cooks" aspect, where everyone wants to get their name on pony's runaway success, but I felt it wasn't immediately relevant to the story credit thing. But it's definitely an issue, and a big factor in why Larson doesn't want to return.

I got a feeling Jim won't be around that much longer for some reason. 2 more seasons at most.

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>>30394683
>neighter
I'm not sure if carlos, autism or just misstype
>frogposter
nvm, autism it is

>>30394683
So basically Miller, Thiessen, Vogel and also presumably Meghan, Haber and Stephen Davis are the main reason he quit?

>>30395459
>eqg poster
talking about autism

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>>30395517
Faust is a retarded feminist and Hasbro firing her is the best thing that happened to the show

>>30395451
I never really got the Jim Miller hate. He's the director, sure, but director doesn't mean auteur. And we already know that there isn't a "showrunner" per se anymore, because that's one of Larson's lingering issues. You should really be focusing on Mike Vogel, who used his executive powers to inject himself as a writer because of some drugged-out Burning Man revelations and a mid-life crisis.

>>30395530
It's all just one or two really active shitposters Anon.
He's an autist, that's why they're always sperging about him, but he does an okay job. You just gotta ignore his tweeter.

>>30395542
He's also a bitch who will damage control every shit the show come up with. Even Larson was always opened to critcisim. FOr Miller, everyone should shut up because they making the show for little girls and not for anyone else with a brain.

So it's the meta book episode, right?

>>30395527
>This meme again
Lauren was great and you know it.
>>30395575
Yeah, this is a big issue with Jim. Unfortunately, the fact that he's so absurdly defensive also indicates that he's not going anywhere: it means he's obsessively dedicated to keeping his current position, if it was something he didn't care about he wouldn't even respond and be like "whatever".

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>>30387616
You worded this like you are part of the staff

>>30395995
Well, just mark my words for when the time comes, when the episode in particular airs. Also, keep in mind this important fact. Writers for the show are not kept on for season long contracts, rather for individual episodes. Should one stop for a period of time, there is nothing to say they aren't allowed to come back, whether in a minor or major writing role.

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>>30396032
Larson already said in the interview that theres new episode coming with his name on it but its not really his episode nor his idea. So stop pretending that you are a smart boi who has a father working at hasbro.

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>>30396047
>inb4 he's not talking about that episode
>inb4 they brought him back for a special Starlight episode

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>>30396090
>>30396131
Larson would hate that; Look at how he depicted starlight when HE made starlight.

Starlight was pretty weak, and was not some super powerful god mode sue: She had ONE overpowered spell, and was absolutely FUCKED without it: As soon as twilight saw it, she knew how to counter it, and starlight was Basically fucked in round 2.
Now? fucking hell, starlight could have beaten the shit out of the entire town solo after being exposed without breaking a sweat.
Larson wrote starlight as a weak overspecialized character, Haber turned her into a sue. Larson would most probably puke if he was asked to turn her into an alicorn.

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>>30395400
Who said anything about humans?

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>>30396183
Why even give her wings, only good characters need those to fly.

>>30389862
kys un-ironically nyeposter

>>30395530
Season 7 has been solid. He's just a faggot on Twitter and I don't think he lets people be creative enough, he hovers over and needs everything to be what he wants.

>>30397057
>solid
>maybe 1 or 2 good episodes and the rest are average at best

you have a very strange concept of "solid". Apart from the perfect pear and a flurry of emotions, this season has been pretty average. hard to say anything, Not asking for trouble, fluttershy leans in anyone?

>>30389720
Oh god I hope that's not it.

What episode do you think Dad's going to get credited with?
My money's on the S7 finale. It will be a travesty about starlight that bears some slight resemblence to a "starlight returns" idea he had when he thought her up as a villain, and so he'll get credited, even though it'll be the opposite of his idea.

>>30398215
Probably the Friendship journal publishing one.

>>30398215
Larson's more of a cool uncle that swears in front of the kids than a dad.

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>>30398940
No fuck you, he's my dad

>>30397185
>flurry of emotions
>not average
Surely you mean to say Parental Glideance.

>>30399374
"rainbow dash's parents are autistic and so is she"
I swear, you dash fags jump on anything dash related as good out of desperation.

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>>30399472
>I hate it when ponies are happy
lemme guess you hate every Ponka episodes too, right?

>Royal problem, discordant harmony and hard to say anything are 'average'
Well at least we know what to think of your opinion huh.

>>30399775
Discordant harmony was 7/10, it was 15 minutes of the same old tired joke, "Discord does something wacky!" ad nauseum.

Royal problem should have been a twilight episode.

>>30399897
>Royal problem should have been a twilight episode.

We've been over this, she has a severe bias towards Celestia, she even tried to subtly suggest to Starlight that the problem was somehow Luna's fault and that Celestia dindu nuffin. If you think Starlight steals the spotlight, the only way to put Twilight in that situation would be to have her steal the spotlight, and we'd get 20 minutes of Twilight getting over her princess bias and maybe 2 minutes of the sisters actually doing things.

>>30399897
>should've been a twiggy episode
Well... yeah, and no, rather, it should've been a season 3 or 4 episode.
Twiggy was great in it, and I really don't want to complain about that, her freak outs are so rare now.

>>30399897
Twilight wouldn't have made the mistake that Starlight made, so it wouldn't have made sense

>>30399908
There's plenty of other ways to handle it. Could have had twilight swap their marks in a similiar way to how she did the mane six's in Magical mystery cure, as an accident. Maybe even use it as a chance to shed more like on what the fuck that spell was supposed to do.

>>30399929
So in other words, write her out of character? Because Twilight would never in her wildest dreams think about casting magic on the Princesses.

>>30399943
>IN A SIMILAR WAY TO MMC
>AS IN BY COMPLETE ACCIDENT
Remember the last time twilight poke around with Starswirl's spells she accidentally swapped the other 5's cutie marks, have a callback to that by having her try and look into some of starswirl's spells with celestia in the Starswirl wing, and causing it again with one of his books.

>>30399970
She doesn't do that stuff anymore and the book that swapped the Mane 6's cutie marks burned with the treebrary.

Also
>Episode starts with Twilight messing up a spell and her efforts to reverse the effect
Already Twilight focused, you have 22 minutes. Face it, Starlight was the correct option here.

>>30400085
> Face it, Starlight was the correct option here.
No. You can easily do without a random "messing up" or "accidental" swap.
Twilight could just come up with the idea to switch roles for a day and the Princess would agree.

other anon

>>30400265
>Twilight could just come up with the idea to switch roles for a day

That's very out of character for her. It's out of character for her to even think the princesses have a problem in the first place.

>>30400280
Then we could take Starlight's time in the episode and spend it on Twilight overcoming her "Princesses are perfect" thing.

>>30400339
And waste it on something that wouldn't be much better spent on a Crisis of Faith arc?

>>30400339
>Princesses are perfect
>Celestia can do no wrong
>hyperventilation over casting a spell on them
>SPIKE SPIKE
>read books to reverse the spell
>reverse the spell.

That leaves maybe five minutes on actual princess interactions. You're asking for a Twilight episode, claiming it would better than a Starlight episode, when it was actually a sisters episode.

The mental gymnastics you people go through continues to astound me.

>>30400280
And Starlight using a nuclear weapon on her princesses 'just because they were talking' isn't out of character, even for her?
You're being silly now Anon.

For one, I would've prefered it to be a two parter. Because we've been waiting for fucking years to get a real princess episode. And this season didn't even have a starting two parter, for some reason. They could've used that spot.
That way we would've had enough time to tackle twiggy's 'bias' and have more than enough time with the princesses for fanservice purposes.

They didn't 'NEED' to swap the princesses CM either, the morale of that episode was 'get in each other's place and try to understand them before bitching'
There's a hundred ways to make this work, from memory spells or whatever to even switching bodies.

Hell, they could've sent glimglam AND twiggy, and have twiggy ask glimmy to swap their CM, she would've gone 'what?! are you sure?!"
Twiggy would've freaked out for a bit, inhaled deeply and said, yes.
Dramas dramas dramas, then twiggy's bias is getting out of hand, glimglam has to show her she's wrong somehow

I mean, really, it writes itself. There was just so many things to do with this, and they just went with 'huh, let's make poochie swap their CM because she's dumb XD'

>>30400384
Why bother even having the third wheel, anyway? Just make the princesses challenge each other to do the other's job for a day.

No other character's required. It'd work better too, because then they'd have to use the princesses as the audience character and characterise them further as they ask questions about what's involved in the day to day job.

>>30400402
I thought of that but it would fuck with the lore.
Luna's the only one capable of doing her job, because she's the only one capable of entering and doing shit in other ponies dreams.
Doesn't she say something like that in that princess dreams of magic things episode?

Also Starlight would help Twiggy seeing her bias. I guess you could put Spike instead, but Starlight and her sociopathic outbursts would be far more efficient at it.
"Oh yeah, it's totally not because your tongue's deep in celestia's ponut or anything"

>>30400429
They're able to transfer their magic at will, as we've seen, there's nothing stopping them from swapping their own butt tattoos.

>>30400348

>>30388922
Dude, she went from being the main character to appearing about 3 times each season. They literally don't know what to do with her anymore.

>>30400402
That is literally the Luna micro, and it worked perfectly.

>>30388825
>One Good episode
Dude, I'd go so far as to say this season so far has been my favorite.

Miller is better than Haber but that isn't saying much.

>>30404089
/mlp/ use to think Haber was based when he was just a writer, but turned on him once he became editor and dumped all of the show's problems at his feet.
He certainly was no Renzetti, McCarthy, or Larson, and I think S6 was the weakest we've had since S3, but I think an unfair amount of hate gets pushed on him.

>>30404089
How do you compare the animation director to the story editor?

>>30386298
No

>>30404447
Haber also gets a lot of hate for writing Glim so shitty. Larson did a fine job with her premiere then Haber proceeded to shit out some crappy scripts and gave birth to all her problems and inconsistencies.

The hate is well deserved.

>>30386329
>his series is basically lesbian Harry Potter
I've never read a stronger endorsement for anything, ever. I have to read it now. Lesbians are my fetish.

>>30386329
>We talked too much shit
Likely story. Larson loves the bants! "We'll sing his praises while pouring cyanide into his drink", I believe is the quote he retweeted.

Alas, his gain is our loss, I suppose... See you later, space cowboy.