Pixelcanvas.io - Other people can make the OP too, you know

poni

Can we just use ONE imgur album?

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Currently moving the letters on the Anonfilly banner to match pic related. It's been going slow because we've been under constant attack, so feel free to help out.

Note that a third Imgur link has been added to the OP. The first one from the top is the most up-to-date and is being actively maintained unlike the other two.

>>30311204
This would be the best option. Is the top one updated?

>>30311204
Sorry about the half-assed OP, didn't have time to make sure we weren't losing any templates by cutting the others out. I was away eating when the thread hit page 9 and 10. Otherwise I would've chose a better OP picture, updated the building/defending/completed list more and trimmed down the links. Why am I always the one who makes the new OP?

Also to whoever's in charge of the new template album, it'd be really great if you could put a small description under each picture, like "Pinkie" "Twilight", "Zebstrika" and so on, that way when we're looking for a particular reference we can just ctrl+f to find it instead of scrolling down.

Woooo, someone made an album with IWTCIRD in it... now I don't have to post it in every thread xD

>>30311213
Yes, it is.

Reminder that http://imgur.com/a/0dd4h is not being updated any more, and same probably goes for http://imgur.com/a/FY7id
I am adding everything to https://imgur.com/a/PT8Ki and updating regularly.

>>30311224
We should just put all the templates there and abandon the other albums.

>>30311231
Add a last updated field too so we know if you die.

>>30311206
i'll add pic related to the top imgur, it still has the narrow T version

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>>30311244
Maybe this too if we ever decide to make it?

>>30311243
will do

>>30311247
yea got that one saved too and will add, i'll try and sort the imgur so finished works come first on the list. something like portraits>banners>murals>misc etc etc

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>>30311206
I take full resposibilty for pointing out this mistake last thread and starting the snowball of autism. And also almost getting us into a war with the voidfags. I'm try and stop staying up for over a day or more for now on. I also ate all the pizza

>>30311266
you should do what >>30311219 said and add the names of everything so we can find what we want
>aryanne banner
>anonphilly banner
>borders

>>30311280
>I'm try and stop staying up for over a day or more for now on.

Jesus go to bed

>>30311280
That's okay if you hadn't I would've. I'm the one who made the comparison picture and I noticed it right as you posted too.

>>30311284
oh ofcourse, so simple yet so effective. i must be tired. doing it now

>>30311302
The /vp/ gift is a pokemon called Zebstrika.

>>30311321
nice, thank you

>>30311206
The letters in the first two rows are aligned correctly now, except for the second "F" in "OFF". They are safe to repair in case of trouble.

Alright I'm going to work on coming up with a changeling banner. If anyone has any other ideas than the ones posted last thread let me know.

>>30311285
Ok. But before I go do you want to know what the v_oidfags are planning? I'm still soying. They've drawn up a new attack plan.

>>30311376
does it affect us or our allies in any way shape or form?

>>30311383
To our north in the no-man's zone.

Can someone help me defend the police box? It is above Apple and about the yield signs. It is being attacked by the void, and if we could get half-a-dozen pixels a minute, maybe we could discourage them from coming down that way.

Yo yo yo

>>30311402
coords? template?

>>30311346
Changelings look like some void creature.

what's this?

http://pixelcanvas.io/@-203,1029

they're greening out banner aryanne's hair

>>30311414
http://pixelcanvas.io/@-391,303

Just do your best with blue and white. Best judgement against the void is to discourage them, not to recreate abandoned art.

It is done. Many thanks for those who helped remake the text on the anonfilly banner.

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>>30311420
i think i have a qualified guess

>>30311383
Also there trying to find more people to recruit to shore up how few they are in number. They're really nervous about us and SDLG allying and attacking them. They're deciding whether to hit east or west when they do manage to get more. For now they're hitting just above couch rarity, directly above Discord.IO

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>>30311402

Were those 4 coloured TARDIS' by the Rust logo yours?

Sorry about those, tried my best to defend them.

>>30311503
Can you tell them that /mlp/ has not ever launched an attack against anyone that does not threaten them and will continue to not do so. And that if they start heading down south it will be seen as planned aggression and we will push back but otherwise we will continue to ignore them like always.

>>30311520
No, I just saw a black line snaking down the pink yield sign. I followed it up with white, but encountered some resistance. Hopefully, some resistance on our part will send them elsewhere. A thread on /b/ shows that a lot want to go NW to the commies, but /b/ being /b/, there are those with their own ideas, and some will snake their lines elsewhere.

I'm going to repair the discord.io and crown to dissuage the void coming down, then build something over the ex metallica logo and clean up the strip of black heading down from it. I'm not going to go higher than that though provided the void doesn't try to expand south while I'm doing that.

Anyone want to help?

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Void is attacking SDLG again. Their "leaders" are trying to tell everyone to stop but the hivemind doesn't seem to be listening.

>>30311577
There is a significant number that want to reclaim the black that they had occupied for an entire day. Once void, always void.

>>30311577
Someone show this to SDLG.

Fuck Blumpf and fuck white people.

>>30311577
we could use this as an opportunity to remove a lot of the void that's been creeping south to us

>>30311591
Here's your (you?

Anyone wanna sauce me the hex values for the colours?

>>30311606
take a screenshot and use an eyedropper tool

>>30311606
ffffff, e4e4e4, 888888, e5d900, 94e044, 02be01, 222222, ffa7d1, e50000, e59500, 0083c7, 00d3dd, 0000ea, cf6ee4, a06a42, 820080

It seems like they are expanding in this area

http://pixelcanvas.io/@-76,356

>>30311611
I'm lazy. Nice dubs
>>30311614
Thanks

So what's our next project? We finally building a CMC mural or?

>>30311675
push the void back then CMC and nurse redheart, if someone has the template for her

>>30311675
Yes, finally.

Is Shimmerfag still around? If you are, can you let us know and post the template for Shimmer so we can start working on her? Else we're just going to abandon that project in favor of something else.

>>30311700
Why would we be bothering with the void?

>>30311711
We arent we are just pushing them back because they are getting a little to close for comfort

>>30311711
Because they want to expand south to us. Let's say we keep ignoring them like we have been, pretty soon they're going to have a large presence on a doorstep and pushing them back will be a lot harder.

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Can someone tell FPSB we're building the CMC mural over them? I'm sure they would appreciate it.

>>30311718
>>30311726
Except it wouldn't be since more territory =/= more strength. Draw a line in the sand, if they cross it, than they are threatening us. If not, they're just an annoying neighbor to ignore.

>>30311726

What's the furthest we'll push them back too?

Take too much territory of them and we might as well just declare war outright.

>>30311772
I vote Nyan Cat's rainbow.

>>30311772
278px in height seems fine to me

The main imgur.com/a/PT8Ki has been updated with pretty much everything up till now, essentially making the two others unnecessary. I've added descriptions so a quick ctrl+f should be viable to find what you might need.
Criticism, corrections and updates more than welcome.
I'll do some sorting tomorrow. Gotta catch a few hours of sleep or i'll implode. Untill then.

>>30311779
That's being greedy, also they were there first.

>>30311780
We need the nurse redheart template, I don't have it.

>>30311787
No it's not, and those are the tendrils /b/ have repeatedly sent down to try to grief us. It's not the real void.

So there is still some bots making those pony pussy pictures? Didn't mods said that they are not allowed to be there and they will be removed?

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Would be better to combine over longer period, but oh well... I might look at it later.

>>30311759
It's fine, they already we will help them move if required.

>>30311801
278 is the Discord.io banner and it would put us in direct confrontation with the void. We literally have nothing that high that we could use to justify such a claim. The furthest we could possibly argue is 420 because of that Vinyl that looks pretty much abandoned. Nyan Cat's rainbow on the other hand is directly above our work and we can extend it for use as an official buffer zone.

>>30311821
That's cool. What's the location?

>>30311780
Excellent job, anon. You've done a great service today. You will be remembered into recent history, though not much beyond that.

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>>30311834

>>30311780
Very well done. There are still some things you've missed (e.g. the Flutterbat template was updated to have two full-length fangs), but you did a great job regardless.

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Stop using bots

>>30311801
>>30311824
I say we start with finishing nyan cat and geting his rainbow all the way to the old FC/kekistani flag and then color in the void up to the top of the same flag. That's at around 340.

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>>30311708
Please don't refer to me as Shimmerfag or Glimfag or anything relating to Starlight Glimmer.
I fucking hate this bitch just as much as everyone else and the show fucking died in terms of everything ever. I simply made this because her fame undeniable and this picture is still everywhere I look.

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>>30311885
"no"

Do we still use them, btw? I am a bit out of loop.

>>30311912
If we go with this idea, would we be able to squeeze a mural in there to justify it?

>>30311917
Last I checked, I thought our bots were killed.

>>30311921
Wonderbolts?

>>30311824
The reason I want to go that high is because they keep wanting to expand south, they're not organized, and not to be trusted. Even if some members try to convince them to go another way as someone suggested in the screenshot posted last thread, they don't listen.

Their whole plan is consume everything. Not leave people alone and just expand. I don't trust them, and I don't want them on our doorstep. If we push back the small tendrils that means they have no incentive to head south anymore. Right now they have a lot of incentive to head south to absorb the tendrils into themselves. If we leave them to do their own thing pretty soon they'll be at our doorstep and they'll be one more force we need to defend ourselves from, daily. A little while we were seriously worried about that happening and actively removing those exact pieces I'm talking about. What changed?

>>30311930
I'm thinking either shadowbolts or Nightmare Moon. As a goodwill gesture to the void. Might help us smooth things over for such a large territory grab.

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Progress so far, the changeling logo hasn't been cleaned up at all yet, just scaled down to fit. I'm more interested in seeing if anyone has better color suggestions or if people like the direction it's headed in.

This is what the intended final product for the center is. http://img09.deviantart.net/7e14/i/2012/300/f/9/changeling_swarm_emblem_by_emkay_mlp-d4x94tb.png

>>30311948
We tried working with them against SDLG and confirmed that they have some respect and goodwill towards us. That was before people pushed the SDLG alliance through with the anti void clause and fucked over relations.

>>30311948
Also, it was mainly /b/ that was extending south. Not the void.

>>30311973
"Good relations" just means they aren't going to attack us yet, they have higher priorities. They weren't trustworthy then and they aren't trustworthy now. I'm asking what happened to change our idea from pushing them back so they're not right next to us into leaving them alone until they are right next to us. It'll be much harder to defend if we wait.

>>30311915
Ok, that's nice anon, but do you have the template?

>>30311981
It wouldn't be harder. Territory =/= strength and they KNOW they are the weakest of the factions. They have no reason to bother us except for their ultimate goal. That put us extremely low on their list of priorities. Making aggressive moves like allying their enemies and pushing our boarder to their doorstep raise us on that list.

>>30311951

They'd be cool, but as a goodwill gesture ultimatly pointless.

They'll expand towards us again if they don't gain any ground elsewhere. Which seems highly likley.

>>30312000
If they actually attack us, we'll just defend ourselves. There is no reason for us to START a war. and doing things that piss them off towards us only means we'll have to fight them sooner, while we still have problems with other factions, rather than later.

>>30311926
I think so too. Funny that we defend our pones so much people think we are using bots

>>30311998
And we are the weakest of the strong factions. They can't touch SDLG. They can't even reach the commies to touch them. If they want somewhere safe to expand, they will try to expand into us. Their whole plan is to expand into us, and having them focus on us will mean that every day /b/ and the actual void members will attack us since it is already on our doorstep. Just like they do with SDLG now.

Do you want to clean up huge amounts of black every day? Because I sure as fuck don't. We should take the stance of proactively defending from them, not allowing them to come just barely above us and sure as hell not building things that might have a lot of black in them nearby the void as a gesture of goodwill.

They don't care about any art on the void, whatsoever. They just want to consume everything.

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>>30312020
>And we are the weakest of the strong factions.
You honestly believe that? We, who repelled all of the relentless raids for the "stronger" factions and repaired all of the damage, without bots, in under a day? How do you measure strength? Which group can can the most grief? If that were the case, than we'd be the weakest since we're defensively focused.

>>30312054
The commies and SDLG have at no point seen fit to make our area their primary base. If they had, we may have ceased to exist. Commies have held their flag strong for ages without any chance of it falling to an attack, and that has been their priority. SDLG has a massive logo and they have held it strong even with their limited hours. Attacking someone is an entirely different beast than defending, and in defending things you already have built you have much more incentive to continue onward and keep going.

During every single raid we have ever had we've ever faced we lost ground. SDLG and the commies have strength in numbers, we have strength in determination and perseverance. We're nothing to sneeze at but we shouldn't overestimate ourselves and we sure as hell shouldn't underestimate the void. Doing either sets us up to have very hostile neighbors near us, and near all of our allies.

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>>30312096
Not for lack of trying

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>>30312096
Not even at peak activity

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>>30311966
Anyone?

Alternate colors I've been considering, personally I think it looks better darker.

>>30312096
Yeah, We lose ground, but we always take it back and than go right back to building.

>>30312096
>We lost ground
The fuck are you talking about? Most raids we've experienced, we've managed to repair the damage while building more shit at the same time.

>>30312122
I prefer the other one. brings out the icon's colors a bit more. Also black with green for the text makes it pop out and compliment Southern Trixie

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>>30312141
I could ask the same thing of you. What are you talking about? Every single raid we've experienced, we've spent the whole day and night repairing from. We always do, and that is our strength. We've never reached a point where we give up, so we persevere because our attackers eventually stop attacking. But whether they're slow burn raids like the communists do or hit and run like pic related was we've always lost ground during the raid itself.

And that is what my concern is, we've never had someone attempt to relocate their base to our doorstep. The commies chose /bant/'s base for their doorstep, SDLG chose holk's base. None of the big groups have ever attempted to plop right down on top of us and set up shop there. All of the factions, including the void, will have that same tenacity and determination when it comes to defending their own base. And if we let the void get to the point where its own base is right on top of us then we have lost our advantage.

Do we have any ongoing projects? Vp drawing turned out great. Im about to just help sdlg with their border problems

>>30312176
we want to do nurse redheart but apparently no one thought to save the template for it

>>30312171
Their base is the core and their plans rely on exponential growth. Without exponential growth of their forces, they're doomed to failure. We'll just have to wait out the storm like always. We could also just shoot a rainbow into their core and wipe them out since they're roleplayers.

>>30312171
Raricouch was built during heavy raid periods, as was the Glimmer portrait, the Wall banner, Glimmer's banner and IWTCIRD.

Someone help with the bottom banner of the CMC mural-a very determined Frenchie and I have been fighting over the same pixel for over 45 minutes now

>>30312198
Yes, their base is the core. And if they choose to look south to us they will start expanding there while the commies and SDLG slowly push them back at the top for fear of them expanding into either faction. Their base will move slowly but eventually shift to the south if we keep ignoring them. That, and the tiny, pitiful 3px buffer zone that would leave us over couch rarity if they breach the rainbow is why I'm against choosing that as our buffer. At the absolute minimum our buffer zone should be at 345px.

>>30312204
And raiders do not bother to attack unfinished builds. The void does. Don't think of the void like a group of raiders, because the way they operate is different.

>>30312204
>Raricouch was built during heavy raid periods
>tfw that was me
lul. I still do that while we're getting raided most of the time.

>>30312237
>And raiders do not bother to attack unfinished builds.
You're a nigger, north Trixie was under constant attack when it was being built.

>>30312233
someone's being really god damn resilient about that one blue heart

>>30312241
This is another concern, a lot of people who build don't bother to defend our existing works when we're getting raided. Which is a valid strategy when we're facing actual raiders, but if we're facing the void it would become an issue.

>>30312251
You know exactly why that one is different. Raiders don't give two shits about unfinished builds because it would waste their pixels attempting to grief them. SDLG was mad we were taking the logo, so they attempted to rebuild what they had formerly abandoned and then attempted to grief it out of anger. Northern Trixie is incredibly atypical in that regard.

Which archive does /mlp/ get archived to? I need go back a few and retrieve some templates.

>>30312268
Unfinished builds can and have been attacked in the past, not as heavily as finished ones, but they have been raided. Aryanne was under attack by commies in the past couple of days while we were trying to finish it.

>>30312270
https://desuarchive.org/mlp

>>30312237
THAT COMPROMSE WAS ALREADY MADE AND ACCEPTED!!! WTF ARE YOU EVEN ARGUING ABOUT?

See
>>30311912
>>30311921
>>30311930
>>30311951

>>30312270
yuki.la and arch.b4k.co both archive /mlp/

>>30312283
thanks bruv

>>30312286
I'm saying I don't think it's a safe choice. The bottom of the rainbow is a measly 3 pixels away from the top of couch rarity. For our own artwork not to expand over? Yeah that's fine. For us to allow the void that close to us? Not safe at all.

>>30312296
if you're looking for nurse redheart, there were two different templates people made

>>30312309
I'll get them both. Maybe. Hopefully.

>>30312314
good luck, I think there's a few other lost templates too, like portrait sized shimmer (if we decide to make it) which never debuted in the real threads but rather a thread shimmerfag made and whatever pony was originally going next to southern trixie, maybe a few more

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We are not expanding further left, stop it.

>>30312343
let's erase it

>>30312300
>all the way to the old FC/kekistani flag and then color in the void up to the top of the same flag. That's at around 340.
>That's at around 340.
Reading comprehension.

The void needs to be pushed back to the top of the discord logo. Any lower, and they will snake their way south quickly by holding a recruitment drive.

>>30312378
That would be a declaration of war.

>>30312378
Single pixel threads are literally one /b/ fag trying to get them to focus on expanding in our direction, which /b/ has already stated that he will be working alone.

We can attack the blobs and threads all we like, but the main mass continues to expand regardless of the presence of those things, we have to attack the main mass, preferably starting with the edge of it and working our way inwards.

>>30312404
The void is already at war with everyone. They have no coherent leadership. While a consensus has decided to attack the communists, a large percentage is still going after SDLG because they consider their inroads as void territory now. Some will trickle their way south. If someone gets it in their head that the south is now their territory, and they go on another recruitment thread in /b/, what chance do you have, and what of your high ground then? These are Mongol Warriors that are on a reign of destruction, and if one tribe decides south, and another decides that the inroads they made were always void territory, then the murals become a black mess.

>>30312458
You spent most of your post essentially saying they aren't a threat and you're asking me why I think they aren't a threat?

>>30312458

Mongol warriors is giving them too much credit isn't it?

I'd compare them to a steadily growing tumor at best.

>>30312478
A very large buffer would mean that they would not be a threat to us. Treating them as any other raiding group is a mistake.

>>30312458
Thing is that unlike the romans we don't have to worry about long supply lines or the void fleeing. It's more like fighting a wildfire than a horde of mongols.

>>30312484
Actually, a tumor is worse than them since it'd mean each pixel can make a new pixel and they don't have anywhere near the numbers for that kind of exponential growth.

>>30312494
So you're saying that building our doorstep on top of their doorstep is a good idea? Break and wasp nests with a baseball bat recently?

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Ok, here's what I dug back up from the past re. Nurse Redheart and Shimmer.

Variating designs but I'm going to post them all so we can pick and choose and modify whichever looks best. This is a starting point at least. Or rather, a pick up point.

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>>30312589

>>30312516
He's saying what I've been saying, erase their shit or better yet draw random art on their shit. Not /mlp/ related art, just art in general. Remove it and don't let them head south. Letting them head south is a huge, massive mistake.

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>>30312597

>>30312600
So you want us to ATTACK the void now?

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Looks like SDLG's expansion failed

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>>30312608

http://pixelcanvas.io/@-154,210
Rainbow road just in case we need to fight the void?

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>>30312614
I should note here now that the Shimmer portraits are basically just recolored Glimmer portraits.

But still, it's something. Maybe we can work out something else if necessary.

>>30312609
No. I want the tendrils that the /b/tards made to be erased before the void gets it in their head that it's their territory. I don't want to go higher than the discord.io shit though. They grow, and they keep growing. Letting them ever come lower than that is a mistake because once they are lower and have identified that territory as theirs they will not leave.

>>30312614
I'm pretty sure there was a last one in the thread and they were all improvements on the previous one with minor edits and fixes. Do you have the last one? Because that's what we should go with.

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>>30312625

Isn't there a discord or something?

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>>30312626
Fug, I lost it, but I'll go back and check.

Also we wanted this too, right?

>>30312624
That would be just a bit high.

>>30312636
yuh

>>30312626
Too late on that front. We might be able to convince them to not go below the former Kekistan flag, but that's about it.

>>30312636
Here
https://discordapp.com/invite/67Uc4aa

>>30312643
This is a requirement.

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>people think the void doesn't have the capacity to do anything to us
>made very quick inroads into taking back the area SDLG attacked them at

If they want to expand down here they will and there's not much we can do to stop it. Getting rid of their small blobs before they decide it's a good idea to come down here or that those blobs are "theirs" and should be defended and expanded upon is the best option we have.

Pic is current progress on the changeling banner, the center of the emblem's been properly done, the wings have been roughed in but aren't done yet. Thoughts so far?

>>30312626
Ok, I believe I posted the correct one, looking back. This one here >>30312608
should be the final product before everybody stopped caring.

I'll double check to see if one wasn't made later on, but I believe this is the latest version, relatively speaking.

>>30312659
It's not too late, and we should be doing it before it is. The longer we wait the more screwed we are.

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I'm guessing that SDLG wasn't too fond of the king of mexicans banner idea, so I whipped up this alternate version. If this doesn't fly, then fuck it. What do you guys think? Should I just scrap it and try to make some other kind of OC?

>>30312699
They've already drawn a circle around the Discord.io banner and declared that their territory. The only thing not settled, it how far south of the they intend to go. That's why 278 is, quite literally, a declaration of war.

>>30312703
>I'm down with La Raza
No dude, that's way too pandering and almost seems desperate for attention. Remember, we're here for the banter, and they appreciate good banter too. Don't be afraid to be offensive, just don't be obnoxiously offensive.

If you want to go a more neutral route, just say something about fruit bowls or fruitiness that Ghost is always on about.

>>30312703
I like the left side but we already have a pacman banner. And they want to build a pacman horse >>30308907

>>30312703
We could simply tear down the wall, or put a great big door on it.

>>30312710
Then in that case we need to do what we did for SDLG and show them we're going to make it a pain in the ass to expand south, until they decide it's easier to go east or some other direction.

Letting them come south is the worst possible decision we could make. We will be fucked if we allow it.

>>30312711
Yeah, I was just going for something funny Ghost said before relating to hispanics, he's got some funny catchphrases. Most of them relate to Mexicans however, either way, they want the pacman pony. So be it.

>>30312725
They already know that. Also, that is once again, a declaration of war.

>>30312720
Why would we do that? It's a good banner and they even said they liked it and found it funny which is why, even before we allied, they never attacked it only did things like make the pacman angry or change it to say fuck the wall.

Isn't the wall banner enough?

>>30312738
ah, didn't know that.

>>30312737
So be it. If we let them come south we are absolutely, completely screwing ourselves over. We need to show resistance before they have a presence there.

>Aryanne isn't under attack
I don't know if I can be reintroduced to civil society.
I've seen too much man.

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Ok, this is the only image I could seem to find for the shimmy that anon was building over the /vp/ gift space. I don't think he actually posted the template he was using.

Can anybody make do and extract it, pixelize it, then blow it up?

>It Ain't Me starts playing

>>30312746
Our we could, I don't know, try to peacefully resolve this through negotiation. Like how we did with FC and SDLG.

>>30312756
no
you will not fuck up /vg/ gift

Someone REALLY needs to get in touch with FPSB. I've fixing the border of the mural for the entirety of the evening, just trading pixels with the person maintaining the FPSB logo. I've gone looking for the thread on their board, but I don't see anything recent.

Another possibility is that we move their logo, but that raises the question of where we should move it.

>>30312774
Why the fuck would we do a gift to /vg/?

>>30312774
No, you dumbass, we need the template so we can begin building it below. That was the only image I could find that had the template short of the template itself.

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>>30312782
/vp/*
Sorry.

>>30312782
It's a NAP. We don't fuck with their shit, they don't fuck with ours.

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Some group is trying to make the AnCom flag an AnCap flag again

>>30312797
lmao. That's probably why all is so quiet on our end.

>>30312737
Once again, they are already at war with everyone. They just may have temporary armistices with those they feel are too tough right now.

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>>30312769
The void's only negotiations are temporary agreements to prioritize elsewhere until they eventually decide you are a good target compared to their other options, break the treaty, and attack. They've even said as much themselves when they came into this thread looking to make an alliance with us in the past.

That means us making a treaty with them ONLY helps them because we can't erase their lower tendrils, they can grow freely there no matter how close to us they get, and eventually they will have a strong enough presence TO attack us.

By the time they've expanded this far it is going to be too late. Ignoring them will never be the right choice nor will allying with them, they are incredibly dangerous and operate differently from any other faction. Coexisting peacefully is not an option because they do not allow for it.

>>30312812
The truth. The best defense is a good offense

>>30312769
You are hoping that they will eat you last?

>>30312812
For the millionth time, TERRITORY =/= STRENGTH!!!

A large boarder DOES NOT make them any more threatening than a single pixel! What you are suggesting that we defensive builders ATTACK and DESTROY another faction simply because we don't agree with their end-game. What makes you think they won't wait until our faction completes all the art we can think of and disbands?

>>30312810
So, does that mean we HAVE to bloody our hands when they aren't a threat?

>>30312839
And what's wrong with convincing them to leave us alone until we no longer care about what happens on the canvas?

>>30312812
Their weakness is uniform expansion, the larger they get, the slower they're going to be expanding due to their numbers, if they manage to reach us, they'll be at the point where they're trying to overtake the commies, SDLG and us, and they won't have the numbers to do any of those things. Communist attacks have already been reduced significantly as most of them drew back to defend their area, as have SDLG.

>>30312840
They are strong. Stop underestimating them, territory free of griefing and blemishes is a very good indicator of strength. None of that black is stuff they're having trouble maintaining, even following raids they rebuild very quickly.

They are not the weak faction that you think they are. And I do not believe we should destroy them. I believe we should push them back, much in the same way we never tried to destroy SDLG's southern expansion. We pushed them back because they were a danger to us. The void is a danger to us now. Why the fuck do you want otherwise?

If we disband who cares what happens to our art? We've stopped playing because we've grown bored. I care what happens to it because I'm still here designing pixel art and investing hours into drawing it. If we let the void into our doorstep then count me out.

>>30312854
except they don't expand on all fronts at once, they pick what is the best target for them to focus on and the vast majority of their members go there, a few other members defend, a few other members make inroads into other places - like us, and we aren't having any trouble expanding either

We really need to contact FPSB as soon as possible. They seem to be protecting "the scream" as well as the little hearts and the text. Most of us are ok with moving those I assume?

>>30312861
And who is currently raiding them? Who is currently spamming the void with pixels that they'd have to recover from?

Also, what makes you think that you'll ever be able to convince anybody about the idea of us being the weakest of the strong factions?

Void decision making. If you want another option than the ones I've included, suggest it.
http://www.strawpoll.me/13194195

>>30312888
Plenty of people other than you agree we should do something. I don't know if you're just stupid, blindly naive, or a member of the void. But it's extremely dangerous to allow them to build a presence to the south, because once it's there it is too late.

I honestly think if we went on the offensive we'd be as formidable as any other of the factions.

The battle against the void would be legendary, but lets face it, they're a collection of randoms, and we're a motherfucking autism hivemind super organism. Our will is unbreakable, hell we're the only large faction other than /vp/ that seems to be even bothering to make complex art still. If we can survive the raids whilst still doing that? We can do anything we set our minds to.

>>30312894
This is a hard choice. I agree with parts of multiple answers.

>>30312869
That's with the tendrils, which we can easily defend against, the real problem is the main mass, as that gets larger, they need more people to maintain and grow it. Their numbers are limited, so the more that central mass grows, the less people are going to be inclined to expand the tendrils.

I don't disagree with you on the point that we should drive the tendrils back, but you are overestimating their strength. They're going to reach a point where they can't expand any further due to the amount of territory they have and the fact they'll be boxed in and attacked by us, SDLG, the communists and Dauntless if they manage to survive their latest infestation.

Also, /b/ generally doesn't follow the rules that the actual voidfags do, any expansion/treaties done on their part isn't followed by the others who started the whole thing.

Are there any frenchfags here? Contacting FPSB now would be great.

>>30312923
They haven't hit their maximum capacity for growth yet and it's blatantly obvious. They're not struggling to maintain what they have and neither are we and our art covers about the same size as SDLG's logo.

Eventually they will reach that point, but it will be well after they are already on our doorstep and attacking.

>>30312933
I can speak very basic french and attempt to write up a message for you to send them. What do you want it to say?

>>30312933
Just start rebuilding their art below or something. They'll catch onto what we're doing and they shouldn't mind.

>>30312894
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13194195
Nice strawmen

>>30312914
We aren't the Commies. We aren't SDLG. We aren't the void. We don't go out of our way to make enemies. We make allies and protect our own. You and other anti-void fags like you are baying for blood rather than looking for ways to peacefully resolve things and get back to building. I honestly don't believe that any of you are from /mlp/. I honestly believe you came from reddit or other boards to ruin are first day of peaceful building in a long time and trick us into attacking another faction without any reasoning beyond blatant fear.

>>30312951
It isn't making an enemy. The void has already declared war on absolutely everyone and is everyone's enemy by virtue of existing, we are very near to them and they've started moving our way. It's pushing them back the exact same way we pushed SDLG back before allying with them.

I don't want to wipe the void out of existence, I want to get rid of the areas in our backyard before it's too late for us.

>>30312951
Not that anon, but I just don't trust the Void at all. I'm not looking to go actively attacking, but I sure as hell am willing to push them back past a buffer zone every time they try to cross it.

I'd really only be bothered by that option if they started to build a core around that buffer zone. But as far as tendrils go, that should simply be pushed back for sure.

That's my opinion.

>>30312951
I never said we SHOULD go to war, just the fact that if we do, we have the capabilities to win.

I'm for peace, but they can't get their general mass too close.

>>30312937
That would be good but I don't know where/how to contact them.

>>30312937
True enough, but we can make their job harder by destroying the tendrils and blobs as they get closer along with aiding SDLG. We might also try to halt their expansion west to reduce their eventual front against us, there are advantages of allowing them that space.

Also, I don't think the dev is going to allow them to expand to the point where they've destroyed most of the art, he has a vested interest in maintaining the site and doing nothing to stop the void will make everyone eventually fuck off.

>>30312951
Well if it makes you feel better I'm absolutely convinced you're from the void and are out to further your own goals. We've routinely erased the void's tendrils to the south by drawing over them because we saw them as a threat. /b/, SDLG, the actual void, what difference does it make that the faction putting them down has changed? This is the first thread I've seen us posting in where anyone has advocated letting them reach that low. We've always agreed and wanted to push them back.

>>30312966
IF EVERYBODY IS THEIR ENEMY THEN WHY NOT JUST DEFEND OUR HOLDINGS AND WAIT FOR THEM TO BE HOISTED ON THEIR OWN PETARD!!!

>>30312970
I'm perfectly alright with a buffer zone as well and I agreed with the one at the top of the old Kekistan flag.

>>30312973
Agreed, better to react to their aggressive action than to make our own.

>>30312986
Actually the Nyan Cat border was suggested before we went on the offensive against SDLG. Before that, no buffer zone had been considered meaning a border a 0px

pixelcanvas.io is the mmorts the world needed

>>30312974
Salut FPSB, nous sommes /mlp/ et nous voulons faire un dessin ici [coordinates]. Nous allons installer ailleurs ton dessin avec vous. Est-ce agréable?

"Hi FPSB we are /mlp/ and we would like to make a drawing here [coordinates]. We'll move your drawing with you. Is that agreeable?"

This is as much as I can trust myself to write. I'm not sure it's perfect but it should be understandable, include a picture of our mural to help illustrate the dimensions. Other than that you might have luck checking the official discord because I think they added a french channel to it.

>>30313032
I'm not talking about recently. I'm talking the last dozens of threads. The opinion has been consistent that we push them all back or push them back when the void itself takes interest in them, and we have done so.

So why are you acting like they should stay? Why are you acting like we should ignore them? Why are you acting like the consensus has been anything else or that a few people suggesting we use the nyan cat border meant that we agreed to that when we were actively drawing hearts and other pictures and erasing the void much higher before?

>>30313051
They had a thread running on the FPSB forums for pixelcanvas a while ago. Not sure if its still active or if they shifted to discord, though

>>30313062
Then someone should make a thread there and post >>30313051. I don't plan to be that someone but I'll do my best to translate anything they say in response.

You could also add this "Je ne parle pas beaucoup français et alors c'est difficile pour moi comprends."

Assuming I wrote it right, I don't think I did "I don't speak very much French and so it's difficult for me to understand." If any of them speak English well they'll probably volunteer to help translate.

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>>30312894
No one else has voted, including that guy who desperately wants us to ignore them, so should we contact SDLG?

>>30313081
thanks, doc

>>30313081
8 people should not define the future of our faction. Let's re-poll tomorrow at noon or something.

>>30313091
Alright, in the mean time I think we should at least remove some of the tendrils below 345px, everyone can agree to that much at least.

>>30313098
Sounds like a plan

>>30313061
We aren't destroyers. We have no right to decide who does or doesn't get to draw on the canvas. We have to right to tell people where they can and can't draw, for the most part.We would rather build that spend our pixels fighting wars. We would rather convince people to coexist with us with words rather than force. We just want to peacefully build. We will defend out territory and we will defend our allies, but none of that gives us a reason to throw the first stone or to continue after the need to fight has ended. All a buffer zone is, is us saying we'll delete anything we don't like past a certain point rather than simply reacting to the presence of that something and going until we feel satisfied. But it also causes pressure on those we draw the line against that could cause unnecessary future problems if not handled correctly.

>>30313081
I don't bother with polls that are made with a painfully obvious bias or that I know will be rigged against me.

>>30313105
Sure I have a bias. I still gave you the option to voice your choice by creating a strawpoll with those results. You've had the chance to convince other people here as well by posting about what you think we should do, no one agrees with you.

If you don't want your opinion to be counted because you disagree with how I worded it that's also your choice.

>>30313081
>Attack the people we say are the enemy.
>Attack the people we say are the enemy.
>Admit that you escaped from a mental asylum.
>Admit that you escaped from a mental asylum, but are not as bad as the other guy.
>Attack the people we say are the enemy.

>>30313115
See >>30313124

>>30313105
We aren't throwing the first stone, they have been expanding south to us (and are doing so as we speak, I'm watching them place pixels here and there below the 'agreed upon' 345px mark) with the intent of growing their void here, on our doorstep. It's time to at the very least remove those in the same way we went north when SDLG sought to expand over us.

>>30313115
you're being kind of a dick though I gotta say
really no need for that

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>>30313105
Just wait till /mlp/earl harbor happens and you'll be singing another tune. They WILL eventually attack us. Only the naive believe otherwise.

The only choice that matters is what to do with the time between then and now? I don't want us to have our dick in our hands when so many people invested 100's of hours of work watch it fall into the ether.

The void is a regime that will never be placated.

>>30313134
It's not agreed upon yet ya dingus because I'm refuse to make a deal before our side agrees on it, unlike the idiots that tried t deal with SDLG the first time.

>>30313130
Nice digits m8

>>30313143
And you are an idiot for believing that I don't already know that.

>>30313136
I don't want our artwork to get destroyed because someone thinks we should ignore the problem until it's grown exponentially. I've invested weeks into defending it and weeks into building it- as has everyone else here.

Some people have invested those weeks into not just that, but time spent making art for us and coding bots for us, people have posted here saying they learnt to code just to make bots to defend us, or learnt to sprite just to make things for us like >>30312703. That's pretty amazing and meaningful. Do you really want to sit here and wait while the void - whose intentions we already know - slowly continues to expand south getting nearer our doorstep every day?

They haven't hit their growth cap yet, not even close. Eventually if we wait it's going to be too late.

>>30313160
>until it's grown exponentially.
You mean when they get hundreds of new recruits or when they have some more pixels on the canvas? Also, building a buffer zone is the opposite of ignoring the "threat"

FYI, this is what I think of every time you guys cry about letting the threat grow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH0hikcwjIA

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>>30313176
No, I mean until it's doubled, tripled, quadrupled, or more in size. They are continously taking more territory and having no problem doing so while holding it either. Even despite SDLG frequently attacking them. They have a large presence and they are actively expanding southward.

>>30313160
I get it, you don't want our art to get shit on by the black leddit cancer, as don't we all. You think it demands immediate offensive action beyond our current rainbow brigade, you're probably right.
I'm just saying you don't need CNN-tier dichotomies and beating people over the head with early poll results to get the point across.
If you start taking it so seriously you'll start feeling bad over it all, and pixelshit isn't worth being frustrated

http://pixelcanvas.io/@-78,346
they're hopping the rainbow border being built

Devs should step in to keep the void away from real art i mean wtf. They should white out north of us, and keep doing it if its nothing but the black void. The shit is ruining peoples experiences on their site. You think they would help out the ones who actually draw nice stuff. Idk maybe im crazy

>>30313227
yeh maybe the dev screenshots I see posted here are skewed, but it does seem weird he's willing to gas the redxicans if they get out of hand but not the actual mass of nothing, I don't get it

>>30313214
The way I see it by the time we decide to push back, if we do decide to, it's going to end up being too late.

I don't care that the art will one day be destroyed when we're all bored of pixelcanvas. I care that while we're here, while we find value in this community we've created we might end up losing out and abandoning our work early because a bunch of people want to color black over everything and succeed.

>>30313227
Nah. That's not fun for anyone either, The void is a cool idea, it's just growing too dangerous (for us). The dev won't do that anyway, he and the rest of the staff has routinely been against intervening to prevent griefing. They only erase swastikas, porn, and moot.

are we turning the rainbow to be at an angle? is that what's happening?
http://pixelcanvas.io/@-70,340

>>30313243
yes

I thought the rules the void played by included not jumping. Every time I see a black pixel added they just ignore the rainbow being made.

>>30313202
You moved the screen cap to show a larger portion of the core in the lower picture.

>>30313214
Tell me about it. I'm the guy fighting for peace and I haven't had a break from this site for weeks. I'm losing sleep. My anger issues are getting worse. My anti-depressants aren't working as well any more. I haven't even had a single chance to play a game and now I'm having to play diplomat between /mlp/ and "Their Greatest Enemy" because nobody else was even willing to talk to them.

>>30313254
There are groups outside the void that put down fake tendrils in an attempt to drive them. Like /b/ putting tendrils towards Rarity's couch.

>>30313274
I took a screenshot four days ago there for whatever reason. I took a screenshot now trying to include both how much territory the void had regained and the differences between then and now. You can easily see where things are oriented to be able to tell how much it's grown, it's not an attempt to make you think it's bigger than it is. It's there to show you they've considerably thickened all the lines and blobs as well as been able to eat away SDLG's red square. They're definitively moving south and expanding on all fronts.

So there is horse pussy now?

http://pixelcanvas.io/@-1417,1508

Classy.

>>30313286
I have already confirmed that they decided to claim the area around the Discord.io. Their plan is a rough circle connecting the 2 blobs on either side of that banner. I know about their growth since I'm the only one that seems to be willing to interact with them.

>>30313300
>Somebody fixed it.

God bless!

>>30313274
>and now I'm having to play diplomat between /mlp/ and "Their Greatest Enemy" because nobody else was even willing to talk to them.
don't speak for us, we're not going out and asking SDLG to attack them without a consensus, you shouldn't be going to the void and asking them to do something without it either

>>30313303
That plan sounds like it'll end up like this. >>30312812

>>30313300
"You wouldn't fug a poner"
???

>>30313305
I'm not. I innitially got in contact with them before the operation against SDLG so we could coordinate better and when they asked for a diplomat to enter into formal talks, NOBODY CAME! Than the alliance with SDLG happened and now I'm stuck as the only point of contact between our two groups.

>>30313318
Remove the portion going down to the QR code since it will be inside our buffer zone and you got it. This might've been avoided if people were actually willing to have an open dialogue with them though.

Two things.

If we are going to push back against the void, this rainbow idea is retarded. You're leaving a visual trail of where the void used to be, and it'll be significantly easier for them to just reclaim it when they need to.
Secondly, I don't see what's so bad about a simple border idea. We set up a line, if the void tries to push a tendril through it, we remove the tendril. Simple and easy.

>>30313329
so then why are you all for letting it happen? because that's worst case scenario

>>30313329
I think that was meant to be a projection of their movements, not an ideal border designation

>>30313334
This. We might try to protect it, but they're going to damn well try to take it - and any other black - within our 'buffer zone' while still growing the area above it and even attacking the abandoned flag. If we let them grow that amount we're in serious danger.

>>30313332
It's to late to stop it. We had a chance for a formal relationship, but everybody just wanted to hate on the void so badly. I'm just one guy, who's all alone. I can only clean up so much shit!

>>30313334
To bad, look'd just like a filled in version of the picture they made.

>>30313340
See >>30313199

>>30313342
maybe the reason you feel you aren't being taken seriously is that not many believe the void to be an entity of integrity or even coordination

>>30313342
No one wants an alliance with the void because an alliance with the void is by definition temporary and can only benefit them. We can't attack them and they're free to expand as much as they want to up until a certain point. So they expand, we maintain our border, and before you know it the void is right there and ready to move closer. If you're the person who posted suggesting an alliance a few days ago you even admitted then that alliances with the void are only temporary agreements.

Why is it too late to stop it? Just because that's already their plan doesn't mean we can't remove any black they attempt to create. If you think we could stop them when they eventually come and attack us directly, why do you think we can't stop this now?

It's our chance to lay down our own boundaries and do it on our own terms. Without worrying what the void thinks or wants and only deciding what we want. This is our chance to show them we mean business and are a faction to be taken seriously, that we won't let them walk all over us.

>>30313347
And I don't believe that either. I'm judging them like animals with predictable natures.

>>30313300
Kek they would put scruffy there

>>30313356
That is EXACTLY who I am. All I'm trying to do is put us lower on their list of priorities rather than higher. So that by the time they finally decide to start voiding ponies, we might've gotten bored with the site and left. Or somebody else killed them, whichever happens first. In the end, I want us to remain being builders and not have to waste time fighting wars that could've been prevented.

>>30313356
BTW, the reason that it's to late is not only that it's what they decided on. It's that we have no arguments to bring to the table that would dissuade them from doing it.

>>30313369
Neither of those things are going to happen by then though, that's the problem. /mlp/'s interest has not wavered like the other boards, playing it like an mmorts has managed to keep it fresher for much longer, having enemies that invade us gives us reason to rebuild and pride in our work, having allies gives us people to help with. A steady stream of content encourages new projects.

The void is going to attack us and they are almost certainly going to do before we quit, and would have done so even had we allied with them earlier. What you're hoping for is to allow them to expand all along a line we neatly draw out for them and they will get more powerful for it. Then they have no reason to follow an alliance with us anymore and will seek us out.

>>30313375
Our "argument" is we're going to erase it and we're going to keep erasing it until they cease building it and decide it isn't worth expanding the void there because it's too difficult to. SDLG wanted to stop covering our ponies before we made that treaty with them because they decided it wasn't worth their time, we were putting up too strong of a fight. Negotiations are done best from a position of power, not of weakness.

Whats being built to the right of south trixie?

Anyone notice the message "SDLG will give /mlp/ to void" above rarity?

>>30313391
it was only ever mentioned in one or two threads, I don't think most people remember

>>30313396
that's an interesting way to try to start shit between two alliances, how dumb do they have to be to think we're going to fall for it? SDLG hates the void and wants to eradicate them, they'd happily side with us taking it out

>>30313396
Probably some bullshit void faggot

>>30313347
>>30313361
They are not a coherent entity. While they have some organization, they have waves from threads on /b/, and can be wildly random.

What? They aren't following their own rules? It is because someone just wants to put a black dot down.

>>30313388
Just what kind of timescale our you thinking on? Their goal is to cover the ENTIRE canvas, not just the center. We're talking months here. So your idea of a peaceful argument is to start raiding them with pixels and than telling them that they can't have that area because fuck you? Yeah, that'll go over well.

>>30313406
They do have a leadership and they are working on unifying their disparate forces as we speak and instituting a chain of command.

>>30313410
>Just what kind of timescale our you thinking on?
Us getting bored? Not in the week or so it's going to take for the void to start attacking us if we ignore them.
>So your idea of a peaceful argument is to start raiding them with pixels and than telling them that they can't have that area because fuck you?
Where are you getting the idea I'm advocating for peace from? I'm advocating we stand up for ourselves and attack the void that is blatantly planning on expanding into our turf.

Think of them like a river we don't have to "stop" them. We just have to be harder to erode than all the other rocks nearby. We put up a fight, we win, they decide to go east or west because it's not worth their time and effort expanding north or south. That is all we have to do.

I thought the flag on cmc mural was a lighter blue? Is there a different template?

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>>30313438
This is the most up to date mural.

>>30313431
>/mlp/ is historically defensive and has successfully tried to turn enemies into allies in the past.
>attack the void
Gee I wonder. Also our turf currently ends at the top of Rarity's couch.

>Think of them like a river
You're forgetting the simpler option, to divert the river.

>>30313440
That flag looks like shit

>>30313450
>/mlp/ is historically defensive
That works with allies that want to create, not allies that want to destroy. We're never going to get the communists to leave our banners or Aryanne alone, we're never going to get the void to not want to black out our shit.

>You're forgetting the simpler option, to divert the river.
No, this is diverting the river. You want to dam it up and wait until it overflows. Is the problem that you DON'T think we could stop them? That we're not capable of it?

>>30313460
it's the one we reached a consensus on

>>30313396
It previous said defend on the other side of /mlp/. Presumably, that was their redline, which the void had to cross before assistance was had. That is much too close, and SDLG is having too much trouble with the void right now.

>>30313467
I think that's all the more reason for us to do this now, we agreed to ally with SDLG and protect them from the void, if we let the void grow larger and just ignore them we're failing to live up to our side of the alliance- SDLG wants to stamp out the void and we don't want the void to expand into our backyard, so let's reduce the size of it and help SDLG rebuild and push back

>>30313462
I think diverting the river is actually a good analogy. We hit hard enough, they move in a different direction--a path of least resistance.

Wait, back up, what happened to the communist's flag?

>>30313483
oh damn no wonder it's so quiet tonight

>>30313462
And I'm not saying we even attempt to change either of those group. I'm saying that we peacefully attempt to put us lower on their list of priorities so that they could be somebody else's problem. What you're suggesting is hurling a boulder into the river and HOPING everything works out. What I'm suggesting is building a levee to prevent overflow while the river takes the path of least resistance away from the center AND us.

>>30313502
That's not what I'm suggesting at all nor what you're suggesting but I'm not about to shift this argument into one about rivers. The point is if we make it too hard for them to make their planned black circle, they're going to decide to give up and move to somewhere else. Hopefully east away from us, /vp/, and SDLG.

http://pixelcanvas.io/@-71,345
alright who's the wise guy who keeps cheating

>>30313508
Except that they are already planning on moving ya dingus. If you don't like rivers, fine. Lets talk animals. The void is a wounded tiger surrounded by packs of very healthy tiger, two of which are VERY hungry. There is a path to the NW that leads away from this dangerous place and there is a path to the SE that recently opened up. Now one of the groups of tigers suddenly gets hungry and starts stalking the wounded tiger's cave, cutting off paths of escape. What happens?

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>>30313512
Are you trying to tell me, somebody's cheatin'?

>>30313540
We aren't going to cut any of those paths off because that is exactly where we want them to go. They are free to expand directly east. South is NOT permissible.

>>30313550
Irrelevant, we're still right outside stalking the wounded tiger's cave. What happens?

>>30312643
YES!

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>>30313556
Nothing happens. We prevent them going where we don't want them (south) and SDLG prevents them going where they don't want them (north), so they're forced to go the route we choose and allow.

>>30313575
Even a mouse when corned will attack the cat. How do you, a person who has never actually interacted with the people behind the void KNOW that they won't decide to retaliate in the face of such an aggressive act? How do you KNOW the boulder you tossed into the river won't cause it to overflow and flood the surrounding area? How do you KNOW the scared tiger won't strike at the invaders outside it's cave?

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>>30313597

>>30313599
>let's just let it happen because they might retaliate
>when they're going to attack us anyway
>when they've been shown to try to take the path of least resistance
>when we've successfully proved we're autistic enough to outlast attackers before

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>>30311327
Just saw this fucking shit in the last thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UIbTpmho68

If the Void has a National Anthem we need one too. Especially if we're going to war. LET'S HEAR YOUR SUGGESTIONS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQKaAlMNvm8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGouV7BXcMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgsBcT4PAuI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v51OH10Zbi8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGYRB3N4Yjs

>>30313575
No, send them NW. They want to go that way anyway. There is a lot less for them to bother there.

>>30313613
I'm worried they'll attack /vp/ if they do since we're allied with them and /vp/ has all but quit.

>>30313612
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRhg2zvalXc

>>30313603
need some help with this

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>>30313465
Doesnt seem that way looks like they are using this template at least for the flag

how many people are still here?

>>30313625
we reached the consensus on it days before the mural was made, it's just no one built a template of it or scaled it up

where the fuck is everyone?

>>30313608
>lets just declare war on them and get it over with.
>I also really want to discredit this guy because I don't have an actual argument.

>>30313642
you've been given arguments and you just keep ignoring them and saying they won't succeed, why do you think they won't succeed? why are you so scared of the void?

>>30312643
Do want.

>>30313653
I'm tired of unnecessary conflicts. Why are you afraid of them?

so what are you guys working on?

>>30313667
they're not unnecessary, the void's literal goal is to turn everything - including us - black, if we ignore them we're going to be turned black, if we fight them we will win

the choice is blatant and obvious

>>30313672
rainbows

>>30313641
Dont know I dont even know what we are building

>>30313672
>>30313680
http://pixelcanvas.io/@-62,330
removing void because as the guy against defending from the void has said, their plan is to make a giant void outpost right above us

>>30313680
well than help me fix the flutterbat mural
>>30313603

>>30313676
It isn't our job to deal with it. You didn't answer my question.

>>30313672
Considering moving Vinyl somewhere further away. Whoever is writing on her face has made it clear he's not going to stop.

>>30313697
okay, guess we should just let them cover our ponies, just because you're too dense to understand what you've been told doesn't mean you haven't received answers many times

>>30313615
Ah, it might be time for mod intervention then. Does the mod want a place where people can create art and have fun, or have a place where it is pvp, and the entire place can turn ugly?

>>30313642
You've already discredited yourself plenty.

>>30313706
the dev told everyone to deal with it when holk was griefing everything and has repeatedly stated it's free for everything, including edits and griefing

but not swastikas, never swastikas (except ours) and definitely never lewd ponies

whats going on next to the rainbow @ http://pixelcanvas.io/@-50,325 ?

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>>30313730
I was making this to fight the void a while ago but then we had to deal with raids, then SDLG shooting a line through it, and now we're building in rainbows. So whatever works.

>>30313692
You got it buddy

>>30313722
>never lewd ponies
You mean like this?
http://pixelcanvas.io/@-1446,1426

>>30313701
>>30313711
And you obviously won't understand what I'm saying So I'll simply leave a poll and aim for whatever /mlp/ wants. Even If I personally disagree with it.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13194878

>>30313742
yes, they routinely erased that before and they'll erase it again when they realize it's there

>>30313743
none of those reflect what we've said, we don't want a buffer zone or to eliminate them, we want to fight their planned expansion until they give up and are redirected

I voted war because I'm guessing that's what that one means

wish i could find out who's trying to "fix" the flutterbat mural and let them know they are using an outdated template

>>30313757
Yup. The war pretty much means intentional conflict by any method towards any end.

>>30313758
Hey man im just goin off what this fuck said >>30313692

>>30313765
so what does "no negotiations" mean then? where's the different choices for "eliminate void" and "redirect void", both of which seemed to be popular opinions

>>30313722
>never swastikas
>except ours
>definitely never lewd ponies
I found a loophole.
http://i.imgur.com/8MSKKn1.png

>>30313773
in case it wasn't clear, >>30313603 is the correct and current template

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>>30313773
also

Actual non-biased, detailed strawpoll.
http://www.strawpoll.me/13194921

>>30313777
War can lead to eliminate and the way redirect was discussed about seemed that it'd be a result of the other options. No negotiation meant we just cut off negotiations and try to handle the situation without any more diplomacy, but now that I think about it, I'll consider it the board telling me to "retire". That's what I'll vote for since I am WAY past tired with all of this.

>>30313786
>>30313790
Then stop moving the white pixels off her tongue i neep putting them on and some faggot keeps taking them off

>>30313795
you got it wrong man, I'm trying to put the orange and white pixels back on. I think it's some asshole who's not even in this thread doing that shit

>>30313793
so you didn't include any of the options people have been talking about this whole time but the most extreme one because you disagree with them and can't differentiate between them?

the first strawpoll included detailed options it disagreed with even if it was hostile to them >>30312894

I just looked at the count of how many people are on only 121? That cant be right

>>30313807
it's really late at night

>>30313807
all the kiddies are in bed

>>30313803
The first one is equivalent to no border. The second option is equivalent to Kekistan flag buffer zone. The third option is either declare war or a very aggressive no buffer zone, can't really do much with that negotiation wise. The forth option is declare war. Finally, the fifth option is declare war with the addition of calling in allies. Seems like fewer options if you ask me.

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>>30313825
fewer options, but all the ones that were actually discussed at the time
>ignore it because it doesn't affect us and we'll deal with it later
>ignore it so long as it doesn't go too low
>remove all the southern pieces so they won't move here (roughly equivalent to redirect)
>reduce their territory drastically

>>30313840
in addition to that, I should also add you had your answer with the first poll, and all the people telling you otherwise this entire thread- you didn't need a second poll, we don't want to be overtaken by the void and the only person that sees this as anything but a promise for them to do that is you

>>30313840
Those are all actions on our end. Negotiating is about convincing them to do actions we want on their end. Right now everything either leads to conflict or various means of diverting them, but other than agreeing to actually be diverted, all we can do is convince them not to cross into the purposed buffer zones.

>>30313855
irrelevant, you ignored the options people want in your poll, and in this thread, we told you what we want to do about the void, they're dangerous and going to walk all over us if we let them

we've done this before with hearts and with >>30313735 and with other things, consensus has been for a long time that we push the void back when it gets too close, because it's not like the other factions

you can't make friends with it

>>30313858
Let me word this differently. The question I ask is purely for the information I need to know to engage in negotiations. The fact that we don't want them anywhere near us is a forgone conclusion. What I don't know is whether or not we want to draw a line in the sand and if so where, as well as whether or not we want to enter into conflict with them. I removed stuff that was a given and stuff that was heavily opinionated and simplified the options in an attempt to make them clear and straightforward in an attempt to avoid confusion.

at this point I'm wondering if I am trying to outlast another person or a bot.

>>30313877
then it should have been clearer, because none of that was about negotiations

if we're going to tell them anything, be it that we will take them heading south and filling in the discord.io as an act of hostile intention, and that they should instead head somewhere else- where, I don't know

I don't want them going east and destroying artwork which we just fought to prevent with SDLG, I don't want them to head northwest and get the idea to attack /vp/, but if they head south or if they keep attacking SDLG, we will consider them our enemy and we will fight back

>>30313882
shit. I'm almost 100% sure now that there are multiple bots defending the flutterbat mural that are using an old template.

>>30313896
come work on this then
http://pixelcanvas.io/@-56,321

>>30313898
why not
also fuck captcha

>>30313900
why does it still say protected by recaptcha anyway if arkeros got rid of it

>>30313883
>if we're going to tell them anything, be it that we will take them heading south and filling in the discord.io as an act of hostile intention, and that they should instead head somewhere else
And, excluding the part about Discord.io, I am in perfect agreement with you. I just feel that line is way to close and it'd cause unnecessary tension. That was what I was arguing against, the option I personally thought was the worst in the bunch. I will fight for it though if that is what /mlp/ decides. However, id like to point out that your insistence on protecting all of the art in their only possible paths of escape goes against your goal. They'll still need a path out of the center, even if we have to make it for them. They are in a very disadvantageous position and going over existing art is really their only option, I'm just prioritizing that it's not our art.