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>fanfic set in the past
>Luna is still the only one who uses the thou pronoun
>Celestia doesn't use the royal we
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>>30224278
>Reading fan fiction
Why?
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>>30224286
>he fell for the "fanfiction is never good" meme
Do you also avoid greentext stories?
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>>30224286
I unironically believe that the smutfics and artfag OC is the only reason to still come to this place in current year.
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>fanfic gives all unicorns Twilight tier magic utility
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>fanfic kills off a m6 member
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>>30224278
>fanfic uses a generic human self-insert
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>Pinkie breaks the fourth wall multiple times per chapter
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>fanfic
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>>30224345
But you're posting a Vogel fanfic reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>30224303
>Do you also avoid greentext stories?
Like the plague
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>>30224374
At least you aren't a hypocrite. I'll give you that.
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>>30224311
This desu. Unless a new episode is airing your other options are

>ebic shitpost spam
>recycled nostalgiafag discussions
>Reeeeee no hooves ex dee
>image dump

I guess there's speculation or hopes/wishes for future content- Oh wait the board is slow as balls now, seven seasons has drained all the optimism, and some epic "mature" or "self-aware" horsefucker will inevitably reeee at you for trying this type of discussion on a kid's show.
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>>30224278
>Fanfic
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>>30224286
>>30224345
>>30224410
>It's an /mlp/ pretends to hate fanfiction while half the board is literal fanfiction generals episode

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>30224278
Who gives a fuck you autist
No one wants to read this kinda shit, it's just fucking painful to read
That's why I don't even bother reading/writing Luna

>>30224303
>>30224311
>he fell for the easy (you) magnet
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>>30224433
>Who gives a fuck you autist

How about the fucking author writing that kind of premise? If even they don't care why should they expect anyone to care enough to read past the first chapter?
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>>30224447
Oh yeah, sure, but what does old english brings that could be considered positive for a story?
Everyone knows Luna speaks like a retarded medieval priest, no need for you to write her as such
Just add 'She said using her retarded canterlot voice' and there you go

>>30224452
But if the author does give a fuck then OP has no problem you faggot
My point is that not many people does it because it's a pain to write/read and there's not enough people autistic enough to care
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>>30224433
>>30224459
Deleted to clarify that so long as they modernize Luna's vernacular when writing a story set in the past, it's fine. It's basically just translating what would be their Middle English to Modern English.

>>30224278
>Fanfic
>Author doesn't even have a story arc in mind; he just makes it up as he goes along.
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>>30224278
Fanfic writers get archaic english wrong 90% of the time, why fucking bother?

Also, Luna never pulled that shit when she was reformed, Luna Eclipsed is an episode loved only by fedora tipping hipsters.
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>>30224463
Are you talking about season 1? She had one line before Luna Eclipsed.
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>>30224463
The show also gets archaic language wrong much of the time; hell, they get basic grammar wrong sometimes, even out of the mouth of Luna.

The cringiest moment was when in "To Where and Back Again," Luna said, "They've taken my sister and I!"
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>>30224463
Luna eclipsed was a good episode tho, dunno why u hating on it
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>>30224473
Yes, but that's because it's a show for fucking kids
This is the exact same reason why AJ doesn't sperg like a redneck anymore, because kids can't understand shit and even their parents had a hard time translating
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>>30224459
Not even that. It's more of a consistency and attention to detail thing. If it's set in the past you either make all the pones talk old timey or none of them do (the better choice) including Luna.
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>>30224473
>"They've taken my sister and I!"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the correct structure?

>>30224476
Pic related
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>>30224480
No, >>30224473 is just inexcusable. They were trying to make Luna have correct grammar, and accomplished the opposite. It's not a mistake a child would make; it's a mistake an adult scriptwriter makes when trying to make a character have proper or archaic grammar and just butchering English instead.
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>>30224484
>You're baiting right?!
Hahah, you faggots are just too much
Well go ahead, tell me why you hated it Anon
It was funny, entertaining, gave us some lore about their halloween
Because your waifu wasn't in there? Is that it?
No rarara?
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>>30224483
Have to concur with this. The best thing to do is drop archaic speech and just make them talk more formally, it makes for better reading and doesn't make the whole thing look like a big fucking joke.
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>>30224484
>>"They've taken my sister and I!"
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the correct structure?
"I" is an object of the sentence. You would say, "They've taken me," not, "They've taken I."
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Wait. People hated Luna Eclipsed? I understand a lot of the hate for many of the season 2 episodes, but I don't remember this getting much hate aside from muh old woona fic. What about it aside from not fitting with your Luna headcanon was bad?
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>>30224483
Oh yeah, didn't want to imply that, I'm with you on this part.
Then again Luna calls it the canterlot voice, for all we know she could be the only one with Celestia to have ever used old English.
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>>30224493
No, it's just a rararafag being assblasted his waifu didn't get an halloween costume that year
Luna eclipsed was great
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>>30224494
Royal Canterlot voice is the shouting. Everyone a thousand years ago spoke old English. The point is Luna was in a sort of time capsule due to being on the moon for a thousand years.
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>>30224508
>Royal canterlot
How do you know she's only talking about her volume?
Twiggy didn't ask her to drop her canterlot voice, just the volume
>Everyone a thousand years ago spoke old English.
prove it?
>the point is that
No. I mean, maybe, but you can't know that.
Celestia may be simply talking normally because her sister wasn't there to shit on her all day long whenever she did
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>>30224512
Which is more plausible, that Luna made up her own stupid dialect, or that language naturally evolves like it does for every language on Earth and for which it would be ludicrous if the basic findings of linguistics did not apply to Equestria?
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>>30224489
Alright, I'll bite.

It's shit because they ignored the fact S1 Luna spoke properly and without shouting, and not like an old timer, even Nightmare Moon spoke normally. The whole old timey shtick was added in so they could use some cheap gags, like 'what is fun?' and 'fun has been doubled', it's literally a shitty meme episode and was designed to bait the fandom in at the time with shitty skyrim references and >le clowns are scary! XPPPP.

This isn't even a joke, most ponyfags I've spoken with over the years got on board on that episode, most of those ones also waifu or have Luna as their favorite, a few of those admitted to owning fedoras, even. The subtle implication that 'fun' didn't exist in Equestria at all until Luna's banishment is fucking retarded, because we are told from the first god damn episode that ponies would play in the sun. They cast what was a character with great potential as a massive autist at best, and an angsty edgelord at worst. It took them a further THREE (3) seasons to write this out of her character and return her to her baseline state, the state she was in during the first episode.

Remorseful, but happy to be reunited with her sister.

The only good parts about that episode were the bits we saw of the mane 6 and how they celebrated the holiday.

>>30224491
I have been taught wrong, and it makes me angry. Thanks, Anon.
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>>30224522
No, what I said was that they, her and 'tia, were the only ones using the dialect, at all.
Maybe with the rest of the unicorn nobility from way back then.
It's just as plausible as all three races using English, anyway.
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>>30224526
>shouting
Because she was talking to celestia you piece of shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0WDNnxInFM
Just watch the show and listen to what she says you dumbass

Okay so now that the sole argument you had against the episode itself is cleared, how do you feel?
Other than retarded, obviously.
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How many of these classics have you read anon?

Background Pony
Anthropology
It's A Dangerous Business
Antipodes
Off the Edge of the Map
The Moonstone Cup
Night's Favored Child
Shipping And Handling
The Games We Play
Vinyl Scratch Tapes
Allegrezza
Yours Truly
Somewhere Only We Know
Pony Psychology Series
Bubbles
Progress
Simply Rarity
Earth & Sky
Eternal
Transcendence
To Be An Alicorn
The Best Night Ever
The Immortal Game
Reading Rainbow
Fallout Equestria
It Takes A Village
My Little Dashie
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>>30224526
The word "fun" is only 300 years old. I won't get into if that episode is silly or not, but if the Equestrian language evolved over a thousand years like English did, it is entirely reasonable that "fun" was not in Luna's vocabulary.
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>>30224493
Until Luna Eclipsed the majority of fanon depicted her as Fluttershy 2.0.
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>>30224533
Did you notice Nightmare Moon blowing ponies away with her voice alone? No?

Did you notice her saying referring to herself as a collective at any point? No?

Okay so now that the sole argument you had against my argument is cleared, how do you feel? Other than retarded, obviously.
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>>30224539
You cannot apply Earth history to Equestria, a little girls show.
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>>30224546
>NMM would give one single fuck about mores and traditions
>especially those that only her should practice
Okay, next?
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>>30224539
>>30224526
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>>30224555
Nice headcanon you got there, Shimmernigger.
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>>30224556
Ever heard of a retcon?
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>>30224557
Well there you go!
Isn't it easier?
Simply admitting you don't even watch the fucking show just makes everything right doesn't it?
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>>30224557
>the turboautist is a glimfag
holy shit color me surprised
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>>30224560
>>30224556

To be fair we don't know how much time passed between Luna and Celestia's arrival in Equestria, and Luna's fall and banishment.

There could've been hundreds of years of getting more and more isolated, adopting the Royal Canterlot Voice as a shield and unlearning how to speak normally.
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>>30224552
The horse-word for "fun" is ⱯŒŁ, and just as "fun" didn't exist in English 300 years ago, it so happens that ⱯŒŁ did not exist in Equestrian 600 years ago. After all, languages switch out half their vocabulary every millennium or so.
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>>30224552
Not that anon, but I feel like that's really selective reasoning to nitpick the fun thing in the first place beyond the intended humour and then draw the line at some simple etymology. Especially when Luna's big gimmick here is old(er) English in the first place so it's not much of a huge leap to begin with. So what the hell do you mean? Aren't you the one overthinking this little girls show here by not just rolling with the language development mirroring ours?
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>>30224561
Nightmare Moon not caring about traditions was never, at any single point stated in the show. Apart from the tradition of lowering the fucking moon, that is, I'll give you that one, but anything else you make up is headcanon.

>>30224564
'Shimmernigger' has been a thing since before Glimmer was even thought of. Poochie is also shit, and you're a faggot for throwing that accusation out as thought it's an argument.

>>30224565
No, we don't know, and anything we guess at is headcanon. There has been canon material made available, but I still consider it a retcon concerning how both Nightmare Moon and Luna were written in the initial pilot. People will defend this, and then go on to make much the same arguments for anything past Magical Mystery Cure, as though the show was perfectly consistent prior to that point.

>>30224566
I'm curious, what's that even from? Regardless, Luna clearly saw ponies having 'fun', she's not so dumb as to be incapable of drawing the connection of ponies laughing and having a good time, and Applejack's description of what fun was prior to using the word, but that's just me making points to support my argument now.

>>30224575
I wouldn't have minded the ye olde speak, but they handled it so poorly and solely like a gag, not to mention it directly contradicts the first episodes, which were written by Lauren if anyone needed reminding. You know, the person who came up with the whole premise of G4? You'd think they'd look at Luna in the first episode and go 'Hey, she's talking normal english, we can't really use old timey gags here.'.
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>>30224585
I just smashed symbols together to look like written Equestrian.
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>>30224594
God damn it, Anon, I love you.
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>>30224585
It's not like she had enough speaking lines before for it to feel like a contradiction If we don't count NMM. The royal we thing is affected and not something that comes out automatically. So she wouldn't use it at her most vulnerable state while addressing her sister of all ponies. You have to remember too that while the Canterlot voice and royal we seems like a bad habit it was something she was intentionally putting on in a misguided attempt to win the crowd. There was no reason for her to try that stuff the moment right after she got hit with a rainbow friendship beam.
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>>30224585
>NMM never showed not caring for traditions
Why didn't she use the canterlot royal voice then Anon?
:^)
Your autism is just as much an headcanon as mine, faggot.
Difference is that I can still enjoy my shit, while yours equals having to invent retarded excuses and nitpick stuff to find ways to hate on it

Luna eclipsed was a great episode
Even if luna is shit
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>>30224536
>How many of these classics have you read anon?
Background Pony X

Anthropology X

Night's Favored Child X (reminder that the author will never finish this fic)

Simply Rarity X

Eternal X

Fallout Equestria X

My Little Dashie X
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>>30224536
How many hours do you reckon it would take to read all of that?
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>>30224627
And that is your opinion, mine is that it's shitty brony bait that ignores the pilot. I'm not trying to get you to stop liking what I don't like.
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>>30224619
I'm looking at it from the perspective of the writing, not the in-universe stuff. The whole old timey thing, coupled with the references just pissed me off, it reeked of fan pandering.
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>>30224677
Background Pony is 400,000 words of feels. Each chapter will feel like a lifetime.
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>>30224686
It's easier to read the second time
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>>30224694
I found it harder, knowing how shit was gonna end.
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>>30224536
You forgot Project Horizons in your list
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>>30224708
That abomination is no classic
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>>30224536
I'll do it. I'll read it all and study the prose. Then use this acquired insight to write greens for anons to wank to.
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>>30224461
>HowIGreentext.jpg
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>>30224536
>No Bad Mondays
I can hear Handyman screeching
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>>30224536
>No Xenophilia
Anon
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>>30224508
This. The voice is not the language but how she says it.
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>>30224726
This. The list is shit
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>>30224536
I've read my little dashie
And nothing else from that list

I'm not a fucking normie, I read fics for fun and for porn, don't see why I'd torture myself with a 400k tragedy or some shit
Already read heart of a dragon for that, never again
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>>30224522
hate to be "that guy" since i think it would make more sense as well that everyone spoke the way luna did back then, but when twilight flashes back and watches them face discord over a thousand years ago celestia is speaking in a normal voice.
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>>30224726
>Xenophilia
I like your taste, Anon.
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>>30224738
>BUT THAT EPISODE ISN'T CANON REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Is there such a thing as a post S3 classic fic?
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>>30224757
All the good ideas were done by then, there was a lot more mystery to the world. Season 3 and 4 sunk a lot of that headcanon and mystery and left the world itself bland and explained.

Also you're being compared to the big names of the early fandom whenever you write or draw something now. There is only room for smut.
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>>30224757
Yes, anything by little big pony
Or flutterpriest's /ss/ cadenza fic
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>>30224473
>The cringiest moment was when in "To Where and Back Again," Luna said, "They've taken my sister and I!"

The cringier part is that you think this is incorrect grammar. Try a quick Google search on the usage of first-person singular pronouns.
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>>30224788
not that anon, but im pretty sure the general rule is to remove one noun and see if it still makes sense.

"They've taken my sister"
"They've taken I"

"They've taken me and my sister"
"They've taken me"
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>>30224805
Does these rules work with old english tho?
I've never studied old english or anything so I'm just saying
But it's the same as when she says "This' I who have done blablabla"
While we would go with "It is me who did these things"
nvm maybe I'm dumb
(not him)
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>>30224813
>Does these rules work with old english tho?
i doubt it, but i have no idea.
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>>30224813
Luna doesn't speak old English at that point, she dropped Ye Olde in season 3, I think, it's hard to remember because it was so forgettable.
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>>30224832
she dropped it in season 2 in luna eclipsed.
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>>30224832
What? I wasn't even talking about Luna there
But yes she stopped /because/ of Luna eclipsed.
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>>30224788
Pronouns come in two cases: subject and object.

For instance, he/him, they/them, who/whom, I/me.

The subject case is used when the pronoun is the subject of a verb. The object case is used when it is the object of a verb or a preposition.

In this case, "me" is the object of the verb "to take." They have taken my sister and me.

>>30224805
Yes.

>>30224820
Yes.
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>>30224938
also when using me it comes before the others on the list.
i think.
"Me and my sister"
not
"My sister and me."
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>>30224956
Either is grammatically correct, but some consider it more polite to put the other before yourself.
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>>30224971
the former rolls off the tongue better.
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>>30225015
Then again, shit also rolls off your tongue.
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>>30225068
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>>30224536
I listened to the Vinyl Scratch Tapes audio thing and read My Little Dashie.
I haven't even heard of half of these.
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>Pinkie goes straight maned
>le subtle cupcake reference even if it's not a darkfic
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>>30226106
>Pinkie goes straight maned
>She's edgy
Every time.
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>her marehood
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>>30224278
>Celestia will never take a royal wee on you
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>>30224278
>Ƿen yoȝ ƿrítan innan eldra Ænglish ⁊ naives can na hycgan ƿat Luna sege.

That toke way more effort than it should have.
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>fanfic has Saddle Arabian character
>no one gets beheaded
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>>30227196
What do you want, Anon? Her axe wound? Her 'little miss muffet'? Slit? Cunt? Canal? Flesh trench? Baby cannon? Love tunnel? Man eater? Water temple? Pussy? Dick sleeve? Cock warmer?

What the fuck do you want from me?
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>>30227840
Use slit if you don't want people to give you grief. It's literally the least objectionable thing.

Just don't say slit seven times in the same page and you're good.
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>>30227840
Cunt. God, cunny is literally a (dumb sounding) diminutive of cunt to begin with.
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>>30227840
Marehood sounds like she has a dick. So anything but that.
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>>30224319
>kills off a m6 member and it's not an extremely obvious darkfic

Have yet to see it desu.
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>>30228125
I would rather read anything other than slit
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>Always acceptable tier

Pussy
Cunt
Clinical terms for specific anatomy under the right circumstances

>Okayish tier

Cocksleeve
Folds
Sex

>shit tier

Everything else
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>turgid shaft

You better hope that dick isn't bloated with water.
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>>30228292
There's a Flutterrape one where Fluttershy gets stabbed to death by Discord, it was really out of place.
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>Spike fic
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/20950/for-the-ones-we-love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt1Pwfnh5pc
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>>30224767
There's an upside to this. You can make some pretty snazzy time travel fics or fics that start at the beginning of the show's timeline. It tickles my autism in a good way when details only revealed years later but were 'always there' come into play early in some AU.
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>>30227840
marehood is fine don't listen to these autists
Slit sounds nicer
Cunt is shit
Love tunnel is okay
Pussy is only okay if used in an orgy or similar animalistic situation
dick sleeve is only okay for foalcon
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>>30228692
>cunt is shit
>love tunnel is okay
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>>30228741
>liking cunt
britbongs need not apply MATE
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>>30227840
personally i try to use different words each time so it doesnt sound repetitive even though it is.
like you lick along her labia, you spread open her marehood, you slide your dick into her warmth and she clenches around you, etc.
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>>30228741
OI FUCKA, JUST STICK YA KNOB IN ME CUNT YA CUNT
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>It's an America makes an ancient, basic word for pussy on the level of dick or cock a taboo level swear so they have to invent baby talk versions of the same word like "cunny" episode
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Throat cunny.
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>>30228817
its not that its taboo, its that its the most basic word you could use and it reads like garbage.
>you slide your cock into her cunt
>you fuck her cunt with great vigor
>your cock explodes into her cunt
it sounds like a child wrote it.
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>>30228817
>it's a britbong tries to damage control when everyone else tells him that his words sounds like shit episode
>b-but it's ancient!
Yeah, and you don't see many writefags use 'ougabouga' whenever the protagonist climaxes, do you?
why are brits so fucking stupid
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>>30224432
>it's a newfag thinks /mlp/ is one person and that nobody comes here for discussion episode
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>>30229074
they do in the /ancient mlp/ thread
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>>30229087
>pic
Hooves don't bend that way reeeeee.
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>>30229109
at this point in time they can be effectively considered bendy straws
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>>30228857
Cock, dick, pussy, and cunt are basic words but this doesn't automatically equal bad. They're generally neutral enough to not distract or offend the reader and you can lay on the adjectives to spice it up. It's like a free bingo space though in that you can only use it once, if you have the writing chops to make it work. There's more to it than picking your nouns out of a thesaurus after all. If you were to replace all the cocks and cunts in your example with words you do like it would still read like a set of boring instructions.
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>>30229187
already gave an example
>>30228777

but you seem reasonable so would you mind giving an example of your argument?
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>>30229198
What do you mean? We're apparently even on the same page down to the bingo space thing (never use it more than once). If you're thinking I'm saying you can keep using it endlessly, then no. Glad to clear that up. However, in
>>30228777 you're spicing up the verbs and describing additional actions whereas with
>>30228857 the most you do is add 'with great vigor' on one line. Sopping wet cunt sounds more thrilling than just cunt. On that same note, a sentence detailing her "clenching around you" after sliding in is going to be miles ahead of "you fuck". Basic word doesn't automatically mean basic everything else. It's like chicken, not very exciting on its own but varies from good to shit depending on the cook or the dish. Also no one reasonable should it hate for that.

I'd add that you should try to avoid writing the act of insertion too much to begin with and try to describe everything else going on. You also get to avoid having to find a synonym for vagina altogether. We already know he's inside her so take advantage of that implicit knowledge and start writing how they're feeling, where their hands are going, and the atmosphere. Sometimes you break the pace to remind the reader by adding that he's savagely thrusting into her or something (notice the lack of genitalia words) and get back to that everything else bit.
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>>30229513
>We're apparently even on the same page down to the bingo space thing (never use it more than once).
>Sopping wet cunt sounds more thrilling than just cunt
its down to personal preference then. i cringe when i watch porn flicks and they talk dirty. "oh yeah, fuck my cunt with your hard cock" is just fucking awful. even basics such as "she grabs your cock" and the like just sounds like garbage to me no matter how many colorful actions you add around it. in my opinion it sounds like youre not trying if you use those words.

however im still waiting for you to show an example where it doesnt. what do you think sounds good, and which one do you think sounds better?
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>Fanfic stars a human
>All the ponies immediately accept him, giving him a house right in Ponyville, and Applejack (who has a hard time even letting her best friends help her out) gives a man who has never worked a farm in his life a job on the farm
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>>30229676
Bonus points for 'Human is an endangered species and is supported by the treasury'.
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>>30224374
You know some of the best fanfics were converted from greentext, right?
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>>30224278
>fanfic
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>>30224432
I only come here to draw.
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>>30229676
>he thinks it's hard to get a job
hahahaha yikes
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>>30224278
>Anon Y. Mous, would you assist me in percurring some triticum aestivum baked in an electronic baking appliance and some Malus pumilas?
>o-o-o-o-h-h-h-h, h-h-h-e-e-e-e-l-l-l-l-l--o-o-o-o-o t-t-t-t-t-h-h-h-h-h-e-e-e-e-r-r-r-r-e-e-e-e a-a-a-a-n-n-n-o-o-o-n-n-n-n
>Wehyll yeeeeeeeehaaaowdy ya'll! How's is ya'lls dewin'? Ah is feelin' like a rattler in a pigs bawhl shack! Yeee haaaw!
>Oh Darling, it is simply a darling day my simply darling anonymous darling
>HeyanonhowareyouI'mdoingfinetodaydidyouknowwe'reinagreentextheylookit'sDeadpoolforsomefuckingreason
>Like, I'm like totally having an awesome day tonight anon, I've been like totally dashingly awesomely radically
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>>30230063
This made me laugh harder than it should've
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>>30230063
every time.
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>>30224432
Which is why I filter almost half the board.
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>>30224813
"Thou" isn't even an Old English word. Hell, Shakespeare's plays weren't even Old English.

>>30224526
>I have been taught wrong, and it makes me angry. Thanks, Anon.
You were probably taught a specific rule that was misapplied. "My sister and I" is fine when it's the subject of the sentence, not the object. "My sister and I went to Ponyville" is fine, for example, but not "The Mayor of Ponyville greeted my sister and I."

When in doubt, just remove the non-pronoun and see if it still works.
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>>30230175
Meant to say that it isn't -just- an Old English word. It survived much later than that.
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>tfw when this thread, even with the bait and shitposting, manages to be a better discussion of fanfic than /fimfic/

It's a low bar, though.
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