Why does FIM have such a low IMDB score compared to other popular

>>30216317
Because unlike MLP no one down-rates other popular children's cartoons out of autistic spite.

>>30216317
FIrst of all, why do you care?
Second, it's because the quality is highly inconsistent and there are a lot of mediocre episodes and some really bad ones in addition to the good ones. Also, you might notice how the first two seasons have a better average rating than the latter ones.

To be honest, Steven Universe is just an all-around superior show. On a personal level, it doesn't hold the same place in my heart as MLP, but by anything approaching a set of objective standards--short of maybe the voice acting quality--SU is just better made.

The other two, not so much. But like >>30216335 said, the other shows don't have armies of pure autistic rage endlessly toiling against them.

>>30216392

>SU is just better made

Okay, I just watched several episodes of SU.

1. Yes, the animation is better than FIM simply because it's traditional hand-drawn animation. FIM does incredible things with Flash, but it can just never compete with frame-by-frame animation.

2. The writing is good, and seems to be more "adult" with more complex plots. That's neither good nor bad in my opinion. FIM manages to do some pretty incredible storytelling while maintaining its "kid-friendliness".

3. Watching only a few random episodes, I saw multiple instances of heavily implied homosexuality and men turning into women. Is this a regular occurrence? If so, that turns me off from watching it.

>>30216317
Steven Universe and Adventure Time actually dig more with their material, whereas this show is filler and bullshit.

I give zero fucks about Star vs.

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>>30216335

This

>>30216317
Adventure time appeals to a broader audience and no one has to feel shame for watching it. And it's a really good show

>>30216392
You're right, the voice acting is better.

>>30216317
Because creepy old men are watching it

>>30216777
1. Yeah, that's part of it.

2. It's not so much about the more adult themes, but the fact that it starts with initially confusing or abstract ideas with the intention of later following up on explaining them. Instead of throwing out something weird or crazy and later retconning it to make sense with everything else, it will expand on a very basic but not fully explained idea and tie it in to the rest of the story in a way that makes sense and probably explains things that didn't make sense in earlier episodes.

3. It's full of SJW shit and it only gets worse. I won't apologize for it or deny its existence, If you can't stand that kind of thing then don't continue watching.

>>30216392
No. You're just young.

t. animefag

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>>30216392
Nope.
Not gonna touch that steaming fetid pile of social justice.

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>>30216317
because Star is best girl

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>>30216392
I tried watching SU.

The main character is such an annoying cunt to me. I couldn't stand him.

Like, I know its a kids show - and himself being a kid means he makes mistakes. But you build this massive narrative, and then hold it down by some stupid kid making a dumb mistake. Its annoying to me. That's why i fucking hate Spike episodes.

There is no fucking reason to why these characters need to be this fucking DUMB.

>>30217015
Why do people like this show. I watched two or three episodes, and it was just a bunch of fast-talking lulrandom.jpg shit. Does it get funny or well-written later?

>>30216939
>No. You're just young

I'm old as fuck actually. How old are you?

>>30217060
its common consensus that after episode 8 the show got better due to a change of writers/director
season two is also much better than season 1

>>30216392
fuck off sjwbait faggot

>>30217047
This. Steven himself ruins Steven Universe.

>>30217298
Thanks anon. I'll give it another chance then.

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>>30216392
Well, I'm a musician myself, so I pay close attention to the music and background music of cartoons all the time..

SU is nowhere near the level of MLP in terms of music. That Daniel Ingram guy is a genius songwriter too.

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>>30217309
thats the spirit anon

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>Steven Universe gets higher rating than Star VS

>>30217298
THIS

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>>30217317

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is it bad that i like Star Vs better than mlp?
im really rooting for starco, but everyday it feels like theres a less and less possibility of it happeneing

>>30217347
Nah MLP could be better, you don't love something because its perfect but because you think it can be better, its why autists complain over stupid shit, in there own strange way they are showing how much they love and care about what is presented to them, the people who are content to enjoy something without seeing its flaws have never truly loved it.

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>>30217347
I'm actually starting to move towards liking Star VS better too.

I'm rooting for starco too, but you do realize it's definitely happening right?

>Everyday it feels like there's a less and less possibility of it happening
Blood moon ball demands it's gonna happen, plus have you even watched the fucking S2 finale!?
It's happening

>>30217347
>>30217359
dies irae anons,
dies irae

>>30217317
>>30217347
>>30217359

Go back to your fucking containment board

>>30217314
That's probably true. They definitely add more musical queues in the MLP episodes based on the character who's talking and the emotion that's currently being conveyed. it tends to get annoying after repeating the same thing a few times, but maybe that's just me.

>>30217347
>>30217359
>not rooting for marcapoo
also season 2 finale kindof pushes it further away from starco by seperating them, yes star admitted she likes marco, but then she just fucking leaves
and she also said she's forcing herself to like oskar again
>>30217375
haha no
>>30217382
>telling someone to go back to their "containment board"
>on an actuall containment board made specifically to contain the autists on that "containment board"
also a little bit of conversation never hurt anyone anon

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>>30217390
She said she's trying to force herself to like Oskar again, but she fails miserably 20 seconds later cause she LOVES MARCO!!!
Don't Care if you're a marcapoo fan (even though thiccapoo is thicc) starco is happening!

>>30217375
Still haven't understood the theory, do you have a link for explanation?

>>30217523
>Still haven't understood the theory, do you have a link for explanation?
We were talking about it in the thread
Its so ridiculous that it works
>>>/co/92900897

>>30216317
Those other shows weren't fucked over by toy executives three seasons in.

>>30216317
Bronies, stereotypes, and Target audience.

>>30216392
I have seen MLP, SU and Star Vs and i can honestly say that:

Star vs Evil>SU>MLP

>>30216317
Because MLP isn't that good, all things considered.
There's just a couple things that takes it over anything else, like the songs and the porn.
I'm not okay with svtfoe being better tho, but SU and AT deserves to be above.

>>30217994
That wouldn't affect the show itself though even though I imagine lower brows don't care for the difference. moreso the pandering from that aspect, same with target audience. more like the show is actually a 7.7. it's good but it's not upper good.

adventure time has a weird psuedo depth stuffing that satisfies.

>>30216392
I watch SU and Star VS unironically and I enjoy both of them.

However, I find SU to be all-around inferior to MLP. It's still good, but hardly has any perks that put it over MLP, save for bits of cross-show continuity.

Star VS comes closer, as it actually makes use of the fact its target audience aren't literal kids and executes some relatively heavy plotlines right. However, these are a few gems in an overall less entertaining show than MLP.

Not to mention, MLP has its own gems, which are on par and better than anything in the both shows - they are just children friendly.

I have two episodes of MLP I dislike - I don't think they are "bad" per say - just not really on MLP level - they missed the formula of what makes an MLP episode enjoyable. Meanwhile, about 20% of Star VS episodes vary from bad to "meh" and at least half of SU episodes vary from "meh" to dogshit.

>>30216317
Because IMDB thinks that MLP gets "10"s from spam and "1"s from professional critics.
The average score it has is 8.5 and 9.3% of votes are "1"s.

For comparison, SU is 8.7 with "1"s being 4.8% of the total.

2013 pretend-PTSDfag revenge.
I actually like SU, in spite of all its sjw silliness (like omg the main characters aren't either gender hurrrr), but I think mlp is way better off simply because Hasbro leaves potential sjw shit ambiguous enough that anyone not turned off by the whole "rated for children" thing can hwadcanon it away so they don't feel like they're watching a liberal propaganda piece, despite the show being rebooted by a feminist.

>>30218202
> hwadcanon
> lowercase MLP
> liberal propaganda piece in a show with republican values
yer kind ain't welcome here, straaaangeeer.
Right about the faust tho. she's still nice but not perfect.

>>30218211
>with Republican values
I would say Libertarian (Yellow, not Red) more than Republican. Their state only really steps in for national defense, as far as we know, and their economy, from what little we know, seems self regulatory.
Also, their coins are called bits. Bit coins.
Case in point though. It's ambiguous enough that anyone who isn't a dumb communist can headcanon away the things they like and don't like.
Also, /mlp/ is lowercase. Does that mean that our board title isn't welcome here?

>>30216317
>FiM low comparative rating
Read /mlp/?
It's not like we don't know how to criticize.
Audience to other children cartoons are actual children.
(Or retards who thinks a show like Simpsons isn't repetetive and stupid.)

>>30218240
>It's not like we don't know how to criticize.
The vast majority of as don't.

>>30218232
> Also, their coins are called bits. Bit coins.
pretty hard to take you seriously right now.
it's a monarchy or some shit.

>>30218245
> as
> don't know how to criticize.
Like 80% of the board is critism and overanalysation of the show and shitty fanfics though?
There it is again! What's going on?

>>30218267
>critism
When you're pointing out others' typos, you should really double-check your own text for them.
>Like 80% of the board is critism
What you're calling criticism is, in fact, degenerate whining produced by hyperactive faggots who don't even watch the show most of the time.

/mlp/ has its share of great and constructive discussions and criticism, but these are on the rare end. Most of the time said 80% are nothing but mindless doomsaying.

Saying "80% of the board is cretinism" would be closer to the truth.

>>30218259
That bit about bit coins was, most obviously, a joke. I can't help but notice how you handwaved everything else away by arguing just this.
>they are a monarchy
Wrong.
A monarchy implies a single ruling elite, and a single royal family. There are four, potentially five rulers, and a potential fifth (Flurry Heart), not all related by blood. This power is split between two families: Celestia and Luna's family, and Twilight/Cadence, whom are only related by way of marriage, meaning technically there are three separate bloodlines. Also, none of them are queens, making this not a whateverarchy, but in practice a principality. Now, principalities *can* be monarchies, but can also be sovereign states.
In terms of power, things seem to be more or less left to local leaders, whom may be elected democratically (this is the most logical conclusion, since the children in schoolare introduced to the concept of voting, which would make no sense in a truly feudal society). They more or less are only ever seen actually acting when dealing with a national crisis, or to resolve things that would constitute violations of the NaP. This means that they are, despite all the royal grandeur, acting in the way a minarchist society's leaders would. Their economy is still seemingly devoid of any regulations whatsoever, as evidenced by Flim and Flam being allowed to poison their own product. No authorities were called, the market simply told them to fuck off. Additionally, Filthy Rich's presentation of his market strategy suggested tactics equivalent to monopolization, a practice that is, on paper, illegal in most of the modern world. Filthy discussed it in the middle of school, to children, with no fears. His practices are not illegal.

Finally, take note that I never actually said that Equestria was in fact a libertarian society, only that they had very libertarian values. You're trying to say that I said they flat out were libertarian.

This is a straw man.

>>30216317
Looks like it's because flaming homosexuals are the primary source of IMDB ratings.

>>30216317
MLP has a horrible good to bad episode ratio.

Nothing else. Plus all the shit that people liked from seasons 1 - 3 started to die off. Musical numbers? Interesting stories? Neither happen now.

Instead we get waifu of the week, meme faces and flanderised versions of character portraying the EXACT flaws they solved in prior seasons thus creating terrible consistency and ignoring prior plots.

MLP is a great show for people who like it but it's hardly a 'great' show for everyone else.

Thats why Adventure Time and SU get massive amounts of support from normies. It's just more suited to everyone.

>>30218363
>Musical numbers? Interesting stories? Neither happen now.

You're full of shit
literally last season there was a musical episode that was nominated for a leo award for best musical score

>>30216317
Probably the work of wanna-be trolls with too much time on their hands who get bent out of shape by colorful ponies.

>>30218045
Your opinion is garbage. Star is shit.

>>30218658
>1 episode for the whole season
really proved him wrong there friend

>>30218045
>>30218670
Yes, star is meh at best. It would be great if it wasn't another randumb SoL show.

>>30218705
We're aren't even halfway through the season

>>30217337
It was spoilered. It was your fault for clicking it.

>>30218738
And how does it go against what this anon >>30218363 said?
more than half the episodes we got this season are shit.

>>30218764
>more than half the episodes we got this season are shit.
Hot opinion detected

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>>30218772
poochiefag detected

>>30216963
>He says on the board for the hardcore Femenist show

>>30218156
What are those two episodes?

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>>30218764
>more than half the episodes we got this season are shit

is this faggot serious

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>>30218858
>mobile poster
don't get caught shitposting while in class Anon!

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>>30218809
Watch an episode of Steven Universe for an example of what a "feminist" show looks like, anon.

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>>30216392
>"Steven Universe is just an all-around superior show"

You have to be homo, tranny or tumblrian to enjoy that shit

>>30216392
>characters are ugly anthropomorphic shapes
>literally looks like something a child would design
>trash sjw plot lines
>pretty decent songs
>bad "so randumb! lol xD" humor

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>>30218865
Jokes on you, I'm in summer vacation

>>30218670
>>30218713
I tried really hard to like StarVs (watched the first episodes) but ...
It feel only like "LOLRANDOM" is the only thing they know, but unlike other "weird" shows they don't actually build on it, it's literally just lolrandom.
Same problem with the villain, it's cliché as fuck (for a kid show), but they don't actually build on the cliché.
The art style is nice, but everything feel so stale and boring.

... unless that become massively better past the few first episodes ?

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MLP has a cast of entirely talking animals, and is therefore superior because talking animals a cute

>>30217324
If you're gonna kife my OC, you may as well have kept the filename.

>ITT

https://youtube.com/watch?v=PPjt-J0hh9o

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>>30218938
I'm >>30218713 btw
Well, season 2 is better. 75% are still lol randumb, but WHEN they finally get around to make shit happens, it happens.
It's great really, the two parters gets me hype as fuck.
But yeah, the lol randumb is so hard to swallow.

But there's a 2hours movie coming out in a month, and I EXPECT it to be full of happenings so....

And the villain becomes great. Really interesting. And messed up.
I mean I'm mostly in for the waifus desu. The happenings wouldn't be enough if the waifus were shit, so it's up to you to see if you can bear with it.

>>30218713
>>30218938
>I watched two episodes and know everything about the show

>unless that become massively better past the few first episodes
Only one way to find out, isn't there?

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>>30218957
You messed up your quotes there didn't you?

>>30218839
The Crystal Empire arc. It was the only time I had asked myself "Should I really continue watching?"

>>30218985
What is wrong with those episodes?

>>30218985
The S3 opener? Yeah, I agree. Those really left a lot to be desired. Poor Sombra... What a waste of a good design.

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>>30218985
>>30219062
RIP dark magic/corruption plot

>>30216317
It doesn't pander to LGBT

>>30219062
>>30219094
Not just those, the crystal ponies themselves were wasted. They just made them regular ponies dipped in shoe-shine and live in rocks instead of houses.

>>30219126
Eh, I don't mind that. Because I have an x-ray fetish.
and it's not like the show ever tried to give us more than ponyville, save for an episode here or there.
We just had yakyakistan and it was disappointing, to say the least.

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>>30216335

I'd genuinely ban your entire ISPs right now if I could. You are considering the shittiest cartoons known to man to be good.
The dumbest, most retarded, disgusting shows which only an insufferable idiot could write and get it aired on TV.
Then because of how ingrained you are in this shit decade you feel the need to apologize for the garbage and start to argument from the wrong starting points.
"Steven is a kid" no Steven is worse than Chowder and Spongebob because a stupid sane character never gets autistic 5 second realizations and acts like a roleplaying immature idiot who just discovers something for the first time.
You are the cancer killing this board, it doesn't matter if you're 40 if you act just as retarded as this generation of smug degenerate hipsters with a vocabulary so fake and cliche that I start vomiting when reading it.
Speak like a normal human being or kill yourselves, you actual autistic rpers.

>>30219012
>What is wrong with those episodes?

The sudden appearance of a whole Empire;
A villain with a neat design and negative amount of personality
An overall feel of "what's going on and why are we doing it?"
Badly presented uninspiring songs - ponies don't really "talk" with songs - they either sing actual songs or do musical numbers.
The sense of "I don't really care" you get from new random characters that said to be retroactively important while actively showing they are not.

For example, I raised an eyebrow when Twilight ended up suddenly having a brother. However, the two following episodes made enough work to make me care about the new characters and then it all exploded with an insanely amazing finale.
Season 6 Gabby episode made me go "ehh" when CMC started to talk to Gabby via singing, but they changed it into an all-out musical number soon after.

I do think The Crystal Empire was very good visually and I grew to appreciate it for what it brought for the MLP's lore (though, RIP dark/alicorn magic) and I generally like the "Spike's a hero there" continuity, but when I watched it for the first time I did not feel the enjoyment I get by watching MLP - even from the weakest episodes.
It took almost the whole first half of Season 3 to fully recover from it and confirm that ponies are still good.

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>>30216317
>>30217347
As a Pinkiefag, Star Vs managed to scratch an itch I've felt for a long time.
The characters of Star Butterfly and Pinkie Pie are pretty damn similar but only the former gets properly explored and tested. I'd love to have an arc where Pinkie goes through similar trials and troubles but MLP just isn't that type of show. Star Vs, however, is taking the time to set up a huge character arc for Star. It's amazing. I love seeing happy, genki girl type characters goes through tough struggles.

Star Vs actually has some stakes and some pretty damn neat lorebuilding at this point. MLP can't really compare to that. That said, it feels like MLP is much better fanfiction matieral than Star Vs. There's a lot of stories you can tell in Equestria, using all sorts of pones. Ultimately Star Vs is a grade above MLP but, on the other hand, MLP is a grade above SU. SU is like Star Vs if it did everything wrong, which makes everything fall apart. The nice thing about MLP's episodic nature is that most of the time, a dud of an episode won't affect things too badly. Hell, even a dud of a season.

>>30219335
I greatly enjoy both Star Vs and MLP, and I pretty much agree with you.

MLP is cut to be a SoL show, and it works out pretty well that way. It has some soft arcs, continuity and 2-parters, but you really could skip these and mostly still understand what's going on (except maybe Glimmer stuff now). Because of its SoL nature, too, they can explore a lot of different themes and character interactions. Also, like you said, Equestria is such a strong setting

Star Vs. does continuity and plot better, generally. But its world is kinda... Well it's okay. They've got earth and Mewni and whatever dimension that thick princess is from, but everything else is pretty weak or just a gag. But that's not all bad - the gags make for some fun SoL episodes, and you can ignore it for continuity. However, sometimes there are gags they shouldn't ignore, but do anyway. Most notably, when Marco aged another ~20 years trying to earn his dimensional scissors, then returns to his young life/body and just hands over his scissors to Star. This is something that would make a huge impact on his character (and in ponies, it would - Glimmer's and Discord's pasts are a huge part of their characters), but they just pretend like it didn't happen. Another thing is that sometimes, the tension this show has just... Doesn't quite fit. It's hard to take it seriously sometimes after all the other inanity going on. It's the same problem Adventure Time has, but not as bad - it can't seem to decide what it wants to be.

Not to just trash Star Vs. that is. It's still one of the best cartoons right now. Another credit to it is that Spider with a Top Had episode. I'd like to see MLP do something like that.