This is the only place I've been that thinks Glimmer

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/mlp/ loves to hate.

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>>30150932
So it goes.

>>30150932
This my friend...is hell

>>30150932
Congratulations lost traveler, you have stumbled upon a place of truth.

>>30150951
>be in the opinionated minority
>still think you're correct

>>30150985
>Oc shoved down our throats at every turn
>Made to be as powerful as alicorn Twilight without even going to magic school
>Can switch anyone's cutie marks no matter how powerful they are
>Is made to be friend's with fan favourite characters who don't get much screentime
She's the definition of a shitty mary sue, the fags of the fandom who like her are fucking retards

>>30150932
Poochieniggers never cease to amaze
>w-why dont you love my astonishingly OP mary sue! reeeee!!

>>30151047
I never said that, I just said I hadn't been anywhere but here that thinks that.

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>>30151038
>>30151047
>Mary Sue (noun): An idealized and seemingly perfect fictional character.

It's funny how some Glimmerhaters think she's flawless, while others believe she's too flawed.

I find people who think she's a mary sue ridiculous. She mind-raped her friends and didn't realize it was wrong. She is an extremely flawed character.

>>30150932
This is the only place that likes Nyx

>>30151062
Thats not the 'flawless' part.
The flawless part is that shes still friends with the mane6 after that, and they forgave her at the drop of a hat.

>>30150932
We Know Drama™

>>30150932
>place
/mlp/ isnt one person.

>>30151071
You still think she's "an idealized and seemingly perfect fictional character." I think that's ridiculous.

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>>30151073
You're right, /mlp/ isn't one person but everyone has the exact same opinion

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>>30151085

>>30151062
Mary Sue is definitely the wrong term. But she *is* the definition of corporate-mandated character, specifically the brainchild of Mike "I'm Totally A Creative Type" Vogel who was planted by Hasbro and is now writing for the show for some reason despite him coming from a marketing background.

>>30151078
He's saying that we can see her flaws, but in universe she's "perfect" because no one gives a fuck about them. She's much worse than a Mary Sue because at least a real Mary Sue is perfect, Glimmer is not, she just makes everyone around her a complete idiot when literally everyone ignores her flaws.

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>>30151089
Oh wow, a "someone speaks out so it's bait" I totally didn't see that one coming. Thanks for proving my point.

>>30151091
It's not even corporate. She was literally made by the writers as their pet projcet.

>>30151099
>It's not even corporate. She was literally made by the writers as their pet projcet.

So you're saying the show has run out of good ideas and the writers are just injecting it with as much nonsense to keep it going long enough to fulfill their agreement to Hasbro?

>>30151110
Don't ask me a question you don't want the answer to.

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>>30151110
>the convoluted narratives that autists will invent because they fear change

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>>30151072
Too right.

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Glimmer is unironically one of the best things to happen to the show.

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>>30151099
How is that everyone working out for you, senpai~

>>30151124
Kek.

>>30151138
Too true.

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>>30151140
here

Shall I remind you that even Faust herself preferred us over other pony places because we are honest, and not asskissers like EQD?

>>30150932
Go back to where you came from faggot.

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>>30151153
Anonkun, do you need the whole collection?~

>>30150932
That's because places like EqD and Ponychan gladly eat the shit Hasbro feeds us whether it's good or not.
This place may be full of doomposters and people who haven't liked the show since S1 or S2, but it's one of the few places where criticism of the show makes sense.

>>30151099
>It's not even corporate. She was literally made by the writers as their pet projcet.
Did you not read the rest of the sentence I wrote?
>the brainchild of Mike "I'm Totally A Creative Type" Vogel
>Mike Vogel
Aka, the guy from corporate who suddenly became a writer for the show, and who is also (partly) responsible for the new changeling look.

>>30151162
But like /v/, you've let that go to your head so now it's just an endless cycle of how everything is terrible.

>>30151167
I only had that nix, I thought you might want to add it

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>>30151172
this. theres a difference between being honest and simply shitting on everything to feel like some sort of fucking patrician.

>>30151168
Each time a new season starts I go back to EqD and give it another try, but the comments there literally seem like every single one is being paid by Hasbro to suck the show's dick. I know Hasbro is not capable of that amount of shilling, which makes it even worse since that means there are that many people who legitimately defend every new flaw in the show as somehow making the show better.

It's funny how when someone dislikes something, they're asked to clarify why, but it has to have objective reasoning or it doesn't count. When someone likes something, they're never asked to clarify why they like it. When they clarify because they feel like it, it's always wrought with their own subjectivity and no one calls them out on it.

So I ask you now Glimmerfags, objectively clarify why you like this character. Vagueries will be dismissed; if one of your reasons is "character development", then expand on it. Explain your reasoning.

Yes, you can consider this an essay and you will be graded.

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>>30151176
Baitpone is all I need in my life, baka

Glimmer ruins SOME things, not everything.

I like Glimmer, Shimmer and Nyx while also enjoying fan content and still enjoy the show. If FiM is going to be the endless series it wants to be it will have to replace the mane 6 every so often anyway.

>>30151191
>expecting Glimmerfags to respond rationally to such a reasonable request
I'd love to be proven wrong though and see some well though out responses.

>>30151201
I wish you were killed right now. I wish someone broke into your house and stabbed you several times. I wish you choked on your own blood. I'm totally serious actually. I hate you, fucking piece of shit.

>>30151168
It only makes sense half the time, remember this board's population of crazy overdramatic autists that hate change and revel in absurd headcanons. It's just that no place is perfect.

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>>30150932
Sounds like someone forgot to take their medicine.

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>>30151191
she has many flaws shes trying to overcome. its interesting to see twilight deal with another magically talented pony. its interesting to see the different ways twilight passes on what she knows to her student, and starlight passes on what she knows to her own mock student. its great to see the characters interacting in new ways with a new personality type. it opens the window to a lot of new writing possibilities. it allows writers to explore other characters that may not have worked well with the current narrative using the m6 as we saw with the latest maud episode. most importantly i like her character.

>>30151171
They're hardly even selling toys for her. Her character doesn't really appeal to little girls aside that she's pink.

Vogel has been involved in ponies for a very long time, and he seems legitimately excited to finally get to write for it. Like him or not, but he's not a typical corporate suit.

Glimglam doesn't make any sense if you look at her as a corporate pet. She doesn't align with grubby toy sale strategies. Why aren't you complaining about Cadence? She's more like a Mary Sue than Glimglam.

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>>30151214
edgy shit go back to /mlpol/

Oh that's right, you can't!

>>30151062
>I find people who think she's a mary sue ridiculous. She mind-raped her friends and didn't realize it was wrong. She is an extremely flawed character.

Gonna ask you to read what you just wrote there.
How the FUCK in any way does that make her a likeable, charming character?
She's a sociopath, which would be interesting actually... if it was fucking intended by the writers.

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>>30151191
Starlight Glimmer provides a new dynamic to a show that has mostly expended the potential of the mane six by fulfilling their potential. Her distinct personality and role afford new friendships and types of episodes such as No Second Prances, Every Little Thing, Celestial Advice, Rock Solid Friendship, and A Royal Problem. She does not compete with the mane six, is not shoehorned in as a seventh, but rather is forming and developing natural friendships with formerly ancillary characters, bringing them into the main cast as well, affording novelty and potential where the mane six are becoming increasingly stagnant.

>>30151264
People are just going to say you're being vague and nebulous in the absence of a concrete justification for her existence.

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>>30150935

>>30150985
The majority is often retarded. This is why a a pure democracy is inherently flawed as a form of government.

>>30151274
Why does Patrick Stewart age so gracefully?

>another easy bait thread
>55 responses in less than an hour
Whew guys

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>>30151256
She consistently violates other ponies' personal space, from mind-controlling Big Mac to mind-raping the mane six to swapping the princesses' cutie marks. It is part of her personality.

>>30151186
There ARE actually many negative comments on EQD, but they're quickly downvoted and deleted by mods. It's like they're paranoid that the show will be cancelled if they criticize it.

>>30151268
I don't think so.

>>30151264
You're being vague and nebulous in the absence of a concrete justification for her existence.

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>>30151292
I know you're just making a joke of >>30151292, but come on, I took >>30151191 seriously, and the concrete justification I specified as being that the mane six have largely achieved their potential.

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>>30151283
This is bait or you're genuinely retarded enough to believe anyone sane would like such a person.

>>30151264
You like glimmer because you find the mane six boring?

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>>30151301
Many of us Glimmerfags love her for it.

>>30151303
No. I love her for who she is, but that is subjective, as >>30151301 implicitly notes. In that post, I was providing why she is a good part of the show.

>>30151301
He can't understand what sane people like.

>>30151237
>Why aren't you complaining about Cadence?
Because she's not stealing the spotlight of the protagonists and making them look bad so that she can look good. She's kept where she belongs, as a secondary character that is never the focus of anything.

>>30151315
But finding the mane six boring is subjective too.

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>>30151332
I did not say they're boring, just that they're running out of potential because they have largely achieved their potential. Top Bolt was a great episode, but meeting their parents last season and this is scraping the bottom of the barrel. There is not much left to do with them. Glimmer was the writers' decision, not Hasbro's, and I am pretty sure this is why.

>>30151300
They haven't achieved their potential. To say they have reached potential is appreciation of lazy writing and plot work. I'm ok with it, since it is a show intended for little girls. It is lazy writing, though. A thoughtful story-driven show operates differently. This show is product-driven, the merchandise and marketing come first. Again, it's apples and oranges to compare this show with a serious show like ST:TNG, TWD, Dexter. It is also apples and oranges to compare this show to well-written comedy like CYA, IASIP, or even Seinfeld. The show is meant to sell toys and provide a simple lesson. In this case, continuity will not, and arguably should not, restrict the writers. It's why good comics companies create alternate realities and bad ones just ignore continuity altogether. This show is designed for lazy writing. Let's appreciate it for what inspiration it provides, but not pretend the writing is particularly well-developed, otherwise.

>>30151315
>Many of us Glimmerfags love her for it.
This is where I think I lose Glimmerfags. Those actions listed are pretty vile and receive no where near the level of retribution they would normally accrue if performed by nearly any other character and yet Starlight is never held accountable for them outside of weak apologies, and yet they somehow find this trait '''''''endearing''''''''.

It's your taste and you do what you want with it but it's like trying to understand certain fetishes, I just can't see any remote appeal.

>>30151264
>Starlight Glimmer provides a new dynamic to a show that has mostly expended the potential of the mane six by fulfilling their potential.
This is such bullshit it's laughable. There's always something new you can do with a character if you're creative enough.
If what you say truly was the case, there would be no more fanfiction using the Mane 6. It'd all be dried up by now.

>Her distinct personality
What about her is distinct? Really, tell me. As far as I can tell her only interests are magic and... kites. Depending on the episode she can either be eager to learn more from Twilight, nervous about it, or simply can't be fucked.

Really, whatever she does, Sunset Shimmer has done better. Their arcs are almost completely identical. The problem is Starlight was instantly redeemed in the space of five minutes, when Season 6 could've been about her slow acceptance into Ponyville. What a cool arc that could've been. Instead, Sunset Shimmer achieves in about an hour what Starlight can't do within a whole season.

Hell, Twilight's done this whole thing FAR better than Starlight has because enough screen time was given for her to
A) Mold her own personality
B) Have unique experiences with her new friends
C) Take time to learn new lessons and develop

Twilight appears in every episode in Season 1 and in many episodes in Season 2. That was a deliberate choice. It was needed to develop her as a character and her arc.

>She does not compete with the mane six, is not shoehorned in as a seventh, but rather is forming and developing natural friendships with formerly ancillary characters
The fact that Starlight floats around between the Mane 6 and other ponies is a problem. What the fuck is her role? I don't think the writers even know. So she's just obnoxiously about, looking awkward. If Celestial Advice had stuck her somewhere else with her own friends it could've been cool. But no, that's too daring, let's just keep her Ponyville.

>>30151363
Stop ruining my thread with your long-winded diatribes.

I love how the Glimmer defense always comes down to
>I don't want to see more episodes where Fluttershy learns to be assertive again!
>I want to see more episodes where Glimmer does exactly the same again and again and again and again because she can't learn anything for her life, and that makes her interesting.

>>30150932
i want to ruin glimmer with my dick

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>>30151363
I don't know who Sunset is beyond that she's a character in EqG, but Glimmer's distinct personality is part of why many people dislike her. We were just discussing it, e.g. >>30151283.

Another aspect of her distinct personality is her brazen bluntness, from telling Pinkie in RSF that she "ruined everything" to ARP when Twilight says, "I'm not much help, am I?" and Glimmer bluntly states, "No."

>>30151264
Ok, I very much dislike (not quite hate) Glimmer I won't lie: I'm a Shimmerfag, but at the same time I agree with the points you've made.

The reason I personally dislike her is because, to this day despite having 2 1/2 season to do so, they haven't addressed the horrible things she's done except in passing as jokes, and they glossed over her extremely rapid rise from despot to being Twilight's star student. What makes her deserve to be Twilight's student? That has never been addressed.

If she had suffered any consequences for her actions like Sunset did immediately after trying to take over the human world; if the writers and thus characters in the show actually treated her the way they treat the mane 6* in terms of expressing sorrow, regret, acceptance, then I would have a much better opinion of Glimmer

*for the most part. There are of course the MMDW-like episodes of the series where the characters act completely out of character and opposite to lessons they've supposedly learned in the past. But I'm talking in general, like 75% of the shows episodes which are good or great.

>>30151402
Almost every member of the Mane 6 has been blunt several times throughout the show's life.
So much for 'distinct', huh.

>>30150932
Glimmer is a symptom, not the cause. The original staff that made the show most people loved have almost all been cycled out and the ones we have now are hacks.

>>30151348
While I see what you're saying I think the idea of introducing a new, blank-slate character to fill in with easy to write stories about friendship lessons, many of which the Mane 6 have already gone through, is a lazy crutch. I feel like they're trying to re-capture S1 magic with Starlight just starting out in her friendship circles, and for nostalgia's sake I'm fine with that once or twice a season. But if I wanted to feel like watching S1, I'd go watch S1. They should focus harder on writing for the Mane 6 BECAUSE they've finished most of their arcs.

When one arc ends another should begin, and the writers should be focusing on making ones that challenge their refined characters and progress them even further, because even if Fluttershy has finally learned to be assertive and Applejack has finally learned to put away her pride, there's possibilities for taking the new personalities and creating a brand new story that actually does something with their development rather than leaving it out to hang.

>>30151402
>Another aspect of her distinct personality is her brazen bluntness
If you are unfamiliar with Sunset and like this character trait of Starlight's, I might recommend you go watch the Equestria Girl movies, this is a pretty big part of Sunset's character is that she's forthwith.

>>30151285
of course they're paranoid
if the show dies, then the site will go down and the people working on it will be out of a job
they're sucking Hasbro's cock so they can get a paycheck

>>30151417
oops, I meant 1 1/2. I can't count.

>>30151444
I watched the first two, and they were both awful. It doesn't help that they're teenagers, except for Sunset who's some emotionally stunted thirty-year-old who attends high school in a teenage body. I have no interest in expending any more time on non-canon things.

>>30151427
I think a real issue is that the writers realize they've completed all the mane 6 arcs they really wanted to do, and keep expecting Hasbro to finally not renew the show for another season. But it keeps getting renewed, so for the past 2 seasons they've resisted starting any new overarching storylines (except Glimmer).

And it's been confirmed that season 8 is happening, right? Or am I making that up? I thought I heard that somewhere.

>>30151463
>I watched the first two, and they were both awful.
That's exactly why you should watch them, to know how everyone else feels while watching Glimmer episodes.

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>>30151478
>everyone else

>>30151463
>both awful
Please provide non-vague/nebulous reasons to support your opinion. That is the point of this thread.

Honestly if you completely dismiss EQG because "it's awful" then it will be impossible to have a rational conversation with you

(I'm not the person you responded to and I don't know if you're the person OP responded to.. so whatever).

>>30151463
>Rainbow Rocks
>awful
Say what you will about the first one but there is nothing wrong with its sequel

>Emotionally stunted thirty-two year old
What mane pony, including Starlight, doesn't fit this description?

>>30151482
>these many shills
Oy vey

>>30151482
Just being in a majority doesn't make you right.

>>30151482
The silent majority didn't rate the episode though. ^:)

>Glimmer will NEVER EVER have a scene as kino as this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgyAHFCjlwQ

I could write a whole fucking essay on how good this single scene is.

>>30151492
This thread isn't about EqG and I have no interest in discussing it.

>>30151482
>implying all those 10's, 9's are because of STARLIGHT

People liked the episode for Celestia and Luna spotlight which has been long overdue, you can't use Royal Problems as a measure of how much people like Starlight because she wasn't the draw. It's like if you posted polls of everyone loving Amending Fences and used it as a measure of how good Minuette is.

>>30150932
>progresses too quickly in her studies
>beloved by the main cast
>uses magic on problems
>overpowered unicorn
Not even a Glimmerfag and even I think it's ridiculous how no one gave a hoot when Twilight fell under all these. At most you'd just hear people complain about wings and Hasbro.

Apparently Sunset suddenly becoming an element of harmony to defeat the sirens and later accenting to magical girl alicorn to fight Twilight was "brilliant". But the map calling Starlight is ridiculous, WTF?

>>30151508
It was still a Glimmer episode in addition to being a Celestia/Luna episode. Amending Fences was a Twilight/Moondancer episode.

>>30151506
Everytime I see my second wife scowling at my first one like this, I die a little bit more on the inside.
Thank you Anon.

>>30150932

Go to Derpibooru's season discussion general thread, you'll get your fill of it there too.

>>30151507
t. fan of the fandom

>>30151524
No, what made the episode was Celestia/Luna and twiggy Anon.
Everyone hated starlight in that episode, save for you faggots.

>>30151508
Minuette is pretty fucking great though famila.

>>30151524
Do you have a strawpoll for Every Little Thing She Does or the Crystalling? Those are the only Starlight focused episodes I can think of that doesn't have an extremely popular secondary character like Trixie or both the Sisters to draw upon for a much higher score she doesn't deserve (Rock Solid Friendship I would also accept because Pinkie while definitely the focus was the worst part of the episode, and Maud has never been that popular)

>>30151507
Multiple people have pointed you at EQG just to show you how character development done right is, but you refuse to acknowledge it. Yeah, the first EQG wasn't great, and yes, this thread is about FiM specifically. But EQG just happens to be related to FiM and provides a response to many of the complaints about Glimmer.

Would you refuse to accept other examples of good character growth? A:TLA? Heart of Darkness? The Odyssey/Iliad?

>>30150932
>This is the only place I've been that thinks Glimmer ruins everything.
Because this is the only place that isn't a brainless Hasdrone hub.

Your disgusting waifu fucked up the show beyond repaid and it will be remembered as such, no matter how hard you whine and try to defend her.

She was a huge mistake.

>>30151515
>I think it's ridiculous how no one gave a hoot when Twilight fell under all these. At most you'd just hear people complain about wings and Hasbro
Are you really saying that you think that they're essentially the same character but you can't understand why some people prefer the original to a copy? Are you serious? No, please, do tell me.

>>30151543
Where are these polls even coming from? I know I didn't vote in any of them though would have liked to before they got screencapped into immortality. I'm not on /mlp/ 24/7.

>>30151556
Right after a new episode airs in the show discussion threads

ATTENTION

ALERT

Glimmer is a massive PSYOP to distract us from the real threat: humanized posters.

Who destroyed our entire sense of lore integrity? The humanized posters.

Who drove away 99% of our community artists? The humanized posters.

Who is responsible for the death of our very own home by driving everyone else out? The humanized posters.

Pay ATTENTION to the FACTS. The humanized posters are our only one and TRUE ENEMY. This entire Glimmer business is a PSYOP that has been orchestrated as DISTRACTION from the real threat. YOU ALL FELL FOR IT because you don't question authority and just accept whatever is served to you as "franchise" and "canon".

WAKE UP SHEEP.

ALERT

ATTENTION

>>30151562
Not for nothing anon , I think humanized posters are cancer too, since they have like 5 generals up at a time about humanized ponies, but glimmer is something thats actually happening in the show

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>>30151533
Every Little Thing.

#wrecked.

>>30151556
They're done every episode discussion thread.

Dammit, >>30151571 for >>30151543.

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>>30151561
>>30151571
Cant argue with that, I guess despite being the way she is the majority of /mlp/ likes her and we should just accept that it wont be changing anyones opinion any time soon. I guess glimmers natural talent is being forgiven despite all her glaring faults because even anons irl are affected by it .

>>30151515
Neither Twilight nor Sunset ever rendered the others completely useless like Starlight did on S6.

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>>30151561
>That episode has more votes in total than the Royal sister episode.
>The sheer fucking difference in votes that 9/8 have compared to every other vote.
Shills / shitposters with too much time on their hands certainly dont exist, nope.

In the interest of fairness, i wasnt the guy who asked for polls, i think strawpoll is a terrible way to accuratly gauge opinions on anything controversial, it's far too easy to spam vote.

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>>30151590
The reason >>30151571 has a 291 votes while a Royal Problem has 206 votes (that isn't "way more") is probably due to that this time around Canada ruined the timing.

>>30151482
>203 votes
>>30151571
>300~ votes (2 and 3 cannot be seen but the pie-graph implies they're roughly the same as 1)

What the fuck happened? The Discussion thread for A Royal Problem was fucking massive in terms of threads/posters it went through too

>>30151571
Kek, haters will keep on hating but Glimmer episodes have been some of the best.

>>30151609
>>30151604
Canada.

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>>30151609
Go figure, when you say "if you don't like the show, get off my board!" sometimes people actually get off your board.

>>30151590
What you really want are viewer ratings. And it's fact that Season 6 has been the lowest rated out of all the seasons.
This means one of two things is true:
A) People legitimately hate Glimmer, enough to stop watching (or at least her episodes).
B) Glimmer simply isn't good enough to keep people invested. If she was, there would be a definite spike to reflect this.

In either case, it ain't looking good for Glim Glam!

>>30151604
>>30151609
You'd have to compare total votes for other episodes of season six to get a more accurate reading, but even then it's not foolproof.

Fucking canadians.

>>30151614
>>30151604
Alright, what do the Strawpolls look like after they're re-posted in the Discovery Family release threads? Parental Glideance should be updated by now

>>30151640
82 votes. Apparently, like myself, no-one gave a shit about that episode.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12914887/r

>>30151283

Are you happy to relate and enjoy a train to of disregarde for others feelings? She is the definition of someone you don't want to be friends with, but here we are getting her put in every third episode to show how much of a burning garbage fire she is. Sociopaths can not change because they don't see their actions as incorrect. I would love if she would have stayed at bad pony and not made friends with the main 6 or if they would just completely rewrite her character, but instead we get a constant message that it's ok to accept someone who will manipulate you and your feelings for their gain. It's fucking maddening that people say she is a good character with flaws. The only reason she didn't fuck up the Celestia/Luna episode is because while she was the catalyst for the story, she wasn't in it much past kicking off the plot.

Fuck that horse, fuck Jim for forcing a sociopath to be friend with the main 6 instead of having an interesting villain, and fuck the writers which keep allowing her into the story.

>>30151652
>Asked: May 7th
Damn. So that was in both the thread back then and this past weekend's thread?

>>30151659
Apparently.

It's just Canada again. Things have been inconsistent this season. With S7E10, there was hype, so everyone gathered when it was released. With Parental Glideance, not so much, so Canada ruined the cohesion.

>>30151630

The real truth is that Discovery Family simply isn't as popular as the Hub was, and people are moving to digital format. TV as a format is dying and the old style of ratings are losing their relevancy.

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>>30151630
But they may look at it's strong points (ie Glimmer) and it's weak points (ie mane 6) and shift the focus of the show accordingly.

>>30151670
Ah yes, the website that regularly shills for Trixie and Glimglam.
Surely there's no bias from their regular readers there.

>>30151670

Where the fuck is this poll from?

>>30151670
Why does this look like obvious rigging?

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>>30151670
I agree, Equestria Daily's polls are surely a clear sign of where Hasbro should take their direction in S8....

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>>30151682

Because it doesn't fit your narrative.

>>30150932
people like to argue a point that they think will make them special, is all, and we're very special in /mlp

>>30151689
If Starlight ever makes mention of Sunset in the show or otherwise canonizes her, I swear I will take back every mean thing I said about mind-raping commie horse and will join her legion of shills.

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>>30151699
If this happens and glim glomper is the reason shimmer becomes canon ill find the nearest glimnigger and ill suck his dick and swallow

>>30151667
And the 11:30 timeslot doesn't help

>>30151038
this is a fucking kid's horse show, wth even is this mess. like, literally none of the episodes make sense and it's not even a very good show, but somehow this character bothers you so that liking it makes you a retard? hue, lost in the irony.

desu, she's not even that bad, probably picked up some of the collective resentment from others. if i had to bitch about a pony now-a-days i would definitely shit on pinky.

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>>30151726
>if I had to bitch about a pony nowadays, I would definitely shit on Pinkie.
This desu senpai.

>>30151667
While partly right, the actual "real truth" is that the fucking canadian airings are fucking everything up.

>>30151071
well, the episodes DO have to end with a happy note, so... it's like putting a nice ribbon on a piece of poop, but meh, they refuse to stretch the story of each pony beyond a few episodes cuz the character development is nowhere and then BOOM, fucking alicorns everywhere. like in the first seasons, each mane six had several episode where they'd be given a lesson to not be self absorbed or autistic, then they'd accomplish/learn something, but then they'd go back to square one with the very same problems on their next episode.

>>30151689
That poll needs context. I wish these screenshots had the date in them. The poll you just posted was before season 6. Starlight hadn't started becoming what she is today.

>>30151071
also, it's a theme for princesses to fuck up and get a get out of prison free card, like twi(eqg too), luna, shimmy... maybe they make her a princess, yo. all their names have that daytime theme.

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>>30151699
Holy crap I hadn't even considered that happening. That would more than make up for two seasons of shit character development if she canonizes best pone/best human.

If that happens I can't wait to see the shitstorm that goes down though.

>>30151256
they're all sociopaths? just look at rd.

>>30151776
Fair enough, but here's a poll from AFTER S6 wherein we can see if we're going by what fans want, Shimmer still holds an edge. I don't think she's won enough people over from her show in S7 so far to radically change this.

It is also worth noting the one from before Season 5 has 10000+ more polls than this or >>30151670 , which implies the show has lost a lot of viewership since Starlight's introduction

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>>30151833
*before S6
also fucking forgot the pic

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>>30151844
Welp, you guys might be cynical with your Glimmer hate, but the rest of the fandom is retarded.

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>liking a sociopath

>>30151699
>>30151788
>>30151702
Even if she's the one to make EqG irrefutably canon, I'd still hate her

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>>30151853
Then again, it might look like that here as well, with all this EqG cancer. >>30151699 >>30151788 >>30151865

>>30151862
It's kinda insulting because that assumes being a sociopath is a bad thing...

>>30151833
>>30151844
>Season 5 has 10000+ more [which] implies the show has lost a lot of viewership

While the show has lost viewership, it is more related to the known fact that Equestria Daily has been losing a lot of readership. A week or two ago Seth made a big post about how since season 3 or something with each hiatus they lose a big chunk of readers, and the numbers don't recover when the next season starts (they go up but not to the level of the previous season).

We can definitively say that FiM is past its peak in terms of popularity, online at least. We'll see how the movie affects that (personally I think it's going to bomb and only drive people away from MLP, but I'm a pessimist. I'd like to be proven wrong.)

>>30151874
Does your love of Glim-glum have anything at all to do with hating all the Sunset and Equestria Girl threads that littered the board in 2013/2014 and Starlight as a potential Mane 7th in place of Bacon-horse helps to invalidate her and further >nohooves from the actual canon and offers an effective means of triggering Shimfags?

>>30151264
Pretty much this. The Mane six characters who had any kind of meaningful arcs (Twi, RD and Rarara) all saw them completed. And think about it, Twi - the main character of the show - had her arc rushed to completion at the end of S3. That was supposed to be the end. You could feel the writers flailing around for a premise during seasons four and five. They really couldn't come up with anything that strong, so we get the Glimglam show now. Better than nothing, but certainly not the show we started watching almost seven years ago.

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>>30151862

Dude, some of fiction's greatest and beloved characters are sociopaths.

>>30151874
Not sure why you're surprised. Sunset was a pony toy first, an EQG character second with her first moments in the movie being in pony form, and finally with her backstory as a pony in the comics. To top that off, Flash Sentry got canonized as a pony in the show.

They could easily bring Sunset into the show and make it so she "came back from an adventure from a land far, far away" without ever mentioning the human world or the mirror.

There's really nothing to complain about at this point if it becomes reality. It's like denying that Twilight's story wasn't building up to her graduation from Celestia's student.

>>30151690
Keep sucking up the shit that's served to you poochienigger.

>>30151124
this sums up my thoughts on this thread too well

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>>30151095
>she just makes everyone around her a complete idiot
And that's why Glimmy is the best character. She's like soooooo smart. All her episodes are best 10/10 other episodes are annoying yelling and bad and sucky and I don't like them. Glimmy is best character!

>>30151934
Some of its most despised / hated characters are sociopaths too, it goes both ways.

>>30151939
can't really validate (You)r opinions when they're inherently wrong, right?

>>30151506
Can anyone tell me why sunsets voice sounds like Trixie? Havent watched FG or the other one yet.

>>30152044
not even close
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7268GWrgAs

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>>30151167
Fuck why isn't there any lewd of baitpone yet

>>30151506
>eqgshit
>even remotely good as the show
try again

>>30151095
Real Mary Sues are usually heavily flawed. Sonichu is an overly sensitive crybaby with a neurotic aversion to pickles and lives on welfarebux in a creepy soulless pantomime of family life. What makes them Mary Sues is that the author won't or can't connect the dots between the flaw and the consequences of those flaws

>>30152065
Wow. I guess when you go so long not hearing your waifus voice you dont e>>30152079
ven recognize it anymore.

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>>30152079
Sagepone is cuter.