>if this dream continues, it could have a serious impact on

>>30149138
I guess the ponies that go crazy are the ones that have too many cuckshed dreams.

>>30149138
their dreams seem to be far, far more lucid than human dreams. that could account for it having real impacts. could this be linked to their inherent magic?

>>30149138
>FIM
Who cares?

>>30149138
The serious impact being that Glimmer might think before casting spells on her friends.

>>30149190
These two are more like acquaintances so it's ok.

>>30149190
It would be serious indeed, if she stopped being a fucking sociopath, not even the sociopath morons who defend her because they can relate to her sociopathy would like her.

>>30149172
like everbody

>>30149138
>Kid's show just told millions of children that dreams can really hurt you. Permanently.
This kinda amuses me a tad desu.

>>30149513
>>"You must fix this or it could cause permanent damage to her psyche!"
>Your 8 year old niece then turns to you.
>"Uncle Anon, do you concur with the assertion put forth that mentally simulated stimuli can have permanent adverse effects on your cognitive faculties?"
"Y-you too..."

>>30149513

Just imagine how many ponies got fucked up that night because Celestia only got around to Starlight's nightmare, instead of all the nightmares in Equestria which is what Luna does every single night.

>>30149138
I thought this was some non-canon comic stuff? How did that Celestia end up in the show.

>>30149535
To be fair, she got to Luna's nightmare too, kind of.

>>30149532
>10 year old niece turns to me
>"Why don't they just wake her up, Uncle Anon?"
"Plot contrivances, lass."

>>30149532
Kek.

>>30149513
have you ever had a bunch of literal gods trying to kill each other inside your mind? I don't think so

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>>30149138
>How to spot an idiot executive/director in animation:

>Only nocturnal creatures need cat-like pupils.
>Touching a person by their chin is highly offensive and can cause broken arms and lawsuits.
>Only sociopathic douchebags do that and they often end up dead afterwards because most people do not allow that.
>Mike Vogel is an idiot.

>>30149172
>fan of the fandom
neck yourself

>>30149932
Her pupils kinda look like little flames

>>30149932

you have nothing, vogel guy.

>>30149932
>how to spot redditors
>only them can talk of biological facts when talking about a cartoon full of magical talking ponies
thanks for your input!

Literally no one gives a fuck about what pupils looks like Anon. Everyone knows that slit pupils = evil, it's as simple as that.

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>>30150200
>Everyone knows that slit pupils = evil, it's as simple as that.

>>30150250

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>>30150250
Fuck, forgot the image

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>>30150250
Wait, you didn't know Spike was evil?
He's a fucking dragon Anon.
Look how evil he is.

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>Sunbutt has no idea how to initially handle what's going on in the dream
>this implies that for 1,000 years, ponies all across Equestria probably had endless nightmares
>including that night, when all they were doing was messing around in Glimglam's dream

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>>30150258
>lipstick on a pony

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>>30150292
>not wanting your waifu to smother you in kisses and leave her mark all over your body, showing the whole world that you're hers and hers alone.
faggot

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>>30150258
oh gosh, I really want to get covered in lipstick kisses now

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>>30150310
I know Anon.
I know.

Starlight already has PTSD though. Can she get super PTSD?

>>30150346
Of course she can, she can do anything! <|^:)

So what happened during those 1000 years that Luna was banished?

Was Celestia doing Luna's job or did countless ponies just go insane from having nightmares during that time?

>>30150388
>Was Celestia doing Luna's job
She didn't, because she couldn't. Dreamwalking is not in her skillset.

>>30150264
>>30150388
Unless I missed something frim the episode, it is a possibility that certain unicorns would be deeamwalkers during the time. After all, unicorns used to be able to collectively raise the sun and moon.

>>30150419
They would need the talent to actually do that, unlike with the sun and moon. If there's any highly magically talented ponies that can pull that off they'd be incredibly rare to come by.

>>30150388
They were all susceptible to the nightmares, unless Luna could enter the dream realm within stasis while in the moon.
It was never implied that Celestia has domain over the dream realm, this meme needs to fucking end

>>30150388
Considering most ponies are fragile little snowflakes who break down at the slightest hint of adversity, I'd say Celestia did fuck all for their mental well beings.

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>>30149138

>>30151538
That's flat out not true. Ponies have always shown to be inspired by Princess Celestia, as shown back all the way in Season 1.
Remember that among her duties is to address large scale concerns and emergencies (A Bird In Hoof, Lesson Zero, backed up by A Royal Problem) and to help ponies form relations with the other kingdoms. Ponies are just frightful folks, end of story.
She had to keep up a powerful image for her entire thousand year solo reign, which was no easy task. It's likely the darkest timeframe Equestria has ever seen.

>>30150419
Dream-magic seems completely separate from unicorn magic, just like alchemy is separate and can be performed by any gifted pony.
Could be unicorns, could be zebras, could be ponies of any race, really.

>>30149172
Why are you even here?

I wonder if NMM gave people nightmares in the short time she was back on earth.

>>30150419
I have wondered that myself. Would make me feel sorry for the poor dreamwalkers forced into retirment when Lunas return made them redundent.

>>30149535
That equestrian got on just fine without her for a thousand years makes me believe that either Luna is trying to make herself seem more important than she is, or she's actually convinced herself that it's true.

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>>30153556
>>30151854
Its not as if the children that had Luna's guidance are more well adjusted and psychologically secure than the adults or that the vast majority of the adult population seem to have some sort of personality disorder or another...

>>30153556
>That equestrian got on just fine without her for a thousand years

We don't know that for sure though. I mean yeah it's still in one piece and most ponies are doing fine by the start of the series, but 1000 years is a long fucking time. We know less than 1% of what went on during that time, and even if everything was just fine, we saw from the S5 finale that Equestria was a ticking time bomb due to explode at any moment without the elements of harmony.

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>>30149151
when can we start reporting this cuckshed faggot?

>>30149138
>Discuss.
No!
Spoonfeed me!

>>30154754
He's been banned multiple times.
I didn't see him these last few days so I believe he just got out of a 3 days.

>>30149809
>"That'd only avoid the problem, not solve it, Uncle."
>"Just like you have been your entire life."

>>30153556
Maybe if Luna had been around when Starlight was a filly, she could've sorted out her shit before it got out of hand.

>>30149138
>It is canon in the MLP universe that dreams can give you PTSD. Discuss.

Wasn't it canon they are far more dangerous than that? That idiotic episode which introduced Luna's deus ex machina sleep entry powers had literal dream monsters (though somehow ponies fared well with both monsters and PTSD dreams through Luna's 1000 year prison term, go figure).

Also, that dream was fucking caused by Twilight deciding to meddle in ONE map assignment (when she ignored others, even ones she was greatly interested in before) by screaming and spying on Starlight 24/7. That is supposed to be a princess of "friendship"?

It's like she didn't learned fucking anything in No Second Prances, except this time her meddling had a chance of not ruining the lives of two ponies, but ALL of them seeing both princesses were about to be permanently scarred by the whole mess Twilight stirred poking her nose into business that didn't really concern her. If Celestia didn't luckily happened on Luna's dream to get her advice Twilight would be the only one to blame for resulting fallout (though I am sure idiot Glimmer haters would invent some convoluted reason why Starlight was to blame despite faring pretty well till Twilight tripped her with constant whine).

>>30156822
You're trying too hard.

>>30156106
>"What do you mean avoiding the problem, Uncle?"
"I'M NOT REAAAAAAAAAL"

>>30150200
Hasbro go to bed and hang yourself in your nightmares.

>>30156885
Hey /pol/-kun!
How's that cuckshed meme going? Already came back from your 3days ban? Damn the time flies so fast!

>>30156892
You smug little shit, all you want is a good fuck from uncle /pol/, don't you? Beg for it, faggot.

>>30156905
Hahhaha
It's funny how you think you're hot shit because you come from there. You know, the place infested with shareblues and redditors?
I browsed /pol/ you were still trying to get past your mommy's parental control softwares to access your naruto porn, faggot.

>>30156822
>(though somehow ponies fared well with both monsters and PTSD dreams through Luna's 1000 year prison term, go figure).
Starlight apparently didn't fare too well, nor did the ponies who willingly gave up their special talents and entire way of life to follow her (seriously just take a second to think about how fucked up your life has to be for someone to offer to take away the one thing in life you're good at and make you equally shit at everything and you think "yeah that sounds better than what I was doing before")

Keep in mind, this same headcase almost royally fucked up the time stream 7 times over just by stopping one pegasus from breaking the sound barrier one time. Think about THAT too. Your whole future hinges on one pony performing one act at just the right moment or else it all inevitably goes to hell.

But sure, let's stick with the idea that Luna was never important at all.

>>30156961
>Your whole future hinges on one pony performing one act at just the right moment or else it all inevitably goes to hell.
That's a bit misleading. Equestria is a place of harmony, where destiny as a concept determines everything. We know from It's About Time that time can't be changed in Equestria, everything is predetermined by fate.

With powerful magics though, this harmony CAN be warped and twisted, creating false dis-harmonius Equestrias. It doesn't really matter so much what Starlight does when she's using the map, even the tiniest thing WILL upset the future, because she's displaced destiny itself.

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>>30149138
>in the MLP universe that dreams can give you PTSD
No, they are not.
For a thousand years literally nobody controlled dream realm and ponies are perfectly fine.

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>>30157184
>perfectly fine

>>30157229
>everybody is CURAHZY
Very funny memes.

>>30157269
>each character has had at least one episode where they struggle with stress and anxiety to the point where they suffer mental and emotional breakdowns
>MEMES lel

>>30157229
But was that a result of nightmares, or just misfortune, social upbringing, and day to day life?

I find it hard to believe that dreams were the most significant factor in those developments.
Fluttershy chose to make her whole life about animals, because she was picked on and probably ostracized for being a weakling. Social structure was likely why she became the local recluse.

Appul was raised in a family culture where your work was most of your life.

Twilight exhibits the more common symptoms of autism, which is genetic in nature.

Rarity runs her own business, and did so alone for who knows how long. That alone is a significant stress factor. Also, her breakdown came more from balancing her personal life and her career, and less about being a perfectionist, though that probably didn't help. She was also emotionally unstable by nature, if her dramatic outbursts were anything to go by, and she taught herself to bury her problems by eating.

Pink is an attention whore who didn't take being ignored too well, probably due to being an extremely socially oriented pony who previously had no creative outlet, and no actual friends outside of her family for her childhood, which is exactly the sort of thing that makes kids create imaginary friends and hallucinate shit. Well, that and certain biological factors.

Rainbow dash was a narcissist and an attention whore because she was good at winning, pure and simple. Her problems were mostly tied to public image and her need to be the best at everything she did.

Keep in mind, too, that these are also an extremely small sample size of the ponies in Equestria. Most of them get little more than names. I find it hard to believe that an entire, successful nation is secretly buckling from nightmare induced psychological damage. Equestria lasted a thousand years without Luna, and without falling apart due to something as common as nightmares.

All that in mind, i think Luna's comment was specifically about Starlight.

>>30157494
Dreams are an effective therapy, a natural way the subconscious deals with trauma.
Most of what you describe would have happened with or without Luna, but if Luna is there as a guide the trauma can be lessened greatly.

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>>30157534
Oh I agree, Luna can help out, a lot. She can induce a lucid state into troubled ponies' dreams, and she can help them understand the subtext of said dreams. She's quite good at it.

I'm just saying that I find it hard to believe that most ponies are so fragile that nightmares can give them all PTSD. It's much more likely that the majority of ponies are fine, more or less. Ponies from ponyville really aren't a great sample for Equestria as a whole. Sure, it's home to their national heroes, and a few other decently well known ponies to boot, but it's also a mayhem magnet. They're next to a forest full of life, some of which is remarkably unfriendly. Ponyville has been destroyed often enough, and imminent danger is so commonplace that the local populace calmly discusses how long it'll take the the m6 to deal with it.
Then there were the arc villains. When Nightmare Moon came back, she came back in ponyville. When Discord came back, he dicked around in Canterlot, then promptly fucked off to ponyville. Tirek also brought the fight close to ponyville, though in his case he also went around Equestria to siphon magic.

The denizens in ponyville overall endure far more trauma than most places shown so far, which is probably also why they're all so fucked up.

Though, I wouldn't be surprised if they had a lot of nightmares with all of that going on. Luna definitely had her work cut out for her.
>you will never have qt moon horse rescue you from a nightmare and bring you peace

>>30157494
But that's the thing. Nightmares aren't the problem. They're mainly a symptom of a larger issue which, without knowing what's causing the nightmares, could go unnoticed. Basically, Luna helps ponies deal with thoughts/feelings/insecurities that, if left unchecked, could have lasting psychological consequences.

>>30157624
I understand that. My posts are aimed more at the "nightmares give ponies PTSD" headcanon.