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How could Starlight connect with her so well? Or at least, well

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How could Starlight connect with her so well?

Or at least, well enough. Was this the first friend Maud had really made without Pinkie being there? Weren't Rocks off putting to Starlight like they seemed to have been to everypony else?
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Because the writers wanted that
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>>29976383
They connected through autism.
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>>29976383
Because they're both side characters with direct ties with the Mane 6.

The chemistry just works.
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She only looked at gems. Everyone likes gems.
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>>29976383
Both of them don't want to talk about themselves. Both are autistic. It works well.
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>>29976383
glim glam is autistic, just like maud
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>>29976420
>>29976534
>>29976559
How come the autism on /mlp/ makes us repel each other?
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autism attracts autism
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>>29976436
>side character
>3/4 episodes
>SIDE CHARACTER
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>>29976383
>How could Starlight connect with her so well?
they were both outcasts in their own way. starlight seems to now think that being different makes you interesting rather than dangerous. it was great to finally hear a show preach "its okay to be weird" rather than "no one is weird everyone is normal"

>>29976577
and yet you keep coming back. really makes you think.
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>>29976628
>Glimmer isnt the focus of all 3
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Their both mega autistic in their own way. So they bonded over shared autism.
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>>29976383
>How could Starlight connect with her so well
Because Starlight is inherently superior than all of the main 6 in every way possible, didn't you undestand it from the last season?
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>>29976383
They both have autism
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>>29976684
I've understood since the beginning of S5 my dude
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>>29976652
primary storyline is twilight and her experiences. needless to say theres still more story about her than glimmer.
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>>29976383
Starlight went in with no expectations, whereas the other 5 thought Maud would be more like Pinkie and thus tried to interact with her in a way they're used to.
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>>29976383
Starlight honestly reminds me of early Twilight trying to mesh with the others at the start except it feels a bit more natural. Plus they all have something in common that I'm shocked other anons on this board don't notice. They're all social rejects that are haunted by past mistakes or have personalities that others don't particularly care for. Like havong a furry, a fartfag, and a horsefucker together
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>>29976624
>starlight seems to now think that being different makes you interesting rather than dangerous.
Man took this long before there was an answer that wasn't just memes.

autism this autism that holy shit /mlp/ calm down you're capable of a good discussion I know it.
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>>29976721
>the other 5 thought Maud would be more like Pinkie and thus tried to interact with her in a way they're used to.
It was pretty clear she wasn't like Pinkie early on desu. Sure, Pinkie set some unrealistic expectations but each of the 5 did spend time with Maud and mostly it just came out as them being puzzled about Rocks.
Both Applejack and Rarity have spent more time with Maud since then, and you've got to imagine the others did at some point too, no? She was at the Gala after all.

But Maud didn't seem to think any of them really understood her, since she was out to make a new friend.

>>29976763
Others do mention it like >>29976624, but being a bit of an outcast isn't really instant bonds of friendship. I mean, initially it was never even brought up how Maud struggled to fit in, they didn't know that about each other but still got along, which is something Maud has struggled to do with anyone seemingly.
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>>29976652
Focuses on these four episodes so far were
>Twilight and Celestia
>Trixie and Starlight
>Twilight
>Starlight and Maud
in the episodes that she did take a main role in she was bouncing off of another character, not taking centre stage
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>>29977463
>I mean, initially it was never even brought up how Maud struggled to fit in, they didn't know that about each other but still got along, which is something Maud has struggled to do with anyone seemingly.
Which is why I wonder how Starlight managed to get along with Maud so seemingly easily, if even the 5 apparently didn't
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>>29976383
Im not very fond of the maud-glim pair, but realistically, who else could they have used?

Its been established that the main 6 and her wont really become true friends, and the cmcs are too young, and asuming they dont want to use a male that only realy leaves glim, trixy or cheerlee that arnt complete background characters.

trixy making another friend would have been unrealistic, and I donbt think cheeralee is main character enough for her to be considered, so glim is in fact the only choise.
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>>29976628
Has anyone been keeping track of how much screen time each character is getting this season? Starlight has to be in the lead, and not even by a small margin.
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>>29977905
kys
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>>29977687
ANSWER
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>>29977904
Really I think Rarity would have been just as fine a fit as Starlight. There's a lot of potential common ground for them.

>The love of rocks for Maud / gems for Rarity
>Maud is an outcast among other ponies, there's possibilities that Rarity's obsession with dress-making wasn't really understood by anyone in her family except her so they could bond on not being understood

I mean, Rarity's entire talent is, quoting Faust herself, 'the ability to see beauty where others cannot', so why shouldn't she have been filling the role for that this episode? Rarity/Maud make at least as good a dynamic as 'throw all the ensemble darkhorses at her to see what sticks' Starlight and Rarity would have been just as annoyed by Pinkie's exaggerated antics
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>>29978572
Fuck also, finding that really huge sinkhole hazard rock cavern out of nowhere would fit better with Rarity in some ways

>Starlight finds it by tapping on a random wall that just happens to be hollow
>Rarity's primary spell is gem locating that she could have spotted out an odd cluster of them Maud could dig to
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>>29978788
>Rarity's primary spell is gem locating
Someone brought it up in the sticky but didn't get a response, how did Rarity not find the cavern? It's a literal gem mine and she has a spell that locates gems.
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How come Starlight wasn't a bit weirded out by the rocks like everyone else kind of was
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>>29978882
This I could actually buy: just because Rarity could sense the gems doesn't mean she could know she could get to them. She has no means of digging. Her magic could have let her known the gems were always there but, due to them being deeply embedded in rock, she never thought she could get to them without knowing the stone was hollow
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>>29976383
Starlight is a fucking special cookie just like Maud
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>>29978918
>she never thought she could get to them without knowing the stone was hollow
Eh I don't know. Surely her Gem sense would be tingling af with how much of a gold mine the place was.
Surely she'd be able to sense it and if she did, follow the curiosity to see where it's coming from, and notice it's hollow?
Rarity's not much of a digger, sure, but Spike's there too, and you don't have to be a digger to notice a hollow rock
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>>29978898
It was explained in the cave, dyewte?
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Because she's a mary sue, everyone is friends with them except the evil characters who she either defeats or redeems and the universe itself will bend over backwards to accomplish this.
As Chrysalis is the only one so far to completely reject her, she's going to get glim glam'd into friendship at some point or starlight will be the primary focus that gives her the sombra treatment, mark my fucking words.
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>>29979793
>mary sue
while the rest of your post has some points,that buzzword meme makes someone stop taking this post seriously and reading it

I give it a (You) for a feedback,not because your shitpost is worth of having it
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>>29976628
At this point, I don't know if Glimmer can be called a side character anymore.

She's about as much a side character as Rarity, Pinkie, AJ, RD, and Flutter are.
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>>29976383
Starlight's more reserved and lets pones keep their distance if they want.

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>>29981497
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>>29978882
>>29978918

All she can do is locate nearby gems. That doesn't mean she can locate them by type or color.
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>>29976383
Well if you watched the episode you could see both ponies struggle in the beginning, a little bit of awkwardness with kites and ruling the world, and afterwards finding common ground when Maud discusses her fascination with Rocks which strikes a chord with Starlight's past insecurities.

Almost like those scenes had a not much deeper meaning to them.
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>>29979429
Didn't she just say she found it interesting?
Maud did mention the whole not looking down on you thing, but that was quite a bit after they were already bonding.

>>29981997
But that initial bonding seemed to be hard to do for other Ponies. The Mane 5 spent time with Maud but couldn't click the same way. I assume there've been other Ponies too. Even with that initial awkwardness Starlight and Maud chose to stick around even
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>>29976383
Did they stick together at first to appease Pinkie? Was she the real hero here?
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>>29976383

Starlight didn't like to talk about her feelings, and neither does Maud. They hate feelings, and they bottle them up instead of feeling them like Pinkie wanted them to. But one day those feelings will be too much for them. God help them then.
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>>29976383
>no one has called him out yet for his autismal use of "everypony"
Good god how this place has fallen.
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>>29982402
She was. Even when she was trying too hard, it brought them together as they dealt with her.
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>>29982486
Because the OP is talking about actual Ponies. He's not calling people here Ponies.

You're the literal definition of a retard who parrots shit he sees other people say without understanding why. You think the word is inherently forbidden on /mlp/ or some shit. You're dense af, worse still is you talk about this place falling when you don't know shit all and clearly still seem to be in the "do i fit in yet guys?" phase
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>>29982486
OP was referring to ponies in the show in context of that sentence, do you not know what context is
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>>29978572
>>29978788
There's one problem with this though: Rarity has already been shown not to be able to get along with Maud, at all. She spent an entire day with Maud in Manehattan and Rarity clearly struggled super hard to get past Maud's rock/dryness. Every interaction they had was awkward.

Them suddenly bonding would be OOC as fuck when it's been clearly shown the two are awkward acquaintances at best.
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>>29976383

I said this in another thread.

The mane 6 tried too hard to be friends with Maud instead of letting friendship happen. They only showed interest in Maud because Pinkie wanted it. The tried to "get to know her" immediately rather than hanging out and finding out about each other over a period of time.

Starlight and Maud share a more passive social personality. They don't feel the need to be open with each other and prefer a more distant relationship.

Overall, I am impressed with how the show is using Starlight. Over the last two seasons, the biggest problem for the series has been many side characters with lots of potential but no logical way to keep bringing them back because they obviously don't gel with the mane 6. Trixie, Discord, the changelings, and Maud never really became friends with the 6. The character dynamics don't work. The show is using Starlight as a focus for a structured and consistent way to reintroduce underdeveloped characters and bring new interactions to the show.
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>>29976383
Using some things from other peoples posts in the sticky to compile some reasons

>Autism XDDD (Or obsession)
The le funny joke answer, but it actually holds some weight. Maud is obviously obsessed with rocks, to a point that almost no one can understand (She was the only graduate of the rock college so it's obviously not exactly a common profession in Equestria).

Meanwhile, Starlight is also shown to be extremely obsessive. First so obsessive over Sunburst fucking off that she dedicated her whole life to getting rid of cutie marks, then obsessive over getting revenge on Twilight to the point she relentlessly stalked her, etc. And of course in this episode Starlight was obsessed with kites. This is also probably the key thing that allowed Starlight to not get turned off like the other M6: She 'gets' how it is to be obsessed with something to the extent Maud is. TL;DR their autism allows them to bond

>There's literally no other candidates.
None of the mane 5 sans Pinkie got along with her even when they tried as hard as they could. And Rara is even less likely despite liking gems because Rarity had an episode with Maud again where she spent more time then the other mane 6 characters, and they really didn't get any closer. CMC are too young so that just leaves the side characters. And going through that, pretty much none fit. I guess unless maybe Big Mac? Even then they'd probably just stand around and be boring together and Maud would move to Ghastly Gorge anyway. So Glim it is.

>Both feel like outcasts
As brought up in the ep, they both kind of feel alienated from others, and they also prefer it that way in a sense.

>misc points
They don't like opening up or having someone/something breathing down their neck (Pinkie obviously being a spastic in the ep, Though Starlight's reactions kind of fall in line with how she didn't do well under pressure/Twilight's structured Friendship Lessons).

Starlight's sarcasm fits with Maud's bluntness/dryness.
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>>29982822
>they both kind of feel alienated
Does that really still apply to Starlight? I thought Ponies pretty much accepted her now. She's even saved Equestria and got a medal for it.
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>>29982822
>This is also probably the key thing that allowed Starlight to not get turned off like the other M6: She 'gets' how it is to be obsessed with something to the extent Maud is.
Twilight can be somewhat obsessive too, but even she didn't seem to get it because the subject matter of Rocks is just a bizarre one.
It's been a bit of a put off for other Ponies, the rocks thing, how come not for Starlight?

Someone mentioned she might just find differences interesting but I'm not sure of that.

Starlight felt like she could relate when Maud said the thing about looking down on others, but I'm not sure Ponies do look down on her anymore. Obviously she can still relate despite that because she's experienced it, but even then this happened quite a bit after Maud and Starlight were already getting along
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Look at Starlight's expression when she ripped off the bells. Slightly evil and mischievous.

I guess Maud has that streak to her too
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>>29976577
Maud and Starlight have the kind of autism that turns them into savants in their areas of expertise, their competence counteracts their eccentricity.
Bronies have the bad kind of autism.
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>>29979858
Would you prefer 'poochie'?
What other term do you use for a character that can do wrong, is loved by all, has special unique powers, a tragic backstory and is just as if not more magically skilled than a main character whose main gimmick was being one of the most magically skilled.
'Mary sue' is overused as shit, but its fucking apt.
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>>29978788
>>29978882
>>29979271

Actually, if you look closely you'll notice that the underground spring Starlight found didn't have all that many gems in it, really. Even if the tunnel being lit up like a Christmas tree for her locator spell didn't completely drown out the few gems on the other side of the hollow wall, Rarity would have no reason to dig through the wall to get to a relatively small amount of gems when the tunnel itself is still absolutely loaded down with them. Sure, there were those huge gems in the ceiling and maybe she would've picked those up, but they would've been useless to her.
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>>29976383
They both have one specialism they try to apply to every facet of their life.

They both feel people don't understand them and find themselves kept apart from others.

Their are both blunt and sarcastic.

Starlight enjoys the company of weird and eccentric people like trixie, thorax and discord because the social standards are lower which mean she can relax an be herself instead of this perfect ideal Twilight has drummed into her.
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>>29983430
>They both have one specialism they try to apply to every facet of their life.
Magic, for Starlight?
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If Starlight thought her love of kites was a bit weird what made her tell Maud?
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>>29982712
The FF issue work good in this sense.
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>>29983284
if you wanna call her Poochie,you could say that
but that's like saying that the secondary characters who have taken the spotlight at certain episodes are also poochies and they are also loved

you could apply that to Thorax,Trixie and guess who's gonna have a second chance this season....
those characters are the exceptions to the rule and are special snowflakes introduced to the show replacing the mane 6

but guess what? they all come together and they bring interactions together that the mane 6 cant offer themselves

and if you ask me, does Starlight feels forced at times? Yes
however,with Trixie and especially the last ep I dont feel that way,because she's supposed to give some exceptional or weird characters to the spotlight by opening them a 2ns chance

and two of them(Maud and Trixie) were introduced way before her redemption

if you are not gonna like her and complain 24/7,okay that's fine
but by being contrarian all the time saying that she doesnt bring any good moment because "she's that flawless character introduced and she can do no wrong reeeeeeee it's ruined",it doesnt help very much t b h
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>>29983522
>having the episode spotlight is the same situation as starlight.
Anon the spotlight is on glimmer every time shes on screen.
Thorax only had one episode prior to the finale transformation.
Trixie was and still is only tolerated because shes starlights friend despite glimmer doing far fucking worse shit than trixie ever did.
The show is clearly biased towards glim glam and its sad to watch.
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>>29976383
I can't remember the source anymore but it's been proven that low emotional intelligence is linked to socialism. In effect they connected by being autists.
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>>29983484
She was reaching.

It's a pretty common thing people do when they can't think of something to say or are trying to figure someone out.

>"I like X"
>"What do you think about X"
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>>29983587
>It's been proven that low emotional intelligence is linked to socialism

I'm assuming what you're referencing is that conservative people tend to have a larger right amygdala which may allow them to be more proficient in processing emotional information.
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>>29983581
fair enough
I'm not the one responsible for her redemption and changing the scripts in between season 5(Larson original idea and what Haber executed) and that has to pay off in some way
and if you think the show leans towards her,explain me why she only had 3 eps about her,a secondary story in the premiere and a finale shared with other characters

now as for season 7,I give you the reason
but I see her as a medium for something they want to pull off,not much like WOW it's glimmer time as many faggots think...

keep in mind that the show has these two seasons(or even more,whatever the jews want it to last) and it needs to be fresh at some point...and I get that
now if it's from your liking or not,that's a matter of taste and I wont change anyone's mind for it
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>>29983484
>>29983597
Funnily enough a passing remark about something she doesn't talk about often is how she made friends with Trixie.

Now it happens with Maud.
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>>29976383
easiest way to bond: you get annoyed by the same shit -> Pinkie
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>>29983359
>Rarity would have no reason to dig through the wall to get to a relatively small amount of gems

There were loads of gems. And even if you think there weren't, there were certainly rare gems. So much so that Maud even moved there. Gem sense must have been through the roof, no?

And it's not like it took a lot of effort to break through. Starlight gave a little buck. Wouldn't Rarity's gem spell have found this?
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I don't understand all this autism shit
Maud likes Rocks. Ponies find it hard to connected with her because of that.
Starlight has a troubled past. Ponies took some time to come to terms with it.

How does that mean they bond.
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>>29983710
>She only had 3 eps about her
>Counting the christmas episode.
90% of that episode wasnt actually starlight.
And thanks for helping my point.
She's had two episodes that focus on her outside of her role as antagonist.
She spends the first one making friends with another former antagonist.
She spends the second literally being the antagonist except she says sorry at the end, and everyone forgives her because the plot demanded it.
>premiere was a secondary story.
She directly contributed to the premiere's conclusion by knowing the one autist in the crystal empire that could help fix things.
Baby alicorn having overpowered magic and Celestia+Luna being unable to hold back a fucking storm is another load of unrelated bullshit.
>and a finale shared with other characters
Said other characters being the major driving force that actually solved things, outside of Starlight telling thorax to do something completely and utterly fucking retarded that should not have worked based on what we knew of changelings and their love siphoning ability.
If anything, "giving her all your love" should have just made chrysalis more powerful and transformed HER since it was the act of being given love without having to take it that started transforming Thorax in the first place.

She's a terrible character who could be good if not for piss poor writing.
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>>29984010
>And thanks for helping my point.
Meant to add, she's only had two episodes about her yet we're supposed to care about her on the same level as the mane6.
Hell the writers may even be purposely sabotaging the other characters to make Glim glam look better if you believe certain theories, the most recent episode especially.
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>>29983827
like how does Starlight find Rocks interesting enough when no pony else appeared to
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>>29976412
First post best post.
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>>29979793
This, its also why she became friends with the mane 6 without needing to do much effort (no, a shitty montage doesn't count)
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>>29983484
She probably figured "Hey, her love of rocks is super weird. Kinda like me and my kites."
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>>29980114
This. Welcome to the new MLP. It's fantastic.
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>>29983827
>>29984300
plz
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>>29984010
I don't quite understand why anyone complains about Celestia and Luna not being able to fend off that storm. They've always been weak, the only reason they were ever capable Alicorns was because they could use the elements of harmony. The fact that they couldn't fight back a storm isn't even worth complaining about, mostly because it's to be expected.
Everyone tries to downplay the storm as if it were some weak little natural weather occurrence, but it was a storm capable of swallowing an entire empire. It seems obvious that it was anything but natural.

I don't really have any strong feelings towards this particular subject, I just find it silly that people complain about them not being capable of fending off a storm.
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One reasonable explanation as to why Starlight is able to empathize so ewll with her is the simple fact that she is a leader and that's what an effective leader does: read people. This includes especially tyrants and sociopaths. This is one of the main things that they have to do successfully. Glim had to do this with every'pony' in her village in order to maintain control. One thing that bad writing has obscured since season 5 is that she is a natural leader and this is simply part of what they do.
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>>29976383
Nah, it's just that glimglam still hates herself for all she did.
So she only ends up befriending worse ponies than her, like Trixie and Maud.
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>>29976577
>>29983253
Maud has Asperger, Starlight has autism

Somehow, they understand each other, like those schoolshooters that suicide together
>>29983430
This
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>>29983827
>>29986620
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>>29976383
>be Maud
>be quiet and stoic
>live on a rock farm in the middle of nowhere
>no real friends besides the rocks
>and Pinkie Pie
>Pinkie leaves for Ponyville
>alone again, well, you still have Boulder
>decide to take up geology
>because, well, rock farm and all
>earn a doctorate after several years hard work
>still alone
>decide moving to Ponyville is the best way to correct that
>Pinkie has friends, right? She could help.
>bring it up to her
>she's ecstatic, agrees immediately
>by chance we bump into Starlight
>we talk, turns out she's just like me. Or was, at any rate.
>alone.
>pinkie decides to set us up, but being her usual self she was overly obnoxious.
>this was a bad idea, Pinkie just overshadows me
>decide to give up the useless idea of friendship. Pinkie wouldn't ever allow you to have friends, not while she isn't involved.
>alone again, at least you still have your rocks.

Ponks is unnecessarily obnoxious, I hate what's become of her character.
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>>29983827
>>29984300
bump
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>>29979429
what
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I missed the episode pls somebody link and I'll suck your dick
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>>29991352
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5k8dc3_my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-704-rock-solid-friendship_animals
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>>29991544
I like you
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>>29990897
bumop
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>>29984300
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>>29976412
>>29976420
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