>/mlp/ complains because of too many dumb gimmicks and not

>>29877350
>Trixie cock vores Glimglam after knocking her out with a spell

>>29877350
>people want character building
>the show builds different characters and forgets again the characters people care for
>people don't like it
Yeah, it's a mystery.

>>29877350

I stopped watching this show sometime around season 3

Trixie is my favorite horse, so I checked out that one episode where she and glim become friends

What other episodes involve Trixie? I could probably watch those

>>29877350
>pure lore
...I...What?

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>>29877350
>/mlp/ is one person

>>29877400
They gave more explanation than they ever have before of what it's like for a unicorn to use magic.

>>29877350
But i enjoyed both episodes today a lot.

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>>29877388
The S6 finale and the second episode that just came out are trixie focused

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>>29877350
>first two episodes of season 7 are pure lore, character building, and comfy slice of life
>comfy

One of these days your entire collective of lying-shilling jews is going to eat their words out.

>>29877402
>>29877413
>redditors and EqD shills are /mlp/

>>29877371
unf

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>>29877429
>It was reddit raiding us!
ever get tired of being an autistic sack of shit?

>>29877413
good to know >>29877429 and the like are just the vocal minority

>>29877381
>the characters you've known for 7 years have had their story arcs nearly complete
>the ones that didn't need story arcs are becoming repetitive filler
>new characters means new kinds of adventures and more variety in storytelling
For the love of God, I'm not even being ironic, I just want the show to be about Starlight and Trixie from now on. Seeing the Mane 6 shrink into the background gets harder to watch every year.

>>29877436
>>29877441
>t. reddit

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>>29877454
ill take that as a no.

>>29877429
>No True Horsefucker fallacy

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>>29877410
I will shit down your throat if you're implying anything beyond "You need to focus on what you're doing." counts as lore building.

Starlights bullshit about feelings and that fucking anger cloud only applies to her, because she wasnt enough of a special snowflake apparently.

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>>29877451
Can it just die? The M6 part of the second episode was the best part.

>>29877381

let me remind you that once again in this season, FS learns to be assertive

>>29877483
>...applies only to her
[citation needed]

>>29877451
>I just want the show to be about Starlight and Trixie from now on. Seeing the Mane 6 shrink into the background gets harder to watch every year.
Turning the show into something completely different, with different main characters, while keeping on calling it "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic" is just insulting. Is the show over? Give us an ending, if someone wants to watch the next show, it's up to them, but this is bullshit.

>>29877486
>The M6 part of the second episode was the best part.
You are objectively wrong

>>29877507
Doctor Who's been doing it for decades and no one gives an Unidentified Flying Fuck anymore.

>>29877402
>>29877413
>200 votes out of 5000
I didn't even get to vote in that poll.

>>29877516
I don't watch Doctor Who though.

>>29877451
the sad truth is the mane 6 didn't even get character development, they got lazily written out of their main character arcs because the show doesn't have good continuity

why does rainbow dash want to join the wonderbolts? low self-esteem mostly that she desperately tries to hide by trying to make everything about the one thing she knows she's good at

does that get developed anywhere? fuck no, she's a wonderbolt now
story over

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>>29877514
>On one hand, Trixie is a giant and ignorant asshole of which she has already had a lesson in during the episode she and SG meet as well as Starlight casting some red magic cloud or anger because she was never angry before at this point.
>On ther hand we have cute friends doing cute things and acting like themselves as well as joke song and a bit of a humour.

But my teacups, right?

>>29877413
>>29877402
This. People who are upset will go out of their way to make it known everywhere. That doesn't mean they are a majority. And before newfags cry about the high ratings, /mlp/ strawpolls have voted several episodes to be shitty.

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>>29877498
Do you even watch the fucking show.
Name one other goddamn unicorn that showcased "Stronger emotions = stronger magic" or that said emotions can cause her to spring a magical leak in the form of a cloud that can infect other ponies with those emotions and associated memories.

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>>29877350
>pure lore
>character building
>comfy slice of life
>comfy
>comfy
Drama is comfy? Hear everyone! drama is comfy!!

You are obviously from a fourth world country like Korea, Vietnam, South Africa and your entire self worth and oxycotine relies on this tiny little cartoon show which you keep watching through rose-tinted glasses.
Because everything you said there is WRONG. You have to be some sort of alien to actually think that drama is comfy.

You're that same type of retard who says that a crying suicidal Luna is cute, don't you? You're a sadist.

What other cartoon shows do you actually watch? Do you regard them as superior to MLP like you should?

What are your fetishes? What is your skin color? Tell me about your girlfriend. Is she fat?

>>29877558
wicked kym filename, my dude
is it summer already?

>>29877592
I'm sorry I didn't provide you with a hilarious filename, try harder to deserve one next time.

>>29877575
Absence of evidence =/= evidence of absence. You made the positive claim that it definitely does not apply to other unicorns, which has no basis in evidence. In other words, you're pulling it out of your ass.

>>29877575
Nightmare Moon

"Consuming shining armor's love has made me more powerful than celestia!"

Magic has always been tied to emtotiojs you dumbdumb. It's kinda like, you know, the theme of the show.

>>29877635
emotions*, excuse me

>>29877578
Star vs FoE, Gravity Falls (when it was still ongoing), Star Wars Rebels, and Samurai Jack. No, they're not even half as good as MLP.

Futa ponies, lactation, accidental pissing in public.

White Hispanic American

I don't date IRL girls.

>>29877647
>they're not even half as good as MLP

How many layers of shitposting are you on? Because it's too much for me.

>>29877635
Don't forget Crystal Empire, where it was revealed that magic is affected by positive and negative emotions

>>29877687
They really aren't though.

>>29877402
>>29877413
>Taking strawpoll seriously
That's where the shills come out in full force, anon.

>>29877647
>Star vs FoE
>Star Wars Rebels
>Samurai Jack

>not half as good as MLP

Holy shit, I don't even hate the show like over half this board does, but seriously, either stop shitposting or get better taste immediately.

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>>29877516
>Doctor Who's been doing it for decades and no one gives an Unidentified Flying Fuck anymore.
Because Doctor Who is built on the premise of changing the main character's personality and supporting cast every now and then you dipshit.

>>29877607
I realise you're probably baiting, but i'm autistic enough to really give a shit about this.

Right now in the present canon not one single fucking unicorn other than starlight has shown those traits.

>>29877635
>Alicorn
Didnt change the strength of her magic, although granted this one is a bit iffy.

>Changeling queen.
Follows different fucking rules, they are explictly love drainers.

Different types of magic yes, but not run of the mill unicorn magic which has until this point followed the very simple rules of needing focus and power in order to cast properly.

>>29877692
Which was then retconned by Twilight using said negative emotion magic to trigger the magic cum potion.

>>29877575
I know, right? Next thing they say will be something dumb like 'friendship is magic' or some shit.

>>29877718
The fact that they haven't shown it doesn't prove that it's unique to Starlight. All it proves is that Starlight is the only one definitely procen to have those traits. Those are two very different things, you fucking idiot.

>>29877647
Why are Spics such worthless creatures

>>29877700
To each their own, I guess, but don't expect people to treat you seriously when you say dumb shit like that.

>>29877713
MLP is the best animated show on the air right now, and possibly ever.

>>29877747
r u d e

>>29877647
You know, i would of agreed with you if you didn't mention Samurai Jack

>>29877413
>>29877402
These charts are meaningless unless we compare the total of people that, whether they like it or not, still bother to watch the cartoon and those that only come here anymore just to masturbate to anonfics and greentext smut on their home general.

And something tells me that the people who watched the premiere don't even amount to a third of the total of /mlp/ regulars.

>>29877768
*would have

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>>29877647
>No, they're not even half as good as MLP
I already know its bait but Imma give you a reply because I'm sure writing those words even jest must have hurt

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>>29877796
Don't correct me faggot

>>29877350
>Just rewatch season 1, nothing will EVER satisfy you autistic motherfuckers.
i plan to. s1 and s2

>>29877762
Not rude in being realistic mr. """"""""""""""white"""""""""""" hispanic

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>>29877731
Yeah because that's not completely different to what i'm talking about.

>>29877743
We are literally in season fucking seven, if you introduce new magical lore you need to give an actual explanation for or at least HINT at it being a thing in previous episodes.
Neither Twilight nor Rarity, the two most neurotic unicorns we frequently see have shown any sort of magical problems related to their emotions despite multiple instances of being on the extreme end of anger or fear.
Thus "Absence of evidence =/= evidence of absence." does not fucking apply here.
Until proven otherwise, it's a thing thats unique to starlight.

>>29877858
Logic doesn't alter itself depending on what season we're in you delusional retarded shit eater.

>it's true until proven otherwise
Not how it works.

>>29877350
>Lore
What, you mean Celestia explaining her thoughts?

Because that Magic rage stuff seems specific to Glimmer. We've never seen Twilight (or any other pony) conjure magical storms over her autistic fits or breakdowns, or any other pony for that matter. Her explanation of how magic works isn't definitive either, because it would literally imply that all a unicorn has to do is imagine before zapping things, and their imagination it the only limiter.

>Character Building
For Celestia, I guess. Trixie already has had her asshat to repentant stage twice.

>Comfy
I hate this buzzword, but again, that will vary between person to person.

Personally, I didn't care for it much. The first episode, while good for celestia, really went nowhere and was resolved far too quick and easily.

The second one was okay (magic weirdness aside), although they really dialed Trixie's narcissism a bit too high. You'd think after being force-fed humble pie twice already that she would show some level of consideration much sooner/easier.

I also feel like it would have been better to have written the M6 out and just focus on those two since they didn't really do anything notable, and the song was uninspiring.

>>29877970
>it would literally imply that all a unicorn has to do is imagine before zapping things, and their imagination it the only limiter

Unless Trixie was taught the specifics of the spell earlier and now she was just training.

>>29877350
Season 1 was supposed to have classical locations, there were no cities, in fact the biggest city was Canterlot and that's it. Apart from that Cloudsdale, Ponyville and Redneckloosa, the rest was the Everfree forest. We passed from a sense of american conquer to just the shitty dull modern life. This is just We Bare Bears with 6 bears and ponies instead of bears

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>>29877916
I'm referring to the timescale you dipshit.
"It's true until proven otherwise" works when the universe is established and the characters (Not just the 2 mane6 unicorns but every unicorn in the show) have had ample time and oppotunity to showcase either of the two traits starlight displayed.
You cant just add random shit several years down the line and retroactively apply it to all characters without an extremely good reason.
If a random pegasi next episode was suddenly able to fart lightning would you apply that capability to any and all other pegasi?

>>29877970
>Her explanation of how magic works isn't definitive either, because it would literally imply that all a unicorn has to do is imagine before zapping things, and their imagination it the only limiter.
There's definitely a power issue, we see that with sunburst.
Both that and Trixie's demonstration are fantastic comparisons to starlights cloud bullshit.
The former are building on things we simply inferred from previous spellcasting situations, the latter showed up in the second episode with nothing to hint at it's existance prior.

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>ITT: autistic fucks who hate the show but refuse to leave because no other board would tolerate their faggotry.

Christ, the /hcc/ panel was more socially function than you fuckers. Get some goddamn perspective.

>>29878004
She asked for directions on how to do the spell during the episode. It was because she didn't get the full detail that the incident happened in the first place.

>>29878034
Manehattan existed in S1 if you remember AJ's past.

>>29877713
>star vs
>good
It was ruined by the mc being the reincarnation of katie teh penguin of doom.

>>29878052
Logic doesn't work that way, no matter how much your autism wants it to. There is no definite proof that it's unique to Starlight as of yet and it's just that simple.

>>29878078
>Manehattan existed in S1 if you remember AJ's past.

Shit. Then season 1 is as faulty as the rest.
Even I think it had a more consistent lore than the rest, but that is logical. As you go adding stuff the thing becomes harder to handle.

In any case I think the concept of the Everfree Forest is underexploited

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>>29878089
>There is no definite proof that it's unique to Starlight as of yet and it's just that simple.
"Until proven otherwise, it's a thing thats unique to starlight."

Lets agree on
>Starlight is the only one to show these traits right now.
and leave it at that.

>>29878089
>There's no definite proof that its unique to her
>We've seen Twilight, who was until Starlight appeared go into all sorts of levels of crazy, angry (to the point of igniting herself cartoonishly) and stressed and it never resulted in her magic straight up going haywire.

Nor has it happened with Flurry when when she got upset while still being overpowered (though her scream did shatter the crystal heart).

The only other instance we've seen of magic going haywire from emotional distress is Luna's transformation into Nightmare. Starlight's is insofar the first of her kind with this.

>>29878105
>As you go adding stuff the thing becomes harder to handle. In any case I think the concept of the Everfree Forest is underexploited

Its also harder to handle when the show kept changing hands/writers who may not be able to mind these consistencies.

I also agree with the Everfree being unexplored. The castle of the two sisters also got left to rot for whatever reason, and Zecora rarely shows....

>>29878147
>>Starlight is the only one to show these traits right now.

Sure, that's all we can say with certainty. Anything beyond that is guesswork.

>>29877970
>Because that Magic rage stuff seems specific to Glimmer. We've never seen Twilight (or any other pony) conjure magical storms
over her autistic fits or breakdowns, or any other pony for that matter.

I agree with you in principle, but I mean, Twilight's tard rage has turned her into a literal Pokemon In two separate episodes, so it's not entirely implausible or unprecedented that angry unicorn magic can manifest itself into some weird shit

>>29878166
>The castle of the two sisters also got left to rot for whatever reason
Because of that ghost that wandered that was Pinkie Pie but nobody care, so because of the castle being in ruins and everybody rejecting Nightmare Moon they decided to forget the past and embrace Canterlot. Also I have not read Past Sins, but I'm going to say because of Nyx too.
>Zecora rarely shows
That is not that bad. I enjoyed her because she was a rarely recurring character. But btw magic > alchemy, so she has no place in the new Ponyville

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>>29878240
>Twilight's tard rage has turned her into a literal Pokemon In two separate episodes
Twilight used Deus ex Machina
It's super effective!

>>29877451

>I just want the show to be about Starlight and Trixie from now on

You forgot Sunburst, Spike, Discord, and Thorax, who make up the rest of Starlight's mane 6.

>>29878293
Sounds fucking sweet, can't wait

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>>29877350
>nothing will EVER satisfy you autistic motherfuckers.

Are we the embodiment of /co/?

>>29877350
>it build upon the lore
ABOUT GLIMMER

>it had character building
ABOUT GLIMMER

>it has comfy slice of life
ABOUT GLIMMER

Just fuck off.

>>29878240
>two seperate episodes
What was the second? Obviously the ponytah / rapidash was in Feeling Pinkie Keen.

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>>29879365

>>29879365
>ignoring the Celestia character building
>ignoring the Trixie character building
>ignoring the Twilight...character reinforcement?

>>29879477
She did a Ponyta in ep 1 I believe

>>29878240
>he doesn;t understand non canon cartoon gags that larson himself has said didn't happen in the actuality that is the reality the ponies exist in.
It's like I'm the only non lying pres3 fag left here.

>>29879365
>your argument boils down to you dont like a character
kek

>>29879731
I remember when songs were non canon cartoon gags until suddenly they weren't. I guess whether those gags get acknowledged or not depends on the writer.

Granted, I think it's a dumb idea to make a visual cartoon gag the central plot point of a whole episode, but just the canonical acknowledgement of it is fine

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>>29877350
>First two episodes of season 7 are this bad
>Season 8 has already been confirmed

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>>29879952
Just wake me up from this nightmare.

>>29877350
i loved those new episodes! i thought they were great. i really liked seeing more of glim and trixie's relationship and more lore about celestia

>>29879365
>Why won't they develop this character
>WTF WHY ARE THEY DEVELOPING THIS CHARACTER

>>29880351
This

I enjoyed both of them
Comfy sol is fun.
Momlestia a cute. Trixie a cute
I actually laughed at the MENACING cutaway when celestia was laughing.

>>29880652
I liked the episodes too. They were nice. Ponies doing friendshippy things always makes me smile.

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>>29877350
It could've been worse

>>29877350
I've enjoyed both episodes, however, I do think that focus moving away from the Mane 6 is a legit complaint. I am okay with getting two-three episodes per season that focus not on Mane 6, but it's easy to see why people might not like it.

Disliking the opening episode because of Starlight is autism though, she herself barely had any screen time - she was just a topic for discussion, the episode wasn't about her.

I liked both episodes, I like glimmer, and I think moving away from the main 6 a little is a good move for the show.

t. been on the ride since /co/ started watching

>>29877428
>>29879365
>>29879952
Guys, if you don't like the show anymore, then fucking leave. I'm disappointed Poochie wasn't sent back to his home planet too, but you don't hear me sperging out about it.

>>29877516
>Unidentified Flying Fuck
Okay, I kek'd

>>29881076
Pardon me for failing on completely giving up on a show that has meant a lot to me throughout my life in some desperate hope that it might become decent again. Which it hasn't, but you seem to be aware of this if your only retort is to tell the dissenters to leave

>>29877350
I like Glimmer.
I don't consider myself a part of the fandom.

...Is that the difference? I'm only really here to see if there are any good mirrors for high quality episode files.

>>29881149
Newfag, you aren't here for the show. You are here to bitch about stuff. You can bitch about stuff elsewhere.
The difference between you and the regular "/mlp/ hates everything" lies in the fact you can't even fucking explain what do you hate. You don't know what do you want.You are just spilling memes and don't know where did they come from. Are you trying to fit in or something?
Every single time you try to state a reason to hate the show you are telling something factually wrong. It's not a matter of a personal preference anymore - you are just being autistic in the literal meaning of the world.

>>29881217
I'm going to preface this by stating that I'm assuming that you're being serious and not trolling me. If you are trolling, then I'm a dumbass.

I've been here since the end of Season 1, and I've lurked on this board for four years. I'm not just here to bitch about stuff. I've had serious conversations with people about the show; its pro's, its con's, etc. Believe it or not, it's possible to have a negative opinion about something that you enjoy without "being autistic" or "sperging out."

I can explain what I don't like. If you want me to, I have all night. I've enjoyed the show in the past, and I know what I "want" out of the show. I don't care if people disagree with me, but people like you who stifle the conversation annoy me.

Word of advice; pointing out that an opinion is "factually" incorrect makes you look like rather immature.

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>>29881293
desu I think a lot of people are just defensive against doompaul shitposters.
I personally have no problem seeing people criticize the show, but seeing a bunch of faggots who dont even watch the show spam "0/10 worst episode ever." in any sort of discussion thread is annoying.

>>29881293
>an opinion is "factually" incorrect
No one said that, don't put words you want to hear in my mouth.
Read the complete sentences and not just the separate words.

Sure - you can go ahead and state your actual reasons to hate the show. I personally won't be able to reply you as I'm about to go out, but there should be people who will.

As a someone who considers TBNE to be the worst season finale but a great episode and the Crystal Empire to be the two and only worst episodes of the whole show, I can perfectly understand what "personal preferences" are.

However the shit like "I hate Celestial Advice because it was a Glimmer episode!" or "I hate All Bottled Up because Trixie was out of character!" is factually wrong because neither of those is true.
One can hate episodes all they want but without a proper reasoning and argumentation, you can't have a proper discussion. When you have those - the discussion will eventually boil down to "it works for me" and "it doesn't work for me" with both sides coming to the conclusion of understanding each other points but keeping their own opinions.
When you don't have those - you're being called a faggot and an autist because that's what you have going for you so far.

You have reasons to hate the episodes and want to discuss them? Start by stating them. If you're here just to lazily bitch about the show - you are welcome to fuck off.

>>29881352
>I personally have no problem seeing people criticize the show, but seeing a bunch of faggots who dont even watch the show spam "0/10 worst episode ever." in any sort of discussion thread is annoying.
Pretty much the point I'm trying to make in a less offensive way.

>episode 2 is cute and funny
>/mlp/ hates it

Literally shit taste.

>>29881462
No, just some vocal autists. Both episodes were great fun. I hope the rest of the season is as great.

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>>29881488
>1488
confirmed

>>29877592
>Different opinions are summerposters
The sheer amount of unwarranted self-importance this board displays is staggering.

>>29877350
Welcome to /mlp/

>>29877713
I'm a horsefucker hot glued to the train seat and I still think SJ is leagues above MLP

>>29877718
Don't argue of snowflake's plot contrivance, you'll only go in circles. There is not enough evidence to completely prove one side or the other, just chalk it up to her being a magic adept with a specialty in effecting others and move on. We know that the lyra's and the sweetie belle's can't do this but like Twilight before, starlight is going to me misconstrued as the base line for unicorns instead of an outlier.

>>29879689
You mean the sight gag for the hot sauce? counting gags as canon leads to things like people still thinking Fluttershy is par bat.

>>29881447
"Every single time you try to state a reason to hate the show you are telling something factually wrong. It's not a matter of a personal preference anymore - you are just being autistic in the literal meaning of the world." That kind of general statement certainly implies that certain opinions (which can fall under "a reason to hate the show") are factually incorrect in your eyes. Not sure if you were directing it at me or just in general, but that doesn't lead to meaningful conversation either.

I wasn't aware that I had to append a 1,000 word essay on all of my opinions for them to be valid on this board. If there was a proper episode discussion thread, I would have gone there, but there wasn't one when I posted. I can't possibly imagine why.

>>29881689
Don't bother, the anon you replied to posted in a different thread that people who don't like the same episodes as him are too stupid to understand the show. He doesn't want to talk about the show, he only wants to repeat that his opinions are the only true facts and everyone else is wrong.

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>>29881791
>posted in a different thread that people who don't like the same episodes as him are too stupid to understand the show
You do realize that thread is still linkable and showing your pathetic behavior, selective responses, and goalpost moving is not a problem? Stop lying, or at least lie about stuff that's not two clicks away.
All your attempts to derail the actual discussion were answered to. All your misinterpretations of statements were corrected and explained. You were offered an opportunity to make an argument. You willingly decided to ignore all of that.

Your opinion is irrelevant, anon. You are miserable and deserve no respect.

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>>29881791
Color me unsurprised

>>29881864
The worst part is that you actually believe this.
Boy, PPOV should have been a confusing episode for you.

>>29881887
The worst part here is you, darling.

No, PPOV was a good episode.

Can we please just agree that no matter what they do, the show will be shit? If we do that, we can cut shitposting to a minmum

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>>29881913

>>29877350
My only problem with the two-parter is that they could have both easily been stand alones. It just seems like a wasted opportunity. Certainly better than last season's opener though.

>>29877788
Do the survey anons count the amount of people voting in order to account for the shrinking demographic? All you have to do is to scale the numbers accordingly.

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>>29877350
I've stuck with this show right from the start, I've rarely complained about an episode being bad, even magical mystery cure and Twilight's princessification. Yesterday's premiere though was literally the Starlight Glimmer power hour.

For the record, I don't hate Starlight Glimmer, despite that her motivations and redemption arc were either written poorly or out of order. My gripe is that the main characters of the show weren't even there, we saw them on screen, they occasionally had lines, but their personalities simply weren't there at all, even Twilight is getting relegated to the background now as all these secondary characters take the fore. That side bit with the mane six fell so flat that the episode could have been written without that segment at all and there would be no difference. They learned nothing, did nothing, their stories are over, the show should have finished. Except that's not what we got, they keep renewing it.

It's like Hasbro is shifting to g5, but still calling it g4 for marketing reasons. Discord is a gag character, the characters learn, forget and re-learn the same lessons endlessly and secondary characters are passed the idiot ball for the sake of filling the episode quota for a season. Episodes have been reduced to simple formulas to be used for mass production. The characters have no souls, minimal effort is put into the writing, the staff are just going through the motions now.

I just want the show to end. If they're going to completely change the show, just shift to g5 and start fresh before any appeal the franchise has is gone. Let this travesty end.

I fucking love glimglam simply because of how fucking mad she makes people.

Hail the glimglam.

>>29882522
For as long as there'll be new seasons, there'll be less and less of an excuse for them to be learning the same lessons. By Season 10, once they've diverted to a new time-wasting gimmick for the openings and finales, the Mane 6 will only appear in the other 22 episodes per season, as if it's still 2012 and nothing's ever gonna change for them.

>>29882522
Twilight's arc is over. She learned friendship and became a motherfuckin' god. It's time to bring in new characters to mentor or end the show.

I'd like the former.

>>29877418
>are Trixie focused

o-oh my

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Sweet Celestia guys, you guys have no grasp of the plot or meta of the entire goddamn series. I'll spell it out for you:

>Make friends locally
>Grow those friendships with genuine love/care/etc. and learn from each other
>Spread that outward to others, and show them the magic of friendship.
>Now those ponies start the process.

That is literally where we are at. Twilight, the student, has become the teacher. Now we get to follow the zany antics of more dysfunctional characters that challenge the conventional setting of My Little Pony.

God damn guys...it's like you don't watch the show for the plot.

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>>29882830
>Pony learns magic of friendship
>Pony learns friendship lessons with group of ponies
>Pony teaches pony magic of friendship
>Pony learns magic of friendship
>Pony learns friendship lessons with group of ponies
>Rinse and repeat

You'd have to be majorly autistic to be okay with watching the same plotlines over and over again.

>>29882863
it's called friendship is magic you fucking nigger

>>29882522

The first episode was hardly about Starlight at all. It was literally a Twilight and Celestia episode.

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>>29882863
It's not the same. There are still lessons to be learned from the perspective of Twilight, acting as the teacher.

Learning those lessons directly from Celestia would make for poor storytelling - ergo, this arc is being tackled now that Twilight is in the role of the teacher.

>>29882872
Yes, they delivered the point the show was making, it's time for it to end. Start fresh with a clean slate. There's no reason they need to keep beating a dead horse.

>>29882882
Pfft. They've covered the learning side of things. Now they are going to cover the teaching/mentoring side of things.

One of the episodes in this season is going to be involving Rainbow and Applejack's parents, right?

You don't think that will involve a section like what happened between Celestia and Twilight? Asking for advice, and finding a way to make something work?

They will probably end Friendship is Magic soon, but it won't be until after the end of this season. Probably the next one, depending on how they write the CMC.

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>>29882882
>There's no reason
But there is. If they ended the show and started a new show named "My Little Pony: Starlight & Trixie BFF" or whatever, no one would give a fuck. Pretending this is still the same show is just marketing.

>>29882878
Except it isn't, second episode in was about Starlight Glimmer learning a friendship lesson, and if the episode list is anything to go by, a season full of friendship lessons. Not the least of which is Fluttershy learning to be assertive yet again. How many times can we be expected to watch the same thing repetitively?

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>>29882929
The second episode also covered that the Mane 6 were pretty much at their peak friendship wise.

I.e., there's not going to be many friendship lessons that focus on 2 members of the main 6 any more. I absolutely guarantee that any of the lessons they learn from this point onward will be done singularly, and always in relation to someone else outside the Mane 6.

I'll have to see about Fluttershy's assertive episode.

>>29877371
I'd pay to see it animated where she's sinking deeper down

>>29882929
>Not the least of which is Fluttershy learning to be assertive yet again
How long are you faggots going to push this fucking line when it didn't occur for the last three seasons? Just wait for the fucking episode to air. Get a fucking life in the meanwhile. If you're going to condition yourself into hating an episode prior to even seeing it - you might as well leave now.

You literally make your own life worse like a fucking degenerate you are. Jeez.

>>29883269
>Complaints are made by one person
I haven't made this complaint since season 5. The 'lesson' she 'learns' is right there in the synopsis. Go read it.

>>29883283
>faggots
>one person
Did I fucking stutter?
>The 'lesson' she 'learns' is right there in the synopsis
It's fucking not. You degenerates read what you want to see. "She has to stand up to" doesn't mean "she learns to be assertive". It means "she has to solve a problem and the problem is another person". You won't be expecting the plot to focus on the actual problem and the process of finding the way to solve it, will you? Of course, you won't! Why would you? That way there are fewer things to bitch about!

I've heard some faggot here say something along the lines of "if you expect the worst. you won't be let down when it's bad". Probably a faggot from /v/ because he, and all of you doomsaying faggots, don't realize there's a big fucking difference between not dreaming big and fucking conditioning yourself to hate the thing long time prior to even seeing it.
MMC suffered from this. EQG suffered from this. Now you try to apply this autistic mentality to fucking everything and then you bitch about everything being bad.
Of fucking course it will be bad for you! You don't want to enjoy things. You want to bitch about them.
Watch the fucking episode first. If it's "Fluttershy learns to be assertive again" - well, fuck. But the way you're now you aren't going to enjoy the episode whatever it'll be. It won't be better anon. Nothing will get better if you condition yourself into hating everything.

>>29877451
This. I like the evolution of the show, but I understand why people might hate it.
Trixie and Starlight are drastically different than the main 6, so i guess that's why, but I really like the new, ex-villany sort of storytelling, and these two are the sole reason I still watch this show after 7 years. Without them it would be just making characters crippled just to make them need another lesson they already learned in season 1, or gay shit like that. I like the idea of them becoming sort of a celestia characters for the new generation of ponies with things still to learn.
Face it - glimglam is the focus because the show is good with character development. Twilight is a fucking princess of friendship now, how the hell do you want her to still have things to learn after 7 seasons. The main cast needed support, and glimglam and trixie are perfect for that.
tl;dr - fuck you, trixie best waifu

>>29882882
Its not about the point, its about money and toys. As long as the show is popular it will stay, I'm guessing that is why Faust left it so early.
It WILL keep going, but the good thing is it keeps changing, adding new characters and changing them, instead of doing the simpsons for 40 fucking seasons.
I can't understand why /mlp/ wants to see the same episode 20 times a season for 7 seasons. Change is good if this shit will stay on air for 25 more years.

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>>29877350
Why don't you just make GlimGlam not shit, Jim?

>>29877350
/mlp/ is filled with faggots who doesn't have their own opinion and will act like monkeys, because "this is /mlp/, and we are edgy"

>>29883325
>Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions!
I shouldn't be given a reason to complain about this. The writers should be doing a better job, or urging the executives to change the franchise over to g5. They are very clearly running out of things to do with the setting and its character and you can't deny that more often than not, characters have been portrayed out-of-character or dumber than they should be.

Instead of looking at the characters and say "What can we do with them?" it seems like they're doing the opposite "Here's a synopsis, how do we make the characters behave like this?".

With episode 2? The mane six weren't relevant at all. They were literally cardboard cutouts. Trixie and Starlight are no better, Trixie should have learned by now not to be an overbearing twat and Starlight literally repeated her mistake of using magic to solve her problems, which she should have learned in ELTSD. All the writers did was hang a lantern on these things, as though that makes the terrible writing okay. This kind of shit inevitably happens when you have a never ending story, it's time for them to end the show and start with a fresh slate and new characters that they can be as dumb as they want with.

Slinging buzzwords at me in the place of real, thought out arguments will not change that.

>>29883428
Please give some examples. And not negative examples, either, like "Make her not a mary sue", examples that you could look at and think, "If Starlight Glimmer was more like this, the show would be better". I'm waiting.

>>29883482
Absolutely this. I wouldn't exactly call them "cardboard cutouts", but definitely they used the Mane 6 as background characters. This episodes were really disappointing, because they almost make it look like instead of wrapping everything up, ending this show and giving us a G5, they plan on writing off the Mane 6 gradually, until they're completely irrelevant. I couldn't disagree more with the anon who wants the show to stay on air for 25 more years, if I wanted to watch a different show with different characters, I would be watching a different show already.

>>29883482
>you can't deny
Oh, but I can.
>The mane six weren't relevant at all
That wasn't an episode about them.
>They were literally cardboard cutouts
>figuratively using literally

>Trixie should have learned by now not to be an overbearing twat
Faggot, you can't "learn" not to be yourself. You can learn to be cautious and self-reflective, but you shouldn't try to change your defining character traits. You even suggesting this kind of shit shows that you have no fucking idea how the world works. And Trixie, actually, learns - she even asked if anything was okay with Starlight. She was just being herself - as usual.
>Starlight literally repeated her mistake of using magic to solve her problems
That wasn't the message of the episode, you idiot. If anything, using the magic eventually solved her problem by forcing her to speak her mind in a non-direct way.

How about you stop being a faggot? By this time you should've already learned this lesson.

>>29877575
Twilight got so mad she turned into fire

>>29877507
>Is the show over? Give us an ending
Friendship is Magic has already ended long ago with Magical Mystery Cure.
Now it's the Princess Twilight Sparkle™ Show®.

>>29883543
>Oh, but I can.
Okay, fine, you can.
>That wasn't an episode about them.
What annoys me about this is that they added them in anyway, as if they're trying to make it out as though they're still the main characters instead of outright saying they aren't, if they did that, I'd be somewhat fine with it.
>figuratively using literally
>"I don't understand exaggeration."

I'll give you that, Trixie is being herself in the episode, but it was dialed all the way up to eleven beyond anything she's exhibited before, I can't exactly say whether it was the writers doing it for the sake of convenience or if that level of antagonism is still part of her personality, and that she just decided to be a bitch that day.

Regardless of whether it was the message of the episode or not. Giving a character selective memory merely for the sake of the plot is a terrible thing to do, and it's something the staff writers have a bad habit of doing.

>More buzzwords
I don't know why I keep replying to you.

They also tried to imply that not learning your lesson is okay if it means you can have fun later. That was a cunt thing to do.

>>29877371
drawfags

>>29883573
>What annoys me about this is that they added them in anyway, as if they're trying to make it out as though they're still the main characters instead of outright saying they aren't, if they did that, I'd be somewhat fine with it.
That's a valid complaint - I can't say anything about that. I'm perfectly fine with them being in the frame just as a comparison of everything going perfectly. Though, I can understand why some people might not like either the focus being moved away from Mane 6 or alternatively currently non-plot related characters taking the screen time.
>but it was dialed all the way up to eleven beyond anything she's exhibited before
It's a message of anger being recursive. Trixie is always a cunt, it's just Starlight normally doesn't care about that. However, when Trixie made her angry, she begins to stumble on all the little things she previously ignored and now they're making her even angrier. You think it's dialed up to eleven while it's just Starlight who started to point all of them out.
>Giving a character selective memory merely for the sake of the plot is a terrible thing to do
I wouldn't call that "selective memory". If you take such a position, Starlight has to make some antimagic vow of sorts, because the magic is used to solve problems in Equestria. The lesson she learned was "Don't use magic to solve your everyday routine problems most horses just talk out". A crimson cloud of uncontrollable destructive energy is not an everyday routine problem. It's a magic problem. Not to mention, Starlight is perfectly aware of the case and of the possible solution to this problem and her decision not to talk things out while a bad one is completely conscious.

>They also tried to imply that not learning your lesson is okay if it means you can have fun later. That was a cunt thing to do.
Anon, we live in the world where people legally intake literal poison to have fun. "You don't have to be perfect" is a decent message.

Sometimes I get the feeling a lot of this "THE SERIES IS NOW SHIIIIIIT DUE TO GLIMGLAM" shenanigans is due to people either wanting to do the obligatory moeposting "x seconds in and it's already shit" that has become tradition now, people letting loose their autism because glimmer posters can't control theirs and thus causing the "it was spammed on muh board, IT'S SHIT FOREVER AND I MUST SHITPOST ABOUT IT FOREVER NOW" mentality that has crushed lesser shows into oblivion, or just worries by waifufags that their waifus will vanish off of the screen entirely due to this new one.

But honestly, I feel like there's something else to it. And after watching Starlight's episodes again, it finally hit me at long last why everyone is not only so divisive over her, but also why she causes a massive hatred of her existence just seeing her: She's Asuka in pony form. And when you look at it like that, it suddenly explains a lot.

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>>29883632
For me it was specifically the way in how it felt so low effort compared to the A plot, the song was nice, but something felt off about it and I can't quite figure out what it was.

Didn't even consider that, in hindsight, it's a good delivery of the issue if we assume this stuff happens off screen, but I don't ever recall her being this antagonistic in any episode after her redemption, sans being snappy with Twilight that is, that's probably just arguing the semantics, though.

I can't actually say anything about this, as it's one of the things I did like about the episode. The way it just went 'poof' was a little unsatisfying, I'll admit, but it accurately drove in the point of talking about your problems instead of figuratively and literally bottling them up. Maybe that was just me wanting an evil Starlight magic clone.

They could have worded it better, to be honest, like something along the lines of "Oh Starlight, we can't be perfect all the time!".

In closing, it's not as doom and gloom as I first thought, but there are definitely areas that need improvement and I really hope the rest of the season isn't as patchwork as this premiere was. It's their job after all.

>>29883690
Gonna need a primer on Asuka, my google search comes up with some Japanese wrestler.

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"One, Poochie needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine."

Checked since the season 5 finale.

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>>29883712
"Two, whenever Poochie's not on screen all the other characters should be asking Where's Poochie?"

Checked since the season 7 premiere.

It's great to know that Homer Simpson is writing the show now.

>>29877371
I thought we were past the vore phase

>People complain about how the same plots are rehashed and the mane 6 keep learning the same lessons
>When the show tries the change it up everyone spergs out

>>29883724
The problem is that the same plots are being rehashed, but with different characters. I'm not sure if they've done this one before, though, there are too many episodes to keep track of now.

>>29883724
>People complain about how the mane 6 aren't treated right
>When the show just says "fuck it" and forgets about the mane 6, everyone spergs out
MIND = BLOWN

>>29883706
the red head from evangelion.

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>>29883721
>C'mon anon! Let's dive into the winged ribbon horse's penis!

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>>29883739
Not everyone browses /a/ and watches anime, Anon.

>>29877350
>/mlp/ complains either way
/mlp/ is not one person. Different people complain about different things.
>pure lore
I'll give you that
>character building
It's another "Glimmer is mentally incapable of thinking of a solution that doesn't involve OP as fuck magic, or metally controlling/influencing other characters, intentionally or not."
Unless by character building you meant Celestia, and in that case you're right.

>/mlp/ complains because it has Glim Glam in it
And they are fucking right.
Whenever they write her in an episode, it has to become a Glimmer episode. There's no way she can possibly be there as "just one of the characters", everything needs to revolve around her, everything needs to happen to keep her in the spotlight. How many two-parters have been ruined because of this, uh? All of them since the S5 premiere.
And before you say only /mlp/ hates her because memes, take a look elsewhere. You'll find a lot of complaints about Glimmer. Except on derpibooru, because mods are faggots and ban everyone who criticizes her.

>>29883753
I don't browse /a/ but my search brought her up. never watched it myself.

>>29877451

The show should have ended before there was a need to push the main characters on the side.

I've been pushing for a generation jump since s4.

>>29877647

As a fellow spic, your shit taste disgust me.

>>29882813

And I'd take the later, because the characters I care about are now (even more) irrelevant and the show now looks like a husk of what it used to be.

Glad we could point out our differences.

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>>29883690
Personally speaking, the series isnt shit by her inclusion, but glimmer is.
Most of her development has happened off screen and what development we have seen is, again personally speaking, lacking.
The episode with trixie that just happened? That could have been inserted last season with zero differences.
>We hadnt seen much of glim glam yet, meaning the cloud bullshit would have gathered less "WTF." and fueled more speculation towards her magical abilities and backstory rather than shitposting.
>Showcases Trixie and Starlight acting as honest to god friends outside of one episode and the finale.
>If you place it before "Every little thing she does" you could have that episode be the culmination of "Using magic to solve your problems is a bad fucking idea." and have her grow as a character rather than seemingly not learning a damn thing.
She's not entirely bad, she's just written poorly and therefore prime shitpost bait like Twilight's wings were when they first got stapled on.

>>29883703
>but something felt off about it and I can't quite figure out what it was.
It was forced.
They had no reason to sing about how great their friendship was after the puzzles were solved beyond the sake of the two jokes of missing the record and starlight saying they'll sing at some point.
A better way to do the scene would have been to have them sing while solving the puzzles, and then complete the joke by forgetting to turn the key right away because they group hugged at the end of the song.

>>29883875
You should apply to be a story boarder, that seems like a much better idea

>>29883905
Such a meaningful post

>>29883875
>A better way to do the scene would have been to have them sing while solving the puzzles, and then complete the joke by forgetting to turn the key right away because they group hugged at the end of the song.
Fuck, this is good. I actually liked the song better than the rest of the episode, but I think that it would have worked much better this way.

>>29883917
you shut up, /mlp/ is for shitposting and self insert porn. Logical discussion on how people would not shit on a thing is not allowed.

>>29883489
If glim was more invisible or non-existent the show would be better

>>29883926
> /mlp/ is for shitposting and self insert porn
You mean shillposting and porn dumping?
Because thats exactly what shilling dogs are currently doing all over the place.

>>29883953
I was more referring to green text (almost all about our OC being so attractive and good at the sex he gets all the bitches) , but yeah there are fetish image dumps thrown in too.

>>29883953
And there are people who actually still like the show and try to defend it from the other half of the hivemind that automatically hates (or pretends to hate) everything because that's what the cool kids do.

The inverse is also true. With some people pointing out flaws but not outright shitting on everything going against those who act like everything is perfect to get a rise out of others.

Mostly all sides boil down to 6 fronts
>hate everything that is new
>love everything
>waifu wars
>Those who just want the novelty back in their cute horse show
>Those bitter about shattered headcanons
>Those who just want to shitpost

everyone despite what the incoming (you) says falls into those six boxes

>>29884051
Don't forget
>those who are mostly in it for the porn

>>29884071
covered by waifu wars and my first post about the other half of /mlp/.
>>29883982

>>29884051
this was about the shitposing side of the equation

>>29883745
rainbow dash presents: cock vore

>>29884109
Not all porn falls under waifu wars. If you want it to go in that category, it should be renamed to something more general.

>>29877486
Then just stop watching. There's a great big Steven Universe hug box out there just waiting for you.

>>29884129
thats why i counted porn as its own thing, in the shitpost reaalm it is moore about waifus and porn only people don't apply.

>>29883875
>It was forced.
Not really. I see a forced song when I see one, and that wasn't it. A gag - sure, but not a forced song. Forced songs would be the entirety of Cristal Empire or the "Changeling Can Change" song, for example.
>A better way to do the scene would have been to have them sing while solving the puzzles, and then complete the joke by forgetting to turn the key right away because they group hugged at the end of the song.
That would be downplaying their friendship powerlevels, though. They basically managed to solve the puzzles AND to sing a song in the time it took griffons to do just the puzzles.

The main 6 are played out and boring. I hope the spotlight is given to side/new characters more often this season. Considering how much love Trixie is getting, and Ember being shown again I think this is what we're going to get. Which is great, they've done everything they can with the main 6, it's time for some new heroes.

>>29877507
We'll rename it to the Starlight Glimmer Show

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>>29877350
I'm strangely disappointed that someone hasn't shopped OP picture into pic related yet.

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>>29884719
Never mind.
Try harder, faggots.

>>29881216
>I don't consider myself a part of the fandom.
You are

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>>29879952
>I enjoyed the first two episodes

>faggots still pretend that everyone else hates them too

FiM is the bread and butter of Hasbro right now so this show will continue until there's nothing left to milk or they make another hit somewhere else

>>29884941
>FiM is the bread and butter of Hasbro right now so this show will continue until there's nothing left to milk or they make another hit somewhere else

I know I'm going to be called a shill for this, but I'm ok with this as long as it's still cute poners doing cute poner things. I don't take any sort of deep message or interpretation from the show, I just want cute shit to be cute.

>>29884973
It doesn't bother me either. The show is still fun to watch and it still has a lot of the elements that drew it's autistic fanbase in the first place. The show is definitely passed its cultural phenomenon stage but it's still good and comfy and that's all I need. Life is shitty enough as it is, ponies give me comfort.

>>29883875

oh god. you are the worst type of person to ever utter 'a better way to do this scene'. i hope you know that.

leave it to the professionals. your opinion is shit.

>>29885037
He's right though, it would have made more sense that way. Maybe you should just kill yourself

>>29885037
>leave it to the professionals
>your opinion is shit
Shilling dogs in a nutshell.

>>29880765
It's probably more because some anons really wanted her to fuck off of ponyville and into another town or whatever.

>>29883565
>not the glim glammer show

>>29885655
>S1-3: Friendship is Magic
>S4-5: Princess Twilight Sparkle's™ Hasbro Toys Commercial®.
>S6-7: The Glim Glammer Show

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>>29885679
>S6-7 being the magical poochie power hour show
Pretty fucking much

>>29885679
Thanks anon.

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>>29877451
>I just want the show to be about Starlight and Trixie from now on
This would have been enfuriating to read just a couple of yeas ago, and now I feel depressed because it's a sad reality that I refuse to accept

Fuck Jim man

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>>29884941
>"FiM is the bread and butter of Hasbro right now"
>implying Hasbro has no other super-successful franchises

>>29878293
that actually sounds pretty fucking ne-

>Thorax

nevermind, burn it all down and start over.

>>29877497
>A life skill is something that can be learned after one lesson
>It shouldn't take years, maybe even a lifetime for someone to learn a life skill

>>29877350
It's literally one autist being retarded and fan of fandumbs following him.

>>29881617
>We know that the lyra's ... can't do this
Why the heck was Lyra enrolled in Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns, anyway?

Want to see how to teach and learn correctly while keeping it subtle and not making queen sociopath the main star of every episode? Look at season 1 Twilight. Learning from her friends situations between one another and her interactions with them. Twilight is in every single season one episode to learn a lesson and doesn't need to be shoehorned in as the main focus every time. There are a lot of episodes where she's only briefly communicating with one of the main 6 who is having an issue with the other. It makes it feel natural because she's not always the one struggling to figure it out vs Starlight who is always the center of attention in her episodes.

>>29886733
They have a music program? Seriously outside o moondancer Twilight's canterlot friends seemed like they weren't especially good. Actually, Twilight is pretty much the only really good caster to come out of that school since Sunset doesn't exist.

>>29886898
I like the way it is. Glimmer for 26 epsiodes season 8

When will we change /mlp/ to /glim/

>>29887458
After season 14 when Glimmer has become mega princess by absorbing all the other royals.

>>29886898
In S1 there was no way to not put Twilight there, she had to write letters. But that was such a charm to me personally. I was a bit disappointed when it was shifted to everyone's letters in Lesson Zero. I know it was important to broaden the possible array of stories and lessons but still it wasn't quite the same for me. Now that we don't even have lessons to learn anymore and there are no rules about how episodes should be written. That opens up a lot of possibilities but also enables lazy writing. To recapture some of the earlier storytelling they would need to do two main things:
1. Make the story around characters, not write a couple of plot points and just insert characters who are most likely to work for it.
2. Focus more on the storyboard, not just a script. Compose the story from there, not in vacuum.
It's true that M6 as a whole isn't such a focus anymore and ABU did give that a nod but it's not a bad thing. It can do wonders to the show but it can also ruin it. I'm not against seeing Glimmer more, just against shoehorning her the wrong way. They can't just repeat what they did to Twilight but they can try to recapture what made it so relatable and fun.

>>29887533

Something that made it relatable was relatable, non-2d characters. Starlight has been given around 10 or so episodes as the main focus yet we know almost nothing about her. All we have is her sob story background, her ability to use magic, and her past personality that was wiped to make room for reformation. That means she has no hobbies, no goals, no future without Twilight. In Twilight's case from the series opener, it's shown that she has a talent for magic, is a bit of a book nerd, and has a passion for learning and her teacher. These are all things that can expand her character outward. Starlight has no hobbies or goals other than what she's told she wants to do by Twilight. It's disgusting and her character (other than sociopath) is non-existant.

So was it shit?

>>29888343
Would you really trust /mlp/ with answering that question?

>>29877516

Except I fucking dropped the show when they switched from Tennant to Smith. I tried watching it with Capaldi and the annoying cunt and almost killed myself.

>>29888364
I can understand preferring Tennant over Smith, but bashing on Capaldi? Good God, man.

Also, you seem to be forgetting that Tennant was already the tenth of these guys.

>>29888324
The Cutie Re-Mark is to blame for everything. It didn't deliver on Glimmer whatsoever, if anything it killed her character outright and wiped any possible progress after that with a retcon of her being friends with everyone. It's almost like it was supposed to end right there. In S6 nothing about it matters, it's a blank slate with no personality except for what we already know about her. Her being characterised through her past is just lazy. It's a completely different approach than with Twilight, that's why she would never work as "Twilight 2.0" no matter how much they want it.

>>29888359
i would trust /mlp/ with my life

>>29877647
Rebels is shit and TCW was mediocre

>>29888390

Okay, well, I'm not old enough or have been born on the right side of the Iron Curtain to actually have caught the older guys.

Regardless, the point still stands. I didn't watch S6 at all, because it had too much Glimmer. And now that it looks like the show is going to be all about Glimmer, I don't feel bad about dropping it completely.

It was fun, and I'll still write my AiEs, and my WoD/D&D campaigns, and my clopfics, but the show itself is dead to me. It was dying in S6, and unless there's going to be a miracle later on, S7 killed it for me.

>>29888471
Anon, you are degenerate and you're making your own life worse. It's your opinion and your own choice, so you are fully entitled to think what you want to think, but your position on the topic is fucking disgusting.

>>29888507

What, that the show has done a lot for me?
>got me closer with my friends
>got me to embrace my creativity
>made me a ton of new friends
>that gave me good music and good stories
>that I actually enjoyed watching and was entertained by
and that I should feel bad for saying that this is not that show? Not anymore? Fuck off.

If you ever saw someone with dementia or Alzheimers, you'd know what I'm talking about. They superficially look the same. And sometimes, there's glimpses of the person that was once there. But most of the time, it's a husk that is just a painful reminder of who that person was and will never be again.

>>29888448
Kill yourself and stay kill yourself.

>>29888394

Yes, she either had to continue to be a sociopath in hiding (which is what I'm hoping for, a betrayal) or a new character completely devoid of anything from season 5. The problem is they keep referring to the Cutie remark by her appealing to their emotions and sympathy. It's sending a bunch of jumbled up shit that makes no sense unless you assume she still has a chance of betraying the main 6. She had to be taught multiple times and still hasn't fully learned that manipulating emotions and actions with magic is not ok.

>>29888546
>that this is not that show? Not anymore?
No, you fuck off. The show is great. You aren't enjoying it because you're a fucking degenerate who fails to see the good in it. You went edgy and nostalgic and started to nitpick everything you can just to justify your own misery.
If the show is "objectively" shit for you now - then it was always "objectively" shit. Go on, look up any fucking review of any season 1 episode made by a person who hates the show and you'll be shocked by the amount of "objective" criticism it receives.

You hate the show because you want to. Not because it's bad.

>>29888546

Good description. There is still the occasional episode here and there that makes mlp worth watching, otherwise I would have quit watching around mid season 5. But it's moving from mid to late stage as it loses more and more of itself and while I will watch season 7, I don't know how far I'm going to make it. Season 6 was a slog and I didn't watch the episodes as soon as they came out like I used to.

>>29888615

If you say that then you're a fucking idiot. You know what S1 had?
>broad strokes description of Equestria and surrounding regions, so we could fill in blanks
>broad strokes description of magic, pony society, etc
>in fact, we can say that as far as lore went, it was all very broad strokes, which was its strength
THEN
>strong character arcs
>fun, but subtle humor (aka SECRET BUTT FUN)
>the stuff that was written had internal logic and consistency
>stellar storytelling
>good, if derivative music

The show has NONE OF THIS ANYMORE you fucking twink.

>>29888615

What more do you want to hear? Starlight is a bad, flat character that's getting pushed into the front slot because the show should have ended three seasons ago. The show was lost on what to do in season 4 so they went the Shonen route and built up a bigger, badder guy than Discord and after he got beat they upped the ante again. Season 5 was lost within itself and pushed the main characters that most people got interested in the show from to the sidelines to help progress the one-off plots in various parts of the world and people ate it up because "Muh worldbuilding". Season 6 continued to do the same thing. I won't argue that it would get stale if it just followed the main 6 for 7 seasons in the same style as the first two seasons, but season 3 was meant to be the finisher. It was meant to tie together the show and finish with a satisfying ending for the main protagonist and because they extended the series, that got lost and became meaningless as she fumbled around on screen more. As others have said, it feels more like a new show with the old staring characters as background characters and when those characters were part of what drew you to the show, them fading into the background means that your interest will wane.

>>29888643
I hope you are enjoying your rosa glasses.

>>29888695

They're not rose glasses you mong, other than the "stellar storytelling." They're objective facts. And I would be willing to bet money that the storytelling of S1 and S2 is still superior to the other seasons if you ask every person on the board.

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>>29888471
>I'm not old enough or have been born on the right side of the Iron Curtain to actually have caught the older guys.
Wrong again. Tennant was the second of the post-revival Doctors.

>>29888643
>broad strokes description of Equestria and surrounding regions, so we could fill in blanks
You mean lazy writing and close to zero lore?
>broad strokes description of magic, pony society, etc
You mean arbitrary blank characters and inconsistent plot enabling device?
>in fact, we can say that as far as lore went, it was all very broad strokes, which was its strength
You mean it's weakness for what it was widely criticized as plain and uninspiring?
>strong character arcs
You mean single episodes the vast majority of the time?
>fun, but subtle humor (aka SECRET BUTT FUN)
You mean Shriek-esque "humor"?
>the stuff that was written had internal logic and consistency
You mean the lack of?
>stellar storytelling
You mean toddler stories with toddler morals?
>good, if derivative music
You mean out of place "we want to be Disney but we can't" shit?


Also, in case you are a literal autist, my favorite season is 2.

>>29888324
>>29888394
Lets go through her episode appearences.
1st
>Full communist, completely rejects friendship spiel and tries to fuck off with the mane6's cutie marks, fails and gets overpowered by Twilight before fucking off.
2nd
>Brief cameos in episodes before this to show she's stalking twilight.
>Hears Twilights lecture about cutie marks, was somehow able to obtain a time travel spell that lasts longer than a minute and combine it with the friendship map in order to go to a specific point in time and fuck up Twilights friendship, for unexplained reasons the spell also brings her back to a few seconds before twilight gets there every time the latter uses it to try and fix things.
>Fallout timeline happens, she's 100% completely unrepent about it because she blames Twilight for ruining her village.
>Uses time travel spell without the scroll because fuck logic.
>We get the sob story where she just doesnt fucking bother to keep in touch with a friend after he moves because the equestrian postal service or good parents who can explain this fact of life apparently dont exist.
>She also never makes another friend because a cutie mark could take them away, ignoring the entire village of cutie marked ponies she currently lives in.
>Calls bullshit on the mane6's plot armor inducing apocolypse.
>Friendship spiel actually works this time
>"She's too powerful to send away."
>They all decide to be her best friends, sing a song about her doing friend things while a montage of friend things plays, roll credits.
3rd
>Has bonding time with spike.
>Is extremely awkward around sunburst since they've literally not seen or spoken to each other since they were fillies.
>Gives up on the idea since they've both moved on.
>Sunburst reveals he was a failing student at magic school, starlight briefly mentions the finale events.
>SUNBURST IS THE ONE TO FUCKING APOLOGISE FOR LOSING TOUCH.(Mad/10 after remembering this part)
>Sunburst uses autistic knowledge of spellwork to save the day.

>>29888842
>Moral is that Twilight gave Starlight the space she needed to solve her own problems.
4th
>Jokes about magically enslaving population of ponyville in order to force friendships.
>Is an utter failure at inviting people to dinner.
>Meets trixie at the spa and they bond over shared twilight bullshit.
>Twilight does not approve because she holds grudges, tries to force other friendships onto glimglam.
>Starlights retarded and doesnt tell trixie to put off her show for a single night to come have dinner with CELESTIA.
>Twilights retarded by trying to pass off 3 random ponies as starlights friends.
>Trixie is retarded for suddenly blurting out that she only became friends with starlight to beat Twiggle at something.
>Starlight realises what a piece of shit she is and runs off crying.
>Trixie attempts suicide.
>Starlight prevents it and they make up.
>Celestia just wanted a quiet dinner and mentally resolves never to accept another invitation from twilight ever again.
5th
>Doesnt give 2 shits about hearths warming, but is fine with other ponies celebrating it.
>is informed that an apocolyptic ice age will begin unless you celebrate it.
6th
>Literally uses magic to enslave 5 members of the ponyville population in order to force friendships despite joking about it 2 episodes ago.
>Only thinks this is a bad idea when she finds out they have no autonomy and they wreck the castle.
>They forgive her despite this being the second meaningful interaction with them as friends following the song-montage of the last season finale.
>They forgive her so much they help her clean up the castle despite that being her punishment.

>>29888824
So you just described all these points in a negative way to point out that people can nitpick everything?

>>29888570
Hope she at least learned it now because if the next time something like that happens it's unsalvageble.

>>29888846
7th
>Her old town forgives her out of the blue for no reason and invites her to a festival.
>She freaks out about this.
>Mane6 tell her she's changed.
>She goes with trixie but has a mental breakdown from the unexpected positive attention she receives, pussies out.
>Everyone is replaced by changelings.
>Is forced into leadership role, everyone else has character developing moments that proceed things to the throne room.
>The day is saved by a deus ex machina that shouldnt have worked, should have backfired horribly given the inferred new mechanics of changelings and makes zero fucking sense that not one of them in the history of the hive has ever thought to not be a selfish asshole but then all suddenly decide to do it at the drop of a hat.
8th
>Starlight needs to be given the space to learn things on her own, a completely original moral.
>She doesnt want to leave so she doesnt.
9th
>Starlight has anger issues.
>Mind control magic is bad, part 3.

In short, her character is flat and pretty much unchanging despite two entire seasons worth of episodes with which to possibly develop it.
Her only good episodes involve trixie or are pre S6, and thats because she has an actually decently developed character to help prop her up.

>>29888643
>strong character arcs
There really weren't any character arcs besides Twilight. All the other stuff is characters being rounded not having arcs. All the Mane 6 were constantly heckled about not having arcs, especially Fluttershy and it wasn't until the later seasons they had that.
>fun, but subtle humor (aka SECRET BUTT FUN)
that was a goddamn pound puppies commerical you dip

>>29888695
>I don't know what objective facts mean

>>29888678
>because the show should have ended three seasons
It's a meme and you know it. It could've ended. But it should not. And it did not.
>Starlight is a bad, flat character
It's a complete bullshit. You may not like Starlight, but you have to be a retard to say she's a "bland" character. She's as complex as any of the Mane 6 barring Pinkie. Her character development was weirdly paced, but she undoubtedly got one.
>The show was lost on what to do in season 4 so they went the Shonen route
You are a fucking retard, anon. One of the most unique things in Season 4 was its season-long story arc of finding the keys. But no, you will discard the whole fucking season and say "they went the Shonen route" only because in two last fucking episodes they decided to have some action. Great criticism there, anon.
>Season 5 was lost within itself and pushed the main characters that most people got interested in the show from to the sidelines
Do you even watch the fucking show, you fucking autist? The main thing of Season 5 was Mane 6 getting a fuckton of character and relationship-centered episodes. What the fuck are you talking about? Who exactly got pushed where?

Do you even realize how fucking stupid you sound? You use things that literally never happened to criticize the show. And you're trying to fucking imply you are being objective here.

>>29888842
>>29888846
>>29888863
Thanks for posting this. They just keep repeating the same thing again. That Twilight's advice in NSP to not use magic as a shortcut could've gone a long way if it didn't go over Starlight's head completely.
My biggest gripe is still the backstory, the reformation and its retcon. It's almost like they didn't really know where to go with her and also kind of didn't want to touch her too much, like they're embarrassed for including her now and want to kinda backpedal on it. The plot points are basically the same each time.
Trixie works well with her. It's the kind of thing to balance her instead of Twilight who didn't really work that well. She sheltered Glimmer too much and had perhaps too much faith in her, knowing how Starlight basically never learned anything by not just fucking everything up.
Glimmer apologises a lot but does nothing to redeem herself. Her lessons are almost always desctructive to herself. She learns how friends do but doesn't take it to heart. It took Trixie's arrogance and ego to finally push her in the right direction. Meaning that Twilight wasted her time and could've just give Starlight her "space" by untying her from herself for one second.
It doesn't help that basically everyone acts like retards in these episode. NSP is the worst abuser, HWT wasn't pleasant in its lesson as well. How fucking ironic it is to preach Glimmer equality? You either have fun like everyone or you're literally Hitler. They must've known it's basically taking a piss on her while they were writing it right?

>>29888851
>So you just described all these points in a negative way to point out that people can nitpick everything?
Yes my friend. I can also give examples of all these things being present in the later seasons.

The show is pretty damn good. It only stops being good when you decide it isn't good anymore.
It's fine to feel a burnout, especially if MLP was the first big thing in your life. But faggots who don't realize it's they who have changed and blame the show for it piss me off.

If we were to draw a clear fucking line between the seasons in the show, that line would lie between Season 1 and the rest of them. And it's not because Season 1 was "the only canon one" or whatever bullshit people come up with.
Season 1 was the "cleanest" one. In a sense of being purely "oriented on children but good enough to be okay for adults". Everything past it targets adult audience in a pretty obvious way.
I won't be saying nothing in the show had changed. I won't be saying that Season 6 was the best season ever - it was objectively weaker than seasons 2, 4 and 5. I personally would put it in the same slot as Season 1, however, Season 1 has another job to do which it did brilliantly. Aside from that, it also had a general formula of "lot of pretty average episodes with a few gems in-between". And if you've been on a ride for some time, you would know this is true. A popular suggestion to watch MLP sounded like "Don't watch it from the start. Try episode 16 or episode 25 first".

Screaming around that's MLP gone to shit and everything in it is terrible is a case of denial.

the only people who dislike the idea of replacing the main 6 aren't even fans of the show, they would rather see it die

>>29888982
Season 1 was about a 7/10, and each season since has decreased by 0.5

>>29888957
HWT can be excused for being a retarded premise, it was purely an excuse to do a song filled christmas carol parody.
Still a bad episode for character development, but starlight's pretty much the only relevant character bar discord that would have fit the role needed.

>>29888982
>A popular suggestion to watch MLP sounded like "Don't watch it from the start. Try episode 16 or episode 25 first".

>Suggesting universally great episodes to watch so that newfags realise we aren't just shitposting about liking the show and that it's actually enjoyable regardless of their possible tastes.
You're not that bright are you.

>>29888842
>They all decide to be her best friends
That what they usually do. See Luna.
>SUNBURST IS THE ONE TO FUCKING APOLOGISE
What exactly wrong with that? It was him who left her.
>Moral is that Twilight gave Starlight the space she needed to solve her own problems.
This line came out of nowhere. Moral was that sometimes you need to step over yourself to do right things.
>Twilights retarded by trying to pass off 3 random ponies as starlights friends.
Twilight tends to freak out when things go out of control. Season 2 episode 3.
>Starlight realises what a piece of shit she is and runs off crying
And then realizes she's not an actual piece of shit - she only behaves this way.
>is informed that an apocolyptic ice age will begin unless you celebrate it.
They have the apocalyptic Ice Age story in lore. Twilight told another story. Watch the show.
>They forgive her
Mane 6 are known to be warm-hearted and forgiving. And it's well known to them Starlight has big troubles understanding the proper social interactions. Part of her character development is realizing boundaries of "do"s and "don't"s.
>Her old town forgives her out of the blue for no reason.
They had forgiven her in Season 5 finale. Watch the show.
>a completely original moral.
You are being a completely original retard. The moral was "you don't have to follow the steps of others if you don't think it's a right thing to do". What you're talking about was the topic of discussion, and it was not about "the space". It was about the fact it makes little sense for Starlight to be directly mentored anymore.
>She doesnt want to leave so she doesnt
Nothing wrong with that.
>Starlight has anger issues.
Since forever.
>Mind control magic is bad, part 3.
Not the point of the episode in the slightest.

>>29888957
>Thanks for posting this

Fuck off with your circlejerk. There was no point made in that post, not to mention it's full of objectively incorrect bullshit.

>>29888982
>Don't watch it from the start
This is by far the worst meme of this fanbase. If someone doesn't like at least first 4 episodes when they start watching the whole show's idea is lost on them.

>>29889130

I want you to tell me how original and full of character Starlight is. Tell me about what has been shown in show that she likes, her hobbies, and her goals. I don't just mean the ones Twilight set for her, but her own goals.

>>29889067
>Suggesting universally great episodes to watch so that newfags realise we aren't just shitposting about liking the show and that it's actually enjoyable regardless of their possible tastes.

Except these episodes, especially The Party Of One don't really work without knowing the characters. Sonic Rainboom is literally its name for the person who doesn't watch the show.

They were suggested because they were the episodes that caught the attention of people who were watching the series properly. At the times of Season 1 its opener and a lot of its episodes were considered "weak".
The main point of these suggestion was "not start from weak episodes" as opposed to "start from universally great episodes". You would've known were you not to be so stupid.

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>>29889165
She likes to boop herself. :D

>>29889165
>Her own goals
To become a decent pony being.

You may not have noticed that, but she fell out of the community for a long period of time. She had no childhood, she had no proper life. Now she wants to get that. Now she learns how to behave like a normal person. Now she is trying to catch up on the stuff she had missed before.
She tries new things and constantly steps over her own fears and complexes.

That's about the level of characterization Rainbow Dash got, including the hidden self-esteem issues and psychological fragility.

>>29877350
He's right, you know.

>>29889240
Alright, half of the message got lost during the editing process.

The main point of Starlight character development is her figuring "do"s and "don't"s of the social interaction. She's like a child with an adult body and even brain. She doesn't come out stupid and can reason just fine but sometimes fails to understand something that widely considered to be common sense, yet is specifically taught by adults to their children.
As for hobbies - she tries a lot of new stuff and was specifically shown to like cooking.

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>>29889130
>That what they usually do. See Luna.
The luna they were still blatently wary of and awkward around in her next appearance on nightmare night?
>What exactly wrong with that? It was him who left her.
Whats wrong is that not keeping in touch was a thing they were both bad at, but one of them had the excuse of stressful school work distracting them.
>Moral was that sometimes you need to step over yourself to do right things.
The fuck do you mean by "Step over yourself.", the line i stated is something spike literally says inside the episode.
>Twilight tends to freak out when things go out of control. Season 2 episode 3.
Doesnt change the fact it was retarded, in character, still retarded.
>They have the apocalyptic Ice Age story in lore. Twilight told another story. Watch the show.
I am now convinced you are retarded, i was referring to said apocalyptic ice age.
>Mane 6 are known to be warm-hearted and forgiving. And it's well known to them Starlight has big troubles understanding the proper social interactions. Part of her character development is realizing boundaries of "do"s and "don't"s.
Except nobody with a history of mentally manipulating ponies never magically manipulated them purely for her own desires after their only shown interactions being a bunch of generic shit shown during a song montage.
>They had forgiven her in Season 5 finale. Watch the show.
They forgave her for no fucking reason, her last interaction with them was fucking off into the mountains after her ruse was exposed.
>You are being a completely original retard.
I was referencing the fact it was exactly the same moral as the S6 opener and i am further convinced you are retarded due to not understanding that giving someone space is a fucking metaphor.
>Nothing wrong with that.
There is when the episode is fundamentally pointless because of it, it's forever going to be that one celestia episode that was ruined slightly due to the forced focus around glimmer.

>>29887533
>Focus more on the storyboard, not just a script.
Not a chance. That's what killed Adventure Time and Steven Universe.

>>29889130
>>29889306
>Since forever
Actually absent all of S6, "Watch the show." as you put it.
>Not the point of the episode in the slightest.
Doesnt change the fact it's "Fluttershy learns to be assertive" tier of character development.

>>29889240
>>29889290
>That's about the level of characterization Rainbow Dash got, including the hidden self-esteem issues and psychological fragility.
The difference is that dash has had actually meaningful episodes and interactions with the other characters here and there that drove her character forward a bit, admitantly along with some shit ones.
And even with all that there's people that still think dash is a bit of a cunt so she's not exactly the best example to give here.

>>29889316
>implying our show hasn't been "killed" yet

>>29889306
>The luna they were still blatently wary of and awkward around in her next appearance on nightmare night?
Yeah, and they were wary of Starlight. Luna was forgiven by Twilight instantly and by literally everyone over a span of a single episode. Starlight was forgiven by everyone during the musical sequence that can easily cover a longer span. Not to mention, out of Mane 6 only Twilight had a really big fucking grudge against Starlight with other being just wary of her. And unlike Luna, she only every encountered Mane 6 which are canonically the friendliest ponies out there.
>The fuck do you mean by "Step over yourself.", the line i stated is something spike literally says inside the episode.
Are you fucking retarded? You can't distinguish a fucking line of a character and a fucking moral of a fucking episode? You know, "you are too stupid to understand MLP" might not be a meme.
>I am now convinced you are retarded, i was referring to said apocalyptic ice age.
Doesn't take much to convince a retard, does it? You were referring to the story that was told in the episode. The story that was told in the episode is not a story of the Ice Age apocalypses. In that episode Twilight offers Starlight a story, she replies "I know that Ice Age story", Twilight says "No, I want to read you another one'. Watch the show.
>Except nobody with a history of mentally manipulating ponies never magically manipulated them purely for her own desires
Discord did. In a much more sinister way and unlike Starlight he was fully aware of what he's doing.
>her last interaction with them
She was living with them and she was leading them for a long fucking time. People grow on you over time. Not to mention, she genuinely cared about them.
>exactly the same moral as the S6 opener
You are too stupid to understand MLP. And I'm not saying MLP is complex here.
>the forced focus around glimmer
The focus wasn't around glimmer. Focus was around Celestia and Twilight. Glimmer was the topic.

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>>29889316
I'm not saying it should be just storyboard but sometimes it feels that there's miscommunication between the two, like something gets lost between what they mean and how they show it. Both S7 episodes seemed better in quality somehow, maybe it has to do with different people working now.

>>29889343
>Actually absent all of S6, "Watch the show." as you put it.
Because if you have anger management issues you must be angry all the time.

I have anger management issues, anon. You just won't see it because you're physically incapable of making me angry.
But even I can snap out and break some stuff if I'll be in a similar situation as Starlight in All Bottled Up - when the shit just won't fucking stop hitting the fan.

>Doesnt change the fact it's "Fluttershy learns to be assertive" tier of character development.
Tried to think with your own head and not with memes? If it isn't the point of the episode it can't be the point of character development. "Mind control magic" in that episode was an uncontrollable effect - Starlight didn't use it on her own.
If you're going to throw "don't use magic to solve your problems" at me - no, that's bullshit. Magic is used to solve problems in Equestria. Starlight was told not to solve common problems with magic. A fucking cloud of destructive energy is not a common problem - it's a magic problem. Not to mention, she was perfectly aware of the non-magical solution for this problem and deliberately decided not to do so due to not wanting to call Trixie a bitch.
The lesson she learned in this episode had nothing to do with both "don't use magic to solve your problems" and "don't mind control people" with the later never being a lesson at all because you faggots keep forgetting who is this show targeted at. Hint: they can't fucking mind control people so the don't need that lesson.

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itt /mlp/ is butthurt over a good episode

>>29888842
>>29888846
>>29888863
only thing wrong here is that Twilight got credit but wasn't the one who beat Starlight in cutie map. That was Fluttershy outing her and the villagers running her out of town. Twilight just tried to lecture her a few times.

>>29889431
>You can't distinguish a fucking line of a character and a fucking moral of a fucking episode? You know, "you are too stupid to understand MLP" might not be a meme.
Yes, you can. it is a kids show, the moral is generally not hidden and is spelled out in the last 2 mins of dialogue. What the characters out and out say is what the moral is, not what an adult interprets it to be. Because this show is for 4 year olds who don't have the ability to over think this shit.

>>29877371
no

Yeah but I like all the side characters too and am glad to see them added to, and the main 6 have character developed so much that they couldn't possibly still make the same dumb mistakes so end up as a saccharine bunch of dorks that generally don't deserve screentime

What's the problem though

>>29890990
>What the characters out and out say is what the moral is
Anon, they aren't writing letters to Celestia anymore.
And you shouldn't insult children by treating them to be as stupid as you are. A kid understands unspoken moral just fine. "It's good to do things that were shown to be good" - that's all it is, really.
Trying to wrap up the moral into a single line will only distract a child from understanding it. That's the reason first seasons used actual letters - not what is "spelled out in last 2 mins of dialogue".
If you really think that the moral in MLP is always "spelled out in the last 2 mins of dialogue", then I'm sorry - but you really are too stupid for MLP. You are below its target audience. No jokes here - only pity and sadness.

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>>29889431
>You are too stupid to understand MLP because your personal interpretation of the narrative differs from mine
oh wow

>>29891065
>your personal interpretation of the narrative differs from mine
No one said anything about "personal interpretation".

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>>29891069
>my personal interpretation isn't a personal interpretation, is a fact
boy, it's getting better

>>29891073
Newfag, we've been through this already. Is it not a fact? Disprove it then. Or can you only do shitty memes?
You always have zero arguments and keep falling back to the "I don't have to write a thesis about it" wasting more time on your pathetic excuses and memes than it would require to "write a thesis".

Support your point or fuck off.

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>>29891087
>disprove that my opinions aren't facts
it doesn't work like that, bro

>"you always"
>/mlp/ is one person
pic related

>>29891094
>disprove that my opinions aren't facts
>it doesn't work like that, bro
That actually can be easily done. However, the problem here is that you call a fact an opinion. And it's not a fact because I say so. It's a fact because it's a fact.
If I say "Pinkie Pie is mostly pink" - it's not an opinion. You're trying to play it off as one.

>/mlp/ is one person
"You" is plural, so your statement is moot. Have you been smart enough to understand MLP you might've understood that too.

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>>29891117
>"you" in plural "always" have zero arguments to disprove that my opinions are facts
get a clue

>>29891189
>only quoting the parts he can meme about
"thou" of "you" who have more that zero arguments usually behave differently and aren't as obnoxious. I'm happy for my prejudices to be proven wrong by them every time that happens.
You, though, are incapable of doing that so you are free to fuck off anytime.

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>>29891208
>you are incapable of respecting my delusion
you got it

>>29891226
>not even trying to use my words
kek

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>>29891238
>tfw he finally resorts to memes and his posts are actually better than his previous "my opinions are facts" autistic screeching
go on

>>29891279
>fantasizing full time already

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>>29891308
>already

>>29891323
Well, you were trying to quote me at first.

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>>29891338
>I can't into memes, can we get back to my opinions being facts?
sure bud

>>29891360
>I can only into memes

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>>29891369
>I can only into autistic screeching

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>>29891373
>I am mad I can't support my opinion so I'll play stupid and hope he'll just give up.
Sorry anon, I should've not bullied a child with an actual discussion. Here, I'll post a pony picture too, so we'll be on the same wavelength. I even drew it myself.

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>>29891397
That's a cute Twily, Anon. Emotional blackmail is a dirty trick though.

>>29891427
^;)

>>29877371
>audible slurping noises

>>29879327

Remember your roots, faggot

>>29877410
The episode revolved around teaching Trixie how to teleport objects, despite the fact that she teleports objects in the first THREE MINUTES is S1E6. It's literally the first thing she does on screen and the new writers didn't watch that far, so we got an accidental retcon.

>>29892381
Based on what she said, she did everything before by trickery rather than magic.

>>29892470
R E T C O N

>>29892475
No he's right you lose.

>>29877350
I really want to believe that the hateful faggots who want to blame SG for everything up to and including their AIDS will go away like most of the hateful autists who blamed McCarthy for everything up to and including their AIDS. Come to think of it those two groups share so much in common they are probably the same group of people.

Premier + follow up episode were very enjoyable. Love that they had an escape room in there!

>>29892642
I enjoyed the episodes, but the first one could've been much better if they had put the focus more on Celestia and abandoned forcing the other mane six into it. They were basically pointless cameos that divided the attention of the script. That, or get rid of Discord and use the rest of the mane six to escalate the graduation/plan for Glimmer plot, which would've felt much more organic. Instead, it was 22 minutes of "'member this?" It's cheap writing that relies 100% on your existing sentiments about the show rather than doing anything to create new ones.

>>29883822

Why a generation shift when you can keep the fantastic, lore-rich universe and do a character shift instead?

>>29893128
I'd rather have it Simpsons-style where they keep the same characters and location for decades on end, then have them have the balls to fuck up the rest of the show with aeveral dozen poochies every couple seasons.

>>29892995
"Member this" was a great way to get into Celestia's character building. I think it worked fine.

>>29891021
That is all well and good but not what I was commenting on. which was Spike and Twilight discussing the moral for the a plot of the crystaling during the last scene. Mlp does this a lot. They don't beat you over the head with morals every time but there is a reason why Twilight and co actually wrote letters, and then diary entries

also
> That's the reason first seasons used actual letters - not what is "spelled out in last 2 mins of dialogue".

19 min mark of every season one episode
Dear Princess Celestia.
Today I learned these five to six sentences about friendship. I am writing you this letter, to tell the target demo what the lesson of the day was. Being four, they might miss the meaning while they are enjoying the show So I wrap up the story in the last 120 seconds before the credits by monolouging what I write to you. Anon's don't get this though, and think that the meaning is derived from the first 18 mins, instead of what myself or my friends say it is when discussing/reminiscing the events at the end.

your faithful student,
an anon paraphrasing the end of 70 of the first 91 episodes.

>>29893159
And this is why The Simpsons is dying, as actors are dying off or retiring. There's no new characters that were introduced in earlier seasons to ease us into them.

>>29894166
Anon, Simpsons have been on for 28 years, there are only handful of scripted shows that actually make it that far. And simpsons started going bad in season 10 and still stuck around.

But honestly mlp needs to end after season 8, because by then their original target demographic will be teenagers.

>>29877371
aww but I wanted to do it

>>29894142
>Mlp does this a lot
It does it a lot, but not always. I'll give it to you, though, The Crystalling indeed has that line. However, it raises another question from me.
>which was Spike and Twilight discussing the moral for the a plot of the crystaling during the last scene
You mean, quoting directly from the show:
>"What are you talking about? Your lesson went perfectly! Starlight and Sunburst got over their past and rekindled their friendship!"

Which part of this says anything about "giving Starlight space"? Which part of this contradicts my previous statement of "sometimes you need to step over yourself to do right things" when they stepped over their past?

Are you just trolling me, anon? I honestly thought if you're a missing the moral by this much it must've not been spoken out loud.

>19 min mark of every season one episode
Anon, the point was not about the time frame, but about the presentation. "The letter" scene goes far beyond a single line and is very explicit. You can't miss it. A single line in the dialogue is missed easily.
You behave like a Pavlov's dog, but your conditioning is about the timeframe instead of a bell.

>>29894887
Or are you talking about Spike's next line, when he's cheering up Twilight who questions her teaching methods? Anon, if anything, that was directed toward the adult audience. Think with your head - how is this a lesson for a kid? Give space to who?

>>29894887
>Which part of this says anything about "giving Starlight space"?
every word said after that
Twilight Sparkle: No thanks to me. I know a lot happened. I just wish I could have given my pupil the attention she deserves.
Spike: Well, I know she needed to be put on the right path, but giving her the space to make her own decisions worked pretty well. Isn't that how Celestia taught you?
Twilight Sparkle: You know, I never thought about it! But I guess it is!
Spike: Maybe you're a better teacher than you thought.

>>29894887
>"sometimes you need to step over yourself to do right things"
What does this phrase mean.

>>29894916
it means swallow your pride.
>>29894913
sometimes people need space, is a lesson for kids.

>>29894913
anon that entire exchange is twilight questioning her methods and spike reassuring her that the Celestia approach works

>>29894915
As I said, it was directed toward Twilight concerns about her teaching ways. It does not address the Starlight's plot-line in The Crystalling.
>>29894965
>sometimes people need space, is a lesson for kids.
I have a hard time imaging a kid who'll understand figurative "space" in the direct context of patronization.

>>29894913
>Think with your head - how is this a lesson for a kid?

>Solving problems on your own is better than being told the answer.

>>29894965
Oh.
I dont think pride had anything to do with this episode, sunburst and starlight were both just embarrassed and awkward, the latter about trying to big up his nonexistant accomplishments and the other about being a time destroying villian.

>>29895013
Uh...yes it does. Twilight's friendship lesson was starlight's plotline. Therefore Twilight's teaching ability plays into that.
>>29895013
>I have a hard time imaging a kid who'll understand figurative "space" in the direct context of patronization.
Now who is calling the target demo too stupid to get a moral