Fimfiction Thread - Now with 85% more lazy assholes who can't

post fics involving gay horses where being homosexual is considered taboo

>>29779198
DEAD THREAD

So what kind of shitty April Fool's joke will Knighty do this year? He's already done genre banning and rigging the featured box. I doubt he'll do any UI changes since that would require enthusiasm and energy and his crippling depression prevents that.

>>29779389
So bleedin taking up all 10 featured slots isnt going to happen?

>>29779257
Yeah, things have been deadier than usual.
I assume you all are busy with your succesful lives and beautiful sexual partners.

bump while people are still reeling from the trainwreck of april 1

>>29780274
you know if anyone wasnt here yesterday and saw that twenty hour bump they may rightly assume the board had truly died

This /mlpol/ debacle has got me thinking.

I'll never understand how people like /pol/acks can continually cry and get riled up about the reddit boogeyman, yet unironically behave exactly like these very same redditors they hate (spamming stale memes, shitposting, roleplaying, LARPing, muh feels, etc).

Has 'reddit' (or whatever poison that's snuck its way into their collective water supply) become so insidious and subtle that those who despise it cannot help but propagate its existence? Has reddit become... a meme?
Or are /pol/tards simply pretentious faggots fighting a """war""" they could never win, not because it's impossible to win per se, but because they're too busy shitposting behind their computers about how much they hate niggers while simultaneously jacking off to cuck porn?

Anyways, this whole thing has given me a new perspective in regards to all the """quality"""fags on this board: they should be gassed for being shitposting hypocrites.

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what the hells going on here?

also did i miss literally everyone on fimfiction posting blogs about cancelling all their fics, leaving the fandom and becoming normal productive members of society that happens every single year?

>tfw Knighty was too depressed to do an April Fool's joke
Even better, none of the fics I'm following did a shitty April Fool's chapter.

>>29780989
>debacle
Was I the only one who chuckled at the joke, checked out some of the shitpost threads, then went on Youtube until the 2nd when /mlp/ came back?

>get riled up about the reddit boogeyman, yet unironically behave exactly like these very same redditors they hate
You just described the entirety of 4chan. Reddit's more or less 4chan, only more "mainstream" (usernames, upboats, not calling each other faggots, etc.).

True oldfags can even tell you about the days before Reddit when MySpace and Digg and the like were the boogeymen.

>>29781164
>>Was I the only one who chuckled at the joke, checked out some of the shitpost threads, then went on Youtube until the 2nd when /mlp/ came back?
That's pretty much what I did, checkout out the various mergers, chuchled a bit, came back later.

But I also feel a little bit vindicated that even though the board was red, the occasional porn pic wasn't taking over the board or hampering discussion in any way. Which is an argument that has often been brought up for why the Scruffening was a good thing and we should stay in a very strict, deep, blue.

Now I don't really care at the end of the day, and I'm not a big fan of /pol/'s particular brand of shiposting in general, but I wouldn't mind if that board stayed around, just because had it been there many content creators would have had a place to stay instead of just leaving.

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I have been away from pony or porny for so long, today i return to a healthy fap to futa horses on male anon and THEY WHERE DELETED!
I don't even remember who the author was!
And that tumblr comic about anon and at the pie's farm was deleted too!

>>29781448
Futa is gay though

>>29781818
There is nothing gay about wanting to fuck mares who just so happen to have a penis, Anon.

>>29781818

You say that like it's a bad thing.

>>29781119
>what the hells going on here?
He split up a bunch of long chapters into shorter ones, and did a bunch of editing. Apparently there's going to be a print run sometime soon.
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/725545/status-update-please-pardon-the-mess

>>29781818
ur mom is gay

>>29782294
That's a pretty contrived way to tell someone they're adopted.

>>29780989
We define ourselves in relation to others. Groups work the same.
Large parts of 4chan self-identify by being "not reddit", and therefore saying that something is "reddit" is synonymous with saying that it's wrong. It's not very complicated.

Every group is always going to have at least one boogeyman, one "outside force" threatening it.

>>29781818
We're all gay here.

>>29781164
I liked all the initial overreaction and, more or less, did the same but went to work instead. Glad things are back to normal.

I couldn't go to FiMFiction yesterday.
Did I miss any ebin joke chapters or stories?

>>29779198

>>29761559
https://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/05/story-mlp-school-years.html
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/27218/ponyville-university
https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20130107193219/https://www.fimfiction.net/story/40321/Red-Thrush-Private-School (https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B9eWxXuzsiX6Ty1namR0TFJjWVU)
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/49825/red-thrush-private-school-new-perspective

>>29763576
https://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/05/story-brave-new-world.html?

>>29779256
I've seen some, but I generally don't pay attention to them; sorry.

>>29781430
That's sure not how I remember it; but I don't feel like digging through 20 archived catalogs to quantify things.

>>>/mlpol/165562

>>29781448
>i return to a healthy fap to futa horses on male anon and THEY WHERE DELETED!
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/211507/futas-with-males/
(There's also https://www.fimfiction.net/group/206666/futa-on-human, but it's underpopulated.)

>I don't even remember who the author was!
Butt Stallion? https://www.fimfiction.net/group/211507/futas-with-males/thread/281386/yes-the-other-admin-deleted-the-old-group#comment/5543023

>>29782672
>Large parts of 4chan self-identify by being "not reddit", and therefore saying that something is "reddit" is synonymous with saying that it's wrong. It's not very complicated.
Ironically (inb4 >>29692728), this also describes large parts of Reddit. (Not to mention large numbers of bronies.)

>>29783525
>inb4 >>29692728
Sorry, meant "inb4 >>29756739".

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>>29781448
>And that tumblr comic about anon and at the pie's farm was deleted too!
http://pencilsponyforge.tumblr.com/tagged/APA/chrono?

Alright fags I need your help. I want to write another horsefic story but I'm not sure which one of the following crappy ideas I should pick:

1. Celestia and Twilight agree switch places for a while so they can learn about each other's duties, but then they realize how much they like the change and decide to make it permanent, to the dismay of everyone else.
2. The Mane 6 find themselves in a taiga forest and have to find their way home before a merciless winter comes. In the desolate land, however, there are other ponies as well...
3. Twilight and Starlight are flung into the future where FutureTwilight's benevolence is law (ignore the time travel paradox here). The two have to decide if they want to get back to the past or risk it and try to convince FutureTwilight that she's not as much of a good guy as she thinks. Then again, maybe she is.
4. Twilight discovers a futa spell and has some fun with it.

Which one of these ideas could be turned into a mediocre story?

>>29783612
These are premises, not stories.

>>29783612
None of these are great stories. Unless you're a good writer it's probably going to turn into shit tier fanfiction.

>inb4 I only want to do a mediocre story
Don't you have any ambition?

>>29783612
1. Wouldn't Twilight miss her friends? Wouldn't Celestia miss her sister, or be bothered by her sense of duty or responsibility?
2. If the other ponies have a way to survive winter, doesn't that mean the main characters can too?
3. Not a good start if you can't even get through the first sentence of description without something so broken you have to ask readers to ignore it due to apparently being unable to fix it.
4. Sounds pretty generic. Not even any details on what kind of "fun"?

>>29783636
Congratulations on your observational skills.

>>29783910
Thanks.

>>29783612
1. comedy
2. horror
3. Sci-fi?
4. clop

That's quite the range of genres here, and that's only what my first impression of these vague descriptions give me.

Personally I think the second option sounds the most enticing, but also the hardest to pull off. Three could be super interesting but would probably be the longest. One could be whatever you want really. Easiest one to write. Don't bother with four tbqhwy.

>>29783581
Oh, thank you!
>>29783525
>futa groups
Nice, but what's been deleted will remain deleted.
I never thought i should regret not saving gay written horse fan fiction on my computer.

>>29783753
>unless you're good don't even try
>why don't you have ambition

wait what

>don't even try
>be ambitious

I'm confused.

Of course none of them are great stories, I said they're crappy ideas. I'm a mediocre writer so I expect the end result to be mediocre as well, I'm just being realistic. I don't really care desu, I just want to write about ponies.

>>29783898
1. Good points. That idea, to be honest, is the least fleshed out one, so I haven't thought everything through.
2. Yes.
3. Good point. I'm not very fond of time travel stories because it's not easy to make them logical.
4. This one wasn't a serious idea.

>>29783636
Yes, I said they're crappy ideas. Like the other guy said, you have excellent observational skills.

>>29784104
The second one might be the hardest, but it's also the most fleshed out idea. I don't think three has to be that long, the problem is that the premise is not that original (I can name at least three "future Twilight is a despot" stories) and has some time travel related issues.

So after your feedback i think I'm gonna go with 2. Thanks fags, you can continue discussing erotic diaper fetish crackfics.

>>29784429
>wait what
If you start with a crap premise and crap expectations, you're going to end up with a crap result unless you're already a really good writer.

What I'm saying is try to take things seriously, even just a little bit, if you want to grow as a writer.

I get that you just want to spend time writing yet another pony fan fic, and that's okay. But don't you ave some ambition?

>>29781818
I can't tell if I started fapping to stallions before, after, or during I started fapping to futa horses. Quite a mildly-troublesome ponder.

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>>29784210
>what's been deleted will remain deleted.
Assuming it's not captured by Fimfetch or any of the Fimfarchive collections or privately saved, anyway.

>>29785476
Wow, i didn't know that existed.
Thanks, but it's not there though.

>>29786860
Have you checked the FiM Archive database?

>>29786879
No, FIM has an archive?

>>29786912
Of sorts...
https://www.fimfiction.net/user/Fimfarchive

>>29786921
Interesting...
what is the "xdelta3 patch"?

>>29786860
Do you have the ID? Or any other information about it?

Question: where do fic authors get the cover art for their stories? Do they contact artists, or do artists ask to make art for their stories?

>>29786951
I searched from the titles.

>>29786952
Depends. Some make their own cover art, some commission it from others, and most just steal something off derpibooru or deviantart

>>29786964
What was the title?

>>29781119
>>29782168
Not to mention a new bonus chapter he'll be adding.

>>29786964
>hammer and thongs
>beach balls
>royal instruction

>>29786921
Downloaded it all, can't find anything innit, at all, even stuff i know still exists.

>>29781430
>we should stay in a very strict, deep, blue
Why should it be red? The only reason would be to post porn and that can really already be done by just posting the link.

>>29781818
This. I'm still not sure if people are just being ironic about the "it's not gay" thing or if the cognitive dissidence over fapping to throbbing penises is just that strong.

>>29783525
>Red Thrush Private School
That was another great shitstorm. Why can't the mods ban another fic months after it was approved by the same moderator that banned it?

>>29783612
>switch places
Seems kind of a Generic Cartoon Plot surprised S6 didn't do it, which means it would wear out it's comedy/SoL welcome quickly. If it's shorter (<40k), I could see it working.

>Survivorpone
Gonna need a lot of setup and context (why are they there, etc.). I could see a lot of logical problems springing up (why doesn't Twilight teleport to get help, why doesn't Dash fly to as well, why don't they just wait for the weather ponies that will bring said winter and ask them for help, why would snow pones be hostile, etc.) that might make the idea too difficult to adequately set up without feeling contrived. Cutting it down to only one or two characters would definitely help to stop that.

>Samurai Jack intro
Make it a "botch a spell AU" or do a more original gimmick to get them there and you can avoid all the time travel headaches. I'd drop the decision element since it's obvious--stay in an unknown place with no friends or family, or go back to everyone who loves and cares about you. Making it an AU helps stop the "just go back in time in the second chapter and not become an evil dictator" thus making the decision even more obvious.

>throbbing penises
The most likely to get featured, but not my fetish, so it's shit.

I'd tweak the time travel one to try and wring out any potential plot issues and go with that.

What's a story idea you've been meaning to write, but have never gotten around doing?

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>>29788633
>I'm still not sure if people are just being ironic about the "it's not gay" thing

Uhh... you do understand that
>futa is gay
has always been the ironic shitposting, right?

>>29789371
All of them.

>>29787207
I'm confused. Are those stories you're looking for?

https://fimfetch.net/story/148877/beach-balls
https://fimfetch.net/story/88772/royal-instruction

Can't help with the other one; can't even find any mention of its having existed. But you could ask at https://www.fimfiction.net/group/211507/futas-with-males/thread/281388/deleted-fwm-story-archives.

>>29787949
Any examples? You should probably tell the curator; they'll probably want to know if there's another bug causing stories to be skipped.

>>29788633
>why doesn't Twilight teleport to get help, why doesn't Dash fly to as well, why don't they just wait for the weather ponies that will bring said winter and ask them for help
"Alternate dimension" could solve those; they're canon, after all.

>>29787126
>new bonus chapter
adding content to something you finished years ago sounds difficult to pull off, unless he hasnt evolved at all as a writer since then. I'm curious but not hopeful that the new stuff will fit in with the old

>>29791230
Just sounds like another one to those short vignettes, nothing to worry about. You can read about it on his blogpost.
>https://www.fimfiction.net/user/getmeouttahere/blog
You make it sound like it'll ruin the story or something!

>>29789371
Cartographers in a frozen wasteland. Kind of got thrown off because of computer crapping out on me, but I still think about it from time to time.

>>29779831
I had Battle Assembly this weekend, anon. Sorry for being in the Army and not devoting all my time to writing fanfiction about technicolor horses.

They should have left /mlp/ merged with /pol/ and then created /fimfik/ for our dong guns

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>>29781818

>>29790553
imo, AU is meant for major plot changes, not correcting small plot holes. It's like using a demolition ball to pin a nail in a wall. Sure, it works, but the ends barely justify the means.

>>29792612
>can be made less gay
Hm...

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>>29789371
Alternate Universe where Twilight, the Crown Princess of Equestria, is the reluctant captain of an airship. Said airship is abroad when a war breaks out, and has to fight its way home. The Mane 6 are the officers of the ship- Rarity is the XO, AJ is the Weapons Officer, Flutters is the chief engineer, Dash is in charge of the Pegasus Marines, etc. I want to write it, but I feel like no one will want to read it, because it's AU.

>>29781818
I know! Especially when it's a man taking a big fat horse cock in his ass!
The internet is wonderful.

>>29789371

Some war story set at least 50 years before the show, when the griffin were still a major superpower.

Dragons invade Badlands and claim it as their year-round territory, even outside of breeding season. Paranoid Equestrian generals think letting them get away with it will show that Equestria is a weak country that can't defend its borders, encouraging the Griffons to make more aggressive moves in some territory conflicts in the north sea. Falklands style invasion begins, reluctantly approved by Celestia after an almost unanimous "yea" vote.

The story wouldn't feature lots of combat except for a few scenes relatively far away from the front line (Airships, artillery, commanders). It would mostly center around homesick ponies going from zeals to cynics wondering why they're even bothering to defend that useless land.

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>>29792623
What change? We see plenty of them in the show, and more in the EU or by implication (in the number of different species without a homeland shown on the official maps).

>>29792766
Making Twilight unable to teleport, Dash unable to fly and none of them communicating with weather ponies seem like big changes.

>>29792849
When have they shown the ability to teleport, fly or communicate across dimensional boundaries? There's Sunset and Twilight's vibrating books, but we don't know where they came from or how hard it'd be to make more; note that nothing like them ever shows up in any other situation where long-distance communication would be useful.

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>>29792687
>Paranoid Equestrian generals think letting them get away with it will show that Equestria is a weak country that can't defend its borders
Wanting to defend your borders is "paranoid" now?

>reluctantly approved by Celestia
Not really a fan of Celestia as gutless puppet. Having approved the action, does she at least take an active role, as she does in the Sombra war? Using only canon abilities, she could cover territories with permanent eclipses if she wanted.

>wondering why they're even bothering to defend that useless land
I hope there's some kind of answer to this within the story. This is decades before Appleloosa is established, so why *are* ponies trying to claim territory that far south, especially if it's a dragon breeding ground? Were they inhabiting it all before the invasion? How long have they been claiming it?

That leads in turn to the question of why Equestria seems so undeveloped everywhere. Is every species underpopulated because almost everyone is gay or lesbian?

Why do dragons breed in the Badlands? Is that based on something in canon? There's apparently a sea, a stretch of jungle or swamp and a range of mountains they'd have to cross to get there.

Regardless, I hope you find readers if you end up posting it.

>>29793082
>Were they inhabiting it all
*inhabiting it *at* all

>>29793069
>including X in a story would require a nonzero amount of justification
>therefore X is a shit idea and must never be used
I want this meme to die

>>29793104
Tell it to >>29792623.

>>29793082
I don't want to start a sperg war over this, since I pretty much let the idea down, but I'll reply to these points.

>Celestia puppet

The political system in the fic is similar to Britain, having the royalty as symbolic leaders while the power is in the democratic government's hands. There's also some law on using the sun and moon for non-natural purposes, since ponies and Celestia figured out they could easily genocide the whole world through darkness if they wanted to.

Anyways, Celestia actively opposes the war and advocates for a compromise or even letting the dragons keep the land. However, since the chamber and Equestrian population are initially very keen to starting the war, she can't really keep them from doing so without pitting herself against her own country.

>so why *are* ponies trying to claim territory that far south, especially if it's a dragon breeding ground?

I'm trying to make some kind of parallel with the Falklands. It's a mostly useless, underpopulated land, but letting it get away isn't necessarily the best idea when you have some other similar border conflicts up north. Conquering it is a huge pain in the ass, but letting it go would basically tell the Griffin "I don't have the men to defend my land, so come take it as you want."

>Why do dragons breed in the Badlands?

Didn't Spike go there precisely because it was breeding season or something? The show clearly shows us several dozen if not hundred dragons going there on an at least yearly basis. Breeding migration isn't unheard of, and the Badlands look like the perfect place for dragons, being mostly empty and having perfect weather, therefore being a safe heaven to hatch eggs.

>>29793069
>across dimensional boundaries?

I thought the forest was also in Equestria. Anyways, there's that time Twilight teleported away from the Phoenix nest.

>>29788633
>Why should it be red? The only reason would be to post porn and that can really already be done by just posting the link.
If that were the only difference, then the reason would simply be convenience.

Why should it be banned if it's accepted in the form of links? That's inconsistent and slightly hypocritical.

>>29788633
>Why should it be red? The only reason would be to post porn and that can really already be done by just posting the link.
Don't underestimate the dampening power of an extra step. Not to mention that there used to be *original* porn posted here (e.g. LiveSmutAnon).

>>29788633
(Regarding my post >>29783612)

Thanks for the feedback

1. Yeah that's what it was meant to be, a short SoL story. I don't like writing short stories that much though, even if the idea is fun.
2. Don't worry, I've addressed all the problems you mentioned already in a way that isn't contrived (I think). remember how in Twilight's Kingdom pegasi lost their ability to fly when their magic was taken away? Also, ponies aren't the only creatures who can control the weather
3. Man, you're really making me want to write this one instead. thanks a lot bud for fixing the problems I had with this one with a simple suggestion.
4. Yeah, futa is gay

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>>29742643
>Next you'll be telling me that Twilight's mane literally turns into fire when she gets mad.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/37764/bringer-of-the-new-dawn

>>29792603
It's ok. You're forgiven.

>>29793172
>I don't want to start a sperg war over this
Too bad.

>The political system in the fic is similar to Britain, having the royalty as symbolic leaders while the power is in the democratic government's hands.
Yeah, that's a common headcanon/brainbug I'm not really a fan of. It seems really hard to reconcile with canon. I saw a fic once with it that looked potentially good, but it was explicitly Alternate Universe; Celestia deliberately signed an agreement to relinquish power because after banishing Luna she didn't want to rule anymore. (Unfortunately I can't find it now.)

>There's also some law on using the sun and moon for non-natural purposes, since ponies and Celestia figured out they could easily genocide the whole world through darkness if they wanted to.
And a law stops them? What was Luna's sentence for breaking it?

>Celestia actively opposes the war
>>29792687
>invasion begins...approved by Celestia
Which is it?

>However, since the chamber and Equestrian population are initially very keen to starting the war, she can't really keep them from doing so without pitting herself against her own country.
So she *can* keep them from doing so, but chooses not to.

>I'm trying to make some kind of parallel with the Falklands. It's a mostly useless, underpopulated land, but letting it get away isn't necessarily the best idea when you have some other similar border conflicts up north. Conquering it is a huge pain in the ass, but letting it go would basically tell the Griffin "I don't have the men to defend my land, so come take it as you want."
So Celestia's wrong, and ponies *do* need to claim it?

>>29793172
>>29793926
>Didn't Spike go there precisely because it was breeding season or something? The show clearly shows us several dozen if not hundred dragons going there on an at least yearly basis.
https://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Transcripts/Dragon_Quest:
>Twilight Sparkle: But Fluttershy, the great dragon migration happens only once in a generation!
I also don't see any mention of the Badlands by name. I guess it fits, being a mountainous desert reachable by land; but it still doesn't make sense to me.

>>29793209
>I thought the forest was also in Equestria.
Then see questions at >>29788633 (though apparently answered at >>29793553).

>Anyways, there's that time Twilight teleported away from the Phoenix nest.
Was that across dimensional boundaries?

>>29792643
I'd read it. Write it anon. Write it and don't look back.

I went back and reread Celestia Sleeps In the other day. I forgot just how slow-paced that story is. Aside from the initial meeting, Lyra spends a grand total of two days on earth, and the story is 150,000 words. Also, there's that entire Trixie subplot that I had completely forgotten about.

It was a bit surprising to see how much inspiration the author drew from Xenophilia. Not only the basic gender roles and societal structure, but Lyra's character was essentially lifted wholesale.

One thing I didn't realize was that Biscuit was an absolute nobody until most of the way through CSI. He still did a blog post for every chapter, but the early ones barely have any comments. The post for chapter 1 is even addressed: "to my (as of now) 8 followers, and everypony else". (Nowadays he has over 1,400 followers.)

One last fun fact from the CSI blog posts: every chapter of CSI was preread by Biscuit's parents

>>29793926

The fic would be tagged AU obviously. If you're not a fan of it, I won't bother convincing you otherwise. Since I lived for a long time in Commonwealth countries, it's the system and turn of events that makes the most sense for me.

>And a law stops them? What was Luna's sentence for breaking it?

In the universe, the law was put in place some time after NMM, after Celestia used the sun and moon in a conflict. It's not really a law as we know it, but some personal rule the princess keeps to herself, since she saw what destruction lack of sun causes.

Think about it, stopping earth's rotation for two weeks and leaving one side in the dark. Most plants and some animals would die, temperature would plummet and the population in general would panic. You're basically destroying or heavily crippling a civilization slightly slower than a NBC weapon would.

>Which is it?

Reluctantly approved by Celestia. She "approves" it by passing the order, which she always does with the government.

>So Celestia's wrong, and ponies *do* need to claim it?

Celestia is suggesting some compromise to either permit entry or give away the Badlands to the dragons. Politicians and army commanders think it would give a message that Equestria will not intervene if its borders are breached, and prefer a Dragon war instead of a potential Griffon one. There's not really a right side, both have their reasons which are equally valid.

>So she *can* keep them from doing so, but chooses not to

Just like the Queen can take control of most Commonwealth governments at any time if she deems they can't handle themselves, or presidents can declare martial law and send in the army. She can, but she know she's pitting her own people against her.

>>29793936

Where else could he have gone? San Palmino exists, but it's mostly desert, not surrounded by mountains as we see in the episode. The Badlands are fairly close to Dragon's lair, have apparently similar landscape and have the forest down south

>>29794251
>The fic would be tagged AU obviously
>In the universe, the law was put in place some time after NMM
You said the fic was set "at least 50 years before the show"; that may have confused me.

>Think about it, stopping earth's rotation for two weeks and leaving one side in the dark. Most plants and some animals would die, temperature would plummet and the population in general would panic. You're basically destroying or heavily crippling a civilization slightly slower than a NBC weapon would.
I wouldn't think she'd have to stop the planet's rotation; just position the moon so that it always shadows a particular region. But I guess it depends on how the system works in your particular story (related discussion: >>29704163).

>>29794196
>>29792643
I'd read it as well. Follow your dreams, Anon.

>>29767230
>https://pastebin.com/N1FQQeB0
Poor transcription desu. Cleaned it up a bit and reposted it at https://pastebin.com/PNUFvqaX. (I also edited it a bit for grammar and flow.)

>>29794302
Yup, I'd be before the show, although totally not canon.

As for the earth stopping example, that was related to our planet. Celestia's way of doing it would involve positioning the sun on one side and combining its movement with the moon's to create an illusion of day/night cycle, except for the targeted area which would be left in the dark.

>>29794866
Not sure I understand, but I'll leave it to be worked out between you and your readers if you end up posting the story.

>>29794879
Thanks

>>29794505
good

Reading Silver Glow's journal right now. It's actually a pretty pleasant and relaxing read, very cozy and great for times when you're tired and don't feel up for reading anything particularly complex or exciting.

>>29796102
I'd guess its cozy for the first hundred thousand words then rapidly becomes drek before much longer.

I just dont get the hype behind a million words of SoL

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>>29779198
Here anons have some clopfics

http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2FrPBZyRGr
http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2Fu%2FVell1245
http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2Fu%2FPonyPlotWorship

>>26353961

Comfy coco http://pastebin.com/NjB43DRG
Sim nameless
http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2FycY3zrvA
http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2FY2AahdQp
http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2F3AFdqxvs
http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2Ff8f09HB4

http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2FuY83evb2

Archives http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdesustorage.org%2Fmlp%2Fthread%2F26241613%2F

http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmyhentaicomics.com%2Findex.php%2Ftag%2F549%2FParody%253A%2BFoster%2527s%2BHome%2BFor%2BImaginary%2BFriends

Anon in equestria stories
http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dropbox.com%2Fsh%2Fju8ygvv3n4fa0um%2FquC3vIooOq%23%2F
http://pastebin.com/JJuwgkBe
http://pastebin.com/u/GypsyWritefag
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/209449/3/celestia-and-anons-adventures-in-submission-and-dominance/part-three
http://mulpwiki.org/index.php/Celestia%27s_Stupid_Rule_(LunaXAnon)
http://pastebin.com/u/Uh-hmmm
http://pastebin.com/vkLBzQCA
http://pastebin.com/u/Vhatug
http://pastebin.com/8b9prAJs
http://pastebin.com/nSycwrUu
http://pastebin.com/GJyQquaY
http://mulpwiki.org/index.php/Moon-Day_Pastebin_Stories
http://mulpwiki.org/index.php?title=Category:Clopfic&pagefrom=A+Tricksie+Situation
http://pastebin.com/u/lulzies
http://pastebin.com/QZ4PDe7g
http://pastebin.com/GJyQquaY
http://pastebin.com/GJyQquaY
http://pastebin.com/Qg2dwzq0
http://pastebin.com/
https://pastebin.com/0yfMAgG2

>>29789371
"Twilight botches a spell" mirror universe, only it's told entirely from the mirror universe's perspective.

>>29790553
The AU tag's supposed to be for major diversions from canon (NMM wins, they're all giraffes instead of ponies, etc.), not trying to spackle over plotholes.

>>29792643
Sounds cool. I'd read it. I'm a sucker for dirigibles. I still miss CMC airship anon's fic.

>>29792849
Which would only be there for plugging plotholes and not for actually making a worthwhile setting. It's like having a "break into a house" horror movie set in a universe where there are no police, guns, or cell phones.

>>29793553
If you go a "magic dampening" route then the question of "why are they there to begin with" become a lot bigger. It seems really stupid to have any form of transportation (train, dirigible, etc.) take them through such dangerous, uncontrollable territory and if they go in willingly then one would think they'd be prepped correctly for the enviroment.

It still feels contrived, although the reasons have at least been bundled into one. I'd still recommend cutting it down to only two or three of the M6. Not only would that tighten the story up, but it would help to cut down on the reader rolling their eyes.

>>29793663
Don't forget about https://www.fimfiction.net/story/63811/what-choice-do-i-have

>>29796910
>"Twilight botches a spell" mirror universe, only it's told entirely from the mirror universe's perspective.
Sounds fun.
What else would there be to it?

>>29796910
>Which would only be there for plugging plotholes and not for actually making a worthwhile setting.

It's exactly what I meant. I'm >>29792623

>>29796910
>not one but TWO anons somehow misread "alternate dimension" as "alternate universe"

>>29796738
Was that meant as a reply to >>29765998? Also, next time please post actual URLs of content instead of "deferer" links.

>>29796910
>The AU tag's supposed to be for major diversions from canon (NMM wins, they're all giraffes instead of ponies, etc.), not trying to spackle over plotholes.
See >>29797717.

>It's like having a "break into a house" horror movie set in a universe where there are no police, guns, or cell phones.
So, set in the past? Like the tower siege in The Hunchback of Notre Dame? Or the MLP universe, for that matter?

>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/63811/what-choice-do-i-have
That's the one I was actually thinking of; thanks.

>>29798264
>they're all giraffes instead of ponies
that sounds like the best AU ever

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>>29796738
>You
>You
>You
>You
>You you you you youyouyouyouyouyou

But why, tho?

On that note, what are some AUs you all actually like?

>>29800222
Any AU that is actually used to its full extent instead of correcting small errors.

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>>29798935
Sounds to me better suited to a visual medium than text.

>>29800579
What are "errors" in this context? There are things in canon that are contradictory or doesn't make sense, but don't you pretty much have to "correct" them to write about a part of canon they affect?

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>>29800222
I'm not well enough read to name many myself; and most I could name are grimdark and/or fetish ones. The Triptych Continuum has some interesting concepts if it counts, though.

>>29800222
Night's Favoured Child, obviously.
DOWAS
The Mare Who Once Lived on the Moon
The Enchanted Library
The Lies We Tell to Children
Equestria Exiled
The Freeport Venture

>>29800867
I've been reading some one shots from that since it got featured recently. Is the main story worth it? I don't read often so an unfinished ~300k fic is a big deal to me.

>>29800992
>Night's Favoured Child, obviously.
Haven't read it, but everyone who mentions it does seem to love it (or at worst hate it for being abandoned).

>The Freeport Venture
So, the Winningverse?

>>29800222
Related question: What qualifies a story as *not* an AU? Since MLP is ongoing, isn't the "canon" universe inevitably going to diverge from any fanfic of substance?

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>>29801051
Couldn't tell you; haven't actually read that far.

>>29801187
>So, the Winningverse?
No, Freeport Venture specifically. I assume it inherits normal Winningverse backstory, but Sunset doesn't go through the mirror. Instead she runs off to The Pirate Bay and gets into trouble with necromancers and the Pony CIA.

>>29801187

>What qualifies a story as *not* an AU?

Any story that doesn't explicitly contradict canon, even if it posits things that are unlikely or un-thematic in the context of the show, is not an AU.

Most people also don't consider stories AU if they didn't explicitly contradict canon when they were written. For example, there are a bunch of fics where the griffons are basically Klingons. If such a story was written today, it would be AU, because it turns out they're actually more like the Ferengi, but many readers would consider an S1-S3 story with that characterization perfectly fair.

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>>29801270
Huh. I wish there were an up-to-date guide to what was in what timeline.

>>29801335
Meant to reply to >>29801254.

>>29801270
Sounds like Triptych and DOWAS might not qualify, then.

>>29801335
>deadderpyverse
do I even want to know?

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Update tomorrow, looks like

>>29801270
Hmm, so Dangerous Business wouldn't be an AU, because it was written when we didn't know the things in it were explicitly non-canon; but Besides the Will of Evil is an AU, since it uses things from Dangerous Business that we now know aren't canon in the show? Is that a good example?

Anybody remember the name of a story where Twilight goes into an alternate universe where Cadence turned evil and took over and has snake eyes and a slave Chrysalis she rapes?

>>29802355
>Anybody remember the name of a story where Twilight goes into an alternate universe
I know a few
>where Cadence turned evil and took over
Hmm, not ringing a bell
>and has snake eyes
Uhh
>and a slave Chrysalis she rapes?
What the fuck man

Is this a clopfic or what? Got any more details about it?

>>29802355
Seconding the request for details.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6559872/1/Pinkie-Pie-and-Applejack-s-Cooking-Hour

I read the oldest FIM fic on Fanfiction.net

it was ok

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>>29801913
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/108173/through-death-and-life

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>>29802414
It's also on Fimfiction: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/7001/pinkie-pie-and-applejacks-cooking-hour
I wonder whether there were older fics since deleted.

>>29802436
Fimfiction also has the second oldest ponyfic, which is predictably a shipping fic. with Wingboners!

>>29802436
The Wayback crawler doesn't work on FF.net, so I guess we'll never know

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>>29802355
Can you find it under https://www.fimfiction.net/group/197292/princess-cadance, possibly https://www.fimfiction.net/group/197292/folder/4390/1/dark or https://www.fimfiction.net/group/197292/folder/4386/1/alternate-universe?

>>29802382
It's a full story, just had sex scenes.
>>29802484
I've looked there and didn't see it. It was years ago, I really don't remember much more. Twilight goes to the palace and I think it was night, Cadence is sitting alone on a throne and Twilight sees her monstrous appearance. Stuff happens and Twilight escapes back to her world, and Cadence has some kind of army, might have been Chrysalis's conquered changelings, and wants to take over the other universes. At some point she's taunting her universe's beaten Chrysalis while raping her, perverted stuff.

For some reason I thought it was by Eakin or someone similar. Mirror pool or crystal mirror or something they discovered to explore different universes.

>>29802462
You got me to dig for it. The things on that site...

>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/391806/1/Baby-Northy-and-Lil-Bro-Bright-Boquet-s-Adventures
>This story is about 2 young Baby Ponies in my herd, who just happen to be Boyfriend and Girlfriend and the adventures they have together
Okay, "my herd" *probably* isn't meant in the Xenophilia sense; but I'm not sure what it *does* mean.

>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/718687/1/Living-Shadow
>THis is the early history of a earth pony named Emerald, and how she became to be known as Emerald Shadow...
An early emo OC?

>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/748429/1/A-wedding-story
>Someone wants to get married, but not before their mate to be accepts everything about them, namely the little ponies.
The precursor to Fifty Shades of Neigh?

>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6269722/1/My-MLP-Tales-Episodes-Season-2
Why is someone using ponies as a mouthpiece to make an argument about 9/11?

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/434462/1/Catrina, on the other hand, I remember being not too bad for its length.

>>29802575
Good news, I found it with the help of fimfetch.net
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/89913/who-rules-shattered-hearts
It's fifth in his series, so probably won't make sense if anyone else just wanted to read it.

>>29779198
Are there any stories on fimfiction involving a human dude transforming into Mrs. Cake?

>>29802655
No, but now I'm interested.

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>>29802653

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>>29779256
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/203023/homophobia-stories

>>29802645
The oldest mlp fic on the site appears to be this poem
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/69906/1/Dreams-of-Ponyland

Which I kind of like. It's about Megan enjoying her adventures with ponies but eventually outgrowing them and moving on with her life. That may just make it the most unrealistic ponyfic ever written, but its nice nonetheless

>>29802705
>no Complete tag
Did the site only introduce them at a later time or something?

>>29802730
Maybe poetry doesn't use those tags? It's not like people really post multi chapter poems

>>29802748
People on Fimfiction post poetry collections. I usually ignore them, though (like stories that don't say Complete).

>>29800222
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/322316/twilight-the-third this one's been lots of fun so far. Starts off kinda weird but gets really good.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/247031/the-mare-who-once-lived-on-the-moon obviously

Novel Idea's Wavelengths Timeline is really good too. Here's the first one (chronologically) https://www.fimfiction.net/story/352029/the-alchemy-of-chemistry

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/341625/around-the-world-in-81-days-and-other-problems-caused-by-leap-years This is one that doesn't need any more stories in the series but it's a very well made AU

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/268391/mortal-coil I have harped about this story so many times and I'll do it again. Get past the sloppy editing and it's a ton of fun.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/161159/the-mare-in-the-high-castle I've shilled this one before too. Really good aesthetic conjured by the writing here.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/214578/the-freeport-venture another pretty obvious one.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/252269/the-witch-of-the-everfree Also outstanding worldcrafting. Less AU-y than some but it's got the tag~

PaulAsaran's universe is fucking crazy but I haven't delved into it in a while and it's starting to be intimidating. I do remember really enjoying it before though.

>>29802655
actually...
I do recall seeing that. think it was a five score or why am i pinkie pie knockoff/bandwagon though I couldnt find it on a tag search

Ok im having a minor freakout

why do https://www.fimfiction.net/story/126007/prismatic

and

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/369346/lyras-and-bon-bons-foalish-adventure

have story numbers separated by nearly 250,000 when they were published on the same day?

According to the numbers, Prismatic should be from August of 2013

>>29803168
You can upload a fic and publish it at a different date.

https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/700219/december-2016-update

>>29797059
It would be about mirror!Twilight trying to hunt down prime!Twilight through Equestria, with the chapters showing off the mirror universe, such as the Republic fo Griffonstone's capitol being besieged, the Crystal Republic's slow transformation into a totalitarian dictatorship under Cadance, and Empress Celestia's plan to corrupt prime!Twilight into her immortal crony.

I'll probably never write it since it'd be a longer fic and I can't even get motivated to finish a couple oneshots.

>>29797717
Please. They're the same thing. It's like saying "it's an alternate timeline, not an alternate universe."

>>29800222
Night's Favoured Child (https://www.fimfiction.net/story/5523/nights-favoured-child) will always hold the crown for me as well as the crown for deadfics.

Re:Harmony (https://www.fimfiction.net/story/78420/reharmony) does a good "total AU" as well as giving off a shonen vibe, but the arc fatigue can get really real.

The Night that Never Ended (https://www.fimfiction.net/story/25219/the-night-that-never-ended) is one of the classic "Twilight botches a spell" AU's that helped set up the "NMM wins" genre.

A World Without Rainbows (https://www.fimfiction.net/story/92) is the other genre defining one, but it's been dead for so long I've completely forgotten it's plot and whether it was any good.

>>29801187
>What qualifies a story as *not* an AU?
Any fic where there are no substantial deviations from canon at or near the start of the story.

That's the key. AU fics upfront tell the reader "this isn't the world you're familiar with" and then (hopefully) dive right into the worldbuilding to flesh things out and get the plot going.

>>29802355
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/75113/cadences-present
Closest I could find.

>>29802653
Damn it. I dismissed that one because it didn't seem dark enough.

Would any of you be interested in helping with an idea that wound up abandoned a few years ago?

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/104983/mortality-a-community-written-story

>>29802698
>https://www.fimfiction.net/group/203023/homophobia-stories
>DISCLAIMER: Just to be clear, no admins are homophobic nor do we tolerate it.
Well, there goes any possible fun...

>>29803611
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/104983/mortality-a-community-written-story

>This is a relatively different approach to writing a story. The idea is of a community written story, each chapter shall be a collaboration by any writer who feels interested in participating.

Yeah, 'cause things worked out so well last time we tried that.

I may be up for it, thought. What's else can you tell us about the story?

>>29803057
Awesome. Anyone else know about this story?

Why are Displaced fics a thing?

>>29804379
Basic idea is distant future AU Equestrian, Twilight is feeling emotional for out living her friends.

>>29805303
There's also a group for the story collaborating with characters that are supposed to be the reincarnations of Twilight's friends that the idea is she slowly comes across them, noticing the familiarity, then magic something rather and they remember their past lives.

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>>29803168
>>29803260
Found the placeholder entry still archived on fimfetch:
https://fimfetch.net/story/126007/w (or https://archive.is/isMiX)

>>29803499
>Please. They're the same thing. It's like saying "it's an alternate timeline, not an alternate universe."
But those are also different things.

>Any fic where there are no substantial deviations from canon at or near the start of the story.
What's "substantial", though? All fanfic deviates from canon by definition; and canon itself is currently regularly being changed and added to.

>>29805296
I don't know; why are one-line posts impatiently demanding detailed explanations of complex social and psychological phenomena without showing any effort by the poster toward understanding them themselves or even acknowledging the thread they barged into a thing?

>>29805562
Shitty fanfic concepts aren't exactly complex social and psychological phenomena

>>29805578
Too complex for >>29805296 to grasp without being spoonfed, apparently.

>>29805296
because horsefuckers have no standards

>>29750910
>Would you guys say that there are hugely influential fics that have been written? If so, what are they and what did they influence?
Possibly related: https://www.fimfiction.net/group/201778/rage-reviews/thread/137102/the-most-influential-stories-on-the-site

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>>29805296
I remember there being some good discussions of the topic in the Rage Reviews group; currently digging through it to look for them.

Somewhat related thread found already:
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/201778/rage-reviews/thread/127507/why-are-hies-so-popular-anyway

>>29806760
I mean, I can understand why HiE is a thing even though it's shit, but the concept Displaced is just inherently too contrived to be any good.

>tfw started talking to people since 1 month and actually got the will to keep writing from it

Bye guys, I've ascended to productive writing.

>>29807844
we dont believe you

>>29807844
I second the disbelief, but wish you the best nonetheless.

I hope you manage to write something that isn't shit, Anon. Do remember to post it here for our enterntainment and so we can tell you that it is shit after all.

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https://www.fimfiction.net/story/124173/the-adventures-of-professor-twilight-sparkle-and-agent-rainbow-dash-a-quest-to-stop-hitler-super-bacteria-and-retarded-bees-named-randall

>>29803611
>who wants to live forever?
Meh. If I'd ever write something like that, it'd probably be a comedy oneshot. "Celestia, Luna, Twilight, Cadance, and Discord engage in idle small talk as the last black hole dies and heat death occurs." Something like that.

I'm up for editing, though.

>>29805296
crossover with popular franchise + wish fulfillment + whatever flavor of the month (Fall of Equestria, newest season finale villain, etc.) + confirmation bias (for every one that gets featured, there's probably a dozen that barely break even on the like/dislike ratio)

Voicey just uploaded a sub Milestone video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64LJoQQUBFE

He's gone full Patreon whore

>>29809417
As stated in the description, all chapters are open to rewrites to improve the quality.

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Does anyone know any fics where ponies(not necessarily the main cast) watch my little human?
Or something romanian related

almost five hours and still on page 8?
did /mlp/ finally die?

>>29804428
looked again but still couldnt find it, sorry

>>29809134
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/124173/the-adventures-of-professor-twilight-sparkle-and-agent-rainbow-dash-a-quest-to-stop-hitler-super-bacteria-and-retarded-bees-named-randall
...And? I'm pretty sure we're all familiar with the abundance of unfunny "random" stories on the site (even if this one lacks the tag).

>>29802655
https://www.fimfiction.net/stories?tags%5B%5D=c%3A69&tags%5B%5D=g%3Ahuman&order=latest
There are forty-nine stories with the human tag and Mrs. Cake tag, none of which match what you're looking for.
Try FiMFetch, instead.

>>29813622
I found one where two twins get reincarnated as the Cake twins, though.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/172843/have-we-been-foald

humpty bumpty

y so ded?

>>29814581
Still reading through Rage Reviews forum threads following >>29806760.

>>29814581
My job only gives me around 3 hours of free time a say, so I've been doing very little reading. That, and I'm writing non-pony smut for the time being, so there's that.

>>29814789
>non-pony smut
fucking disgusting deviant

Thread's on page 8 so I might as well post my stupid question to keep it from being kill.

How did you guys get into writing as a hobby? I'm interested in writing fics because it seems like a lot fun, but I want to know what made you all decide to write and post stuff and why you enjoy it so much.

>>29816014
I started writing primary as a kid while at church--doodling and writing down story synopses. Then when I stumbled across fanfics (don't remember how), I shifted focus over to them because reading them was so enjoyable.

Eventually hand wrote a 40 page outline for a TLK fanfic, spanning 100 years in-universe. Wrote ~60k of the actual story (which was to be divided into 40 separate parts) before giving up and, thankfully, never posted it because holy shit was it even more autistic than it sounds.

Then the pone ride came calling and I hopped onto that.

As for enjoyment, I just like creating stories, tying characters, settings, and the plot all together in a neat bow and maybe throwing in some comedy and fanfic references if the tone's right.

>>29816014

I don't remember when I started, but I do remember writing Star Trek fanfic for school assignments. That was around the time the Berlin wall fell over.

>>29816014
>How did you guys get into writing as a hobby?
I got a writing assignment in 6th grade. It was just a single page, and I ended up writing around seven. I loved doing it and had a wonderful time.

Then, I didn't think about it until my last year of high-school, because I'm a dunce.

Afterwards, though, once I got into pony fanfic, I started consuming them faster than I could find stories to read so I just took matters into my own hands.

>>29816014
I wasn't gud enough to draw, so I started writing to get my ideas through.

>>29816014
When I was a child, I swallowed books at an impressive rate, and as far as I can remember I've always liked writing. One breeds the other, I think.

On the rare occasions that we got to do creative writing in school I would always be that kid who went off the rails and delivered stories way longer than the intended length of the assignment. I can remember one of my teachers liking a story so much she read it aloud to the class, not knowing that it was Runescape fanfiction.
I've always been the confident sort, so once you're convinced that you're pretty good at writing, it's only natural that you try to show it to people. Which in my case meant going online.
Now, I quickly figured out that "pretty good" for a kid isn't the same as actually good, but that kind of never mattered either. My enjoyment of writing has always been there no matter how good I think I am.

I never really did anything with it though, and I wouldn't call it a hobby.
I'm always planning to write, though I very rarely do. Constantly noting down ideas and fragments, and picking apart other stories to try to see what makes them work. On the occasions that I do write, I will spend hours writing, day in and day out until I either finish or give up. One big burst. I've grown to accept either outcome, as most of the enjoyment lies in the writing process itself, but it's always nice to get something out and into the open. Haven't written anything longer than a oneshot in about two years.

>>29816014
Like the other fags above, I loved creative writing in school and always overdelivered. Still remember how I wrote parodies of fairy tales and fantasy in primary school and how much i enjoyed it. Then adolescence hit and I lost most of my confidence as well as will to live, so I didn't write or read much.

Few years ago I started writing again and honing my writing skills. At some point I found Fimfiction, read a few stories and decided to write horsefiction because I love the characters so much. So far I've only published two short stories but I've written a lot more. The crippling depression is still here though, and I can only be bothered to read non-fiction nowadays.

Alright, we're on page 9 and my last newfag question got some discussion going so let's try again.

I'm nervous for writing my first story. What was the first ponyfic you wrote and, looking back, how cancerous do you think it was?

>>29817450
> my last newfag question got some discussion going so let's try again.
That was just a fluke

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>>29817999
I guess so. I just didn't want the thread to die early, but I'll leave it alone now.

>>29816014
I've always loved reading and creative writing was easy for me in school, so I naturally started reading fanfics when I got into MLP
And I thought to myself, "holy shit these are all bad"

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>>29805296
>>29806760
>>29814683
Finally found the post I was remembering:

https://www.fimfiction.net/group/201778/rage-reviews/thread/274712/worst-clichs-and-tropes#comment/5467586
>[I]t's not each individual Displaced story that's an overpowered RP session, but the entire community of Displaced writers that are supposed to (or hope to) roleplay with each other by crossing over into each other's stories. >[I]t's not a genre -- it's a social activity.
>That explains why there are so many shitty stories -- because starting one is how you join the game.
>That explains why they are blatant self-inserts -- your story is your character sheet.
>That explains why they are unreadable to outsiders -- they're not written for an audience, but for your co-players.
>That explains why their groups are so full of rules and "lore" and discussions of what is or isn't "allowed" in a story.

Other threads and blog posts where it's discussed:
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/622701/princess-ember-an-analysis-of-gold-rushes-bandwagons-and-next-big-things
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/641954/the-problem-of-anon
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/670120/the-innate-superiority-of-man-common-problems-in-hies-
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/201778/rage-reviews/thread/289773/so-is-there-such-a-thing-as-good-displaced-fics#comment/5731190
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/707576/an-oil-and-water-hypothesis-the-problem-of-fundamentally-incompatible-themes-in-crossovers
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/201778/rage-reviews/thread/299632/an-oil-and-water-hypothesis-the-problem-of-fundamentally-incompatible-themes-in-crossovers-discussion-piece

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>>29810082
>Does anyone know any fics where ponies(not necessarily the main cast) watch my little human?
A simple Google search for "My Little Human" turns up a few. Surprisingly, there doesn't seem to be a group on the site organizing them. Someone should make one. (Not it.)

>>29818214
Huh, that actually makes a ton of sense.
Thanks for finding those

>>29818214
>>29818236
To clarify: by "it" I mean Displaced in general, not that particular post about it. Sorry for any confusion.

>>29817450
>What was the first ponyfic you wrote and, looking back, how cancerous do you think it was?
It annoys me to no end that despite numerous attempts, I haven't been able to find an archived version of my first FimFic story. I wrote it pretty early on, and eventually decided that it was a lost cause, so I just deleted it. Abandoned that account, and when I returned to writing a significant amount of time later, I forgot the name of it.

It was a all-OC AU thing about some ponies going on an adventure to discover secret from the past (tied to Luna I), but ended before the adventure proper started. Other than that I remember very little.
It's probably horrible, but I'd still like to read it again.

Sometimes I wonder if I ever actually wrote it, or if I've created some sort of false memory. Might just never have published it, now that I think about it.

>>29817450
I started and abandoned several projects, for different reasons, but I never posted any of it since I didn't want to disappoint anyone. Eventually, I decided that I was going to finish and post a story on fimfiction come hell or high water and crapped out a one-shot clopfic. It got a few dozen likes and is probably pretty average for the genre, but then again, given the way clop is consumed I'm quite happy with that contribution to the site. I also got Zaid and Cancerino to edit it, so it probably came out better than most first attempts.

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>no new good stories to feature, so they have to go back to previously featured author's for material
Is this a clear sign that the fandom is slowling down?

>>29819641
Hey, I remember you. Good to know you're still around. Your story was pretty hot, have you written anything new since then, clop or otherwise?

>>29819589
>It annoys me to no end that despite numerous attempts, I haven't been able to find an archived version of my first FimFic story.
With a post this vague, you can be sure nobody's going to help you find it. Assuming that's not secretly the point, What's the title and what was your account name?

>>29820199
>What's the title and what was your account name?
If I could remember either I would have found it by now.

>>29820248
How can you not remember your account name?

>>29820280
Probably because I've since then had two or three other accounts. I'm not an organised man.

>>29820177
I wrote some random clopshot for the Princess Applejack threads and posted it to my fimfiction account, but it's pretty crappy since I rushed it and didn't know much about BDSM.

I'm currently working on a SunLight story for my main account (you might remember me as the guy who was trying to figure out how Sunset could leverage Equestrian advances in science to make a living in the human world). It's currently sitting at 70k words, and I was hoping to finish it by summer, but my thesis is kicking my ass right now, so my new goal is to publish by year's end, using NaNoWriMo as a final push if necessary.

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>>29820177
You may be right. They've been going since the end of 2013 so it is not as if they were working through a large backlog. Hell, found one story published in Dec 2016 then added to their archive in Jan 2017 so they're keeping up with recent high quality fics too.

It's no question that the fandom has slowed down, but it's really sad to read that because it's the first measurable effect I've seen. Of course, it may just be a policy change since they have a lot of features and some authors have written more than one good thing. And they do have really fucking high standards it could just be that there's a drought of high quality work. Probably not though.

>>29820375
>It's currently sitting at 70k words, and I was hoping to finish it by summer,
Hey, that's awesome. Do share it once it's done or nearing completion.

>but my thesis is kicking my ass right now
Ah, I've been there. Don't worry, it's going to get worse before it's done. You know how cancer patients reach unbearable levels of pain as their condition worsens, yet in the few seconds before they die, their brain starts shutting down and there's a moment where they no longer feel any pain and there's a soft glimmer in their eyes before the darkness claims them?
That's how it feels to finish a thesis.

>>29820375
>It's currently sitting at 70k words, and I was hoping to finish it by summer, but my thesis is kicking my ass right now, so my new goal is to publish by year's end, using NaNoWriMo as a final push if necessary.
Fuck yeah


>Do share it once it's done or nearing completion.
I'd also like to take this opportunity to remind you that not everyone gets buttblasted at the thought of reading an incomplete fic. Once the initial chapters are done, you should post them, even if the rest still needs some editing. That way the rest of us don't have to wait just to keep a few picky readers happy.

>>29820309
I've had some of my email accounts since the nineties and have only abandoned/lost a couple of them. I assume this to be the case for most people
go to password recovery and plug in every email address you've got, then check all of your emails. you may just find that old account

>>29779198
Does anyone know when Genfic is gonna be a reality? A moderated fanfic website would be fucking amazing, and it's been awhile since Knighty last gave an update on it. Plus it'll swell the sites numbers a bit, and we'll get some new talent and shit. Hell, might even convince a few new authors to the site to write ponyfics.

>>29819589
>Luna I
?

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>>29820632
I think it's safe to say the answer is no; no one knows.

>>29817450
>What was the first ponyfic you wrote
A second person Ms. Harshiwnny clopfic written after Flight to the Finish aired. I had fun writing it.

>how cancerous do you think it was?
Oh, it is utter shit. I tried to read it once after I put it up on FiMFic and I couldn't go past the third paragraph of the first chapter. That's also sort of the reason I'm writing a deep intorspective take on sex as an expression of love with my Sparlight story, I want to right past wrongs.
"Ms. Harswhinny's Wish" is still the highest rated Ms. Harswhinny clopfic on the site, though, so take that as you will.

So I finally got around to reading Fractured Sunlight (https://www.fimfiction.net/story/234937/fractured-sunlight) only on chapter 23.

I waited a long time to read it because I assumed, based on the description, that it was an AU story, and more than that one of those AUs where they throw away most everything about the world and characters but keep the names. Not even fanfic at that point. I didn't really want to read Bridge to Terabithia written by an autist.

But now, after having read most of the story, I'm glad I did. It's nice. Though it asks questions that it doesn't bother to explore or brushes off. And there's a distinct lack of conflict. If not for my own investment in the story of SciTwi and Sunset's characters and relationship I probably would have put this story down a while ago. The characters are strong, but some of their issues are brought up but not explored (Sunset's problems with her father and Celestia are the standouts to me) and that's led me to be a little bored. The characters are strong, but they could be stronger. I'm aware of these conflicts the story could have but doesn't and it weakens it for me. 8/10.

>>29821673
Finished it. There was a little conflict there at the end, but not enough for my tastes. Though, the last three chapters did address most of my questions. Like how most of the struggles in the relationship were about Twilight more than Sunset, for instance.

Still 8/10. Oroboro can write good characters, but I just feel that the story was missing something. Or maybe it's me. Fractured Sunlight was pretty much a pure romance story, and I've mostly read stories where the romances were part of a larger story, rather than the point of the story.

>>29817450
>first ponyfic
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/48108/statistics
It remains my favorite fic I've written, not just because it doesn't make me cringe when I reread it unlike Ascend, but because it reminds me of some of the best times I've had on Fimfiction. As sad as it sounds, I'll never forget that moment I saw it in the featured box. I was at my college's bookstore looking at Fimfic on one of the demo tablets.

>>29820632
>it'll swell the sites numbers a bit, and we'll get some new talent and shit
Isn't it going to be a separate domain and site from Fimfic? That's what I remember, anyway.

>>29822630
I liked Ascend...

rage gen

>>29824098
Im out for awhile. someone else bump. or you know posting stuff works too

>>29824671
>posting stuff
That is SO 2012.

Page Seven

>>29824671
>posting stuff
Are you a fag?

>>29825935
>2017
>not being a fag
I bet you don't read stories about stallions taking horsecocks up their butts.

>>29826008
You're right, I don't read them, I write them

>>29821673
>AUs where they throw away most everything about the world and characters but keep the names
I've noticed this is shockingly prevalent on fanfics centered around Twilight. They "kill" her and replace her with an OC bearing the same name and appearance, but that otherwise is a completely different character. She's used as an avatar that the author projects his fantasies. Apparently, canon Twilight isn't "good" enough and "boring".

>>29817450
The first ponyfic I ever wrote, I never actually posted, so that should give you a good sense of how bad it was. Basically it was the good old "Twilight fucks up a spell" device, accidentally turning Spike into a unicorn and Twilight into a dragon, and since Twi was no longer a unicorn she couldn't cast a counterspell, leaving it up to Spike to learn magic more or less from scratch up to a level to do the counterspell himself......except as a pony he starts getting way more popular than he ever was before, including catching Rarity's eye, and starts wondering if he even wants to go back.

I got about 5 chapters into it before I gave up on it in favor of other ideas.

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>>29779198
Speaking of lost stories and old and off-topic stuff, does anyone have the original or third ending of Gazing Through Twilit Eyes by Eirún/Solum-Ipsum/Duke of Unknown Name? I see pages 1 through 5 at >>>/co/25415971 and Ending II at >>>/co/25499711, but there was apparently a previous, "proper troll" ending (http://comments.deviantart.com/4/39367118/4365843802), and possibly a third.

Apparently it was online once at 413chan.net (https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20130505175129/http://fim.413chan.net/fic/res/1148.html#2585), but no longer. Is there anyone who might have a full archive of that site?

I've noticed that writers (show writers and fanfic authors, if we're being honest) get Pinkie Pie wrong the most out of the mane 6, usually reducing her to the one who says random "funny" things if they remember her at all.

Post fics that get Pinkie Pie right.

Also, which episodes get Ponka best and worst?
Best: Probably Griffon the Brush-Off or A Friend in Deed or Pinkie Apple Pie. It's a toss up.
Worst: Castle Mane-ia or Princess Twilight Sparkle (also The Cutie Map, though she had her moments there)

>>29826524
Obligatory mention:

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/84903/twice-as-bright
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/123296/taken-for-granite

>>29826524
What, in your opinion, is the right way to write Ponk?

In fact I might as well ask this from everyone: what are the right and wrong ways to write the Mane 6? Have any examples of best and worst characterization for them?

>>29826649
>worst
I can't decide if the worst trend in bad writing is character death or character lobotomy.
Clunky terms, but you get what I mean.

The first is when a character acts so out of character that it essentially becomes a different entity wearing the skin of the original character. The spectrum goes all the way from just not getting the character (for example writing Rarity as openly cruel), to deliberately overwriting the character's personality (for example to force drama).

Lobotomy is when the latches on to some basic aspect of the character and makes that the entire character. Twilight is reduced to ONLY "muh books and muh magic", Rarity is reduced to ONLY "muh dresses darling", and Pinkie is reduced to ONLY "muh random goofball". One dimensional characters with only one trait.

Both are horrible, and both are common. Then again I have a habit of reading shitfics, so I guess I see it more than you'd normally do.

A related problem is what I'd call character dependency, where in characters only exist in relation to some other character. In certain bad fics, for example HiE, the designated love interest might have no agency on their own, no real opinions of their own, and all function in the story is just as a glorified flesh-accessory to the main character.

The first step towards being good is to avoid all of the above.
Get that characters have more than one trait, but don't become inconsistent.

>>29826649
https://youtu.be/SMr9966gCIM?t=263

I'm not sure how much of what Drowning in Horseshoes to take at face value, since a lot of his stuff seems to be a bizarre meta-commentary on or reaction to the analysis community, but I think he hits on a lot of stuff here.

In short, make Pinkie a character rather than a joke. A character who really does want to make everyone smile, but still has an actual personality and motivations and not one who does random things that might be seen as funny (like her intentionally scaring the bejebus out of her friends in Castle Mane-ia because they were having an "everypony come to the scary old castle and hide from each other while I play the organ" party or ringing a giant bell using her head, or the line "did you guys know I can play an organ? Because I didn't" These all make Pinkie look like an idiot, like she's Homer Simpson or something. The butt of the joke. It's bad character writing and bad comedy writing.).

>>29757122
>The earliest use of estrus in ponyfic I can recall was Raging Semi's stuff on the ponyfiction archive, pre-fimfic. The one I remember clearest was Ponyville literally having a local holiday when it started and holding an all-Ponyville orgy.
http://explicit.ponyfictionarchive.net/viewstory.php?sid=365&warning=9&index=1?
>Rutting Day
>All the mares of Ponyville are in heat. Time for an orgy.

>>29827059
Followup: According to the Clopfic Directory, two other stories with "heat" in the title precede this.

>In Heat for Teacher by RagingSemi (2011-03-25)
http://explicit.ponyfictionarchive.net/viewstory.php?sid=291&warning=9&index=1

>"Beat The Heat" by Scherzo (2011-06-17)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cVyYZ83ZxwZvB23uOKyJBQ97e--dvv4EeILbyed2M5k/edit?hl=en_US

>>29691368
>>29696287
More dendrophilia: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/111505/applebuckin

>>29827309
Why is dendrophilia the word for "love of trees"? Arborphilia makes much more sense. I was going to say it meant love of dendrites, which would be a strange thing to love.

>>29827373
>dendrites
>a crystal or crystalline mass with a branching, treelike structure
>treelike structure

May have answered my own question here.

>>29827373
>>29827381
>Dendrites (from Greek δένδρον déndron, "tree") (also dendron)

look at all the stuff I'm learning.

>>29826104
That's pretty good prompt!
It sounds less generic, that Spike is simply transformed to stallion in order to impress Rarity.
Great idea for Spike's internal conflict.

>>29827381

>a crystal or crystalline mass with a branching, treelike structure

Now I want to read a clop/comedy about a treefucker who goes to a dendropilia support group thinking that it's going to be about helping him get over his love of wood, and it turns out it's actually for ponies who are sexually attracted to stuff like the tree of harmony and Twilight's castle.

I would accept either an ending where he calls them all perverts and goes back to sticking his dick in knotholes like god intended, or where he discovers a new fetish.

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>>29826649
I actually struggled for a long while on how to get Pinkie Pie right. I got her wrong in my first fanfic and barely featured her in my second. But I gradually think I've figured it out.

The key thing people forget, I think, is that Pinkie's actually very clever. She's goofy and silly, true, but she's not stupid. None of the Mane 6 really are, they just have various quirks and disorders. She sees the world in a very distinct way, and that's another thing you have to hone in on; but insofar as you get a grip on that way she sees the world, you shouldn't write her as a moron or a dunce, which I think is a mistake a lot of writers make.

I'm looking for a specific sort of story because I'm in a specific sort of mood.

Are there any hurt/comfort fics with Princess Celestia? Or is she too durable and OP for injury to her to be plausible, and am I asking about the null set here?

Thanks.

>>29827750
>implying RD isn't retarded

>>29828083
Yeah I don't know how anyone could forget that dash is literally retarded

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>>29827750
There's always the people who overcompensate and make her into an extremely smart and socially aware character, which she is to a degree, but there's a underlying simplicity to her which I think is the source of the issue for so many writers. To get Pinkie right you have to straddle the line between the girl who's conscious about the way everypony feels and what they like and dislike, and the one who just likes to do things for fun.

Too much of one and you get the lolsorandumb retard, too much of the other and you have a social strategist with a messy hairdo.

>>29828926
Yeah, but it can be fun to explore a character and try to subvert audience expectations.

See also, "Derpy is clumsy and inarticulate, and has strabismus, but is actually pretty bright, just shy and lacking formal education."

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>rereading through the The Life and Times of Deepthroat Cockslut

Oh wow, I had completely forgotten how fucking retarded that ending was. It was an utterly ham-fisted reversal of characterization completely out of nowhere. It's like the author had an aneurysm and lost some IQ points before writing it. Honestly, the story would have been better had it ended three chapters earlier.

>>29826524
>get Pinkie Pie wrong
Pinkie is probably the hardest of the M6 to do. Comedy fics struggle to nail her personality without seeming lolsorandumb or annoying (an issue even the show's writers have struggled with), while serious stories have that "send off the clowns" problem of having a carefree, lighthearted, and happy character in a setting that needs anything but--hence why her and Fluttershy are almost always ushered away when the warfic comes calling.

>>29826649
It all depends on the story, but in general, she should be: lighthearted, carefree, happy, occasionally unable to get the hint, quick-thinking, and more perceptive than she lets on.

>wrong ways to write the Mane 6
Boiling away their personalities to the bare bones (muh books, muh accent, muh darling, muh s-stuttering, muh awesomeness, muh randomness).

>>29829560
I actually enjoyed the buildup to the end

Cockslut says, "I'm going to go get great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandmas cursed, sentient power armor and save the world. That ought to get me a few more good dickings".
Cursed, sentient power armor: "lol, nah"

I mean that seriously was the high point of the entire thing and even that was only worth a chuckle

I read Princess Molestia, and it was trash.
Utter, complete, unredeemable trash.

I don't like to drop a fic halfway through and I was really forcing myself to read the last few chapters with just how poorly written this steaming bucket of acute diarrhea is.

And then those fuckers just had to make an epilogue for this insult to literature, as well as TWO fucking alternate endings, because FUCK YOU.

>>29830009
>I don't like to drop a fic halfway through and I was really forcing myself to read the last few chapters
I used to do that until I finally accepted that shitty horsewords just arent worth the time and effort to grind your way through.
If its uninteresting, boring, poorly written, has OoC issues, a ship you don't like, or any manner of other piddly issue that rubs you the wrong way, dont hesitate to drop that shit.

Theres over 100,000 microhorsefics. No one said you had to read all of them

>>29830009
>I read Princess Molestia, and it was trash.
By the sound of it, you were reading pic related?
Why on earth would you even pick up a fanfic-of-a-anfic with tags like that? If you really want to read about Equestria's rapiest princess, I'm sure it's not that hard to find an archive of the original tumblr.

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>>29831094
>pic related
herp derp

>>29831094
>Why on earth would you even pick up a fanfic-of-a-anfic with tags like that?
I dont know, but its got 570,561 total views and an 8:1 ratio...

...which pretty much confirms that horsefuckers will read and approve of anything

>>29831936
Standards for fanfiction are pretty low generally.

If you think horsewords are bad, go read some animoo fanfiction some time--and be prepared to cringe. A tiny bit of it is good, and there are gems to be found--but it's like diving into a sewer to search for them.

>>29832004
>A tiny bit of it is good, and there are gems to be found--but it's like diving into a sewer to search for them.
You just described 4chan.

>>29832004
oh I've got an ffnet account too. yeah weebfiction is slightly worse than horsefuckery, but comparatively speaking even the battlestar galacticaXstargateXwalking deadXbreaking bad four way crossovers would be works of art

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>>29829276
Obligatory: >>>/co/21206638

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>>29832178
Also: >>>/co/21991497

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>>29832188
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TQcrXBh97dQgS5eTUdXp_ij0d-uwbZj4aTHhb0CidTA/edit?hl=en_US

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>>29827980
She's had plenty of emotional hurt. I remember liking cydoniia's stories (https://www.fimfiction.net/stories?user=4926) back when I was looking at the shortest stories on the site, but now I'm not sure; looking at them again to put them in a timeline, I'm not sure https://www.fimfiction.net/story/3779/o-sun is even coherent.

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>>29827980
>>29832265
Looking through my read stories:
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/9098/tears-of-a-goddess

>>29832075
Oh. Very nice. Thanks for the story, seriously. It's one of the better things I've read lately.

>>29831936
>>29832004
I think the difference is that when looking at shit on ffnet or archiveofourown there's such an enormous volume of pure shit that you can find some of the worst things written in the English language, but the sheer amount makes it hard for any to get traction and become popular. With MLP fiction there seems to be a unique phenomenon where shit stories get more visibility so legions of autists actually start liking some of these pieces of shit. It's really sad to see how so many people will suck the dick of pony authors who write hundreds of thousands of words of self-insert wankery.

I think FIMfiction would really benefit from a proper built in review system like ffnet. Shit stories get high ratings because so many idiots thumb it up when they go LOL XD, but if you could look at reviews and rate those you might be able to better judge a work. And being able to explain in detail why you think a story is shit might help some of the authors improve rather than wallow in their over-inflated egos.

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>>29832277
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/80457/picturesque might be 2deep4me; glancing over it I'm not sure whether it's sad or happy.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/198011/blessing might be too heavy on the "hurt", as the last sentence is decidedly downward despite Celestia being held by Luna at the time.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/287787/one-thousand-years

That seems to be about it for what I have; any good?

>>29832331
Oh, no doubt. And there are worse places than those. Try adultfanfiction.net or mediaminer.org.

In the early days of the Internet a lot of anime fanfiction got posted on personal webpages on places like Geocities, and a lot of that stuff was--hoo boy. A lot more was posted in a place called Usenet, in places like rec.arts.anime.creative which had some actual standards. I've even got a subscription to one of the old, old, old, oldschool email mailing list type fanfiction groups, though lately there's nothing on it but the monthly FAQ post plus horrible either-it's-trollfic-or-this-person-is-legit-retarded garbage from someone calling himself "Sailor Kawaii Neko Starlight" or some such weeb shit.

>>29832277
>>29832349
Thanks! Tears of a Goddess is damn well written, for all of its somewhat goofy premise--thousands of years in the future, Celestia gets Alzheimer's, then gets what appears to be the fastest case of tuberculosis on record and keels over dead with Luna crying over her, and goes to Pony Heaven to see Twilight Sparkle again. That makes it sound stupid but it got me in the feelz.

But then I'm in one of those moods.

I have a Sunbutt/Ponies on Earth hurt/comfort thing that's fallen into my mind from nowhere, with large completely written out scenes and long stretches of dialogue. It is melodramatic and overwrought and I am not sure anyone'd want to read it, not even me--but it's in my head and it wants out, dammit.

>>29832147
Well, that page was an experience. I'm still trying to figure what kind of person watches MLP and thinks, "you what this needs to be crossed over with? Tetris." Like, I can understand wanting to combine the characters from your other favorite work of fiction or whatever, but why do you care about ponies interacting with blocks?

>>29832389
That sounds hilariously awful. I'll have to expose myself to weeb fanfics at some point. Although I will contend that the worst fanfiction I've seen are those based on real people and celebrities. They're nothing but self-insert fics for wish fulfillment and even though they may not be as atrociously written as other fics it's so pathetic that the idea of someone actually sitting down and writing it is just sad. My favourite is a series of fics by a woman who was deeply religious so even though her insert was in a relationship with various attractive men he would have to sleep on the couch because no sex before marriage.

>>29832487
>celebrity fanfiction

I've heard of that. To me it sounds fucked-up and stalker-ish, so much so that I don't even want to read any of it, lest the authors' crazy seep into my own mind via TCP/IP.

>no premarital nookie for you, not even in a fantasy

That woman doesn't have issues, she's got a subscription.

>>29832428
>It is melodramatic and overwrought and I am not sure anyone'd want to read it
I am always interested in HiE/PiE, and also Sunbutt

>>29833230
Okay. Let me spoiler it so that the people not interested won't bitch so much.

1/2

I'm pretty sure this would fall under "darkfic."

Ponies on modern-day Earth via the "they made a magic portal and came to visit" plot device. Only it's not quite our world, though it's recognizable. The ponies, against the advice of their security consultants, want to construct a consulate in some American city--in an alternate universe USA that's collapsing into civil war. Oh, and magic works only poorly and sporadically here. Celestia herself comes to supervise, and spends a lot of time talking with a human IT specialist who is setting up connectivity for the building. They become friendly, and close enough that she asks him to call her "Tia." She leaves the consulate in a motorcade for a charity appearance, and the vehicle in which she is being transported is hit with a large and sophisticated IED. Her bodyguard is killed instantly and she is horribly maimed. IT guy, who was riding in another vehicle, is able to take charge of the survivors and get her to a nearby veterinary hospital. She is blind, in agony, delirious, and in shock, and he is the only one present who is able to calm her down and get her to cooperate and let the doctors prep her for surgery. He gets his own relatively minor wounds bandaged and ends up staying with her during her recovery--in a city where bombings and mortar attacks are daily occurrences. She has to stay there until she recovers enough to be able to cast the spells to return through the portal, where magic can repair of the damage the surgeons weren't able to.

There are elements of mystery. Was the IED a random act by one of scores of terrorist groups, or a deliberate attempt at assassination? There is some exploration of character. He's quiet and doesn't talk much, because he has PTSD from World War III, which in this timeline happened in 1991. The Soviets nuked his unit in West Germany.

yeah. It's that bad.

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>>29832487
>>29832532

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>>29833503
>an alternate universe USA that's collapsing into civil war
>alternate

>>29833503
2/2

Warning, severe autism ahead. You have been warned. It's spoilered and everything.

The human character, from whose viewpoint this is mostly told, is a pretty badly broken human being. He has nightmares and flashbacks. He rarely says a word. He's callous and angry and pessimistic. He quotes Spengler when asked for his opinion on the near future. His wife died when Islamic terrorists nuked Manhattan in '93. He has seen and been through some shit and says he's been on borrowed time since Wurzburg. He says he considers the ponies' contact with his world the first reason there has been for hope in a long time, and this is another reason the bombing pisses him off.

He is callous but not callous enough to be unaffected by seeing Celestia in her trailer in the motorcade, a perfect EFP frag pattern through the wall, her bodyguard vaporized, and she herself has multiple severe injuries--some of her intestines are hanging out--and is screaming shrilly "Mama, help me, it hurts."

After her surgery Luna finds him in the veterinary hospital's recovery area by her stall, sitting on a cheap plastic chair with a rifle across his knees, holding her hoof, looking like he's trying not to weep.

There are conversations with Sunbutt, after she regains consciousness. Mercifully, she doesn't remember much. She has a shell fragment in her head, pressing on the optic nerve, and might regain her sight if surgeons can remove it, but they are afraid of killing her--such surgery is occasionally done on humans but has never been done on a horse, and she isn't quite one. It might be fixable with magic in Equestria but she has to be able to cast the spells at the portal before she can return, and she's too weak to do that.

There is a second attack and he goes out to meet them, laughing and yelling "Aure entuluva, aure entuluva!" and dies protecting her. Luna later looks it up and throws the book across the room and starts crying when she understands.

>>29833575
When I said "dark," I meant it.

Muppetz is a lazy faggot

>>29833503
>>29833623
Why?

>>29833623
this is pretty gay lol

self-absorbed pity party garbage

>>29833649
That's a fair question.

I don't understand it myself. All of this, and a great deal more, with lots of fully fleshed out scenes, complete with extensive dialogue, just slid into my head from I don't even know where over the course of two days this past week.

Like I mentioned--this stuff is in my head, it demands that I write it, but I don't think most people are going to want to read it. I am not sure I'd want to either.

Blame it all on sleep deprivation and depression. It makes me creative like this--if "creative" is even the word I want. It makes me want to create things that are ugly and horrible, not pretty.

>>29833555
Well, that escalated quickly.

What would be a good name for a pony reporter? I just need it for a newspaper article. I've been thinking of possibilities, but they all sound horribly convoluted.

>>29834561
Just don't name him

>>29834561
Nosy News

>>29834827
Not the worst idea 2bh. The thing that so many fimfic authors forget is that everything that isn't central to the story should be left out. If a descriptor feels pointless it should go. If there's a character who the story never even interacts with, he probably doesn't need a name. So unless the article's author makes a recurrence or you come up with a name sufficiently clever, just drop it.

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>>29834827
I'm trying to be as realistic as possible while making this seem like a newspaper clipping.

>>29835039
The whole story is just reports, letters, and the like about an incident in the Summer Sun Celebration, which all serve as pieces of the overall puzzle.

I talked about it in late February, I believe, I just picked it up again.

>>29834858
Less than stellar, but still better than anything I could come up with. I'll put it on the maybe list.

>>29835039
Is there no room for worldbuilding, then? Maybe not long enormous tedious infodumps, but a skillful author can work a certain amount of information into the story's structure more or less unobtrusively.

>>29835731
I mean more that if something doesn't add to the story you want to tell, you should cut it out. Take The Grapes of Wrath for an example. The first like 15 pages are just pure description. There's no characterization or action or anything. That's okay because Steinbeck knew what he was trying to say. My advice to any writer is that, no matter how much you think you can get away without them, outlines will always make your writing better. No matter what. There may be a point in your story where you go off the rails and need to reevaluate where the story is headed, but at that point it'll be better again to go back an make a new outline and think about the future before you get there.

>>29835789
Well, that's also true, the Law of Conservation of Detail, and all that.

Still, here's some writer stuff, with some examples and explanations of graceful ways to dump info without making it obvious that you're dumping info:

http://www.ccfinlay.com/infodump.html

>>29835072
Look for journalism and newspaper jargon, you might find something.

>>29834561
Newsprint? Extra Extra? Fresh Ink? Printing Press? Juicy Scoop? Top Story? Front Page? Fit to Print? Newsworthy?

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>>29832480
huh. I didnt even notice that.

https://www.fanfiction.net/My-Little-Pony-and-Tetris-Crossovers/621/1897/

only 1500 words, so I gave it a shot. Should come as no big surprise, but it was pretty retarded.

And the readerbase on ffnet is not better than what we deal with on fimfiction

Anyone following this fic?
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/310656/across-the-universe
I think it's pretty good except for the update time

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>>29830009
>a memefic was trash
I'm utterly shocked.

>>29831936
>8:1 ratio
That's honestly not fantastic for Fimfic. Anything lower than around 15:1 and you know it's probably got something going on--whether its a shitty plot development or some jimmy rustling premise.

>>29832147
>Lion King (6)
>only one fic has more than 3k words and it's just "the Lion King but with ponies."
He could have at least brought in the litigons (offspring of a lion/tigon mating) and demons with .50 cal sniper rifles.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4058926

>>29833503
>constructing an embassy in a Somalimerica
For what purpose?

>motorcade hit by IED
Wouldn't the first few cars be the ones struck while the back ones (where all the VIPs would be at) would be fairly safe? Changing it to an RPG would make more sense.

>Soviets nuked
There wouldn't be a large American city to build an embassy in, certainly not one that would be a critical location in a civil war. Unless the Euro exchange was only tactical (and it's highly unlikely if things went nuclear there'd be any restraint), it would escalate into full thermonuclear war, debatably creating a nuclear winter for decades.

Pic related's all the US targets for the USSR. You'd have to pick a smaller town (like Marquette, MI or Bismark, ND) to set things in.

>>29833623
Sounds pretty meh. The effort it would take to worldbuild the post-WW3 setting is way more than is worth a "Celestia gets critically injured" hurt/comfort plot you could just have in Canterlot with a HiE thing if you absolutely must have a human character using one of her guards that's infatuated would be 50x better, though..

>>29834561
Headline News
Opinion Pages
Body Copy
Muckracker (my personal favorite)
Ink Quill
Bleed Lead
Hot Press
Fourth Estate

>>29835039
>isn't central to the story should be left out
I disagree with this for the most part. If you can't flesh out the setting, you can't really absorb the reader.

>>29836902
I like those names.
I'll use one of those.
Thanks.

>>29833503
>They become close enough that she asks him to call her "Tia"

Tia only means aunt in spanish, you know that?

>>29837384
yeah but the landscapers dont watch ponies, they eat them, so I'm not sure what relevance their backwards language has on the discussion.

>>29837384
In European Spanish, at least in 60s-70s era slang, "tia" was a euphemism for "prostitute." "Who's she?" "Uh, she's my auntie."

>>29839524
That's even worse

>>29836902
Hi. Sorry I didn't get back to you last night.

>WWIII backstory
There was an exchange of tactical nukes in Germany and Czechoslovakia and Poland, then the escalation is interrupted by revolts in Ukraine and other parts of the USSR, in which some of the non-Russian areas that had nukes available to them were able to use them. Russia and Ukraine nuked each other pretty badly, though it didn't result in a nuclear winter. A couple years later the Manhattan bombing took place and the US spent a decade spending itself into bankruptcy trying to occupy Iran, which may or may not have been the actual responsible party.

>purpose of embassy
Ponies, being incurable optimists and compulsive do-gooders, want to help (maybe they remember Megan? wrong continuity, sorry). Getting ponies back through the portal in coffins is starting to put a damper on their enthusiasm, as is the news that they're about to get back a Princess in several Tupperware bowls, some assembly required, some parts missing. Well, not that bad (a plot point is Luna saying that her sister is tough and has had worse in the past, though it's been a few centuries), but still.

>better without human viewpoint character
That's probably right too, yet that's how the story came into my head.

>meh
You are right. I know it's shit. >>29833658 is absolutely right. But it's in my head screaming for release. I will probably end up writing it and deleting it.

I can't even offer excuses for why I want to write it. Explanations, maybe. I'm depressed as fuck, and this is one way I deal with it. I am depressed as fuck because a good friend of mine is dying of cancer and probably won't live out the year. I'm absolutely helpless to do anything about it and there's nothing at all I can do for him or his wife. Reading and writing stories about innocents suffering helps scratch some of the itches, if that makes sense. It may not be healthy but it's cheaper than going to a shrink.

>>29839652
>I can't even offer excuses for why I want to write it
Then write it and don't worry about it. The whole point of writing is for enjoyment and if it helps you mentally then there's no need to justify it to yourself. It doesn't sound like something a lot of other people would actually be interested in reading, but writing something that you know only you will enjoy is totally fine.

Or you could post it anyway. The popular stories on Fimfiction shows that no matter how bad something may be there will be an audience for it somehow.

Just when I plan to start narrating again, my internet decides to go out fit the majority of the day. Fuck, it's still out even.

>>29839652
>and deleting it
Don't be a pussy. You can at least toss it up on a throwaway account if you're really that worried about your """reputation""" on good old horsewords dot com.

>>29839927
This is a good post.

>>29839927
Thanks.
>>29840172
It's not even reputation. It's more along the lines of what I want to create versus what I should want to create. I want to write comedy, happy stories, romances. I want people to enjoy what I write. I want it to make them feel good, not sad. Even the best written tragedy is--but maybe this is me trying to tell readers what they should want.

>>29839927
>if it helps you mentally
Pretty sure he wasn't saying that. Does scratching an itch always make it feel better?

>>29840672
I get what you're saying, but you shouldn't worry about what you think your readers want. I'm not tempted to write tragedy because I'm not a fan of sad stuff, but just remember that you're not forcing anyone to read your work. If people see a story tagged "Sad" they'll skip it if that's not what they want, but some people like feeling sad from stories so they can choose to read those stories if they want. Unless you go full Clockwork Orange and force people to read your My Little Pony fanfiction then you shouldn't worry about what you put out there.

>>29840723
>I'm depressed as fuck, and this is one way I deal with it
I think he meant it mentally. Sometimes you just get fucked in the head and need something to preoccupy you or writing to vent emotions you're struggling with.

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>>29836902
That map is garbage and has been debunked so goddamn many times. I swear it's like God gave us OPpenheimer just so idiots could ignore him.

>>29840855
hmm. Is that a counterforce or countervalue map? There are nuclear attacks and nuclear attacks.

I seem to recall reading some declassified stuff from the 50s in which it was assumed that in the event of a nuclear war--well, back when it involved loading the bombs onto aircraft and sending them out into the teeth of the other side's air defenses and hoping enough got through to make the attack effective enough that you'd still have the advantage after their retaliatory strike got through--the Soviets' primary target was Washington and the secondary targets were the capital cities of the 48 contiguous states. They expected a Soviet nuclear attack, back then, to be an attempted decapitation strike that would try to disrupt as much of the military command-control-communications-intelligence infrastructure as possible, and the second wave of Russian planes coming over the pole would be carrying paratroopers, not nuclear weapons.

>>29840958
That's in the event of Soviet first strike. I should have specified. In a retaliatory strike who knows? It depends on the damage sustained and the number of warheads remaining.

If the Soviets were left an element of C&C or some form of leadership, it's possible they would spare DC to try and negotiate. If there's nothing left to prevent the retaliation from going on autopilot, then the USA gets hit based on industry, POL primarily.

It's also really important to remember that nuclear politics and planning were not static during the Cold War. When Limited Exchange entered the vocabulary, MAD was on its way out, in favor of NUTS. So if you look at nuclear holocaust ca. 1960, what you see is pretty much the entire Soviet population as well as their nuclear C&C and the weapons themselves being annihilated, in a constantly escalating series of strikes, lasting hours or days. By 1970, however, missiles were in vogue, with MIRVs entering service, and the Soviets have caught up in numbers of warheads, so it's a much more tenuous situation, because both sides are hovering at over 20000 warheads apiece. This means the first strike is entirely carried out by ICBMs and a secondary strike is carried out by bombers shortly thereafter. Any followup strikes would be aircraft delivered too. Submarines would factor in almost at random, depending on where they are at the time of the attacks. The 80s saw technology replace raw numbers, as more disarmament and non-proliferation treaties were signed, and Detente was in full swing.

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/nukevault/ebb538-Cold-War-Nuclear-Target-List-Declassified-First-Ever/

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>>29841029
Ooops, I meant Russian first strike. The map is current.

>>29841029
I know that at the time a closely held secret--well, I am guessing it still is--pertaining to nuclear force readiness was warhead maintenance.

A nuclear warhead isn't like a mortar shell or a grenade that you can put in a crate and stick in a bunker on a military base for fifty years and then get it back out and dust it off and expect it to work.

The radiation from the plutonium cores strips electrons away from atoms in nearby materials, changing chemistry radically. Things happen that the textbooks say shouldn't, like solid gold seals oxidizing and corroding. The firing circuitry deteriorates. The high explosive lenses that are intended to collapse the core, manufactured though they might be of the most stable explosives available, oxidize, rot, break down, and crumble away under the continuous bombardment.

Keeping tens of thousands of warheads assembled, "hot," and ready to do RIGHT NOW if the order comes down is a non-trivial undertaking. Electronics techs who don't mind taking a few rads have to test them constantly, and armorers likewise need to be trained to take a look at the condition of the explosive charges in proximity to the core and check them for breakdown--and hope they haven't broken down in a way that makes them unstable, causing them to go BANG when disturbed.

Of course, you can always disassemble the warheads, and keep the cores and such separate--but that means delays before you can use them, maybe giving your opponent the opportunity to launch a first strike against you and take out all your ICBM silos and air bases before they can assemble the warheads to retaliate. And what if the other side's spies (there are ALWAYS spies) report that you've suddenly given orders to all your elite bomb-putter-togetherers to start assembling live warheads? How will the other side react?

I still don't know how they did it, or do it, on submarines, either.

>>29840748
>If people see a story tagged "Sad" they'll skip it if that's not what they want, but some people like feeling sad from stories so they can choose to read those stories if they want.
Yes, that definitely does sound like how human beings work.

are dong guns and battle saddles so played out that we're back to discussing nukes now?

>>29839652
What the fuck is this even

This doesn't make any fucking sense at all on the military level, not to mention the plot level.

>>29841378
Don't worry, if I know these threads, we'll circle back to nuclear dongs and radioactive vaginas in just ~50 posts.

>>29839977
Just make a bunch of narrations and start uploading them once you have stable internet again.

>>29841378
>I remember when they used to talk about tanks...