Why does Equestria Girls make like every mistake possible? Why

>>29755264
You can just as easily say with all the recent mistakes the FiM staff are making and the pony centric deviantart cringe that has existed since day one. Do you really want to go down that rabbit hole?

>>29755264
I like it just to make you mad

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>>29755264
EG made "mistakes" in the first movie because they thought they were only gonna make one so they bullshitted a bunch of stuff because they thought it was temporary and didn't need any world building.

It was when Hasbro told them they were gonna be making more that they got their shit together. They had to improvise a lot of stuff to cover mistakes from the first. Every EG since the first has been pretty decent imo, and the only "mistakes" they make are things Hasbro forces them to do.
But due to its initial shittiness, it can only get better and that's what we've seen. EG overall is getting better as all the heart and passion left the show with Ishi and Daniel Ingram. Ingram still makes songs for FiM but his EG ones are much better.
FiM is dying and is making real mistakes while EG is only improving and testing out new things.
EG is the future whether you like it or not.

>>29755474
Why is Spike a dog?

>>29755488
It is a representation of how he gets treated by the mane cast in the show.

I'm sure if they knew they were going to be making more than just the initial one, they would have made him human.

Then again, his relationship to Twilight is a weird relationship. She's kind of a mom to him and that would be weird if they had to have Scitwi have a son to take care of while she is still a teen.

Overall, at the time, and in hindsight, it would have been to confusing, awkward and troublesome to have him be human and a dog makes the most sense.

>>29755488
Hasbro might've thought the target audience would find him cuter that way.
Perhaps they wanted to avoid having to ascribe a human age to Spike, who's considered a "baby dragon" in Equestria but isn't actually a *baby* baby. Maybe they wanted to avoid the obstacles that would arise with Twilight trying to bring a kid into high school, assuming Spike wouldn't have been made into a freshman like the CMC.

>>29755506
He should be a human and you're just trying to rationalize a shit idea from a franchise that was nothing but mistakes.

>>29755508
Meghan was retarded when she wrote it.

>>29755508
I should also add that, if Spike were made a kid and couldn't just wander around the high school with Twilight, she wouldn't have been able to bounce her thoughts, findings, and research in the library off of him as she explored the school.

>>29755524
Why? It's not like any of the other shit followed typical rules about being in school. She was just accepted without being known by anyone or enrolled in the school.

Belief was already suspended, why bother with realism then?

>>29755533
It's just the way they wanted to tell the story, I guess.

>>29755510
Imagine how awkward that would be for Twilight to have to drag around a kid in the first movie and have to explain that he is her brother or something. It would have added such a strange and awkward element to the movie for them to deal with and it made much more sense for him to assume the role of a dog. He's treated like that anyway.
And imagine how much darker that final scene where Snips and Snails kidnap Spike and Sunset seems like she is gonna hurt him if he were a human. That would have felt much darker than it did.

Overall, it would just have been really awkward and strange to have him be human. He is a minor character and he held a position to fit that.

>>29755545
It was poorly told, then.

>>29755549
But he's much more like a kid than a dog even in the pony world. And being darker would have actually been cooler.

Honestly, got to admit that I really don't like or "get" EqG. I tried. I watched the first three movies and LoE was legitimately one of the worst movies I've seen. The fourth looked even worse. I really wish that they hadn't put the whole humanized MLP thing in HIGH SCHOOL.

>>29755555
Waste
>LoE was legitimately one of the worst movies I've seen. The fourth looked even worse.
LoE was the fourth one.

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Hang on a minute, I'm noticing a pattern with the villians.
>Sunset Shimmer; turns into a horrid she demon with a FIRE motif.
>The Sirens; beings based off of mythological creatures from the WATERs of the ocean.
>Sci Twi/ Midnight Sparkle; after gathering magic, managed to manipulate the AETHERial forces.
>Gloriosa Daisy; Used the powers from rocks to manipulate plants, could be seen as a protector of the EARTH.

Next villain is going to have some connection to air. You heard it here first.

>>29755568
I watched the Friendship Games one, and it was garbage. I didn't see LoE because it looked even worse. My bad.

I'm fine with humanized ponies, I just wish they weren't in fucking high school and doing every single generic stock high school plot.

>>29755555
Checked.
Nice get.

Like I said, they made a lot of decisions that would have been different had they known from the beginning that they were gonna make a whole series. If they knew this when writing the first movie, they probably would have changed a lot. It probably wouldn't have been in a HS, maybe a college instead. Spike wouldn't have been a kid, they would have expanded on Sunset's backstory a bit more, expanded on the world a bit more and a bunch more stuff.

For what they were given, they've done a pretty good job salvaging the disaster that was EG1.

But it isn't for everyone. You either like it or you don't. At least you gave each movie a watch though. I guess it just isn't for you.

Kek bless you.

>>29755569
No.
Just no.

>>29755588
Why not?

>>29755599
Just sounds kinda dumb.

>>29755609
It is, but it's an interesting pattern none the less.

>>29755582
I just feel like the time spent on this could have been spent doing something else with the franchise that is way better.

>>29755582
I wish Kek would make it so this doesn't clog up the board though.

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>>29755618
Like I said. They thought Generation 4 was ending at the end of season 3 and EG 1. They didn't know they were gonna take it further.
Many people enjoy it as it's gotten very popular. Making more EG movies was one of the best decisions Hasbro has made in a while. It it still growing quickly in popularity and lots of people enjoy it. They couldn't really have taken a better route. Making the ponies into humans has allowed for them to gain audiences that were turned away from the franchise because it was solely ponies. EG has let Hasbro start something they can take much further if executed correctly. They can appeal to weaboos and boys along with little girls since it's not ponies.
They put it into a high school setting because initially, they wanted to just pander to the audience and do a relatable setting, school.
While you may think they could have taken the franchise in a "better" route, EG was one of the best routes they could have taken despite your opinion.
There really isn't another route that would allow them to reach a larger audience and build up from an almost brand new world.

>>29755720
What about Guardians of Harmony toys, making it completely gender neutral? That seems to be more of their attempt to expand the audience at least in the West.

EqG is stereotyped as being a South American thing, but the reality is that MLP wasn't popular there and EqG made it popular. In the US, Guardians of Harmony toys are more groundbreaking. But I guess having both is cool.

>>29755736
Guardians of Harmony won't get popular with boys because it is still ponies and little boys won't touch it because of that. It won't appeal to girls either because girls aren't a fan of the more fighting type of stuff. It's only popular with the adult fans.

EG has more potential since it is humans so it doesn't have ponies keeping it from being liked by boys. If they do it right and market it right, it can be popular with a very large range of people. GoH is already limited because it is ponies.

>>29755769
Little girls want fighting ponies too, and little boys don't care if they're ponies. Plus the movie has more than ponies.

I don't know why you're acting like GoH and EqG have to fight. They're both expanding the market for MLP and by quite a bit.

>>29755569
Glimmer was the villain element of shit

>>29755609
>classic elementalism themes
>dumb
You nigger. This is something that could actually make me respect the way EqG was handled.

>>29755938
There is a 0.0% chance that it was planned that way.

>>29755939
unlike you, somethings are happy accidents

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>>29755939
I know. Derpy wasn't planned, either.

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>>29755949
Savage

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I completely agree that the staff didn't know how to handle eqg1, because they were given a mandate to sell ugly dolls with a one shot tv special. I'd assume a lot of the original staff didn't like the idea, and were even against it. Couple that with how, at the time, the staff were going through a huge transition from the "Faust era," and Hasbro not sure what the fuck they were doing, and you get eqg1.

As a tv movie, it was going to be plagued with mistakes from the start. It's just too hard to squeeze a world and characters that had 65 episodes worth of development into 60 minutes.

Egq would have been much different if it started off as, let's say, a 13 episode season. That would have given them more room and time to develop and tell the story.

It's going to be really interesting to see how they handle the 3 "pilot" episodes this summer.

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>>29755409
>pulls the lever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OyAuYvijPo

>Do you really want to go down that rabbit hole?
We're not just going down the rabbit hole. We're blasting through hell, and coming back alive.

It's been 7 years and our background pony roster hasn't expanded beyond the ones from season 1, as shown in Slice of Life.

And for some reason the fandom's same exact boring ideas kept persisting for 7 years.
That's because any quality and creativity the fandom ever had has left together with season 1.

Vinyl Scratch/Octavia is still a horrible pairing that drags the both of them down.
Octavia is a boring stuck-up british idiot.
Vinyl lost all her/his cool traits and became either an obnoxious mental retard or a mute retard.
Derpy is still a lovable retard.
Dr Hooves is literally Dr Who.
Lyra is obsessed with human hands (despite the original joke was that she was sitting on a bench in a human pose)
BonBon is gay, stupid and useless and would be nothing if she wasn't paired with Lyra.
Carrot Top is dead.

And after 7 fucking years these retarded ideas still persist throughout video games, fanfictions, images, media and especially the official 100th episode Slice of Life.

The rest of the background ponies like Lightning Bolt and the other 345 were no longer explored.

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>>29756728
The fandom's lazyness and idiocy really started showing off in the first hiatus of season 1.

KP Shadowsquirrel was the last person to create 3D SFM pony models, which looked horrible compared to his Renamon, other 3d models and his expressive 2D art.
Everyone rolled with those SFM like they were any good. Nobody ever bothered to stop using them or commisision new 3D pony models for Source Filmmaker

Summer has striken with a bunch of newtards thinking their voice acting and flash animation is worth even 2 cents. Epic Pie Time was one of the first, in my opinion.. disgusting. But now let's look back at better times.
Spring of 2011 was full of creativity. Crossover parodies used to be well synced and entertaining such as Pinkie and the Brain, Ponycraft 2, The hangover, Weird Al and many videos about intros, trailers, music videos.

But things didn't last as more and more newtards began showing up and between one of them just so happened to be a young impressionable executive at Hasbro Studios going by the name Mike Vogel. He thought that the cartoon show was more about the fandom's cringeworthy parodies from the summer rather than the cartoon show.
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He then made Faust and Rob Renzetti quit and took over the show. He created episodes like Return of Harmony, Lesson Zero, Luna Eclipsed and every single episode, really. The show became a contradicting rabid animal without identity. A show which tried to be equally normal and a parody. Something not even Animaniacs or Freakazoid could achieve. Making the show a parody of itself is like inverting Pinkie and the Brain's roles or turning everyone into an overly dramatic, overly emotional, autistic wreck without an intelligent thought to be had.
)

Let's not forget the charity donations which immediately started after 2012 when the fanbase was being called out for being the most hypocritical criminals, the scum of the world.

>>29756880
The idiocy of the brony has led them to give out gratitious amount of cash to completely inane things like a brony documentary, fake conventions and countless unknown charities.

While the fandom's own members, especially our contributing artists were starving and ended up homeless and dead, like CSI Madmax.

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>>29756890
Desktop ponies - who the hell gets so angry and toxic over some eight year old kid copying some dekstop ponies animations for his own OCs? or worse, he gets criticized for not being perfectly in-line with the garbage 8-bit desktop ponies.

The artists which made the 8-bit ponies would also refuse commisions and to take the hint that they should add jumping, running, attack, crouch animations because desktop ponies often got used in video games like Luna's Game and

For some reason everyone involved with the creation of game projects would get incredibly secretive of their shit assets and ideas. Always forgetting or outright refusing to release the source code and full documentations.
"Nonoo donut steel my ideas. Which would get me sued anyway if Hasbro found out"

This irressponsible and anti-social attitude is what made 89% of projects fail so badly.

>>29756728
>It's been 7 years and our background pony roster hasn't expanded beyond the ones from season 1, as shown in Slice of Life

I can't tell you how wrong you are. We've gotten quite a bunch of new backgrounders to play around with. Secretary pony from Coco's episode, the grumpy stand pony in the Daring Do con and Las Pegasus (along with all the Las Pegasus tourist backgrounders), Coloratura's backup dancers, all the new crystal pony models from the S6 premiere just to name a few.

>>29756948
Why didn't they appear in Slice of Life then?

>>29756980
Slice of Life had quite a few unique backgrounders in the actual background. Even had little funny tidbits like the Lebowski ponies missing Donnie at the wedding with one of them holding a coffee tin.

Slice of Life just focused on the most popular of them.

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>>29756933
It was better when the fandom and FIMfiction site had an anti human policy.
/mlp/ instead somewhere from 2012 made an Anon In Equestria greentext general, one of the oldest generals on /mlp/ next to the MLPG on /co/. After 2013's Faust visit, the newfags spamming the report button and "Scruffy" finally making the board blue..(which it always was, it's just that nobody respected the no porn rule) For some reason the fetish and one-shot ideas only got stronger like batponies, mothponies, planes, quest generals. The show discussion and other thread slowly died off because they constantly get sent to page 3 or 5 because of 10 idiots bumping the generals.

MLP is now 50% generals and the other 50% shitposting with Nyx or anything similar to I want to cum inside Rainbow Dash. /mlp/ became /anon/ because of all the anon self insert greentexts, so much he started getting his own fan art and own comic book.

>>29755474
EG has only gone downhill since Rainbow Rocks, mate.

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>>29757037
The video game part of the fandom. I haven't seen 1 game done in a professional manner in this fandom.
I actually haven't seen 1 good game made with a custom engine, with original ideas, creativity and good design elements.

One of the oldest ambitious games were MLP Online started by Urimas and Fiends From Dream Valley started by the guy behind Derpynet.
They failed because all the members in it have 0 game design skills and 0 programming skills.
They actually thought they could make a 20 levels adventure platformer in Flash. Or Urimas thought he could make an online game without knowing the first thing about netcode.

Even now you see dumb teens trying to start video game projects when before MLP they had zero interest in it , never made a game and never enjoyed playing video games in the first place.

Instead of respecting the show and believing it deserves better. They instead turn any MLP animation or game into a learning canvas where they throw shit and see what sticks. MLP apparently is considered babby's first everything and everyone feels the need to hit on it despite having no previous experience in content creation.

>>29755488
Because it's a cartoon. Because he's a different species. Because Meghan isn't exactly the best writer that's worked on the franchise.

Doesn't matter what reasons you get though judging by the responses to the other replies you'll dismiss anything any way. You don't want reasoning, you want validation for disliking something. Well congratulations for disliking something.

>>29756728
Most of the shit you've been sitting here complaining about has to do with fandom-related nonsense and I never really cared for the fandom stuff, but you are objectively wrong in the case of no expansion happening with background characters. As the other reply mentioned, ever since season 4 there have been several episodes that new or different background characters have showed up. Not that it even matters since they're background characters and play little to no significance in the show except in the ONE(1) episode literally about background characters.

>He then made Faust and Rob Renzetti quit and took over the show.
Source for this claim? Which I've seen posted here before and would wager was posted by you at least a few of those times as well. Sounds like you're just spreading disinformation.

>The show became [...] without identity
I disagree. Season 1 was played exceptionally safe to the point its "identity" could be described as a generic children's show that teaches morals. What was the theme of it back then? Friendship? So basically any other kids show. Season 2 started offering some variation on the formula by having a stronger emphasis on adventure, but the show's themes really started to show going from season 4 onward thanks to some actual tangible continuity between episodes. It stopped being a generic children's episodic friendship show and started actually exploring concepts and the world at large and actually doing something with all of this stuff that was just sitting around in the early seasons.

>>29757123
The biggest problem people have had however was brought on specifically because they started utilizing all these things they never really touched on in the early seasons. So, we bring it right back to fandom-related shit again because suddenly this show that was once a rich tapestry of unexplored lore and ideas that the fans filled in the blanks for and came up with fanon and theories to explain, suddenly this show started exploring these things and explaining them. Something a lot of people wanted from the start.

But the problem came that it was different from their expectations. It went against their ideas of how these things should have been explained or how the world should have been explored. Things like Daring Do being a real character, or alicorns can be made from a mundane being, or how modern some of the cities in the world are and how much technology there generally is. These things went against what the fans wanted or expected.

But the point is they actually had focus to explore these things. And people didn't like it. The fans (MLP fans at least) don't really want a focused series despite what they may claim. As is evident by how upset you are the fans have specific established fanon or ideas you disagree with, most fans just want that blank slate back. They want a bland show that "has potential" back.

>>29757037
>>29757060
I am curious what these Star VS screencaps have to do with MLP.

EqG just broke what I wanted from the franchise so much I cannot be arsed to care about it.

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>>29757037
>>29757060
>those screencaps
Wow, /co/ really hates Star VS, huh? I've never watched it before, but I was thinking of giving it a try. Is it really that bad, or is /co/ just shitting on it for fun?

>>29758161
This was before it came out. Then they liked it for a bit. Now they hate it again.

>>29755474
From what I heard, it was the writers who wanted to make RR and FG, and Hasbro gave them the money to do it.

You're right that the first one was pretty much made by corporate, though. It shows in how trite and uninteresting the first movie is.

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>>29757123
>I disagree. Season 1 was played exceptionally safe to the point its "identity" could be described as a generic children's show that teaches morals. What was the theme of it back then? Friendship? So basically any other kids show. Season 2 started offering some variation on the formula by having a stronger emphasis on adventure, but the show's themes really started to show going from season 4 onward thanks to some actual tangible continuity between episodes. It stopped being a generic children's episodic friendship show and started actually exploring concepts and the world at large and actually doing something with all of this stuff that was just sitting around in the early seasons.

Duck and cover, duck and cover! He's too much in denial! It's overloading the system, everything will blow up!!

>>29757168
It went against quality and decent human sense, mate. All the executions were autistic or effortless.

>>29758161
It's pretty good, but honestly just ignore the fandom as its almost nothing but ship faggotry.