Fucking disgusting equestriadaily.com/2017/03/duo-cart ooni

>>29721998
>we have arrived to a point in which it makes us miserable, and that is the queue to leave
How do I learn this power? To get off the ride?

>>29721998
Is this, mayhaps, the sign that the ride truly is ending soon?

>>29722023
It is not.

>>29722009
They're going FNAF animations

>>29721998
I think most talented people who leave the fandom have fallen into the trap that they have to do pony, and pony alone, which we never expected from them, but they always do, and always leave burned out.
They have no one to blame but themselves, really.
Also what do they mean by "aside of extremely sparingly"?

>>29722077
>>29722009
They're already employed with Disney and it's hard to do it as a hobby now. That's the real reason

>>29722054
You're just joking, right?

>>29722077
Oh please, pony is the only reason people are watching them for.

>>29722082
Well they have to latch on something else

>>29721998
I see them writing a lot of words but they don't give any explanation.

Work vs cash equation didn't work out for them?
It's usually the reason even though some spin makes it appear otherwise.

>>29722113
They are just tired of doing pony, man - it's reasonable.

>>29721998
It always sucks when well known fan artist/Musicians leave their respective fanbase, But it's just the way things go, People get tired of working on the same thing after awhile, and need to move on to greener Pastures. Still sucks MASSIVELY tho.

I smell a C&D

If you care enough, download their animations NOW, before like every other person leaving the fandom they delete everything.

>>29722080
I feel like they would say "we don't have time for it anymore" instead of "it's making us miserable".

>>29722009
No mere mortal has ever known it. It could kill you

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>>29721998
AHAHA The Last Dislestia artists are DEAD!!!

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>>29721998
Dammit.
Why does this keep happening?

>>29722054
My bet is on Undertale or Zootopia or other furry shit.

>>29722189
The ride is breaking down, the engineers no longer care enough to keep it in shape.

>>29722077
yeah i wish people would take a break instead of leaving the fandom
we all understand people need to take breaks

>>29722197
I'm an engineer, can confirm we have no fucking clue what to do about this.

my game is still 2 years down the line at the very least :/

>>29722200
Full house confirms

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>>29722080
More like their offer for job was rejected becasue their possible employer saw their MLP shit and seen it as cringe.

I can't blame them. We are basically a glorified Sonic fanbase and nothing more than a furry branch of the internet.

>>29722189
We need new blood, ones to replace those who grow tired.
But, who will take their place? Who will take the reins and make good content?

>>29722197
The Movie is basically the last chance for this fandom to recover or S8 is the last one.

They'll come back soon enough, they'll all comeback.

>>29722188
Pretty sure we still have Stepandy.

>>29722219
Problem with it is that newcomers are too scared of the episode count and the fact that they need to watch over 120 episodes to understand Alicorns, Flurry, Discord etc.

Equestria Girls is much popular now because the mexicans and brasilians only needed to watch 3 movies.

>patreons on EQD says that the real reason is that the pony fancontent is catalogued cringe for everyone in the patreons comment section

This is actually true?

>>29722230
Stepandy is just a joke. No longer even care if Dislestia would become canon or not. Celestia was always just her self insertion, not some character that she cared about.

>>29721998
WHAT

HOW DO I LEARN THIS MAGIC TO EXIT THE RIDE?

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>>29722217
But Sonic fans got hired for doing fan games.

Others started a potential new franchise.

>>29722217
That's retarded, it's not some vore fanart, it's a long animation. Nobody will dismiss it because "cringe".

>>29722239
>newcomers are too scared of the episode count
I doubt that.
I find a major factor why most people joined this fandom is because of the people and content in it, not the shortness of the episode list.
We need more people to show themselves and content to restart this.

>>29722256
When they search for pony they rpobably saw more porn and fetish shit than actual content. I'm in this fandom for 5 years now and even i know that looking up for MLP outisde of the tv show is really cancerous.
MLP is bath tub filled with water. that after 7 seasons is full of dirt and stinks like shit. It's time to pull out the plug.

>>29722269
Meghan and Vogel try it with a Movie but it might be too late to save the popularity of the show. McCarthy tries to make a second miracle with LPS or Hanazuki because she know the pony ride won't llast more than one or two seasons if the movie fails.

>An independent group of animators announces they'll be putting together a big, ambitious animation
>Frame by frame, hand drawn, no rigs or puppets
>Not just a one or two minute thing. A full-blown project
>Art appears to be on a multi-million dollar budget. Not going to be cheaply replicated by anyone. Tweeners alone will cost thousands.

>"Uh, hey guys, this project is actually stressful and terrible and we're abandoning it."

I'm not sure how anyone didn't see this coming from miles and miles away. I mean it looked amazing but even if you had cursory knowledge of the animation industry it should have been clear they'd never finish this thing.

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>Duo Cartoonist, known for Children of the Night and The Moon Rises

>>29722077
The real trap is that once you're horse famous, you think your work is good enough to stand on its own. As if you can do non-pony related content and still be popular.

Sure they're talented, but there's lots of talented people out there. What made them stand out was performing within a specific niche.

>>29722225
>looking for salvation via Hasbro
you already lost, son.

>>29722147
Alex S. and Omni did indeed delete their pony stuff, but Tombstone is the one who's made it the biggest of them all and he never bothered deleting any of his old stuff.

>>29722316
It's worse than that. It's that all the platforms that'll promote your work focus on promoting IP individuals don't own. Youtube "recommends" video based on shit you've already seen, so it'll recommend pony stuff to pony fans. If they make original content, that's zero recommendations. Youtube will let them sink. To get noticed, they'd have to spend thousands on advertising.

Facebook is a little better, but it's similar, and they don't have a revenue sharing program yet.

Other video hosting sites are underpopulated and don't matter much.

So you've got to be talented and exploiting a brand people are already looking for, and then you need to get promoted for exploiting that brand. You remember that thread about all those bootleg Equestria Girls cartoons on Youtube? Those channels are making a fortune, and this is why. If Duo Cartoonist wants to make real cartoons, they'll never get naturally promoted. If they wanted to make cartoons of other people's IP and be really professional about it, they're fishing for a C&D. Online animation is a really shitty place these days.

>>29721998
Good. One less reason for autists to hag around. Maybe this will help nail the coffin shut on Equestria Daily.

>>29722113
It's simple. They would rather expend their creative energies on things they want to do, rather than things other people want them to do.

Are they getting off the ride because of the current political climate? Because they're butt-hurt that Shillary lost? Oh man, that would be the BEST Trump Bump EVER!

>>29722387
>H-hey guys! Y-you want to talk about my p-political opi-opinions?
>I've... I've been practicing a lot with. With. With /pol/, and he says I've gotten really good.

I was never hyped for that project. SOmehow i knew that it wasn't going to be finished. Still it feels bad to see them go. I have never been really active on the fandom beyond doing some fan art and posting funnies on a facebook page a couple years ago.

I love the show deeply, almost as much as i love anime.

I think the show will have at least 10 seasons. The fandom might slowly fade, but a lot of fans will still watch it and buy merchandise.

Hell I only started to buy MLP figures recently.

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>>29722537
The ride is finally ending

The talent is pursuing actual careers and is leaving us behind

Sooner or later there will be no talent left, except maybe the writefags

It's been good while it lasted, everypony

>>29722537

>MLP is cringe, we leave the fandom

good riddance.

This same scenario will happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHwO77C66Ds

Time to download all their pony project

Fuckin hell why would you waste all the time poured into this just to stop it at the drop of a hat?

>>29722642
Read >>29722537
And their patreon. Apparently people who run the animation industry see pony fan art and animation as "Cringey" SO they basically ignore the pony stuff altogether.

>Artist that made nyx content fucked off

Good riddance.

>>29722672
So what, if the guys who make MLP:FIM try to go on towards other shows they'll be rejected because it's "cringy"? What kind of backwards logic is that, animation is animation.

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>>29721998
I seriously don't even care that this keeps happening. It's become too common for any of it to matter anymore.

To me, the fandom is already dead, and any new fan content from here on out are just nice little bonuses on borrowed time.

>>29722537
Why the fuck didn't they publish their horse videos anonymously then? They've shown their faces and I'm pretty sure they've shared their names, and now their reputation as animators is tainted. Bravo.

A shame, but every artist is free to choose what to create

Thanks for your animations, duo, and good luck

>>29722692
You're not wrong, But the people with the "Connections" see this fanbase as a big joke and not in their best interest. so they look for people who use DC or Mahvel characters or anything they see as "Normal".

>>29722692
There are barneyfags in the industry

>>29722729
The industry isn't really shutting them out because of pony videos. Pikapetey did a bunch of pony stuff and got a job just fine. It sounds like THEY feel like pony has gotten really cringey, and they're tired of having people show up to say, "Wow, cringe!"

And they are wrong for not being able to carry themselves with pride and have fun while doing pony. It should never be taken that seriously. But they aren't wrong for thinking that pony is the new Sonic fandom. It used to be a cool thing, but half a decade later and it's been mismanaged to turn into a mediocre show for little girls.

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>>29722803
For starters, this fandom has a poor reputation. It sounds reasonable that a particular employer may have been less accepting of MLP and its fandom than your employer is.

>>29722537
Where is this?

>>29722869
EQD

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>https://www.patreon.com/duocartoonist
>https://www.patreon.com/posts/important-news-8522407
>MLP related things in the header, the patreon gift for 5$ and more
>almost everything in the patreon is pony related
>they will delete everything and replace with those dragon in pic related, FNAF and maybe steven universe

They have 200 patrons and 837 $ monthly.

Time to predict how many bronies will leave them

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ANOTHER BLOW TO THE FAILING FANDOM
I WISH THEM LUCK AS WE BECOME DUST

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>>29722895
WELCOME MY SON
WELCOME TO THE MACHINE.

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>fandom is dying

Apperently they are not.

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I'm so used to people stopping making pony content I don't cry on the outside anymore.

...I just cry deep down inside.

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>>29721998
No worries guys. They are still coming to BABS for a good time. These two work for Disney and shit so you know how deadlines can be for an animator. Disney always is working on something big.

Choices might be on indefinite hiatus but we are used to it by now when it comes to fan animators. At least they released some good pre-content so we aren't left empty handed.

We got S7 coming next month and the ride will keep going.

>>29723179

>Choices might be on indefinite hiatus but we are used to it by now when it comes to fan animators

Read the thread, they will leave the fandom and everything pony related.

Patrons of EQD already reveal that the real reason is that MLP is cringy for the professionals

>>29723203
What a shame. This is not what they told me last I talked to them.

But at least we weren't left empty handed.

>>29723203
>>29723237
Keep in mind this is people in the ED comments section saying this, unverifiable people, so maybe we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

>>29723293
Its the retarded sudaca posting that. He's only capable of smearing shit on this board and parroting what other people say. I don't think he's ever had an original thought.
>>29723203
Sit on a banana you hairy monkey

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>>29723237
>>29723293

Patron reporting

>>29722256
Idiots will. Apparently those are the people making the rules now.

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FlamingoRich 2.0

>>29723384
>FlamingoRich

Don't remind me of him but at least they survived a lot longer than he did. He only did one pony "movie" and a couple of content on his DA then left people hangin'.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;

>>29723405
What the hell has he been up to anyway? Last I heard he went to make true fail and hasn't been heard of since.

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>>29723384
Why not take time to produce some non-MLP content to demonstrate their abilities to those who dislike pony, then continue their fandom work? If they allow potential employers to force them not to create for things they love, aren't they enabling the double standard they talk about here?

MLP-focused content creators have been locked out of other communities by the "stop liking what I don't like" crowd for too long already. There are a few animators like Piemations and Fluttershythekind who are able to branch out without renouncing their fandom ties, but It's going to take several people with both talent and initiative to affect any larger change. I believe Duo Cartoonist could do it, but first they'll have to make up their minds to prove how good they are instead of being scared off by the hasty judgments of a vocal minority.

Anyone who knows this community knows we can make big things happen if we just stick to our goals for long enough. Being afraid of what strangers will think isn't the way to move forward.

>>29723536
Piemations didn't start out with ponies so he doesnt get associated as a full MLP fag, same with hot diggitydemon.

The problem is if all you're known for originally is horses, then good fucking luck.

>>29721998
Literally who-
>Trust In Me song
Oh yeah. Didn't know it was a thing past that.

>>29723536
Eh, you can't expect everyone to try and force pone into legitimacy through sheer will and talent.
I just wish someone did.

>>29723589
pleb

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>>29723521
No idea. he faded from existence ever since he was exposed with his sonic rainboom "movie"

>>29723561
I'm not >>29723536 but he does have a point. If you started with ponies or KNOW you can do more than that, what is exactly the point of hiding your history with MLP? People now a days act like just because they were associated with making pony stuff, that will hurt their chances of being signed at a record label or whatever they want to do thanks to the community.

>>29721998
Yep. I understand wanting off the ride, but ditching in the middle of an active project is kind of shitty. Especially when you've been hyping the thing for months.

>>29723002
I'm still making pony content anon

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5cszirs446t3u1l/Love.mp3?dl=0

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>>29722285
Yeah and add to that a story about Princesses who have almost no relevancy in the series mot to mention about a plotline that is completely non canon and with OOC Discord who somehow appears when they were young.

Pure autism movie with Disney tier quality? Were they fucking high?

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The old media industry is controlled by a bunch of talentless out of touch accountants who green light formulaic corporate dreck to fill space between adverts. Good stuff is only produced when they aren't paying attention for one reason for another.

The managerial level is filled with over promoted fuck wits that slept, nepotised or deceived their way into positions of moderate power and let it twist what little brains they ever had and revel in how little real work they need to put in.

You will invariably be fucked over every way to Sunday to produce content you hate and be discarded the second you slow down because universities continually jizz out more arts students into an over saturated market that will work for free.

So these goons have decided to give up their stable brony dollar incomes which are a damned sight more money than most people on this board will ever earn, give up setting their own workload and picking their own projects.

Give it all up so they can get buttfucked daily just so they feel like 'a real artist'.

Fools.

So my patreon money went down the fucking drain, always nice to hear that

Honestly this whole explanation sounds rather fishy, "too much stress" seems to be the most believable out of them

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>>29724020
You can't expect the Patreon dosh to continue if you slowly stop producing content. If you make one for content, you should know what you're getting into. "stress" shouldn't begin to cover it.

>>29721998
What's with the finality in this statement

>No "we'll cut down on pony stuff"
>or "we'll go an a hiatus"
>but a "you know this fandom that we completely own our success and fanbase to... screw that"

Seriously fuck this attitude

>>29724020
You can cancel your patreon donation, right? I'm sure you won't be the only one to do so. It should be interesting to see how their patreon numbers look in a week or a month.

>>29724168
Sure you can >>29722886 has the numbers up to this point

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>>29723823
now that's just fucking depressing. thanks anon

>>29722933
fucking underrated post
what did you dream?
it's alright,
we told you what to dream.

>>29723384
wow what a disgusting piece of shit. good riddance.

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>>29723823
Fucking thank you for writing it like it is and saving us the trouble of having to do so. Fuck society.

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>>29722886
MFW little known sfm pony porn artist I duo livestream with twice a week makes nearly 3 times that on patreon

MFW even that number is going to drop by at least 1/3 or more after giving their main content IP fanbase a huge 'fuck you'

MANY SUCH CASES! SAD!

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At least TBSP has come back from the dead

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>>29723823
I can't think of an industry I haven't heard someone on 4chan produce a rant like this about at some point. Games, movies, books, television- if I went to /o/, I have no doubt they'd be saying it about cars. It's not much different from the doompauling we've had at every show announcement since season 2.

If any part of society was as bad as people like you are convinced every part of it is, it would have ceased to exist years ago. While the issues you bring up are no doubt present, there is a difference between addressing an industry's flaws and walking around with an "END IS NIGH" sign while giving no productive input whatsoever.

Some things are bad. We get it. What are you going to do to fix the situation? If the answer is give up, then what are you still complaining for? Does it really bother you so much that someone out there hasn't lost hope yet?

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>>29722886

>FNAF

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>>29722537
>Slashy
Yeah okay...

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>>29722886
>FNAF
>shitty dragon OCs
>steven universe
IS THIS THE REAL LIFE
IS THIS JUST FANTASY

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>>29722537
That's bullshit. I am an MLP game developer, and two of the people on our team have or have had professional jobs in the game industry - based on, at least in part, their experience making My Little Pony games. And I have looked at other professionals' portfolios, and I have seen cringey, barbie-tier little girl shit in their professional portfolios. No one, no adult in a professional industry, is so childish as to outright reject an applicant based on something gay and girly and childish being in his portfolio. No adult in an industry would care if you made Barney the fucking dinosaur as long as its professionally done, high quality work. I just don't buy it. These people employ ARTISTS. They employ furries and weeboos and faggots and D&D nerds and pornographers. They don't give a FUCK as long as you're good and you do what you're told.

>>29725310
I m a programmer too so cant say how the market is for artists and maybe designers alike, but if someone like Fosshit managed to get a job at IDW I dont see their issue
Thou I do hear that this career sucks from time to time

>>29722284

>if

Bro, have you seen the characters?

>>29723652
because hating anything ponies is a meme, and memeing faggots in comments sections are not reasonable in any way, shape, or form

>>29725310
wait, do you develop a fan-made game, or an official Hasbro game?

>>29723823
You accurately describe the entire business spot on. Very well written.

Any normal industry rely on long term cycles in comparatively slow moving market.
The media market can change in a second as the audience fiddle with their remote control.

The nepotism and resulting incompetence is a side-effect of the market volatility.
It forces people to gang up and form alliances based upon connections instead of talent.

>>29722886
>They have 200 patrons and 837 $ monthly.
If a subscriber freeze payment, or put on hold his transactions, it won't be visible?
Webpage shows the potential number of subs, and not what actually cleared?

If so, the amount of people who take a "time-out" may cause the number to drop without it showing?

At least that's what I understood from reading how some Patreon owners (after a drop in subs) explain they just removed people whose payments never cleared.
(Usually they seem unwilling to do that to a potential customer who might have temporary financial problems instead of being some random content stealer.)

>>29721998
I don't get it, why do people insist on doing pony shit tied to their actual name

I keep the too as separate as fucking possible

>>29725495
Legends of Equestria.

>>29724520
Half of those are just bots stealing his porn and uploading it to other sites. You know that, right? He doesn't actually make that much. Ask Tiarawhy explained this in a thread once.

>>29722886

They will lose at least 50 patrons

>>29722886
If they only made a fluttercord content instead dislestia they could have earn the millions count video views like bride of discord. This is how a retarded ship ruin career.

>>29723823
It's a living, sure, but you'll eventually get miserable doing this. It's like drawing porn or fetishes, sure it pays but at what cost?

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>>29721998
The songs they posted weren't that good anyway, tbqh. I wasn't really looking forward to it. Sad to see that pony makes them feel bad though. That is the opposite of what pony is supposed to do.

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>>29724660
>comment on rants about creative industries
>strawman the automotive industry

Everyone's job sucks, but entertainment/artistry is uniquely shitty. The big problem nowadays is that so many people commit themselves to artistry in one form or another to the point that they haven't developed any useful skills other than said artistry. This huge pool of people are desperate to earn a living like everyone else, so they'll always have to deal with the problems anon mentioned, because if they don't someone else more desperate will and they'll be out of a job. Whether it's because they either can't afford retraining, or don't have time to learn another trade, or don't want to waste what talent they have, or are still trying to chase their dream, or whatever, most artists are willing to lock themselves in and deal with the problems to keep 'doing what they love'.

It's always been a thing, and it'll always be a thing. Suffering for your art is a concept as old as recorded history, this is just the information age's take on it.

this unironically saddens me. I feel like I joined the ride too late, and now it's slowly dying

wake me up

>>29727370

Same here bro

>>29727370
Everything is slowly dying.

Even us.

>>29727370
>>29727846
>>29728125
What was the main difference between classic fandom and the modern one? We used to have hope, high expectations, and passion. Now we have cynicism and flattened dreams. It's said that behind every cynic there's a disappointed idealist, and I believe in that. Instead of lamenting the fandom's "death", be the change you want to see. Because lamenting the fandom's death will be the death of the fandom, inevitably. The more people stop buying into this meme and stop shunning newfriends away and saying nothing is worth it anymore, the more the fandom will be revitalized. Plus it's no secret that barneyfag and people who actually want the fandom dead shitpost among us, which only adds burden to the fandom's collective psyche. Don't let them win. /mlp/ will always be a cesspool of scorn and biting commentary, and I wouldn't want it any other way, but we need to get ourselves out of this rut. Star Trek is still going strong, so is Star Wars, there's nothing that says we can't do it either, despite all the doompaulers. Spread the message, we need this mindset to be the norm, not the exception.

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>>29722217

>>29728311
>What was the main difference between classic fandom and the modern one?

http://hyperindex.mlpg.co/
(see ponies down there)
it's basically >fun

And yes, there's almost three shitposters plus barneyfag fucking with /mlp/.
Shimsham, christian shimmer, moondiapper, glimglam shitposting are all done by one shitposter and newfags that doesn't know 4chan's behaviour follow him.

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Should've voted for DWK then

>>29723324
Though the "the cringe" point is stupid, the C&D and the drawing points are legitimate concerns and I can see why they'd quit. Though with the drawing point, a simple break like mentioned by others could probably have worked as well.

>>29728618
inb4 DWK leaves the fandom too

>>29727306
>The big problem nowadays is that so many people commit themselves to artistry in one form or another to the point that they haven't developed any useful skills other than said artistry.

As a college student going for a film studies major, I can confirm this is true. The only skills I know are related to movie making and working backstage at a local theatre.

That being said, I'm taking information technology classes so that I won't be totally worthless once I'm done with college.

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>>29725207
caught in a landslide
NO ESCAPE FROM REALITY

>>29727306
The starving artist joke is real.

>>29721998
Who are these nobodies?

>>29722254
What potential franchise?

>>29721998
No pony, no money
automatic patreon cancel

>>29722678
dumb nyxhater

>>29723384

good riddance