was there ever a moment in FiM you thought was extremely

>>29691214
Glimmer's motivation for becoming a villain

>>29691214
When I watched the last episode of season six and realized I would have to wait for season 7

>>29691214
Celestia.

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>>29691214

These fuckers. I mean how toyetic can you get?

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>>29691214
>When you realize you forgot to pick up some power converters

>>29691214
The first episode. It was all downhill from there.

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>>29691214
>posting spoiler webms before a link is up
FUCK YOU
YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

>>29691214
watching Star VS The Forces of Evil

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>>29691214
Off the top of my head;
>Applejack's trial in Friendship is Magic
>Retconning Derpy
>Cadance's backstory Shining Armor appearing out of fucking nowhere
>Pretty much everything from S3 except for the mirror pool and the Alicorn Amulet
>Alicorn Twilight
This one actually got worse after I watched the interview with Larson where he details what he wanted in the script. It actually could have fucking worked until corporate fucked it into some diseased mess of an episode.
>The flashback to when Luna turned into Nightmare
>Discord being neutered
>Rarity's psychotic break episode
>Treebary being fucked over for a stupid fucking ugly-ass piece of crystallized dragon jizz toy placement
Season 5 is where my memory starts fucking up but some standouts are;
>Glimmer's backstory
>Glimmer being shoehorned into everything and being the show-runners' pet character
>Baby Alicorn for no fucking reason and no relevant lore being dropped
>Some stellar pieces of shit that made Season 6 painful

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>>29691214
Honestly? Most of them.

>>29691559
I think this post perfectly sums up why everyone left.
Heck, this makes me almost want to stop right now and cut my losses.

>>29691645
>Cut your losses
Two thoughts on this. One, cut your losses after what? A ton of awful stuff has already happened, if you're still here, you've got some reason to be. Unless you got on the ride late, in which case I'm sorry, you missed out on some fun times. Things are still fun, though.

Two, things aren't set in stone. Good stuff can still happen. Maybe consider leaving if Season 7 is unpromising. Two trash seasons in a row probably means that the show isn't going to recover without some serious restructuring.

Pretty much everything disappointing me in this show these days. I just keep my expectations really low.

A random one: When I saw the animatic for the ending song in "The Mane Attraction" I hyped the episode for months, thinking it was going to be amazing (lots of theories on what the plot might be). I ended up not really liking the episode because the writing and storyboarding just felt off. The biggest problem was the manager constantly in the foreground rather than a puppetmaster in the background. The whole episode taking place outside just felt wrong.

My absolute biggest dissapointment was Newbie Dash. I wasn't hyped at all for this episode but, I was disappointed as soon as I read the synopsis. Everyone knows that writing a payoff episode to a longtime goal is an easy and free 10/10 episode. Instead they just say "Fuck it, you're a Wonderbolt" before the intro even plays. We needed a Crusaders of The Lost Mark style episode for Rainbow Dash getting into the Wonderbolts.

I'm dissapointed that G.M. Berrow wrote such a good backstory for Cadence but we haven't ever seen it in the show.

I'm disappointed that there was never an episode that showed the difference between princess and Alicorn. The aftermath of season 3 was all just Twilight being a princess. It never went into things like what it meant to be an alicorn or even simply referencing Alicorns having earth pony powers/strength. The fucking Baby Flurry Heart Scrapbook short gave us more about Alicorns than the show ever did.

I'm incredibly mad that Haber pulled a bunch of bullshit with Flurry Heart's origin and lore but never expanded on it in a later episode.

And latest disappointment is the reveal of season 7's premiere. A big fuck you from the staff who doesn't understand when and when not to use serial continuity. We're sick of Glimmer and just continuing directly off of season 6 as some sort of wrap up is idiotic. We needed a new direction to grip us again.

>>29691707
>Dashfags wait 5 years for and episode where their waifu to get into the Wonderbolts
>Get tossed a rotten hunk of garbage that uses cringe humor to propel the plot
Dashfags are scum, but they didn't deserve that, desu.

I cant believe how shallow that dule was. One lightsaber move. The dialoge between Ben and Maul was good tho

Secret of My Excess never being relevant outside of one episode. I assume at this point that no writer currently on the show has actually watched it.

>>29691748
sparity will never, ever be canon

deal with it

>>29691779
Not even that, just forgetting about the greed growth thing.

>>29691214
>every thread asking vague non-show specific questions never use pony images
fuck off our board.

>>29691807
/mlp/ is dead anon.

>>29691693
>Unless you got on the ride late
Hit the nail on the head.

I think you're right though, I should give it at least one more chance, maybe I'm just tired by this hiatus.

>>29691748

That reminds me. Dragon Quest was a disgusting disappointment. One of the first real disappointments in the show for me besides maybe the treatment of Princess Luna early on.

The preview clip for Dragon Quest was the little intro where Spike was grappling with his identity. It could have been an amazing look into both Spike and the dragon lore. Instead we get some bullshit about toxic masculinity.

Which leads me to more dissapointment.

The writers HATE non-pony species. There's the whole joke around her about the show being /pol/ tier and it's entirely true.

Cows and Sheep: One off jokes.
Deer: non sapient!?
Donkeys: Not bad, real culture shown though.
Zebra: Good. No complaints. Not sure if I really want to see an expansion on them, i'm sure they'll fuck it up.
Buffalo: Honestly one of the better species shown, but incredibly generic with just using Native American tropes.
Griffons: Fuck you, it's a shithole with good lore but at the expense of a nice fantasy kingdom.
Yaks: I honestly thought Conafalone was going to be a fucking shit new writer because of his first episode. The yaks were the worst depiction of a new species yet.
Dragons: Ignoring the bad depiction in Dragon Quest, Gauntlet of Fire wasn't awful but i'd say it was half baked and only satisfactory.
Seaponies: Only part of the movie i'm hyped for. Looks like it'll be a good depiction of a new species. Though Seaquestria is a shit name for the place.

>>29691838
I try not to sound like a SJW, but the show really does have a weird "White Mans Burden" type thing going on. Its weird because I'm sure it isn't intentional.

The one zebra we know is a literal magic negro. Come on.

Yaks are okay, I actually think this episode is underrated and has a good message about not patronizing other cultures.

Dragons and the way the show treated them was an embarrassment until S6.

>>29691861
I toss the same explanation at all that sort of shit: It's a 2010 show with 2010 sensibilities. It didn't die on time and it didn't evolve to compensate, now it's stuck in a state too far gone to fix.
Too much has changed in animation and, like a lot of the problems with the show, it would take massive reconstruction to fix the issues.

>>29691990
Its actually a 2008/2009 era show because that's where groundwork was laid. If you want to imagine what the show would look like if it represented the modern era, take the writing from the IDW comics and put them in a show that looks like Adventure Time.

It may be flawed but I'm glad its a cartoon of its time because the time we're in isn't good for the genre in a lot of ways.

>>29691214
The fact it couldn't have been an adult's show, it would have been weird and different, but at least it would have gotten the respect it deserved. The characters, lore, and music were all amazing, and Hasbro had to fuck it up.

>>29691861
>Dragons and the way the show treated them was an embarrassment until S6
Before Season 6, dragons were much more similar to their DnD counterparts; territorial, fierce and brutish, with natural a cunning and code of honor. They weren't really much of a civilization and no one knew anything about them because they wouldn't fucking talk to anyone.

They were treated fine for what they were, arrogant, xenophobic assholes.

The only thing the writers could have done better would have been to expand on their lore a little more. Set up their relations with other races a little more concretely.

>>29691838
>Seaquestria
This can't be real. Do they not understand how jarring it will be to hear Equestria and Seaquestria used in the same piece of dialogue?

season six finale, every bit as blown as Darth Maul's death

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>>29691214
Replacing the elements of harmony with a friendship castle map

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>>29691214
Already mentioned itt, but the most disappointing moment for me was Newbie Dash. I admit that the episode had a nice message, but the writing was absolutely awful. It should have been the most rewarding episode for Rainbow but she's happy for only like 20 seconds of the episode after joining the Wonderbolts. It's quite significative that such "happiness" was so clumsily written that many people defined the ending as "they broke her", which wasn't remotely true considering Top Bolt or FF36. Not to mention that you know that a "positive" episode is completely fucked up when in the threads discussing it the following days the most repeated opinion from the apologizers of the episode was "Dash is a cunt and she deserved it, fuck her".

Giving the most important episode in a character's arc to a new writer who doesn't give a fuck about the tone of the show was not only disappointing by itself, for me it was also the realization that no one who supervises the show cares about it at all. This was the moment when all my hopes about the show vanished off. I expect nothing good at all anymore, I'd be happy if the show ended right now.

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>>29692049
Why the fuck would you want FiM to be an adult show? What could that possibly add?
Corporate meddling happens in mature shows, too.

>>29692009
The only really horrendous part of that would be the art style. I wouldn't be able to stand even more calarts bullshit.

>>29692104
Spike has a bit of that CalArts Casper-like shape going for his head if you remove some details.

>>29691693
>Good stuff can still happen. Maybe consider leaving if Season 7 is unpromising.
Fuck you, Jim. This is the third year you keep saying that and good stuff never happens.

>>29692104
>Why the fuck would you want FiM to be an adult show?
It would be more free to touch on slightly darker issues. I'm not saying I want a pony Family Guy or anything, but for it to actually address the things the episodes talk about in a more serious tone would be nice.
>Corporate meddling happens in mature shows, too.
To a lesser extent.

>>29692091

The interesting thing about Newbie Dash is that it actually had the potential to be good almost exactly how it is.

Wonderbolt Academy
Rainbow Falls
Rarity Investigates

All three of these episodes vilify or otherwise show the Wonderbolts in a bad light.

Newbie Dash could have been the final straw in the Wonderbolts arc where Rainbow Dash matures and realizes that they weren't what she had hoped for. It could have ended with Rainbow Dash giving up on the Wonderbolts. It would have made much more sense than what we got.

If you're good at predicting writing, you'd know that if you give a character something really significant right at the start of the episode, it's going to be taken at by the end. This episode defied that and instead completely wasted Rainbow Dash's potential big goal-fulfilling episode.

>>29692112
That's the whole point of the calarts thing, to simplify and reduce as much as possible while staying recognizable. You could say anything looks like those examples because those examples are meant to look like anything.

>>29692154
>it actually had the potential to be good almost exactly how it is.
Yeah, I agree. And that's what bothers me the most. I think that Polsky's premise was good, I think that he was trying to write something like a Crusaders of the Lost Mark and an On Your Marks in the same episode, and it probably would have worked. Too bad he couldn't write the actual episode because of health issues.

And then that fucking idiot, that fucking Dave Rapp, just writes 20 minutes of Spike singing the Cloudsdale Anthem. With the obvious difference that at least Spike saved the day in EG. And no one gave a fuck, nor Haber, nor Miller, "meh, this is good enough". Fuck them. Fuck them all.

>>29691602
exactly this

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>>29691214
Yes, when King Sombra was violently killed.

Also this new samurai Jack season.

>>29691559
>>29691251
>>29691602

What is wrong with you?? This is the best thing that happened in the show!! And by the way Twilight looks more beautiful with that wings of hers. I love her so much!!

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>>29691225
Oh my this

>>29691546
God I'm not the only one. Fresh on the heels of finishing up Gravity Falls I decided to begin binge watching another Disney cartoon that came highly recommend.
The amount of let down... wow

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>>29691214
pretty much all of S6 and S3

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>>29691214
Whenever some major, dramatic conflict is solved with "another fucking toy"

S4 finale was the worst offender, but the S6 finale was pretty bad too.

>>29693602
>Also this new samurai Jack season.
The fuck, it just started, how could you hate something that quickly?

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>>29691214
Every time they don't capitalise on something they themselves introduced. Like Twilicorn, Glimmer basically what's already posted here. I'm rarely disappointed with sudden changes, but if it's been for nothing it's the worst feeling. Just go through with something for once, make something matter. The status quo mentality doesn't work for a show where you actually try to give characters thier arcs.

>>29691214
Doublebladed fags btfo!

>>29691546
I tried to, since my brother was enthralled with it and I liked the porn, but fuck, man. It's just terrible.

>>29692061
>Before Dragon Quest, dragons were much more similar to their DnD counterparts
Fixed that for you, bro. That episode singlehandedly killed dragons in My Little Pony, and every dragon episode since then has only compounded the problem.

>>29691251
>>29691602
This
>29694297
Not gonna give you the satisfaction of a (You)

>>29691214
All of season 6

>>29691724
>>29691707
This, in regards to Newbie Dash. Hell, entering the Academy was okay, but we barely even got anything interesting about her making it into the reserves!

>I'm disappointed that there was never an episode that showed the difference between princess and Alicorn.
I really would've loved this. I mean, right there in MMC with Rarity's line it sounds crystal clear that "alicorn" does not automatically mean "Magical Special Princess". But more and more later episodes make it clear that yes, actually, there are only the five alicorns, and with the exception of Flurry Heart (presumably just for now), they're all princesses.
And Tirek showed us that the fanon of "Earth Magic" was true, but the closest thing we've seen to it so far is that Twilight and Cadance can pull a massive golden throne chariot, and Twilight can casually fly with a load that nearly cripples Fluttershy.

Most of my disappointments are also things that didn't happen, rather than things that did.

Although the second time we finally see Gilda counts. Griffinstone was so disappointing. Wow, an entire race of shiftless unfriendly shits that need saved by ponies showing them their scones don't have enough baking powder. They could've saved it with some slightly better writing too, kind of like the Cider Squeezy episode.

Almost makes me glad we never got to see Zebrica. They would've taken a massive shit all over them.

>>29691838
Oh hey, somebody that agrees.

Also mad that Twilight being something very special in regards to magic was never followed up on. Boast Busters and her section of Cutie Mark Chronicles may as well have been swept under the rug.

>>29692091
>>29692154
That's a really good point. I would've been fine with that too. Otherwise it should've been a build-up, tests and all that shit, instead of Spitfire dropping by and going, "Oh hey you're a Wonderbolt now."

The part where Rainbow tried to mimic the other Mane Six was a little funny at least.

>>29696000
Great way to say it.

I do have to say, I'm honestly a lot less mad about two of the fandom's biggest bugaboos than everybody else seems to be: princess Twilight and reformed Discord.
But they don't do shit with Twilight's alicorn princess status.

And they really could use a recurring villain.
It can work perfectly well in cutesie shows, imagine Gargamel except with better motivation and more competence.

>>29697765
Just once more

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>>29698502
>Wow, an entire race of shiftless unfriendly shits that need saved by ponies showing them their scones don't have enough baking powder.

That wasn't the point of the episode at all. The point was that the griffons' lack of friendship stemmed not from some missing old relic but rather from them being extremely selfish. Ponk teaching Gilda how to share is implied to be spark that starts a chain reaction that salvages the griffons.

Also, I'm still firmly in the camp that believes Newbie Dash was a great episode. If you only view this episode as "wondercunts being mean to my waifu", then you fail to see it from the Wonderbolt's point of view.

To the Wonderbolts, Dash is fucking superwoman. She's saved Equestria multiple times, boasts all the time, and can give their fastest flier a run for her money. As they themselves said, the only reason she wasn't on the Wonderbolts yet is because they didn't have a free spot. They didn't know Rainbow Dash was actually incredibly insecure about the whole thing, and the locker-room banter was doing serious harm to her self image because of it. They were treating her like one of the guys while under the impression that she could take it, not knowing Dash felt like she really had to prove herself, which the Wonderbolts didn't care about at all.

The ending is great, because it implies Rainbow Dash finally feels like she belongs, and doesn't need to constantly prove herself. It's a huge character development moment.

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>>29700365
Not the anon you replied to (I'm >>29692091, fwiw), but I wanted to write a comment about this
>If you only view this episode as "wondercunts being mean to my waifu", then you fail to see it from the Wonderbolt's point of view.
I'm honestly tired of reading this excuse to defend the episode. "No, you don't understand it, they weren't being mean her." I know that they weren't, but that doesn't make the episode any better.

Look at Wonderbolts Academy. The Wonderbolts don't treat Rainbow as some kind of hero there either. They outright tell Dash that Lightning Dust is better than her. Rainbow ultimately can't take it anymore and decides to leave the Wonderbolts. And yet, I don't think you can find many Dashfags who would say "I didn't like Wonderbolts Academy because the Wonderbolts were mean to my waifu", most Dashfags I talked with about the episode liked or even loved it.

The problem with Newbie Dash (or at least /my/ problem with Newbie Dash) is, it doesn't feel like a MLP episode. It feels completely mean-spirited. And, again, I'm not talking about the Wonderbolts themselves, I'm talking about the tone of the episode. Right at the start of the episode we see that Rainbow is completely devastated. She acts funny during the whole episode because she's sad and she's trying to hide it. And the episode is presented in a "humorous" manner, to make us laugh at her, having the worst time of her life. The whole episode is "remember, she's sad, she's never been sadder, laugh at her! isn't this hilarious? let's make it funnier! let's make her crash into cotton candy! ha! it's funny because she's sad!" That's absolutely insane. I'm not mad at the Wonderbolts, I'm mad at the writer.

Plus, remember, this was supposed to be the most special episode ever for Dash. 6 years waiting for it. And instead of something special, it was nothing but cringe humor. The only good part of the episode was, literally, the last frame. It's not fair.

The episode was fucking shit.

>>29700529
>It feels completely mean-spirited
Not even Dashfag but I agree with this, for some reason it was a bit painful to watch. And it's not the first time I felt like that in newer seasons. It's not even about "my waifu being bullied boohoo", I love when there's some struggle in the episode, but sometimes it's different. Maybe I'm just too invested in the characters, I dunno. I'm still glad for Dash in the end, even if it left a bitter taste.

>>29700624
>I'm still glad for Dash in the end
That's the trick of the episode. People were expecting an episode were Dash just joined the Wonderbolts. In this episode she joins the Wonderbolts, she discovers that they admire her, and she overcomes one of her oldest fears. And those are many reasons to be happy for Dash, I won't deny that.
But those are like the first 10 and the last 20 seconds of the episode. Everything else could have been completely different (and by that I mean, good), those 30 seconds would still be the same, and everyone would have the same reasons to be happy, just with a better episode.
>And it's not the first time I felt like that in newer seasons.
I agree. This was probably the worst of those episodes for me, because I am a Dashfag, but it's something that I noticed in more episodes.

>>29700529

In context, Lightning Dust was better than Rainbow Dash. Except she was better because she did horrible things to the others, but it's not like Spitfire knew that. Once Rainbow Dash said the only reason she was performing better was because she didn't care about how her reckless behavior was endangering others, Spitfire came around instantly. Originally in Spitfire's point of view, Rainbow Dash was acting like a whiny cunt because she was a wingpony and not in charge, which is pretty terrible behavior when you're supposed to be a team member.

>The whole episode is "remember, she's sad, she's never been sadder, laugh at her! isn't this hilarious?

Literally nothing of that was intended to be hilarious, and if you think it was then you have a terrible sense of humor. Just because people on screen laugh doesn't mean you have to laugh as well. Did you think the part where Fluttershy is having a hallucination where everyone is laughing at her was supposed to be funny as well? How fucking socially awkward are you when a cartoon written for little girls is too emotionally deep for you? That's pretty embarrassing, man. Maybe you're projecting onto the show a bit too much.

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>>29700720
>Literally nothing of that was intended to be hilarious
Are you serious, Anon? I'm not talking about the scene were she's crying, I'm talking about her reactions trying to be accepted. For me they weren't funny in the slightest, but I'm pretty sure that they were supposed to be funny.

>>29691214
Not so much.

>>29694326
>gravity falls
pleb tastes anon
>>29697789
yes it's generally known that through the first half of season one its not good. After the first half it only gets better

>>29691214
Didn't he die in episode 1?

>>29701270
The Clone Wars cartoon series brings him back to life.

>>29701270
Nah, he got angry enough to live out of spite

>>29691214
Season 3 episode 1 ..................Onwards

>>29700365

Buddy, I'm not being ironic here, but this is what I'm reading:

>>Wow, an entire race of shiftless unfriendly shits that need saved by ponies showing them their scones don't have enough baking powder.
>That wasn't the point of the episode at all. The point was [exactly what I just said]

Wait, unless you're reading the part where I talked about scones and baking powder literally. No, I'm using that as a metaphor for the significantly more serious problem that this is an entire race of sapient beings and they specifically needed a pony to teach them how to be less shitty. I'm all for outside points of view, but this was so fucking hackneyed.
It was also incredibly pathetic on the griffin's parts that the most famous signature food of their capital city had to be fixed by a pony too.

Now, it is true, the fact that Rainbow and Pinkie are confused, and focus on the state of the kingdom and the missing relic instead of the lack of friendship was a good premise, and was what I was thinking about when I talked about how better writing could've saved it.


As for Newbie Dash, I only hate it because I hate cringe humor. "Oh look the character does something to embarrass themselves. How clever." That's part of why Newbie Dash and Equestria Games are two of my least favorite episodes.
You are right though that, "rainbow gets hazed a little, can't deal well with it, but after trials finally understands and feels accepted," is a great little development arc for her.
I just wish they could've made it feel less dumb.

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>>29701958
>Equestria Games
I think cringe humor there was executed better than in Newbie Dash.

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>>29701284
>The Clone Wars cartoon series brings him back to life.
in the most horrendous way

>>29691546
Ive noticed a large uptick on the amount of Starposting on this board
fucking stop