Holy crap, I just installed Harmony, and its so much better than

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>>28878696
Common flash error imm talking about, it seems fine, but when you render it the black follows the line and you get that flat bit on top, i cant unsee it in the episodes since it happened to e.

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>>28878706
Episode screenshots showing it

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Flash being shit

Am I the only one caring about this?

>>28878737
You're acting hysterical over lines on a dark corner of the internet at four in the morning EST.

Can you feel all this caring?

>>28878748
fine, il be back in 2h when everyone's awake.

>>28878783
try 4 hours
not everyone is going to be awake at 3AM on the west coast

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>>28878800
>West coast.

So no one that matters?

< : ^ )

>>28878800
Why cant you retards just have 1 timezone like the rest of the world?

>>28878895
i think their country is too wide
the sun wouldnt be at the same height at the same hour on the east and west coast if they had only one time zone

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>>28878737
No, but there aren't a lot of animators on /mlp/. The movie is going to use Harmony, so that's reassuring.

>>28878953
amateur animator here /)

do we have any previews available of how the movie will look
would be nice to see just exactly how better this whole harmony dohickey is compared to flash

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>>28878962
I dont think theres any videos out yet, All ive seen is a couple of twilight stills

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>>28878993

>that horrible crop job

Nice try, rusekike!

>>28878902
You think so? Where did you read that, in a book or something?

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>>28878993

That's the 3D model that's used in Gmod videos.

>>28878895
>like the rest of the world?
The rest of the world is Russia and Russia has much more than one time zone.

>>28878953
Where did you hear that?

I heard it was Toon Boom that was being used.

Source: anonymous shitposter on 4chan

>>28879048
Harmony is a product in the Toon Boom range.

>>28879136
Are you saying, Harmony is am element of Toon Boom?

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>>28879185

Toom Boom is an element of Harmony.

>>28879011
yea ive read several on the subject

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>>28879048
It's toon boom Harmony like adobe Photoshop.

>>28878696
OP be cool and animate something in Harmony so we'll have an idea what the movie will look like.

>>28879048
EQD has a post somewhere where they confirm it.

>>28879014
>Gmod videos
SFM you uncultured swine.

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>>28879464

I was watching Gmod Pony videos before SFM even existed, you pretentious twat. Back when people did frames using SnapTool.

The models already existed back then.

>>28879407
>be cool and animate something in Harmony
next week when im done with exams ill do it

Anyone have any requests?

>>28879561

Fluttershy lying on the sofa, resting her pregnant tummy as Discord caresses it softly.

>>28878696
Why didn't you use Toonboom since 2013 like Disney has?

>>28879788
noted

>>28879798
for that authentic flash feel in my animations

>>28879788
Oh fuck no.

Anon I want you to animate a shadowbolt lightning blasting Discord.

>>28879788
second

>>28879407
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2PCNKlddJY

This was animated with Harmony along with Photoshop and After Effects.

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>>28879788
This.
Fluttercucks need a good btfoing.

>>28879464
>SFM
>culture

>>28880076
If this is how the movie will look, it will be damn good

>>28880096
>>28879788
>>28880057
Im supposed to be studying but now im busy drawing a pregnant fluttershy because I cant get it out of my head.

God damn it

>>28880076
that is fucking good shit
I forget that this fandom and excrete good stuff once in a while
if the official movie is half as good as that was, I'll be pleased

>>28880250
I just hope they don't change the character looks TOO much
but yes, I'm hyped
if a fan(s) can do that, then a team of actual animators with a huge budget can do just as good if not better
the question then is, how much will hasbro to do with the movie?
as in, their designs and toy placement being too obvious?
will it be a repeat of Transformers, the Animated Movie from back in the 80's?

>>28879788
hehe

>>28880284
You've got your priorities right, anon.
Can't wait to see it.

>>28878696
Licensing costs and training costs

>>28880311
>>28880076
I hope the movie is less gradients and more vector art like the show

>>28880311
>how much will hasbro to do with the movie?

the only thing I know is that the staff behind it is "going all out" regarding quality.

So yeah, an 8/10 is a given

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I cant figure out how to draw a pregnant pony. It just looks fat.

Im going to have to look up some examples of this...

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>>28880545

Pregnant things ain't supposed to look pretty, they kinda just look fat and sort of disgusting. Look.

>>28880571
I don't see how a picture of Fluttershy cradling a yellow beach ball to her belly is relevant.

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>>28880545
>>28879788

This is going to be awesome. Poor Fluttersfags, no rest of the wicked.

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>>28880589

That's just how pregnant ponies look like. How could it not be relevant if you don't know how to approach it?

>>28878696
>Why didnt they use this since the beginning for MLP?
Because it's expensive to get a commercial team licence for harmony. Pony was made in the 2003 version of Flash and you think DHX are made of money?

Why isn't anyone on this board interested in making money trading bitcoins?

>>28880887

Because almost no one knows shit about making money through trading bitcoins in here, and coming to an anonymous board to ask for that, well, kinda makes it sound very fishy.

>>28878993
Look Ma, no wings!

>>28878993
They're so cheap they couldn't even bother making their own models instead of using the SFM ones?

>>28880887
What the fuck did you just say to me you little bitch? I'll have you know I mine bitcoins, I buy WAVES, I bought NVDA on the slope and shorted Enron, boy. I've made more money as a /biz/nessman than you ever will in you entire life.

>>28880887
Bitcoins are so 2011.

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>>28879041
>The rest of the world is Russia

>>28881205
>he fell for his snafu

>>28878696
What the actual fuck are you talking about? I have been using flash for years, and unless you are creating your assets directly in flash, there should be no errors with importing vectors for some of the more complex symbols, such as eyes for example.

Harmony is great if you can afford it, but for most people flash is still the go to software for 2d animation, both because of how easy it is to get (both legally and illegally), and because it's a relatively easy software to pick up if you already know the basic fundamentals of animation.
>>28880076
That's a nice animation, but one of the reasons why you don't mix rasters with vectors in animation is because rasters are images that cannot change their appearance dynamically like vectors can, so when you go to animate a scene and there is some degree of motion the difference between the two will become very apparent...The raster won't look as clean and defined as the vector will...

>>28884517
The basics are exactly the same for flash and harmony, so I dont see how its harder to get into.

and harmony has
>Automatic lip sincing
>advance character rigging
>pallet swapping on templates
>much better tweening
>paper animation support

>>28884948
I meant that flash is easier to get started with because of the plethora of resources for it in comparison to harmony. So in that regard with no formal training with either program, it would be safe to say that a hobbyist would have an easier time picking up on flash than they would harmony.

>>28882587
>implying most countries are even big enough to warrant more than one time zone.

My harmony just bombed out and now the trail extension doesn't work. This might delay the animation while i find a better method to pirate it.

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>>28885343
Unless the trial is set to self destruct after a given time period automatically and that data is hardcoded in the actual program itself somewhere, you should be able to make a portable version of it to bypass any registry checks. That is, assuming the trial is exactly the same as the paid version.

I'll poke around with it a bit and see what I can find.

>>28885416
>>28885343
it seems the trail is linked to your account, and all you need it a email address to activate it, so i guess i could just create a new account with a throwaway email every 21 days. tedious but not difficult. Unless they have some protection against that.

Also, apparently there is no water mark in the trail, but i haven't checked it yet.

Example of cheap Flash animation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BLp0lGOL9M

Example of less cheap Flash animation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMWsptgWFuo

Example of what good-budgeted Flash animation looks like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Oe7Q8OCm5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QCw0KRWXMI

Example of an older version of Toonboom/Harmony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZdMD_tmG54

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>>28885444
Yes, one of the options is to try the program, but it also has an option to activate with an activation code connected to the internet, which opens up the potential to block the internet connection, then reverse engineer the program to accept a given activation code. This is exactly why some torrents give you a single key instead of an actual keygen, because the installer and program it contains is deisgned to look for a specific key. Theoretically it should work, depending on how well the software is protected that is.

I'm still looking at it.

>>28878706
How did they get the eyelashes' curves to narrow down in an edge? extra tacked-on add-ons for Flash?

>>28878696
Have you ever tried toonz premium op?
Looking to ditch flash and I can't decide between moving to this or toonz.

>>28885444
so this doesn't work. it detects a trail has been used on the same PC before.

>>28879527
The models have changed a bit since the days of Gmod.

>>28878696
>Harmony
A fitting name for the show

>>28879788
Poor fluttershy the father ran off leaving her and discord to take care of the baby.

>>28885524
never used it.

>>28885490
>How did they get the eyelashes' curves to narrow down in an edge?
not sure what ypu are taking about, those their just a normal filled curve.

>>28878696
Yeah harmony is amazing, and once you start figuring out the stuff you can do with the node view it will blow your mind (not to mention pose copier). Hell z-dept shiting and deformers alone are huge time savers.
>>28885524
Toonz is really rough and is geared more towards classical animation. It also has no timeline view, only x-sheet, so if you're not familiar with classical animation workflow it will be a pain in the ass.

>>28878737
>Holy shit, Toon Boom is so much better!
>Just look at all the problems Flash has! The eye has a few pixels messed up!
>Also the pen tool is doing something weird!

Anon, nobody cares because most animators have more technical knowledge than this and have nothing to add to your absurd wonderment, and non-animators don't even know anything about Flash in the first place.

Yes, Toon Boom is a stronger program than Flash and it has a ton more tools. Eliminating that little detail on the eye is pretty much the most minor thing you could get excited about.

>>28885478
Toon Boom is actually pretty well protected. People I know who have cracked it find the software is incompatible or even dangerous to use with other people. You can't do group projects and therefore piracy is useless for anything more ambitious than solo animations. Pirated versions of Toon Boom can sometimes corrupt files made by other versions of Toon Boom. As far as I'm aware, there's also no simple piracy options. You have to get a lot deeper into your registry and system.

>>28886433
> nobody cares because most animators have more technical knowledge than this
apparently not, since as you can see in >>28878709 even the show animators have these problems

Continuing with my easy but tedious piracy method:

Everything works in a virtual machine with Windows 7, I can export the full thing with no watermark or anything, so it seems good. Performance is good enough and my wacom tablet works too. Only thing left to test now is if I can open something made in a previous trail in another one, or if the files themselfs contain some protection too.

>>28886655
>Even show animators have these problems
That is not a technical part of animation itself. It's a technical issue with using Flash, but doesn't have a lot of impact on how you'd actually do the job of animation, and it doesn't strictly limit your normal approach.

I mean this is kind of retarded. If you knew anything about Flash you'd be more excited about how much better the smoothing is in Toon Boom. Or you'd enjoy how the z layers work like TiaraWhy. >>28886372

Getting worked up about a little peculiarity around a character's eye due to a quirk of the program is nit-picking to a degree that I'd assume the poster merely heard about stuff like that as a fun but trivial "did you know" fact. Yes, Flash does that, but it comes up pretty rarely and the viewer doesn't usually notice. It's meaningless. Any experienced animator has a higher level of technical knowledge where animation actually matters, and there's nothing to add to "holy shit, look at these pixels most people don't think about!"

>>28886900
Cont: just reset my image, made a new trail account and copied over my previous project. everything working fine.

Last possible thing that could still fuck me is if the saved project somehow self destructs in 21 days.

>>28887009
Why do you keep calling your trial account a "trail" account.

>>28887037
He's blazing a trail for Toon Boom Harmony piracy, obviously.

You got harmony? There isn't a pirate bay version and it's like $1000 how did you get that shit?

>>28887142
read the thead

>>28887037
? didnt even know trial was a word. I thought it was trails, like a trail you follow to the full product.

What the hell is a trial?

>>28887142
Never mind
>>28885478
>>28886433
>>28886900
>>28887009
I guess you're running the trial in a VM?

>>28887167
>What the hell is a trial?
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=define+trial

>>28887170
yes, in virtual box.

>>28886972
Beside the drawing tools that work, harmony just has a plethora of stuff that makes life for animators so much better. Even simple as stage rotation.

For years flash had no ability to rotate the stage, and when they finally added it is was completely broken. The stage only rotates around the center point of the entire screen, no matter where you are. In harmony it rotates around the center of wherever you move or are zoomed in

>>28887009
They don't. The trial freeze works for version 12 (a friend of mine has used it for over a year now). There is also a full version of 12 but it's only on macosX. On windows the last version yar hard is 10.3.
>>28887142
I ended up paying for the whole thing. I do this full time now and it's key software for me, can't afford to have it not work out of nowhere.

>>28887218
Do you re install it each time? Or just install it on your pc and run it in a sandbox? I use sandboxie now, I wonder if it would work.

>>28887625
I installed it, then backed up the drive, so i dont have to each time.

>>28887516
>I do this full time now
do you make a living from ponyporn? or do you do other things? I haven't really kept up to date with your work.

>>28887773
Several things. My sfw and non pony animations are growing as well.

>>28886433
Looking at it a bit more, ToonBoom's activation works almost exactly like Autodesk products do, where it has to call out to a given server to check an activation code, accompanying license file or account information, but it appears to only do this when you initially start it up as far as I can tell. If I can figure out what calls this function, I should be able to spoof this in memory and make the program "think" it's connected to the activation server, then it should work the same way as the xforce keygens do, if you are familiar with them. Once you get past that part, and provided you block the program from accessing the network, you shouldn't need any sort of further modification from there.