What's so great and engaging about "Anon" greentext

wish fulfillment and escapism mainly

>>28785840
Wish fulfillment.

My stories are things I'm going to adapt into something else later on.

The nature of these stories are to see how certain characters would react in a situation that would never happen in the show, and the reader gets to be a part of it.

>>28785860
>The nature of these stories are to see how certain characters would react in a situation that would never happen in the show
Really? I thought the nature of them was to make neckbeards' dicks hard.

They piss off half the horsefuckers, and sexually excite the other half. This board has two goals and those stories achieve both.

It's fun to write.
People usually enjoy what you write.
Anon is in them because 1) When I arrived that's what everyone was doing, 2) If you just replaced 'Anon' with 'Kevin' or something it'd be the same, so Anon works in the context of 'being a generic character'. And, admittedly, part of the reason I enjoy writing green is for the attention and/or compliments. But that's okay if I'm actually putting out decent content, I think.

>>28785868
/thread

I just feel like people try to force Anon on most stories on this board even if a story may not have such a generic lead protagonist.

>>28785867
There's those stories but I keep my main story pure because I want to do something with it later on.
I think a lot of the anon fucks a horse stories wouldn't be so popular if people with to /trash/ for their porn.
>>28785883
also this

Supply and demand,

People demand stories, greentexts, etc.
Others supply them and in return they get compliments and gratitude.

>>28785840
Usually it's women that like to read those cheap mass-market romance novels for wish fulfillment, and they're fine with reading about and self-inserting into characters with actual names, like Jane and Alejandro or Sophie and Danny. Guys seem to need a placeholder name in the likes of "Anon" in order to enjoy the story.

>>28785903
People are afraid to write purely show-pertaining fanfiction without original characters, Anon or otherwise, because then they get caught up in whether they're portraying the characters accurately. "Would Rainbow Dash say this? Would Twilight really react that way? How many 'darlings' are too many? Will the readers know Applejack's accent if I don't write the dialect?" It's easier to introduce an original character that already-established characters can react to and spring off of.

>>28785840
>why people like anon stories
Because when you read about Anon, you don't read about a character with their own identity. Anon is nobody and everyone. Anon is the writefag, who can create a story as though he lived it himself. Anon is the reader, who can pretend that story happened to him.
Have you ever wondered why greentext is always in second person? This is your answer.
Self-insert.

>>28785941
But an Anon OC is often generic, or if it isn't it really shouldn't be Anon anymore.

>>28785941
Funnily enough some people here would argue that its more autistic to write a story with only show characters than an "Anon fucks waifu" story.

>>28785958
There you go. Anon is there to move the plot along or catch every sex detail from a first person POV. You can characterize him or not, but if you want the most people reading you're going to keep that name as Anon.

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>>28785924
>Guys seem to need a placeholder name in the likes of "Anon" in order to enjoy the story.
Except that like >>28785883 said:
>If you just replaced 'Anon' with 'Kevin' or something it'd be the same

Replace "Anon" -- or "Nonny" -- with any other name, and you get that same brand of cheap, sentimental tripe that the so-called hopeless romantics consume mindlessly for the (very) short-lived analgesic effect on the emptiness of their lives.

I honestly don't know why anonfags just cut the middle man and go torrent harem anime.

>>28785985
Harem anime dont have horses.
And if it does I would like a name.

>>28785978
>Anon is there to move the plot along or catch every sex detail from a first person POV.
No, "Anon" is there because /mlp/ cannot identify with a character with a personality and/or an actual backbone. It's the same as when the episode about Fluttershy's brother aired and why "nu-Fluttershy" triggers so many.

>>28785840
Self insert mostly. Which means they don't have to bother characterizing him. Everyone knows Anon/anonpone.
Stories with a pony as the main character are usually much more engaging and interesting.

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>>28785991
>Harem anime dont have horses.
You are not attracted to horses, be them stylized cartoons or (photo-)realistic. And even if you were, you don't consume anonfics for the horses; you read them for the waifus. Waifus that will instantly like you for no reason and mom you and take you to 'kuh-razy' adventures to liven up your life for you and that will suck you off while momming you and telling you "you are simply the best, don't change, don't get out of your comfort zone, don't put an effort to anything."

That's what you want. The horses could be replaced by furniture and they'd have the same effect. I guess that would explain the Plane Pony generals and similar threads.

>>28785840
Tripfagging to defend my stories.

In my case with comedy stories, I include Anon so I can push every other character and aspect in the story to its absolute limit of insanity. Contrast is a necessity for comedy, so if I want to flip Ponyville and every character in it on their heads, I need a character in there to remind you that they are, in fact, flipped on their heads.

So why use Anon and not, say, Applejack? Two reasons. The obvious one is because if Applejack is the straight man then I no longer get to make a joke out of her. And I want to make a joke out of her. The second reason is that it's much easier for Anon to be Ponyville's straight man because he is inherently out of place there, and therefore he is inherently more likely to not be familiar with whatever weird pony shit might be going on in the story. His alienness makes him the perfect straight man.

The other big benefit to using Anon, which other people mentioned, is that he is already universally accepted, and you neither have to characterize him nor worry about mischaracterizing him.

Always seems like the anons that raise their torches and pitchforks over Anon being in stories just dont read much of the fanfiction here in general. Its all shit, the only difference is whether you'd like corn or nuts with your shit.

>>28785958
>>28785978
There are two kinds of Anon: the self-insert and the 4chan mascot. No one can actually relate to the latter, his existence is cartoonishly chaotic in nature just to make people laugh at his antics.

>>28786039
>The horses could be replaced by furniture and they'd have the same effect
Then explain to me why I don't get a boner from the tea set in Beauty and the Beast.
>inb4 being called a pleb for not having a fine china fetish

>>28786156
>not getting a boner from china
I bet you get off from floor tiles you faggot.

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I will just say I feel like the Night Light Jr. story worked out much better because it used a defined character as the lead protagonist. It would have suffered had it been Anon.

>>28785941
People don't write about the main six anymore because they got tired of writing/reading about them. So they started writing about the background characters. Then that limited number got boring so they started writing about OCs. Once the OC stage was reached it's hard to go back to the previous stages, which is why Gabby doesn't have much fiction about her even though she was a relatively popular character this latest season.

This isn't unique to /mlp/, this progression happened to most of the fandom. /mlp/ just had the weird green self-insert present throughout.

>>28786181
Didn't that general die precisely because some fag wanted his self-insert into the story?

>>28786196
It was a character suggestion that everyone freaked out about. The person even agreed to not put the character into the story but the damage was already done.

>>28786165
You take that back, tupperfucker, my tilefu is beautiful and pure.

>>28786194
That sounds like when an addict starts looking for stronger drugs once the initial/previous ones don't do anything for them anymore. What's the term for that?

>>28786233
>What's the term for that?
Building up an immunity?

>>28786181
wasn't this the general about characters hijacked from some deviantautist?

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>>28786039
If you think every story is like that its obviously you didn't read around. There are only a few stories like that anymore anyway. Most of the time its writers trying their hand at taking already existing characters and using that to tell a story. I don't see why you have to assume that nobody here "lives outside their comfort zone" and only wants to live in a pony fantasy world.

You're using the most extreme cases and calling it the norm. I've written for many threads and not every single one was a waifu harem. Sure, I've written some romantic stuff, but thats because I like that kind of subject matter and I don't think thats necessarily a bad thing.

Plus, what have you written exactly? Are you a writer yourself? If you feel this way then why don't you write a story with substance that isn't a harem simulator?

Personally, I like to write to express ideas that I had or to make people feel something. I want people to feel exactly the way I describe something. I want them to almost feel like they're there because of the descriptive writing I use.

I want to make people laugh as well, so i've taken many interesting prompts and concepts and ran with them in a unique direction.

I just don't get why you're being so harsh. The fact that you believe every single story on this board right now is just "wish fulfillment" is just a shitty strawman argument.

>>28786241
Yup, but it worked to the story's advantage to do so.

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Is there a tutorial on how to read greentext stories?

I can not make sense of them. I do not understand the constantly flipping viewpoints, the narrative is wild and confusing, the indistinguishable meshing of action and dialogue makes no sense at all, and most of the meme talk (WhatIsThis.jpg) is horrendously out of place.

>>28786194
So when does the Anon stage end?

>>28786253
If the author switching viewpoints and between dialogue and exposition in a way that isn't clear, then that's not your fault. They just suck.

>>28786265
It doesn't. Anon's settled right into the OC stage since he's every OC. The OC stage ends when the fandom dies.

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>>28786207
That's pretty telling.

NLJr was always my favorite of Kilala's OCs. To be fair, however, much of what ended up being produced in the general never quite matched with what I picture him as (starting with the whole 'I wish I was a normal foal and not a prince' sort of thing and which, frankly, is clichéd as hell and which is more his sister's schtick that his) so I never really got around to enter more than the very first two threads.

Then by chance I return and I find all the drama surrounding that OC and the anons that had begun complaining about the main writefag.

>>28786240
I'm pretty sure there was a single-word term, or two-word, for that. 'Desensitization' or 'acceleration' or something like that.

>>28786253
You know how in 1984 it is mentioned that the Party has these automatic writing machines that recycle the same stories, changing but a few details here and there, over and over to produce porn for the proles?

Just look through the archives, pick up on whatever greentext fanfic you like and then change the names. Once you've read a "green", you've read them all.

>>28786253
Is there a tutorial on how to read books? My god, it's just hundreds of thousands of words worth of unnecessary dialogue that could just as easily get its message across with a well-placed meme that can better describe in three words the emotion and range of facial expressions happening in that moment (WhatIsThis.jpg)

Maybe I should lurk in a library more and learn how to read something I'm not familiar or comfortable with before shitting on this whole paperback entertainment culture.

>>28786279
When /mlp/ dies you can just go on over to /tg/ for more Anon.

>>28786279
Or when Hiro finally pulls the plug on this board.

>>28786251
This sums up all my thoughts too. No one writes fanfiction.net / fimfiction.net tier self-insert drek. I have most generals pinned, and the only one that has current greens involving romance & sex in any way is the Royal Guard Mare thread, but that's actual romance, not just smut.

>>28786253
>I can not make sense of them
I thought the same when I first found this site. Some people just don't like them too, I guess. Opinions, opinions.

>>28786293
Was it stupid to put in another character, yes because it was an overly crowded story with too many OCs flying around; however, the character wasn't as horrifyingly awful as people made it out to be. It was designed to be another antagonist set out to spread chaos on Night Light Jr.s normally peaceful life.

>>28786320
If it were done well, we wouldn't be here. Face it, greentext should be bannable.

>>28786422
>greentext should be bannable.
HAH

>>28786422
Ah, I was under the impression we were here because you crave attention and have nothing better to do with your life than complain about a single medium in the only place that provides it because you're a bitter cunt who can't write for shit and doesn't like it when someone manages to do better than you and has the admiration and support of a large part of the site's user base.

But apparently I was wrong. I guess I'll see you next month when this thread pops up again to accomplish nothing. First of the month, like fucking clockwork.

>>28785840
Personally, I find it easier to self-insert as a pony than a faceless green human.

>>28786634
Small equine detected, administering >rape

I like the stories where Anon doesn't get his way all the time, that way it's more refreshing when he does.
I don't like the "everyone is on Anon's dick for no reason" stories for that very reason.
I just want fellow writefags to just give a reason mares like him, a reason as simple as wanting to know what alien dick is like would at least be something.
Give him some character that would give the story depth instead of just an archetype, maybe he lost someone recently before arriving in Equestria, maybe he was part of a riot and now his cause means nothing, maybe he isn't completely fine with leaving all of his friends and family behind as the only human in magical horse land and thinks about it for once.
These are simple things that would create better stories and make Anon more relatable than a blank slate. People can identify with loneliness, loss, anger, frustration, and confusion, not just lust and passion.
Everything isn't hunky dory in the show so why should it be in the stories?
If they want to go the romance route make Anon identify with each mare on a personal level that strengthens their bond.
Most important of all, Anon needs flaws.
They don't have to be glaring story breaking ones, but they do need to have an impact on the story, and they do need to be addressed at some point.
People may stop reading if you call Anon out on his bullshit but it needs to be done.

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>>28786233
>>28786240
>>28786293
I believe the word you're thinking of is tolerance.

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>>28786251
>durr
not that faggot but thats exactly what you retards are doing. I only even call you retards becuase you are so fucking delusional you don't believe its what you are doing; Anon is a text book example of a fucking black hole sue, no matter what story, no matter what green you retards write, no matter how creatively different it is from the last tired waifu trash, (and they are legion, don't even pretend waifu/anons dick is not 70% of content on this board) It boils down to one simple fact.

Anon is in equestria, and the entire narrative completely revolves around him no matter what. No matter his personality, no matter the tension or lack their of in the lives of his waifu, Anon will be the center of their horsie lives. Weather its becuase they want to blow them, because they think his science is bullshit, or because theyre bitter enemies. All of anonfic is dominated by the idea that Anon is central to equestria, shit that other characters are interested and persuing are all dropped immediately to restructure around anon and his sudden presence in the show. He's either instantly their friend or instantly important. It doesn't matter. His effect on the characters is what makes it waifu trash. Waifu harem animes are defined by "x meets y under bullshit pretenses and now they go on and adventure because fuck logic."

The reason that works so well in harem animes though is because despite how fucking half assed it is, at least those characters didn't have any motivation pre-existing anon to have reason to not give a fuck about him. Ponies are different, theyre all pretty much rounded characters who already have goals, lives, friends, arguably even crushes. The introduction of anon and the subsiquent re-writing of these beings priorities as a matter of course is the single most blatant attention whore in this fandom.

To the point where its mind numbing that tits or get the fuck out ever became a thing with this shit around.

>>28786760
Nobody is asking you to stay here. You're just coming on here to complain and won't even remotely listen to reason. If you hate it so much, why the fuck are you even here complaining about it.

You didn't raise any points about what I said, you just wrote >durr.

Are you fucking serious? This is not how you have an argument. I stated that not every greentext on this board is a harem anime copycat, or even CONTAINS ANON.

Again, you go right back to your harem anime strawman argument.

And since you blatantly never answered my question, let me ask it again.

HAVE YOU EVER WRITTEN FOR THIS BOARD? HAVE YOU EVER WRITTEN A GODDAMN THING IN YOUR LIFE?

If your answer is no, then I don't see how complaining is going to change anything. Be the change you want to be. Don't complain that other people aren't doing what you want. You're welcome to fuck right the fuck off if you don't like it.

>>28786814
>giant thread where we talk about the appeal or lack there of of anon stories
you seem to be in the wrong thread.
If you can't handle the bantz why don't you just make like a tree and get the fuck out?

>>28786760
>because they think his science is bullshit
That's less about Anon and more "how would these characters react to alien concepts." Anon just becomes the catalyst to introduce that concept.

>>28786760
Take that image for example. It portrays "Anon" as cute and quirky children instead of the unwashed, obese neckbearded spergs /mlp/tards actually are. That's just a clear sign of how deluded anonfags actually are.

>>28786831
Its not banter you fucking idiot. Its called having a debate.

And again, you're just spouting bullshit.

I'm not in the wrong thread, i didn't know this was an anon hate echo chamber you fucking imbecile.

I'm gonna defend the writers on this board because the people making complaints can't even put a fucking proper argument together that isn't substantiated by their own personal opinion.

Its literally just a bigger version of stop liking what I don't like.

There are hundreds of threads a week and you sit here complaining about a character that is used in thousands of different ways.

Its obvious that you don't read any of the stories here, just complain about them. So again, if you hate this board so much, why are you even here?

How about that for bantz you fucking retard. Go fucking neck yourself.

>>28786814
I'd like to play devil's advocate here and use the turn your brain off argument, for the comfy slice of life stories, they're only meant to be fluff.

CYOA's are shitty at their worst because most people have shitty ideas and hilarious at their best because people have shitty ideas.
The writer's behind them only have so much to work with.

I will agree that most Anonfics don't have an Anon that is worth stopping the show's progression in it's tracks.
When a single character is brought to the real world, Anon still goes to work and lives his life, there's no reason the other way around should be any different, at least with the main characters.

>>28786842
Okay then, it's a shitty story concept introduced by a shitty Mary Sue.

>>28786956
You sound like you need a stress doll, an imagination, and a reminder of exactly the kind of show you're watching.

So have a (You).

>>28786089
This pretty much sums up my thoughts. Don't get why people hate AoE so much.

>>28786842
>despite the fact that its always anon as the "catalyst" I will maintain the delusion that we just want the result
if you just wanted the result you would choose less of an ass pull way to get it.

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>>28786939
>durr debate
your entire contribution to my facts was to say "if you don't like it don't read it"
you aren't participating in this debate so go kill yourself.

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>>28785840

Because it's secretly you and you're treated like a king.

>>28787090
shhhh you'll hurt the delusional faggots who think there is any other reason.

>>28787070
How is taking someone from earth to explain earth science to ponies an ass pull of introducing science?
Would you rather it be a "Neil Degrasse Tyson in equestria, what happens" thread?
The only pony who may know is Time turner, but there we go stopping the canon it its tracks again with a background pony this time.

>>28787083
Read this post. Then tell me I said nothing but that. You need to fucking open your stupid eyes and read for once.
>>28786251

Also, you haven't brought up any "facts" about anything. Please show me your posts so I can see these "facts".

Oh wait, there are no facts here, besides the fact that you made this thread to complain about a writing medium that has been here since the board was made.

I'm curious, how long have you been here exactly? I've been here since /co/. I'm sure you have too right?

>>28787070
>>28787097
>durr delusion
Oh great, now we're into buzzwords.

I like how your little circlejerk of anti-anons think you have reason when you listen to none. And yes, you are a certified circlejerk like every green general on this board.

So instead of pretending there's anything new to talk about, let's just get right to objective of the thread, shall we? I'll start:

>>28787083
no u

>>28787083
You haven't said a fucking thing besides mock others. Why don't you take your own advice and fucking brutally kill yourself. The world would be a much better place if you simply slit your fucking throat in front of your entire family.

Also
>70 replies, 26 posters

Stop pretending you're different people you fucking retard. I know its just you complaining. Grow the fuck up and get an actual argument besides personal opinion.

>>28786760
>>28786814
>>28786831
>>28786939
>>28787097
>>28787153
>>28787143
>>28787156
Oh, are we just shitflinging now? I could have sworn this was meant to be a discussion.

>>28786039
This is a valid point.
People are writing what's popular.

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>>28787153

>circlejerk
>anti-anons

Count me down as neither of those. I posted the spoiler anon was replying to, and I genuinely enjoy those stories, but I fully know why I enjoy them. And it's not because "Anon" gets to pet pretty mares.

>>28787121
>Would you rather it be a "Neil Degrasse Tyson in equestria, what happens" thread?
That sounds infinitely better, and you know it. Starting with the fact that NDT is actually a renowned scientist and not some dumb waifufag with his hand permanently on his dick.

>>28787272
>Implying that thread won't die after 2 replies.

>>28787293
Depends. It sounds like it could work as a comedy, though it probably wouldn't have any longevity.

>>28785868
Pretty much this

>>28787143
>tell me I said nothing but that
nothing you said is more meaningful than your true feelings on the matter. if you wanted your post to be taken seriously, you shouldn't have advertised your inability to remain even a little bit impartial. You told me to get out and stop complaining, then I told you correctly that this is a thread where these thoughts are intended to be shared, then you insisted that you did more than that. You have not. I have brought up facts. its your fualt for being ignorant of them.

>>28787293
oh you know it will, because of the aformentioned lack of >>28787272
dick holding, and for polfags, because NDT is black.

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>>28787156
>I haven';t done shit but mock others
wow, an anonfag doesn't know the difference between mocking and criticism. You are a fucking ass clown. that is mocking. Leave it to autism the board to not handle any criticism of their expert story fanfiction green texts about waifu fugging.

>>28787352
WHERE ARE THESE FACTS? PLEASE LINK TO THEM.

All you did was talk shit and then have other people talk shit to you. Are you mentally challenged?

>>28787359
Criticism? telling someone to kill themself is not criticism. Why is it you anti-anon fags have to make complete fucking asses of yourselves.

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>>28787359
>self-awareness: the post

I greentext writefag because it's fun to write obscure things that don't have to be super serious unlike actual fan fiction, and second person is a fun perspective.

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>>28787392
>cherry picking
yes, clearly I told them that BEFORE they told me that if I didn't like it, I should leave mlp in a thread ABOUT this topic.

>>28787392
>please link me them.
have a spoon. no more than one.
>>28786760

>>28787394
Indeed, when are any of you fucks going to gather some self awareness. Screaming like sperging autistic children when your paper thin attention whore and fap fic self inserts are not viewed as the 'proper and enlightened' literature you morons seem to demand they be treated as. or else you need to leave the board. Clearly it's somehow me who is lacking self awareness, It couldn't be the board full of people who can't handle criticism of their special secret fapfics.

>>28785883
>Anon is in them because 1) When I arrived that's what everyone was doing
Tradition is a significant reason for the continued use of Anon. He's 4chan's definitive blank slate character, and forms the lube for which we can ease our minds into a story. He's an instantly recognizable every-man.
>If you just replaced 'Anon' with 'Kevin' or something it'd be the same
False.

>>28786039
Speak for yourself. I, for one, do exactly read anonfics because they involve ponies. Human characters are in the majority of literature, for obvious reasons, so even shitty horse fiction can be like a breath of fresh air.

>>28786233
Desensitization. You're becoming desensitized to existing characters making you seek new interpretations of them, or new situations, or simply new characters altogether for additional stimulus.

>>28786253
Greentext is an acquired taste. As >>28786320 showed, most common greentexts strip out unnecessary verbiage in favor of quick, easily understandable feelings. They're a perfect tool for putting your errant thoughts into a consumable form for other anons. Another thread claimed they're the fast-food of storytelling, which is an appropriate analogy.

>>28786422
Gr8 b8 m8. Greentexts are a core part of /mlp/'s culture and identity. Banning greentext is tantamount to removing part of /mlp/'s soul.

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>>28786682
You are a god king, good sir. This is the reason why I don't bother.

If I had the time, I would weave a story that would make your eyes bleed.

But right now, I'm working seven days a week. And have been for a while. I don't have the energy for it.

So does anyone have any greentext that fit this criteria of anon as a character, not just a wish fulfillment husk so I can bookmark it for later when I have the time?

breath darn you
hyah!

>>28785913
The autism is strong here, fellas

>>28789345
ADD was recently labeled as a for of autism, so yes it is.

Pray tell Anon, did you read the other things I said?