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>Literally Dragon Ball Z garbage How did this autistic

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>Literally Dragon Ball Z garbage

How did this autistic shit get greenlit?
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>>28749924
>literal autistic mongoloid
How did doctors greenlight your birth?
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>>28749924
>watching anything after season 1
>implying that dbz was garbage
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>>28749941
are we doing this again? alright, i'll join in

>watching anything after episode 1
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>>28749924
At least it's better than slice of life with no slice of life...
>>28749941
Implying S1 didn't have adventure and/or lore building episodes
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Magic lasers are one of the laziest plot devices in the show. All the magical power in the world, and you're telling me the best they can do is fire a laser like they're trying to club each other over the head with a baseball bat? Where's the creativity? Where's the spectacle? It's fucking boring to watch, and it's every unicorns default response to fighting. I hate it.
Even fucking Dungeon and Dragons never went so far as to give their wizards lasers.
Ignoring beams like Ray of Frost, of course.

Is it too much to ask for my magic to seem mystical?
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>>28750021
>time stop
>cast 4 irresistible phantasmal killers
I mean, they want the battles to seem exciting
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>>28750034
I'm not saying that MLP literally needs to adopt Vancian magic, I just want something more creative than 'character shoots a laser, then the other guy does, then one of them gets thrown through a building, then they both shoot a laser." We've seen magic do some amazing things in canon, but whenever it's used for a fight, it always defaults to a simple laser. I mean, for fucks sake, Twilight literally DID cast time stop at one point, she can do something more impressive than a red and white laser. It's lazy.
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>>28750046
>time stop

So you're wanting OP abilities?
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>>28750047
Well, Discord casts Wish or maybe even Alter Reality at will...

Speaking of, the finale all but confirmed Changelings are psionic, since they had a giant AMF artifact.
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>>28750047
I want creativity. If that means OP abilities, than yes. Understand that I'd prefer to keep OP abilities on the down low and out of the usual show, but when someone is literally channeling all the magic in the world, yes, I want something impressive and OP.

Hell, go full Jojo and have the villain break out of time stop, it'll show he's much more powerful than if you'd just had him shoot a coloured laser at someone.

I don't understand how someone can watch something like Glimmer duplicating herself, and then be happy with magic lasers. Magic should be more than a baseball bat you use to beat enemies down with, it should be creative and flexible.
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>>28749924
Remember anon the show is for little girls and they aren't action hating hipsters like you.
That said
>>28750021
I do agree with this to an extent.
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>>28750021
Budget and time constraints.

Alright fine, it adds a unnecessary of explanation needed. It's much easier and simpler to just have them show off lasers. For a decent fight between reality warpers (at first) Genie vs. Jafar from Aladdin II was pretty good.
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>>28749924
>Dragon Ball Z
>garbage
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>>28750062
I want more than twilight and pink twilight having all the magic to themselves.
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>>28750263
Would you feel better if we saw other unicorns perform similar feats, or is it their actual power level that annoys you?
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>>28750287
Both.
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>>28750308
If it's their power level that annoys you, surely having other unicorns achieve that power is a bad thing?
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>>28750021
>what is disintegration ray
>scortching ray
>prismatic ray
>hellfire ray,
fuck theres probably even more. definately plenty of RA attacks which are just pulsed lazers
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>>28750320
I'd rather have more balanced characters. This is like if harry potter was the only wizard who could do spells, and everyone else was shit.
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>>28750336
Beams are different because I'm autistic and don't want to be proven wrong. Even though I'm clearly wrong.
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>>28750337
I'm going to put a controversial opinion here, but I'd say that everyone in the mane six is balanced. Sure, Twilight is magically gifted, but that's her talent. It's like calling Rainbow unbalanced because she flies fast, or Pinkie unbalanced because she operates on toon logic. Everyone in the main six has a talent that they're better at than the others. It doesn't make them overpowered because of it.

Granted, she's had more opportunities to use her magic, and the vague rules to it makes it seem broken at times, but she is the 'leader' of the mane 6. It makes sense for her to have more of a focus than the rest of the cast and thus, more times to shine and appear powerful.
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>>28750542
Twilight and pink Twilight are more magical than everyone by a thousand degrees, all of the unicorns are utterly useless shit by comparison. I think this qualifies as overpowered.
>It's like calling Rainbow unbalanced because she flies fast
No, I'm not contesting talent. I'm saying there's a line between talented and bullshit.
>but she is the 'leader' of the mane 6
Harry was also the main character, but he wasn't infinitely above his friends and the rest of the wizards. The plot didn't need to bend over to make others useful.
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>>28749924
There was nothing about that fight unique to DBZ. It was just fantasy combat in general.

Now, if the fight had Twilight and Tirek locking into animation loops of punches and kicks, sure. If it had phasing and after-imaging, sure. But what we got was lasers.

And if you're going to try and tell me that lasers are unique to DBZ, then I have some bad news for you, friend.
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>>28750192
>Implying DBZ isn't just for children
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>>28750602
>Taking the "DBZ" complaint literally
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>>28750614
>I-I was just pretending to be retarded, I swear!
How is it supposed to be taken, then? Metaphorically? Because that's bullshit, too.

If you're going to sit there and bitch and moan about it being too "DBZ" for you, then don't be surprised when someone points out that it's, well, not.
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>>28750569
>Twilight and pink Twilight are more magical than everyone by a thousand degrees,

Which would be a problem if anyone else in the cast was trying to be magical. Luckily, they all have other roles to fill. Roles that Twilight and her magic can't fulfill.

Twilight was trained by a god, went to a school for magic, and then became a god. She's earned her magical power. Glimmer is a Mary Sue, she's also earned her power. You can't compare them to the average run of the mill unicorn, any more than you can point at Rainbow and go 'look, all the other pegasi are shit in comparison.' It doesn't work like that.

>Harry was also the main character, but he wasn't infinitely above his friends
My point isn't that Twilight is the main character and therefore deserves to be stronger, my point is that because she's the main character, we see her use her talent much more often, the thing she's good at, and therefore it seems like she's more unbalanced than she is.
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>>28750641
Adding on to this. Is Twilight overpowered? Yes. Is she balanced? Also yes.

Just wanted to be clear on what we're arguing about here. I agree Twilight is overpowered, but I believe that she is balanced regardless. I understand this could be confusing since I've been using unbalanced and overpowered interchangeably, and I apologize.
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>>28750061
No Anon, the finale confirmed that the writers would make terrible game masters.
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>>28750697
>"Alright, so how many mages are there in the party?"
>"Three. And one psionic."
>"Oh boy, you're all gonna have a good time tonight."
>"Why's that?"
>"Oh, no reason."
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>>28750632
>>I-I was just pretending to be retarded, I swear!
How the fuck does that apply here? Are you fucking new? Have you been living under a rock and never seen people use the "DBZ" complaint? Do you also take the "power battery" complaint about Friendship Games literally too?

It refers to the idea that the show does something over the top and nonsensical in an action seen, and doing so is not in the tone of how FiM typically is. These complaints are typically made about the finales, notably S4. I'm not even OP, but if that concept escapes you, then you're either dense, or new. Pick one.
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>>28750708
>mage
>not sorcerer

You fucked it up.
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The fundamental issue is that (unicorn/alicorn...sometimes all) magic is very loosely defined.

Anything can happen just for the sake of plot regarding its use, really. There aren't any limitations stopping it beyond plot.
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>>28749924
Why do you autists hate this so much?
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>>28750718
>How the fuck does that apply here?
Because you're claiming that you're knowingly making a facetious statement for the sake of comedy/brevity, when in actuality it' you being a brain-dead maroon.

>Have you been living under a rock and never seen people use the "DBZ" complaint?
No. That's why I make a habit of calling it out.

>These complaints are typically made about the finales, notably S4.
They are exclusively leveled at the S4 season finale. Don't make shit up.

I am sorry that having your silly and invalid 'criticism' called out triggers you. Better go run to your safe space.
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>>28749924
Becuase there are shitters who would and did eat it up. Best Night Ever is still the best finale 6 seasons later.
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>>28749957
>watching anything
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>>28750747
I don't really know. Everybody loved it when it came out but then like a week later everybody decided to hate it.
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>>28750855
>Best night ever is the best season finale

I bet magical mystery cure is your second favourite
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>>28750854
i like you
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>>28750614
>Taking the "DBZ" complaint literally

>>28749924
>Literally Dragon Ball Z garbage

Jesus Christ.
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I want Dragon Ball Z shit out of my horse show.
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>>28750602
>Overpowered characters throwing each other through mountains and firing kamehamehas isn't DBZ.

What ever makes you sleep at night, friend.
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>>28750854
>No. That's why I make a habit of calling it out.
>They are exclusively leveled at the S4 season finale. Don't make shit up.
If you've never seen the complaint before, how the flying fuck do you know it's exclusively used against the S4 finale?

Nice going, retard.
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>>28750602
>Literally become Super Sand Lesbians at the end
>Hurr durr it's not DBZ
I bet you love Starlight Glimer too.
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>>28750718
>the show does something over the top and nonsensical in an action seen,

>Twilight lifting a Ursa Minor as a unicorn
>Fluttershy's kung fu message.
>Dashie kicks a dragon
>Rarity listen to "Mama Said Knock You Out" way to much as a child.
>Gattling gun Twilight, and the whole wedding in general
>Magic Duel

Wow look at all of these over the top scenes, and you still cry about one.
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>>28750857
>using your eyes
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>>28751023
None of those are over the top DBZ tier. Stop grasping at straws. The worst one you have is the wedding, which I would also argue was not necessary.
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>>28750946
>cant read
>calls an anon out for being retarded
its more likely than you think.
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Why is no one happy that they got to continue to troll /a/ about it being just like their Chinese cartoons?
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>>28751039
how should a fight between two powerful magical entities look? harry potter vs voltemort?
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>>28749924
I liked it
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>muh friendship hugbox

Since you hate quality, I can see why you hate dbz, adventure and world building.

But by all means, continue with badly written SoL and 0 character progression.
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>>28751057
Like /a/ would care about a generic no-rules laser battle that can be referenced to modern western cartoons just as easily as their chinese flipbooks
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>>28751083
That's what they want. It keeps their waifus from changing on them and doesn't screw up their headcanons.
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>>28751083
>people unironically miss 'hey guys, whose ready to see fluttershy learn to be assertive again?'
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>>28751041
>I have nothing left to contribute, better just make it a smug reaction image competition.
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>>28751039
So how is S4 DBZ tier because of lasers? As someone who actually watch most of the DB series, let me enlighten you.

>Twilight lifting a Ursa Minor as a unicorn
Goku was able to pick up huge shit suchs as boulders and bears even as a child. Twilight as a unicorn manage to pick up a bear and a boulder.

>Fluttershy's kung fu message.
Yes, kung fu used as a message is a joke in DB series.

>Dashie kicks a dragon
Goku kicks a dragon as a child.

>Rarity listen to "Mama Said Knock You Out" way to much as a child
Before "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" This was how most fight in DB were.

>Gattling gun Twilight, and the whole wedding in general
There are rapid fire attacks in the DB series, and a bunch of beating up nameless goons

>Magic Duel
The DB series also has someone getting a massive power up through items, and they still lose

Wow, now that I think about it, MLP is just a reskin of DB through DBZ. Thanks for opening my eyes anon.
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>>28751083
>Needing explosions and lasers to stay interested in the series.
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>>28751114
>implying samefag
>damage control
try rereading, very slowly.
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>>28750569
Just look at it like stat distributions. Twilight is that munchkin who minmaxes all her shit for raw power. Rarity puts it more into CHA and WIS, Rainbow mostly DEX, and so on.

In an outright battle, dex and magic are going to win, but when it's time for diplomacy a bard's a nice addition to have around.

>>28750739
This is a good point as well, though I'd rather leave it vague than have someone like Vogel define it. It felt very goofy and forced when he tried to do it in Every Little Thing She Does.
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>>28751119
>Kung fu message
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>>28751142
Yes anon, not everything about kung fu in that show is legit.
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>>28751157
massage*
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>>28750021
>he thinks season 6 was good
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>>28751126
Well it's hard for me to read your posts if you're going to type like a little kid who can't be bothered to use apostrophes or capitalize letters.
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>>28751160
Shhh I'm trying to save face.
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>>28751170
>still implying samefag
jesus christ mang.
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>>28751164
season 6 was okay
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>>28751119
Only the S4 finale, during that ridiculous fight scene. Not everyone is insecure in watching the series and needs things to call it "cool" and "badass". Same with the S5 finale.
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>>28751175
Still doesn't excuse the fact that you type like a fucking child.
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>>28751182
There was nothing about the S4 finale that was particularly DBZ-ish. This is nothing but a fallacy that kiddies use to say "I don't like thing."
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>>28751182
So did you not watch S1-3?

Season 1
>Friendship is Magic, part 1&2
>Boast Busters
>Dragonshy
>Swarm of the Century
>Sonic Rainboom
>Stare Master
>A Dog and Pony Show
>Over a Barrel

Season 2
>The Return of Harmony Part 1&2
>May the Best Pet Win!
>The Mysterious Mare Do Well
>Secret of My Excess
>Dragon Quest
>Hurricane Fluttershy
>A Canterlot Wedding - Part 1&2

Season 3
>The Crystal Empire - Part 1&2
>Magic Duel
>Wonderbolts Academy
>Spike at Your Service
>Just for Sidekicks
>Magical Mystery Cure
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>>28751194
still doesnt excuse the fact youre a fucking illiterate twat who cant tell the difference between
>>28750854
and
>>28751194
and couldnt even read that first post to begin with. stop damage controlling and go wallow in your shame.
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>>28751196
>>28751196
In this sea of shitposts, at least let me try to explain my viewpoint seriously for once. And keep in mind I'm not OP.

I don't know about everyone else, I say DBZ as a joke, but of course I'm referring to over the top action with lasers and explosions in the show. No, I didn't like the S4 finale, I didn't think it fit. I don't think it works well in the series, and I think it tried too hard to be edgy and cool. I don't feel that way about GoH, because I like how it's taking a more fantasy approach for the most part, and involving everyone, not just lasers, throwing through mountains, blowing up buildings and such. I didn't like S5's finale because again, it looked like it tried too hard to be cool with the alternate timelines and such, especially the war one, which came off as fanfiction.

>>28751224
You seem like you're just listing every episode with action, I'm confused. I never said action is bad.
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>>28751231
Again, maybe I'd be able to read a little better if you weren't typing in class. Are you sure teacher won't find out?

I already accepted you're a different person, I figured that out already, dipshit. My bad. I guess my first giveaway should have been the fact that you still can't type for shit, making it difficult to understand what the fuck you're saying. Are you 12? Why the fuck did you link my post twice? Do you not know what a capital letter is?

Just get your ass back to class.
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>>28751277
>still damage controlling
did you accept the fact you called someone retarded because you couldnt fucking read his well written, capitalized, punctuated post?
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>>28751285
Ah, I should have known this level of stupidity could only come from a Dashfag.
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>>28751302
>still
>damage
>controlling
>people only save reaction images of their waifus
this is getting sad. cant you just admit you misread the post, say my bad, and move on? you coulda saved like 30 minutes of replying to the wrong guy and looking like an actual idiot.
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>>28751316
It's actually more so your behavior. It pretty much tells it. Especially the way you just scream "DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL" like a little kid who just learned the word.

Besides, aren't you wasting just as much time?
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>>28749924
It was a really disappointing episode desu
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>>28751265
And yet S4 final is bad because it is "cool" and "badass", but S1-3 gets a pass because?
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>>28751339
>It's actually more so your behavior. It pretty much tells it.
i call apples apples. you keep damage controlling, so i keep calling it out. my behavior was me calling you an idiot for calling someone else retarded because of a mistake you made, and you getting all defensive and petty over it.

negative, im playin vidya on my other monitor. this did make farming go by a bit faster for me, so thanks.
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>>28751347
You missed my point. There's a very clear difference in action and tone, maybe with the exception of Chrysalis. Which again, I'd say isn't good either. Especially since that pretty much welcomed all the other explosion-tier stuff
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alright, so how many people here hate the DBZ stuff because they believe it doesnt belong in a little girls show?

you realize this is exactly the stigma faust was fighting against, right?
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>>28751347
they don't, people still love to shit on ACW and MMC

people eventually came around on BNE but it was still pretty underwhelming
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>>28751355
You're acting extremely childish as opposed to the original Anon, who clearly has moved on. You're the one trying to make this into something petty by continuously posting le ebin reaction images xDDD while screaming damage control. Again, acting like an obnoxious child. So do everyone a favor and fuck off.
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>>28751095
yet you bitched about her personality change.
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>>28751382
>still fucking damage controlling
>le ebin argument
reaction images are always used. adding le ebin before something isnt an argument.
youre being petty because instead of admitting you fucked up, WHICH YOU STILL HAVENT ADMITTED TO, you decided to try to tear me down by saying hurr durr you dont type well so i cunt read it; all while ignoring the fact you misread a well typed post, not mine.
its very childish to call someone a child when they tell you that you fucked and you cant even act grown up enough to take it. no, instead you descended into a stupid argument full of backpedaling and damage control, in which you are still fighting, rather than lose a tiny bit of pride for being an asshole who got called out on his shit.

in fact, let me sum it up since youre clearly ready to keep this up until the thread falls off the board.
>Anon makes a good argument calling out memers with a well written post
>Idiot (you) replies to him, calling him retarded for something (you) misread
>I make a reply saying youre the one who fucked up
>damage control full of "oh ya well you write stupid" insults ensue rather than (you) behaving like an adult and admitting you misread it
i wasnt in the wrong for calling you out on mistakenly calling someone else out. you are the fucking child for coming up with a whole bunch of unrelated shit to try to discredit me or something as if it would somehow magically undo your own fuck up. it wont. you fucked up, you cant admit you fucked up because youre a petty faggot, and im done replying.

now i need to go find someone more interesting to argue with.
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>>28751437
>Well typed out
Oh for the love of Christ stop saying that as if it's an achievement. You're the one who just can't fucking write.

Fine, you know what? Yes, I did misread it. Yes I did fuck up. There. I'm a fucking faggot who is insecure and can't admit it. I'm having a shitty day in my shitty life and I just decided to resort to shitpostimg to try to ignore it. Fine. There. Fuck you. Sorry I derailed this shit.
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>>28751360
No I get the point, you don't like the S4 final. And you know what, that's fine. In fact>>28750021 isn't wrong. With all the magical power that Twilight had, all they could come up with is I'M A' FIRIN' MAH LAZER!! is stupid and weak. But Really, action and tone are different? No not really sense people did this before S3 was a thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bjkM_y-Wps.

>>28751369
>they don't, people still love to shit on ACW
No people don't shit on AWC, except for those that love to spout that S1-2 was never good meme, and BNE is the highest rated episode fo the whole series.
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>>28751031
>existing
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Think about this in terms of a real-world fight. Are you going to waste time and effort trying for fancy, over-the-top moves or are you going to stick to punches and kicks?
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>Magic Duel managed to pull off 'two magically powered charcters going against each other' much better.
>Yet autists here clap like seals over a fanfiction-tier turd that Hasbro had kill the treebrary for the sake of a castle so ugly it makes brutalist architecture look passable in comparison.
This is why most of 4chan would still hate us if the board was about some other show that wasn't about MLP (or of anything with the notion of girly).
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>>28751699
>Magic Duel
wait, back up.
so what youre saying is you wanted tirek, this huge evil tyrant who eats magic, to stand around and have a dick measuring contest peacefully with twilight?

should we remake saving private ryan where all the soldiers run up to each other and engage in rock paper scissors?
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>>28751699

Comparing Magic Duel with the Tirek fight is apples and oranges.

Magic Duel is exactly that. It was a contest to see who was more magically-capable; that was the entire point of it.

With Tirek, they were just focused with beating the shit out of each other. Completely different circumstances lead to very different battles.
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>>28750047
>So you're wanting OP abilities
>What are the Elements
>What is Rainbow Power
>What is the Crystal Heart
>What is whatever happened at the end of Season 2
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>>28751792
>What are the Elements
harmony incarnate as far as anyone can tell.
>What is Rainbow Power
a manifestation of said harmony
>What is the Crystal Heart
a relic made from ancient magic to protect the empire from the frozen north supposedly powered by the same type of magic we see in hearthswarming eve
>What is whatever happened at the end of Season 2
a semipermeable magical force field extended out in a bubble shape powered by love
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>>28751792
A lot of those kinds of questions can be summarised with, "Where the fuck did the Tree of Harmony come from?" The cutie map, the elements, rainbow power -- it all ties back to the tree.
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>>28750021
I agree, magic was a lot more interesting in the show before they added lasers, I think we could have had a lot of cool and imaginative different confrontations if they hadn't just started employing "use laser, use force field to block laser" and nothing else.
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>>28751472
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>>28750612
But mlp is also for children.
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>>28755320
>Saving this thread from the bottom of the board.

Nigger, you better have a reason for this.
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>>28751943
>diapers in fog
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>>28749924
>How did this autistic shit get greenlit?
I often ask the same thing about when Faust pitched season 1
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>>28755330
What's it to you buddy?
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>>28750864
>Holy shit, this is awesome!
>(wait, if I admit I unironically like something from the show, the other anons will hate me)
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>>28749924
The real question is, would she win a beam showdown with this thing?
Or what dbz characters would they stand a chance of beating?
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>>28750864
thats because its uncool to like something. i promise every single faggot here was like jax in bronies react when they watched it air live.
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>>28755881
Krillin solos
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>>28755881
yamcha
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>>28755881
>would she win a beam showdown with this thing?
Kid Buu was the strongest enemy Goku faced (according to Super) and KB was just screwing around for 99% of their fight, so, no.
Picking from any of the active/past Z fighters, and assuming they're in their prime, none of the ponies would stand a chance against any of them.
Even Yamcha, his sole role basically being to get whooped by the bad guy of the week and then become irrelevant, would most likely be too strong for them.
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>>28756262
But then this happens?
Twilight and glimmer are considered rivals right?
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>>28756262
>comparing magic to chi
we dont know how the two forces would interact. maybe buu could die to a regular magic beam, well never know.
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>>28756427
Babidi was a wizard, and he had a little control over him. And buu was supposed to be made up of pure evil, so the elements would probably hurt him a bit.
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>>28756446
>Babidi was a wizard
did he use real magic? even if he did, its not comparable to equestrian magic.
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>>28756456
Why isn't it comparable? He could teleport people around, he had slight mind control powers, telepathy. That's all I can remember atm but I think both him and buu could transmute things. Doesn't sound too much different from pony magic.
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>Twilight's Kingdom is on right now
hue
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>>28749924
Do you honestly believe that the show had any genuine ideas that weren't used before?
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>>28749924
It was the worst and maybe even last season at that point, Not even McCarthy gave a shit anymore, maybe they did it to pander to the "adult audiences". Then S5 got greenlit and started to actually put effort again.
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>>28749924
Looking back, I thought it was a little juvenile and silly considering what the show always stood for

But I still squealed like a little girl watching that battle
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>>28749924
>2016
>Complaining about the Twilight vs. Tirek battle
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>>28755382
OK YOU WIN THIS TIME
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