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ITT: sort of reading, kind of reviewing, writing (sike!), recommendations, dead regulars and the good old times, depression, riffs, annon put in rape and discord sent her through a portal, decent HiEs, the APC ending, I'll have you know I've seen a girl recently, writing on drugs, a TF2 crossover, historical HiEs, second day: 0 words, it's always the fucking Germans, ForcedMemeHorse in EdgyLand, how to write good characters, the feature box, the return of Andre, Mythril Moth should just stay unconscious, and weirdly enough, the thread didn't turn into a shitfest for the last 50 posts this time.

Tired of tracking stories that never get updated again? Still waiting for the feature box to showcase a good fic? Well, we've compiled the best of the worst in order to bring you our absolute average!

>FiMFiction Starter Kit (recommended fics):
Winners:
http://i.imgur.com/vuTA7EN.png
List of nominees by category:
http://mlp-fanfics.herokuapp.com/

>How do I write fanfiction?
Ezn’s guide - https://eznguide.neocities.org/
Politics and the English Language - https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/
Vhatug's tips for anatomically correct clop - https://pastebin.com/g4VpEg4f
Setting a story in motion - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufO8LbwTdu0

>Can you pre-read my story?
Post it on Google Docs with inline comments enabled and give us a link. Someone will take a look at it eventually.

>Reviews and riffs:
https://pastebin.com/u/notkickass222urmom

>Voiceguy's readings:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt68MpmvEketmqOdHncHI2w

Old thread: >>28440182
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Would you look at that, September is about to be over.

Now that three quarters of the year are gone, it's time to reflect. How are you faring in your horsewords output?
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>>28536868
>second day: 0 words
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>>28536868
0 words
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Now that the fandom is kill, where can I go to feel like part of a writers community again? Maybe an animeme website?
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>>28537274
You could always write highly specific erotica in Amazon for pennies at a month.
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>>28537295
Honestly, I wouldn't mind writing doujin... But I can't draw.
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>>28536868
This has probably been my most productive year yet. I think a good 1/3 of my stories have been written in the past year.
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>>28537274
/r/writing
not even joking
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>>28536868
I'm worse than ever. But I can attempt to justify it by the fact that I'm somewhat productive in other fields.

>>28537295
>tfw you will never make a living writing about girls fucking dinosaurs
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>>28537328
Never been to Reddit. What kind of stuff do they write about?
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>>28537340
That sub is for writing in general - tips, questions, sharing good feels etc. Most of them publish their stuff on Amazon, and a few people even earn a fair amount of dosh out of writing fetish smut and shared tips on how to do it.
If you want a place where you can actually write, read, post shit and receive feedback, apparently /r/writingprompts is pretty good?
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>>28537369
Well... Maybe... I'm still kinda hesitant about the whole Reddit thing. Are there any websites that are as good as fimfiction? Not fanfiction.net
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>>28537391
well theres always fictiondick

kek
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>>28537391
Reddit's advantage is having populated subreddits dedicated to even the tiniest of hobbies or interests. If you don't want to deal with the stereotypical redditor, avoid the bigger subs and /r/all.

>Are there any websites that are as good as fimfiction?
No. It's either ff.net or tumblr.
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>>28537411
Well... If those are my options...
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>>28537437
yeah ffnet suddenly doesnt seem so bad, eh?
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>Fimfiction thread

>Literally discussing how to move on from the very site.

Pathetic and sad.
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>>28537461
It's either this or the nth gun debate.

Plus, we're at least thinking ahead.
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>>28537461
If only it were 2012 again...
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>>28537461
Just helping out, man. I'm not planning to move anytime soon.
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>>28537411
What about that Archive of Our Own place?
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>>28537476
Say it 'is' 2012 again...

Just for the sake of having something to talk about.

If you could come back to your first day in FiMFiction, with all the knowledge you have right now, what would you do regarding horsewords?
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>>28537494
Wasn't that for original fiction? Or am I getting confused with another site?
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>>28537505
I would write more, I would write better, and I would throw out the occasional fan-pandering story. Then at least I'd have a place again.
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I TRIED SO HARD AND GOT SO FAR, BUT IN THE END, IT DIDN'T EVEN MATTER!
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>>28537505
Not much.
Now if I came back to 2011, I'd write FoE myself and get all the horsefame.
I'd also write My Little Dashie and Past Sins, except even worse, just to prevent their respective authors from writing them.
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>>28537411
>ff.net
Why is this serving malware and ads.
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>>28537572
cheers for the spoilers lad
fucking twat
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>>28537624
Fuck if I know.
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>>28536868
I wrote a lot. Noone of it has gotten serious recognition.
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>>28537505
I would do exactly the same.
I would spend all my time reading again because good stories make me happy and my life is pretty well on track regardless.

Maybe I'd have payed a tiny little bit more attention in my classes instead of literally pulling out my phone and spending all year reading. But not by much.

Never written anything, don't think I'll ever be able to.
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>>28537505
Write Blankness in its entirety before posting it.

It may cost me whatever meagre amount of followers I have amassed, but the thought of living guilt-free is enthralling.
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>>28537505
I would've written "A She-Devil in Plain Sight" right away and try to take the lead in the Foalcon community.
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>ywn have 1k+ followers
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>>28537505
Run away and never come back.
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>>28536868
Better than it's ever been. I wrote and published my first story to reasonable reception, and managed to crap out another 40k-50k horsewords in unfinished/abandoned projects. I'm currently working on something for /pa/ and have temporarily suspended two of my projects pending some reflection on the premises and waiting to see what canon does. (I've written myself into a corner for my future Sunlight fic, and Legends of Everfree sort of went the opposite direction of my story, so I'm trying to figure out if I should take inspiration from it or just completely ignore it since I'm writing an AU that branches off before Friendship Games anyways. My unicorn A-Team fic is on hold until the Season 6 finale, since the description sounds kind of similar to what I want to do and I want to see how the show handles it.)

All in all, a good year for horsewords. My non-pony stuff suffered a lot, but them's the brakes.
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>>28537628
That's from Friendship Games. If you still haven't seen it, I don't think you ever will.
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>>28537505
Skip reading Past Sins.

>>28539328
You can never escape in any reality.
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>>28537505
not read Displaced stories
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>>28536757
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>Take advice to write whatever I want to beat writers block

>Story gets downvotes

>Try to make a quality story.

>Cant write past the few hundred words and inevitably forget or am unable to continue.

I'm cursed.
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>>28541387

The "write whatever to beat writer's block" part only applies to creating a rough draft. Once you have that, you still have to actually edit the damn thing, and I don't just mean "run it through a spellchecker." I mean, you have to go through the story and FIX it, make it coherent, add or delete scenes and characters, that sort of thing.

Luckily, that part's easy, once you've got a completed rough draft. It's not as much fun as writing, but the payoff is that you have a quality story to publish.

Lots of people try to write a quality story on the first write-through. A few even succeed. Most would be better off writing a draft without worrying about quality, and then shining it up over multiple revisions later.
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>>28538710
>ywn disappoint 1k+ people
feels bad
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>>28540175
To this day I still cant quite grasp the concept of displaced.

If you want to write a self insert HiE, go for it. Thousands of others have done it so whats one more crapfest?

If you want to write Xcharacter in equestria, do that and use the disgusting crossover tag.

I can only conclude that displaced exists as a genre simply because even the lowest of the low admit that crossovers are more cancerous than self inserts, but is that it or is there more to it?
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>>28536868
Abysmally. Last year was so much better...

>>28537340
>Never been to Reddit
It's basically a more heavily moderated 4chan.

>>28537391
UI-wise, I haven't encountered one. Deviantart's total shit, Fiction Press is fanfiction.net, Archive of Our Own will be in beta longer than DayZ will, and LiveJournal is Tumblr's dad.

>>28537505
I wouldn't freak out when my multichapter fic I wanted to update once in a blue moon and had no plans for suddenly gets featured and has 1000+ upvotes.

Then I wouldn't get burned out trying to focus solely on writing it and instead work on multiple stories at once to keep things fresh.

>>28537514
AOOO is the Organization for Transformative Works' (yes, there is a fanfic NGO) fanfiction website. It's been in beta longer than Gen 4's been around.
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>>28537622
>I'd also write My Little Dashie, except even worse,
is such a thing even possible to do while remaining coherent?
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>>28542612
It's because it combines the two.
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>>28543853
people would create double cancer by combining self insertions with crossovers? No. No one could ever be so foolhardy to do such a thing intentionally
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>>28544539
Think again, buddy.
Not only does it let them self-insert into MLP and write a crossover at the same time, it also allows them to insert themselves into the fictional character of their choosing, so they can pretend they're as cool as that character.
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>>28544585
I could see your point if any of these people ever chose actual cool characters in their little girl fanfiction.

However most of the ones i've had the misfortune to encounter, the main character was always a cheap ripoff of some very obscure animu shit that i had to google to have any idea of who it was supposed to be.

Which sadly still seems preferable to 'emo loner faggot character from bleach' or 'emo loner faggot character from naruto' or 'emo loner faggot character from one piece'
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>>28544765
I don't see how this contradicts my argument.
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>>28544877
well you had mentioned they want to be as cool as such and such character, while I point out that your claim would hold more water if any of them had actually picked a cool character.
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>>28544991
'Cool' is subjective.
Case in point, autistic children think emo loner faggots from The Big Three are cool, while we don't.
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>>28545019
true enough. And if fanfiction writers had any taste, there would be no fanfiction.
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Amazing that you can find elitism on an Internet forum for My Little Pony fanfiction enthusiasts.
We're already at the bottom of the barrel, but there's still some fuckers below we can shit on somehow.
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>>28545145
theres always someone in a crappier position than you that you can shit on. it helps make me feel better about myself being a fan of a toy companys little girl marketing line
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how does something like this get a ratio like that?
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>>28545658
Half of the readers come from Equestria after Dark, so his audience already knows what they're looking for.
It's pretty hard to have bad ratio on a clopfic, because people who aren't into it won't see it.
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>>28545708
yeah but
>anthro
>admitted self insert
>Dick Peter McCockjoke
that seems bad even by clopfic standards
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So who else watched Legend of Everfree for the first time today? And is anyone writing fics about it yet?
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>>28545823
I watched it when it first came out because I wanted to know how badly it would mess up my story idea. Having watched it, I'm probably going to completely redo the premise of my story, which may be a blessing in disguise, but we'll see.
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>>28545823
Where can I watch it anyways? It's not on yayponies.
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>>28545145
>>>/reddonychan daily/
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>>28545823
I'm not going to watch it, but I'm sure there are tons of fics about it
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>>28545897
yayponies only accepts certain sources, I'm guessing the leaked movie is not from any of them
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>>28545920
>reddonychandaily
Haven't heard that one in a while.
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>>28545937
Probably because of 60% of today's /mlp/ posters being from ponychan.
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>>28545942
People love to say that but I haven't seen blatant ponychanners in here since that time we taught Faust how to tripfag.

Then again I don't spend much time visiting shitposting threads these days.
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>>28545968
>People love to say that
Didn't even know. Came back here in 2014 or 2015 (been gone for ~2 years) and it was just infested with blatant hugboxing, tripfagging and generals created solely for circlejerking. Found this thread by chance, posted a little and never went out there again.
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So either ponies don't have fur, or this makes zero sense.
How can ponies even have chest hair sticking out.
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>>28545823
I already tried to make a Shadowbolts' version, but is pants.
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>>28546076
Have you missed all those ponies with beards?
Their coats are probably very thin, with actual body hair growing in between.
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>>28546171
coats are actual body hair...
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>>28546202
wow ur so rite.......
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>>28545658
>""""""ironic"""""" anthro clopfic
This mad genius has found a way to write an anthro clopfic that appeals not only to people who actually like anthro clopfics but also to people who think they're dumb
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>>28546218
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>>28545897
It's on netflix now.
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>>28546608
I'm not seeing it.
Probably the MPAA/RIAA/MAFIAA said I'm not allowed to buy it in my country, so I'll just have to pirate it instead.
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>>28546778
>not watching a very minty christmas
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>tfw never rewarded for the amount of effort I put in
At least when I write scat, people notice me.
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>>28536757
I'm going stir crazy waiting for the next chapter of final solution.
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>>28547711
You alright Mythril?
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>>28547711
If you take a shit in the middle of a busy street, people will notice you too.
That's probably not the way to success, tough.
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>>28547735
>Mfw Mythril claimed to be the inspiration for one of my stories
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>>28547742
screens or didn't happen
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>>28547741
Would you rather create a masterpiece for everyone to enjoy, just to be the only one who sees it or create something that won't make you feel alone anymore?
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>>28547755
Whoops. Guess it was Megapone.
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>Thursday
>OH FUCK THIS IS THE GREATEST THING I'VE EVER CREATED! I CAN'T STOP WRITING HOLY SHIT, BY THIS RATE I'M GONNA FINISH IT BY HALLOWEEN!

>Friday
>I never want to type another word for the rest of my life

>Saturday
>I just had the greatest fucking idea for a NEW STORY,
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>>28547761
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>>28547770
Iktf. Are there any good romance stories (remember, emphasis on good) that tackle AppleShy?
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>>28547770
Remove Saturday and that's literally me.

>>28547776
>7776
>>28547777
>7777
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>>28547761
I strive for quality because I believe it's a good goal to pursue in and of itself.
I like looking back at something I made and being able to be proud of it, flawed as it may be. I like getting better and I like a challenge.
Writing cheap fetishist MLP smut is none of that.

Your masterpiece might not be recognized for what it is, but your scat will definitely never be a masterpiece.
Life is pointless regardless, but you might as well try to do something with it.
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>>28546171
wrong.
>>28546076
look at a pony up close and you will see that they have wiskers all over. though not to the extent depicted in this fucking show. the point is simple, some hair grows longer than other hair. it doesn't break biology.
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>>28547816
>tfw wrote what I considered to be a masterpiece horror
>3 months later, still hasn't even made it to 10 thumbs up yet
>then immediately wrote about a peeing pooping principal
>it was noticed immediately
Sadly, I got a better thrill from Pregnant Principal Poopy Pants than I did with my masterpiece horror story. /vanity
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>>28547848
Honestly chances are your masterpiece horror story just was pretty damn average.
Usually when people think they've created a masterpiece, it means they're so bad that they can't see how bad they are.

I guess you can't achieve perfection without being a perfectionist.
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>>28547723
It's been on chapter-a-month for over two years now, why is it bothering you now?
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>>28547870
The thing is, nobody read it. How can you gauge how good something is if it goes unnoticed?
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>>28547895
Nobody decided to read it, or nobody even looked at the description, or nobody even saw a link? Three different things.

If the premise is already bad, I won't read it, I won't vote, I won't give feedback. Most bad stories on fimfiction don't have a terrible ratio, they have 20 views and 3 votes because nobody even bothers to open a chapter.
The stories with many negative votes are either so obviously terrible they get downvoted on sight, or the one that disappointed after people gave them a chance.

Maybe it really is great and unnoticed. Post a link here, shill it, see what happens.
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>>28547933
O-OK. http://www.fimfiction.net/story/336379/this-is-no-musical
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>>28547817
Why is their body hair and facial hair so human-like and different colour than their coats?
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>>28547990
because it's a cartoon
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>>28547967
>mature
>gore
>dark
>horror
0% relevant to my interests
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>>28548002
So that's why you're objectively right even though your theory makes no logical sense?
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>>28548006
It's almost as if he mentioned writing a horror story before posting a link!
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>>28548006
Take the gore with a grain of salt. I only put it there in case a mod got their jimmies rustled.
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>>28547967
>>28548006
Pretty much this. Mature-gore-dark-as-my-soul-horror is a hard combination. It usually signals edgy angtsy teens writing their first words.

I also happen to really dislike Cheese Sandwitch as a character, but I'll read it anyways.
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>>28547876
because! its so fucking good and every god damn time it updates I am forced to remember that it is not only amazing but all of the other good shit I used to read like dungeon keeper ami and on a clear day you can see forever are dead and will remain dead along with every other cool thing I find.
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>>28548007
I didn't give you a theory and I didn't reply to your assinine "why is it X" question. All I did was explain that fur can have sections of fur that are longer and stand out differently. thats how manes are a thing you fucking faggot. you can autism explosion over chest hairs all you like and invision bald wrinkly skinned ponies if you feel like it. I did my part. I am not participating in that.
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>>28548033
Maybe you should try it too. Expand your creativity by trying out a mix of genres that you hate and making it good. That's what I'm looking at doing with le random comedies.
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>>28548015
Not really the point. The question was why nobody read the fic. In my case, looking at the tags was enough to convince me to avoid it, even though normally I would be inclined to read at least a bit of it and post some feedback.
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>>28548083
>calls me autistic
>gets this mad about a "discussion" about fucking pony body hair
And since you take this so seriously, why don't you answer my "asinine" question?
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>>28548087
I have tried, though. That's how I formed my opinions in the first place.
At a point I started reading all of the gorey grimdark edgy stuff to see what it was all about — Cheerilee's Garden and its Harvest sequel, Cupcakes, Rainbow Factory, Sweet Apple Massacre, smaller stuff, you name it — and after you've read several different ways to slice, dissolve and crush people it starts getting dull unless there's something more to it.

Now horror is a different genre than pure gore written for the shock value, but in general and from my experience Gore/Grimdark/Mature/Dark is a particularly bad combination of red flag if you're looking for more than poorly written gratuitous psychopathy.
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>>28548141
I knew people weren't typically interested in this genre, but for 3 months to go by without even 100 views? Are there that many people opposed to the edgy tags?
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>>28548060
>on a clear day you can see forever is dead
>last update: September 7, 2008
Holy shit dude, you weren't kidding
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>>28548157
This is what I try to stay away from. If I can shamelessly defend my story (specifically for discussion purposes), the story I wrote is less about the killings themselves as much as what they did to the character and why she does it. I try to hit it with the "this is real life" train that makes the reader (hopefully) almost want to root for her.
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>>28548164
>Are there that many people opposed to the edgy tags?
On a website dedicated to cute little horsies living in a magical fantasy world? What do you think?

It doesn't help that ALL your tags are edgy tags. If there was at least a hint of something I like mixed in with all that edge, at least I would have reason to consider whether it was worth reading.
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>>28548164
Just the gore and horror tag mixed together drives me away. I like psychological, subtle horror better, not obvious "2much blod 2edgy4me" fics.
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>>28548285
Again, I only threw in the gore tag because I was afraid the mods would get their panties in a bunch of I didn't. There's no blood and guts in the story, and I agree that stories that rely on it are typically poorly written.
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>>28548304
> There's no blood and guts in the story,

Then remove it you braindead idiot.

If you know there's no gore, don't put the tag in the first place, since a good amount of people have associated it with uncreative edgy fics.
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>>28548233
>On a website dedicated to cute little horsies living in a magical fantasy world? What do you think?
>FoE
>Cupcakes
>Rainbow Factory
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>>28547967
So, in addition to bitching about the tags like everyone else ITT, I went ahead and started reading your fic. It started off a little rough, with the *unsheathes katana* stuff, but otherwise it was fine. I liked Cheese Sandwich's dialog in particular. On the other hand, the characters' emotions didn't come through very well when Octavia was talking about her career.

Then this happened:
> There, in the middle of the room, is a pony tied up to a chair, motionless. It's mane is gone, along with all of its skin. I can't even tell what gender it is anymore due to there being nothing left of it other than raw muscle tissue and whatever lies underneath. Even its eyes are gone, gauged out from its skull and leaving in its place two dark and empty sockets. I think I'll be sick to my stomach, not from the sight of the corpse, but from the rancid scent of a pony who had probably been sitting there for days now.
So, before I nope the fuck out of this entire fic, I'd just like to point out that while killing people to get ahead because she's addicted to the attention is plausible, torturing them and mutilating corpses is not.
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>>28548332
I'd love to, but the fimfiction mods aren't exactly the pinnacle of proper judgement. I don't want to get the story or my account taken down because someone was trying to "protect the children."
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>>28548336
>FoE
>Cupcakes
>Rainbow Factory

These were done first, like early HiEs. Their ideas have been milked out so badly there's nothing left about them. They're pretty much popular because they were first and probably only ones, on the same level as Past Sins and FOE, despite the first being a Mary Sue fic and the second a complete rip-off of FO3.
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>>28548357
To be fair, she only did half of it.
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>>28548384
>and the second a complete rip-off of FO3.
Leaving the Stable to look for someone, maybe. Too bad this takes like a few chapters to be over and the main plot switches focus.
I swear, if you people tried reading FoE, you'd be perfectly justified in disliking it. There are other, more important things it ripped straight from the games, even though none of them make the story predictable.
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>>28548379
I just saw >>28548357, and realized you need it. Keep it if that's in your fic.

But then, that description is just as bland as

>Feel sick, because I tell you to do so.

When you could do

>Before me lied what was once a pony. Once, when it had some skin over her tissues and eyes in her sockets. Even her mane was scalped, and without the hole in the nether regions, I couldn't tell if he was male or female. A rotten odor crept in the room, through my skin and under it, permeating the whole neighborhood with a dump's perfume mixed with Canterlot's fish market. I was dulled out to the odor, but I saw my assistant run out the room, barely holding her mouth shut with some of her magic.

This isn't stellar or good, but it's better than just providing a basic description followed with "FEEL SICK AND DISGUSTED DAMN YOU!"
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>>28548412
>if you people tried reading FoE

I don't, since it doesn't fit my interests at all. I've just read the synopsis and noped out, and concluded it was a shitty rip-off from another anon's resume.
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>>28548441
Glad to see you form your own opinions and don't spread misinformation.
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>>28548188
at least they got to a milestone before they abandoned it, but shit on a clear day has basically replaced the entire sailor moon canon for me (not that that is especially hard to do, SM is awful even at it's best, and unwatchable at its worst, particularly arc 1 and 2)

writing fatigue and deadfics have basically been slaying every fic I like for the last 3 years. Final solution is what little I have left between that and a few undertale fics. I'm bankrupt for anything to chew into.
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>>28548146
yes, I called you autistic because you are trying to turn this into an argument and it's not worth having, nor was it ever one.
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>>28547967
Alright, so I read it as promised. Here's some thoughts.

First the description. I don't want to repeat myself, but those tags and the whole edgy theme is not encouraging. The description made me expect detailed, graphical violence, but there wasn't any unless you count the ending as violent.

The writing style is fairly good and readable, I liked the start pretty well even though I'm not a fan of Cheese's over the top character in general. Then it gets a little dull though, Octavia does a lot of talking but none of it is particularly scary or disturbing, it's not boring, but this is not horror at all.

It becomes pretty clear at some point that Octy is completely insane, but her decision to tell everything to Cheese with no intention of harming him and no intention of ending her own life made absolutely no sense.
What exactly was the crazy psychopathic pony hoping to do here by revealing everything?
Are we supposed to believe that she genuinely just decided to redeem herself on the spot, as if admitting to being a serial killer to some random guy scared out of his mind would have zero consequences?

And the ending made just as little sense. Cheese conveniently loses hold of the knife at just the right moment, then the serial killer decides not to kill her would be murderer, and then she kills herself even though she apparently had no intention of dying just moments ago?

Furthermore, the whole keeping bodies in your house for long period of times thing is complicated. Dead things stink like you would no believe, it's impossible to not throw up if you're in a five meter radius of Pestillence. And then the insects start swarming around.

There's a joke somewhere to be made about Cheese and the plot being full of holes, but I'll spare you that.
Overall you can write well, but it's not horror, not surprising, and it all makes little sense. 2000.
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>>28548563
Shit.

Thanks for the feedback.
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>>28548617
Some extra advice, but take it with a whole shaker of salt because I've never actually written shit.

If you want to do horror you have to stop giving everything away right from the start.
In your story things go from a two people talking with nothing to be afraid of beyond the description of the story, to knowing that there's a pile of dead body, knowing who killed them, and knowing that she's not actively trying to kill anymore.
At this point what is left to fear, what should I be afraid of?

A good horror story needs to appeal to my fear of the unknown, it needs to let me imagine the worst, because human minds are very good at shitting themselves if you just give them a nudge.
Show as little as possible to make a real threat. Make me afraid of the the possibilities, don't just show me dead bodies. Make me afraid of the dark.

Your story didn't do that, and I'm going to sleep just fine tonight.
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>>28548817
Makes sense. I'm just frustrated that I didn't make it happen this time.
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>>28548836
It's okay, the important part is to keep trying so you keep getting better.
I do a lot of critiquing things, but I couldn't write what anyone here writes to save my life.
Keep on keeping on.
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>>28548467
>I'm bankrupt for anything to chew into.
...seriously? I'm only into the one franchise and I still have a backlog hundreds of stories long. Not to mention the 100+ fics that I started reading this year alone.
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>>28550151
I like to read stuff that's good and I'm interested in. I also am a setting fag and I prefer character driven stories that focus on the world around them rather than comedy, emotional rollercoasters, or tradgedies. I can enjoy pretty much all of those things if they come second to the afformentioned fleshing out of a setting, but most of the time, they either are completely neglectful of it, or burn me at the end like twilights inferno FUCK THAT PIECE OF SHIT It's not like I dont' have other fics on fimfiction that I read but I wouldn't consider any of them nearly as good as this one and they do not update nearly as consistantly
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Has anyone read the 'Savage Skies' series?

There's like, shit, I don't know, four or five stories in it each ranging from 150 thousand words to 300 thousand words. It's pretty good.
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>>28550303

I started the first story in the series. Gave up pretty quick, when the animu OC who's faster than Rainbow Dash and has super-magic noone's ever heard of beats up the serial rapist who was stalking Fluttershy.

Are you saying it gets better? Granted, it couldn't get a lot worse, from what I remember.
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The average story on FimFic is an Adventure, Slice of Life or Comedy rated Teen and Complete or close to it.

It has 12k words in 4 chapters, it's got 80 likes and 7 dislikes, 1500 views and 50 comments.

Why are you not better than average?
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>>28550407
It's all explained later in the story.

Think Dragonball Z characters minus the excessive yelling and 'powering up' nonsense. Except the fights can be more brutal in this story.
It's pretty good.
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>>28550489
>It's all explained later in the story.
That doesn't actually help unless it's a good explanation. And the stupider the power, the better the explanation needs to be.

Example:
> OC knows a special type of magic
> at night, he can gather moonlight and form it into a sword
> this technique has been lost for over 1000 years
That's fucking retarded, right?
> don't worry, it's all explained later in the story
> when he was a foal he loved the moon and prayed to it every night
> eventually NMM hears him and realizes how much he loves her night
> she comes to him in a dream and teaches him this secret technique she used long ago
This looks vaguely like a logical explanation but in reality helps not even a little. It just moves the problem around. Instead of being a snowflake because he inexplicably knows this unique spell, he's a snowflake because NMM inexplicably favored him and taught him this obscure (but super cool and badass) battle magic.
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>>28550645
> the better the explanation needs to be.
Magic.
Really anon, they're in a magical world full of magical creatures with magical powers.
Also, if you really want to know and don't care about a little bit of spoilage;
Various pones get so powerful with both a latent talent and extreme training under various different types of magical based martial arts that hones their natural earth/pegasus/unicorn magic. It basically gives them much better control over the magic they use everyday.
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>>28550681
I figure I should also mention the story has a lot of cutesy moments too, and some emotional ones as well.
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>>28550681
>Really anon, they're in a magical world full of magical creatures with magical powers.
Yeah? Well so is my stupid moonlight-sword OC

>that last spoiler
Yeah, that still doesn't help given what that other anon said in >>28550407. RD is canonically one of the fastest fliers in Equestria, if not the absolute fastest, even as of S1. If a fic's going to have some OC that's faster than her, there had better be an explanation beyond "talent + training". Especially given that RD also has the talent and has been training for years.
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>>28550729
I just explained it.

The MARTIAL ART they practice is what allows them greater control over the magic they already wield. Without it a lot of that magic is wasted since few ponies know how to utilize it.
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>>28550737
Honestly it sounds fucking dumb. I'm glad you have something you like, but I'm gonna stay away from it.
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>>28548384
>Their ideas have been milked out so badly there's nothing left about them.
Is there anything left in mlp fanfic that's original? Let's be honest here. Everything's been done to death, and all the good writers are either gone or just going through the motions.
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>>28550792
Suit yourself.

I'm more of a fan of the relationships he builds and the character progression myself anyways.
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>>28550822
It depends. Do you want a 100% ALL ORIGINAL broad premise? Too bad. They don't exist anymore. Everything's been done before. Alternatue Universe? Sorry, you're isn't new. Slice of Life? That same incident's probably happened before too.

But uniqueness still exists. There's unique or superior AUs, likewise for every other genre. Will we forever trend toward less originality and more rehashed garbage? Yes, but original stuff won't just go away like that.

Here's a couple in progress ones that a lot of you are likely familiar with, and maybe aren't super unique, but I think fit the bill nicely. They're well written and have interesting premises that are handled well within their equine confines.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/280598/faultlines This one is one of my favorites, with a very different, somewhat Matrix-esque take on our little horsies.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/247031/the-mare-who-once-lived-on-the-moon MrNumbers is really good at writing.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/316852/empty-horizons It'd be generic if it wasn't almost unique for its premise. Sort of like above, where the artwork seems to have inspired the story, rather than vice versa

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/303160/synthetic-bottled-sunlight NorrisThePony has been writing fairly unique stuff for a while now, Duck Falls was pretty good too.

Defo can recco the lot tbqh familia
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>>28550878
Ummm... Dusk, not Duck. My b
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>>28550303
I started it, and got caught up to where the writer was at that point, but havent touched the final 3 volumes.

Its one of those 'oh shit this is terrible but I can't stop reading it' stories

The pony kung fu shit is retarded. the constant OCxcanon shipping is retarded. the psychotic cyborg-pegasus frenemy of the MC is retarded. Twilights blind samurai coltfriend that can kill with the pine needles and dirt stuck in his tail is retarded. The special snowflake stu MC who is possibly related to girokon is fucking retarded.

But.

its fairly well written. I imagine this is whole thing is somewhere along the lines of getting a good writer to create something that is intentional shit just to see if they can make a flaming turd successful
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>>28551201
Yeah, it's pretty well written. And he most certainly did go overboard with the shipping.

But I love the psychotic pegasus and I will fite ya m8 swer on me mum.
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>>28551201
>girokon
who
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>>28551229
lance fucking greenfield or greenberg of whatever the fuck his name was
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>>28551278
...who
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>>28551298
how can you possibly not be familiar with the most prodigious OC around after nyx?
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>>28551315
i dont take the time to learn about or memorize the most cancerous things around
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>>28551337
then you don't belong here, newfriend
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>>28551340
thats nice
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Anybody read Bad Mondays? Fantastic writing and world building. Characters are great too.
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>>28551423
Depends on the chapter. some are better than others, but the main plotline sucks and the asshole main character cliche gets old.

I'm only sticking with it because I have too much time invested to just drop it
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>>28551448
Man, you guys are cynical and ornery as hell here.

Do any of you actually enjoy the stories you read?
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>>28550457
The average is pretty fucked up by upvotes sinks and things like The Chase.
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>>28551517
Yeah, they just have to be good.
That said, we're all extremely opinionated and will voice those opinions harshly.
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>>28552286
its easier to criticize than praise. or something to that effect
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>>28552301
Easy praising is exactly what creates shit like the feature box meta and most popular stories.
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>>28552301
It's easy to hate and praise, not to criticize.
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Why aren't you writing?
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>>28553863
Cause fuck you
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>>28553878
I concur with the sentiments of this fine gentleman.

I'm currently in too much pain to think about writing, or think about anything in general. Good chance to catch up on my reading, I suppose.
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Spanksgiving by Regidar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_S0nPcNkHI

*unsolicited opinions on Israel?*
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>>28554146
Do you do requests? If you do, can you do this for me?
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/341214/rainbow-blubber
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>>28553863
Because I get no enough comments and feedback from readers.
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>>28554582
Then post it here and let us take a shot at it. There are some (3-4) pretty good writers here.
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>>28554599
Well, if you say so...

Here is my most recent work:
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/344460/the-shadowbolts-adventures-the-glory-and-legend-of-eternal-city

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/309531/a-she-devil-in-plain-sight

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/324594/a-nightly-visit
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>>28550729
>>28551201
That's actually another instance like 7DSJ and AAG, where I've gotten probably more intrigued than it merited by their prodigious length and TV Tropes entries. I don't actually remember Dawn being shown that early to be faster than Dash, though it doesn't surprise me. I only put it on the back burner because it was shaping up to be yet another story which turns Applejack into a racist, paranoid bitch to drive conflict (see also Triptych, A Wolf In Pony's Clothing, Sharing the Night...).

Though speaking of trying to justify somepony outflying Dash, has anyone read https://www.fimfiction.net/story/3782/higher-flier ? You could argue that it's still bullshit, but I think it gets around the "special snowflake" thing pretty well, as well as emphasizing that the characters still mainly excel at their own niches. (I'd explain more, but I'm not sure how to spoiler. Besides it's like 30K words total.)
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>>28556038
that was a close one, fuck
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I have three different stories in three different states of development and even though I finally have time to write, I can't bring myself to do anything.

Why do I suck so much?
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>>28550878
In line with this, trials of kindness and blood is pretty much the only good "fluttershy is a vampire premise" to bad the sequel about nightmare moon isn't good.
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>>28555129
That one was a decent one, but it falls far outside my headcanon. It's definitely a product of its time, where people were still playing with weird stuff in their fics. I have to say I thought of that same fic when the "faster than dash" argument came up, but I would never have remembered its name.
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>>28555129
>>28556597
higher flier was also very specialized, only being faster at high altitude.
back to savage skies though I dont recall anyone being faster than dash when it comes to flying, though she may have gotten her shit pushed in during a fight, which is obviously a different thing since shes the fastest flier, not the fastest fighter.

At least that series didnt have anyone pulling rainbooms on demand, which is a step up from many oc centric stories ive seen
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page 10
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So, on the offchance that the board does get deleted, what would you guys do?
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>>28558587
Maybe actually write a fic for once. Or, more likely, go shitpost on /k/.
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>>28558781
/k/ does seem like a much better place to discuss the intricacies of mouth swords and dong guns
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>>28558815
I wonder if I could get away with making a thread about equiping quadrupeds with weapons before someone called me out.
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>>28558877
I'm sure someone there has come up with the idea of a battle burro or combat cattle before. you'd probably be safe so long as you avoided mentioning equines

also ch-ch-checked
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I still want to hurt ponies but I'm sick of wasting my time on grimdark. What are some of the more popular fetish groups on Fimfiction?
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Whassup guys. I've been running a Fimfic author podcast for awhile now. I'm curious if there's any writers on Fimfic you guys feel should get some spotlight? Got any suggestions?
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>>28559116
When's the next PonyASMR video, you hack fraud?
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>>28559159
due to creative differences, I am no longer a writer on the PonyASMR project. The team is hard at work building a new trailer for you guys. But I only stay in contact as a consultant at this point.

That's about all I can say.
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Since ideas are always shit, let's talk about prose. Where on the sliding scale of beige prose (the sex scenes of My Immortal) to purple prose (Amanda McKittrick Ros) do you prefer your stories? From 1-10.
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>>28558587
Shitpost on other boards
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>>28559569
I'd say somewhere around 6, bordering on 7.

I like the stories I read to be colorful and have engagin prose, as long as the author doesn't go overboard.
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>>28559569
4-ish, maybe? As long as the dialogue is as beige or purple as needed for the character, I prefer the descriptions and stuff to be on the more efficient side, brevity being wit and all.
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>Want to make a warfic
>literally all the good ideas are taken

Fuck this
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>>28560288
Nobody reads warfics anymore anyway. Better off writing another genre or for a fandom that doesn't vomit at the sight of them.
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>>28559569
As long as the writing isn't bland, I'm happy. I would rather all the senses be covered than none, likewise I would rather cover the mundane than skip the extraordinary. My favorite things in writing are long descriptive stretches where the action slows down to provide some insight and perhaps even, dare I say, world-building? into the scene at hand. Too often, I think, a good story is let down by a lack of description, and it's one of my personal triggers when the author makes no effort to describe the main characters, even though I know we all know exactly what they look like when if comes to MLP fanfiction.

>>28560288
As long as it's not edgy and instead focuses on character development and doesn't include anything stupid, out of place, or otherwise ill-fitting the nature of horse-words, go for it. state your intent and we'll shoot it down so you can have closure for the idea ^:)
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>>28560309
Main Protag is a slacker, never movitated to do anything outside of what he is good at, bodyguard of a special AI made by a Canterlot scientist designed to control airships.

Learns what it means to be motivated while keeping a curious child in control of a death machine out of harm's way.

Almost no fighting would take place, but its set in a warzone.
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>>28560309
How can a warfic not be edgy? Unless it's like the skirmish with the buffalo where they fight by throwing pie, I don't see how a warfic can avoid edge.
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>>28560336
Ever see mash? hoagans heroes? china beach? uh the a team I guess?

Not everything in a war takes place on the front line.
So maybe the equestrian army is currently gettiing raped senseless both literally and figuratively by the deer a thousand miles away and if your main character is a janitor at the tiger fucking tank assembly plant then I wouldnt expect to see a lot of edge
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>>28560332
Ain't nothing wrong with that I guess.

>>28560336
War isn't edgy by nature. It's the faggots who think it's cool to describe in detail how much pleasure their MC is getting from all the gore that makes it edgy. I wouldn't consider WW1 poetry to be edgy. Harrowing and emotional, yes, but far from edgy. It's about how you spin it. If you don't go into needless detail for the sake of your own sick entertainment, and make sure your characters aren't unrealistic psychopaths, you're halfway there. The other half is making sure the premise of the war itself it's utterly stupid and contrived just to make LE WAR IN EQUESTRIA xDDDD happen.
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Managed to write one entire sentence.

Fuck it, it's better than nothing.
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>>28560647
>mash? hoagans heroes? china beach? uh the a team I guess?
I was under the impression that "warfic" meant the characters were actually in war. I wouldn't consider MASH or Hogan's Heroes warfics just because the background story involves a war.

>>28560696
>War isn't edgy by nature.
War is literally large groups of armed men eviscerating and getting eviscerated by different large groups of armed men at the behest of governments who want to achieve a political goal. Unless you include abstractions like "culture war" or "war on poverty", or dial down the realism for the rating's sake, I don't see how it could plausibly not be edgy.
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>>28560874
I always figured 'warfic' simply meant there was a war going on, and the main character just happens to normally be smack dab in the middle of it.

But using a war as a setpiece instead of the focus is probably just about the only way to have a war themed non-edgefest
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>>28545823
>watching EqG
After how shit the first one was, I've opted out of that portion of the ride ever since.

>>28547761
Since writing itself takes all of the time, I'd rather write something I enjoy then write for the common denominator. It can take 40 hours to write a fic of decent length and quality. It only takes two hours to read/reply to comments and stare at it in the featured box.

>>28548157
>written for the shock value
Is that even really a thing anymore in MLP fics? There's been so much gore--from edgy "look at this cute thing that's been corrupted" comedy over to the serious deconstruction--I don't really think anything's that shocking anymore.

>>28548164
The edge has been used so much, it's been worn dull.

>>28550822
It all depends on how broad a net you're casting. Most basic plots have been done, but has every iteration of every plot? Absolutely not.

>>28558587
Probably shift over to cripplechan's /mlp/.

>>28559569
5. Anything higher and I start skipping over all the pointless bullshit that pads out each chapter. If it gets really high, I drop the fic like I did BP.
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>>28536868

App. 1600th day: 3 words.

>"Please kill me."
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>>28561474
That, or try to reflect the attitude of futurists towards (modern) war, namely as an ethimologically awesome clash of machine and man combined together.

Or go for The epic poets' route and depict it as a glorious endavours only.
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>>28559116
I've kinda had the urge to get more involved in fandom stuff lately (I've been really dormant for a while), but I've never really explored podcasting before. What all does it entail exactly in the case of yours? Is it like a platform for writers to spotlight / offer commentary on their work? Is it more of a writers' workshop / educational venture to give advice to newer writers? Or is it just "a bunch of dudes bullshitting and occasionally it's about a ponefic or two?"

(also I write smut almost exclusively so I dunno if that's a disqualifier?)

>>28561648
The weird thing is they keep getting better? Like, the first one was alright but not amazing, and I can totally understand not liking it, but somehow they improve each time. I dunno, they might be worth giving a shot next time you have a couple of hours to kill, they're not even an hour and a half each.
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Does anyone else go through all the new popular stories and dislike them, hoping to knock them back down to mediocrity?
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>>28562376
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>>28550303
>>28551201
I've read through all of them now except for the final volume.

I think the final one is my favorite so far, just because it's all about the peace afterwards and it's so cozy and cute.
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>>28558587
go back to /b/. you can post actual horsepussy there
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Trump bump
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If scilight came to Equestria, would she have wings?
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>>28563575
Doubt it, she'd probably still be a unicorn, unless whatever it is that happened to her in the previous movie altered her in some way, though I couldn't say that'd be similar to ascension.
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>>28563575
Well, she got wings when she ponied-up in EqG4. which is fucking bullshit btw So I wouldn't be surprised if she also had them after going through the mirror. Because fuck consistency and fuck worldbuilding, pretty pink/purple princesses are what sells, so cram some more into the show at whatever cost.
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Tell me, Anon.
Are you working on a story?
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>>28565128
Yes.
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>>28565150
Well, I wish you the best, Anon.
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>>28556394
Are you me? All of my pony-steam is gone, man. It really sucks.

>>28558587
Continue writing non-pony projects. Surf Derpibooru. Same old, same old.
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Name a story you absolutely LOVED, from beginning to end.

And a story that makes you nostalgic.
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>>28565894
>story you absolutely LOVED, from beginning to end.

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/326560/discourse-on-fillies
A little on the shorter, but I did really enjoy all three acts of it.

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/18087/the-best-night-ever
A nice blend of funny and emotional and is strong the whole way. If only he would finish the sequel.

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/234937/fractured-sunlight
I'm still on the fence about whether it's the best Sunset fic of all time (Long Road is really good too), but it was more consistently good than Long Road, and I really did love the whole thing, from the initial handling of the premise, to the evolution of the story/relationships between characters that went past but still included the premise, to the ending drama.

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/141549/the-celestia-code
I don't care what anybody says, this was a fun romp from beginning to end.

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/34029/best-young-flyer
Another fic that is consistently good, with not much in the way of ups and downs.

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/284137/a-gay-old-time
Every chapter is funny in a slightly different way, keeping the story fresh and making me laugh from start to finish.

>story that makes you nostalgic.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/48108/statistics
One of the first "literary" stories I read, that made me see that ponyfic could be "profound" and "avant-garde" (in hindsight, it was really just an interesting concept executed well, but at the time, this was my first exposure to non-standard storytelling).

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/5921/eternal
First fic to ever make me cry, although how much of that was out of pure emotional exhaustion from slogging through that pile of verbose feels in questionable.

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/22706/aurora
The first multi-chapter story I ever read, it showed me that horsewords could be dark and handle mature topics like murder, and also introduced me to shipping.
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>>28565980
>First fic to ever make me cry
First fic that made me cry bitch tears was Background pony, like... shit four years ago now? I think it was four.
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>>28565894
>Name a story you absolutely LOVED, from beginning to end.

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/3513/keeping-it-simple
Always. There's something about this story that just makes me happy all this years later.
Here's hoping the sequel lives up to the original.

>And a story that makes you nostalgic.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/74679/treating-her-right
This is the story that made me like AppleDash back in the day. Good times.
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>>28566094
>http://www.fimfiction.net/story/3513/keeping-it-simple
I still maintain that KiS was the most depressing pone story Ive ever read
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>>28565894

>a story you absolutely LOVED, from beginning to end

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/19308/the-rummy-business-of-old-blooey

A brilliant melding of Wodehouse's signature style and humor with a pony setting, this story had me laughing throughout. It's one of the only comedies I've re-read which held up just as well years later as it did when I first saw it.

>a story that makes you nostalgic

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/182859/its-a-dangerous-business-going-out-your-door

Tolkien and ponies - what more could you (I) want? I remember how excited I'd get when a new chapter came out, and how I'd stop whatever I was doing to read it. That story was tailor-made for me, and it was a blast.
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>>28561890
It's a bunch of drunks talking ponies taking questions from different users.
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>>28566700
>It's a bunch of drunks talking ponies taking questions from different users.
Sounds like a lovely way to pass the time.
What happens if I don't drink?
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>>28566394
You know things are going great when your "heppy ending" is basically Big Mac giving everyone the finger and moving to Canterlot to live with a crazy mare who would have been the villain in any other story.

That being said, I'm actually really looking forward to the sequel and am hoping it doesn't take as long to finish as the first story did.
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>>28565128
yes
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>>28562376
Not worth the effort. Usually, I'll only dislike a story if it's either offensively bad or infuriatingly overrated. Especially if it's both. I absolutely cannot hit the dislike button hard enough if it's a piece of shit that happens to be popular.
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>>28565128
I'm doing a CYOA. I imagine it'll be one of the most fun things I've ever written.
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I am writing this post to send some well-meaning motivational energy to all struggling writers out there. Here: \T/

Also, I propose an experiment of sorts. I'm going to try to write either a short story or a chapter or two tonight. I'll post it on pastebin, then upload to Fimfiction later on.

If I fail to write something substantial (full story / complete chapter or two, a few thousand words) by 7 AM Eastern Time, y'all can pile on me and punish/insult me as you see fit. What do you guys think?
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>>28568048
If you haven't gotten to the point where people calling you a retarded autistic faggot 5000 times doesn't make you laugh instead of feel bad, you haven't been on 4chan long enough.
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>>28568048
>y'all can pile on me and punish/insult me as you see fit.
we can do that either way regardless of whether you write something or not, homo
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chapter 1, page 1, paragraph 1
/dropped
its a new record
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>>28568149
>it is with my sincerest regrets that I must tell you the tale
>this terrible story
>this horrible tale
>my immortal

It is as if his subconscious is trying to tell him that this story sucks and that he shouldn't be posting it.
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>>28568113
>>28568144

Eh, I'm just trying to experiment or whatnot. Trying to get motivated and all that. Couldn't come up with anything better.

I'll still try to write something up, maybe.
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>>28568149
Happened to me only once.

>apparently famous fic
>tagged with gore
>can't be too bad, right?
>first few pages detailed descriptions of ponies brutally eviscerating each other, as well as Celestia and Luna as murderous weapons of mass destructions in some kind of pony civil war

Ok, nope. Don't care what "good" reviews it gets.
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How can I make this more 'nasty' tentacle monster? Not rape, but bloody, gory, nasty.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/347337/we-is
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>>28568208

comments -> https://docs.google.com/document/d/176gmrRnKSgcwzH3vuTk7zPC46_P4bUe1KRlzBAqaLIU/edit?usp=sharing
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>>28568208
>not rape tentacles
You disgust me.
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Alright guys, about a year ago I wrote a story about Anon being a succubus pony due to creepy grandmother shenanigans, here:

http://pastebin.com/BLH9fRXY

My question is, would anyone be interested in me continuing it?
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>>28568250
I mean it's gonna walk into that town, find somepony on their lonesome who's away from pying eyes, then murder-eat-rape the ever living fuck out of em so....

Do you want sexualized rape tentacles?
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>>28562376
No, I'm not that bitter.

I only downvote fics I've read that are either shit or pissed me off.

>>28565980
>executed well
Thanks. I still think I could have tied all the statistics together better to make a tighter narrative.

>>28568208
>virus
>killed most living creatures
It's not doing a very good job at reproducing then if all its hosts die. Also, the faster it kills, the less likely it is to become a pandemic.

How does it spread? It would almost certainly have to be airbourn, as body fluids get nowhere once proper sanitation and quarantine are used (see: ebola).

How can a virus create life, let alone have some kind of malicious intent/evil plan? It's a microscopic thing that corrupts cells' DNA to spread.

I'm only nitpicking because it's a grimdark fic and has to pass through the fire.
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>>28568399
The guy writing that story isn't the one who came up with that virus, i.e. the premise for the whole AU, so I wouldn't recommend blaming any flaws or inconsistencies on him.
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>>28568301
_no
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>>28568399
>I'm only nitpicking because it's a grimdark fic and has to pass through the fire.

>desu post-apoc Equestria isn't ever done well.
I only wrote the story to put my self in the drawing for dat free art
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>>28568301
There's always a "no" in the middle of writing "Anon."
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>>28568149
You made it all the way to the end of the paragraph?
You're a stronger man than I am.
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>>28568301
Try the writefag's guild, if they're up.
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>>28569240
not really. got about halfway through the chapter before saying fuck it
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When will the next chapter of Article 2 drop?
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>>28569834
some quick and dirty math says march '17
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>>28570187
Well, it's come around... eventually
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Could I ask some of you learned anons to critique a short thing I wrote for another thread? I'd like to be a real writefag, but I seldom see anything I feel able to write, so I don't get a lot of practice. It didn't exactly get a lot of attention, so pretty much anything would be useful. Also, I'm fairly sure it's not that good, I just can't pin down why, so I'm not going to scoff at any criticism. Thanks
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>>28570249
Sure
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>>28570256
domo, anon

>>28569426
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>>28570281
Well, it's not exactly a story, so I'm not exactly sure how to critique it, but I'll try
You nailed Twilight's character, and that's basically the most important point of the letter
The sentences are kind of robotically short for the most part though, a few longer sentences would have been nice, if only for variety
The prose itself is also just kind of "eh", it's mostly just "this happened, then that happened, and then another event happened", which is especially jarring when Twilight describes her feelings
I know purple prose is looked down upon, but some descriptions in place of "I felt x" would make it much better (Something like "As I recalled all of the times we helped each other, even when we didn't realize we needed it, I noticed my eyes watering" flows better in my opinion)
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>>28570377
Thanks, that really is helpful. It occurs to me now that a lot of the mistakes you outlined were me "telling" and not "showing," which is something I need to be more cognizant of in the future. As for the sentence length, I deliberately tried to keep that down a.) to keep with the style of the show's writing but also b.) because I personally have a nasty habit of drawing sentences out into paragraphs. Good to know that that isn't something to so rigorously avoid in the future. Good tips, thanks again, anon.
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futaloo
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>>28568220
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>>28568149
What story is this?
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>>28572651
insanity my immoral enemy going by the url
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horsepussy
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>wanting to turn an 800000 word incomplete deadfic into a hardcover because past sins
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>>28574718
If anything, that means it'll update soon, right?
R-right?
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>>28575345
He says that later. But hes also been saying that for 2 years now.
I'm not holding my breath
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>>28574718
>didn't exist in 2012
Why wouldn't you just put it as the first comment? I thought that was the standard back in the day.

>CMC Fly Delta Airlines
I could see this a crackficcy oneshot, but why is it a multichapter story?
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>>28576098
>I could see this a crackficcy oneshot, but why is it a multichapter story?
people do all kinds of dumb things on fimfiction. why should this guy be any different?

>Why wouldn't you just put it as the first comment?
or an AN at the bottom of the page was pretty popular too before the an box come into existence. sounds like hes just migrating it from the end of the chapter to the box where its supposed to be
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>>28576151
shit i just noticed thats part of a shit sounding verse too
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Page 9 because too busy to wait for page 10 bump
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page 10
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No shit - what's the greatest pony fiction ever?
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>>28578098
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/336121/the-religion-of-peace

No shit. I enjoyed this story more than any other I've read.
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>>28578098
Through the Well of Pirene.
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>>28578340
Couldn't get past the first chapter, to be honest.
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>>28578294
Looks like a period piece. Won't last the generation desu.
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>>28578098
That's kinda tough to determine, isn't it?
Do you narrow it by genre or try to make an overall guess?
Can the best pony comedy fic stack against the best sadfic out there?
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>>28578499
I just want something that runs like a professional literary work honestly.
Surely out of the mass blob of works something out there exceeds the connotation of 'fanfiction'.
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>>28578098
Maybe The Best Night Ever or Sunflower based on how much I liked it.
Pirene on the other hand could have easily been published as a 'real' fantasy book, so I suppose if you consider fanfiction to be inherently worse, then it's the top of fanfiction.
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I thought these didn't happen anymore.
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>>28578772
Works for me.
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>>28578792
Yeah, it sorted itself out. I just had to refresh twice.

Boy that sure sent me back. The red background is new, though.
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>>28578806
I stumble on them from time to time by curiosity.

For example this link always derpies out: https://www.fimfiction.net/news/0
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>>28578393
Gets better des sempai
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>>28578098
Murky Number Seven
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>>28578558
Hmm... Salvation, maybe? The story of how two very different people react to/recover from traumatic events and an exploration of their sexualities and the evolution of their relationship seems like the type of things that would win awards I don't care about.

Discourse on Fillies also seems like the kind of thing one might read in English class, where you might be expected to write essays on how each character's backstory/personality explains their worldview and some stuff about metaphors and comparisons between the themes discussed in chapter 2 and the events of chapter 3.

I'm sure there are others, but I can't think of any at the moment. Probably some of CiG's other works and possibly some of the writeoff.me stories.
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>>28579198
Will check these out.
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>>28579275
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>>28578558
Depends on your criteria for "professional literary work honestly." There's a lot of crap on the shelves nowadays, and as a result tons of fanfics are better than a lot of stuff in your local bookstore. I mean, it's not hard to imagine a fantasy story better than the Inheritance Cycle (aka the Eragon books by Christopher Paolini) or a romance fic that's Still A Better Love Story Than Twilight.

Pirene, Dangerous Business, The Dusk Guard Saga, Twilight Sparkle of the Royal Guard, Flight of the Alicorn, Sunset of Time, The Celestia Code, The Sisters Doo, One Last Quest, Children of the Sun, these stories are all better than a lot of published Fantasy-Adventure stories.

The Prince of Dust, Twice as Bright, Her Majesty's Secret Service, Fractured Sunlight, University Days, Eyes on You, The Gentle Nights: Audience of One, Salvation, The Diamond in the Stars, these are all better than the typical book found in the "Romance" section of your local bookstore.

Long Road, Hocus Pocus, and Fractured Sunlight would blow most YA novels out of the water.

I could go on, but my point is that literature is dead, drowned in a sea of garbage indistinguishable from fanfiction.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaDknBpqZSo&feature=youtu.be
Rainbow Blubber by Defacatus Piccolitus

People ask for the weirdest shit.
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>>28579462
Isn't that one of Bleedin's alts?
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>>28579275
I'm sorry anon, but I'm going to have to ask you to give you're pass back.
This is not VIP quality.
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>>28579134
This. It made more of an emotional impact on me than anything else.
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>>28579504
Hell if I know.

The guy who requested it seems more calm and collected then Bleedin.
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>>28579572
Couldn't say for sure...
I liked Vernacular Torture, though.
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>>28579504
>Isn't that one of bleedins alts?

Everyone is bleedin.
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>>28579619
That would be a terrific homebrew.
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>>28579342
I meant as in the 'literary fiction', distinguished from 'genre fiction'. At least as those two terms are commonly understood. This might sound stupid considering it's pony fiction and all.
>literature is dead
Eh, there was and always will be a majority of crap.
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Can someone remind me of the quite popular/lengthy story where Luna stayed in power instead of Celestia and raised Twilight (or possibly Trixie) to be her emissary?
Can't recall much else other than the story was a bit dark. The uni protag might have also been picked up from an orphanage or something instead.
Last time I read it was at least 3 years ago.
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>>28580765
Oh and its not the Lunaverse one-shot fic series.
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>>28576151
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_123
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>>28578806
500 and 502 are different kinds of errors.
500: there's a bug in the server code, it tried to do something invalid (like divide by zero, or read a database entry that doesn't exist) and crashed
502: server is overloaded, there are too many requests coming in and it can't handle them all
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>>28580765
Sounds like Night's Favoured Child, the famous deadfic
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/5523/nights-favoured-child
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>>28581157
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/5523/nights-favoured-child
That's it. Thank you friend!
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>>28580919
I dont see the correlation to that wiki link and the story referred
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>you write well technically but you can't come up with a good idea to save your own life
Anyone else like this?
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>>28537505
I would start the Conversion Bureau genre.
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>>28582817
>>28537751
Would you do as other-anon and do so badly in order to prevent cancerous fads from starting, or would you be trying to do it right?
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>>28582788
opposite here.
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>>28583623
Have you ever read the original fic "The Conversion Bureau"? It was already done badly. Didn't stop Chatoyance from running with it.
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>>28578098
Mendacity.

>>28578558
MENDAAAACIIIITYYYYY!!!
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>>28582788
Fucking yes.

;_;
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So I'm doing this CYOA where the audience gets to be Joffrey Baratheon in Equestria. (I know it's dumb, but it's the fun-to-write kind of dumb.) It's struck quite a few nerves, and I don't see why it would other than the fact that Joffrey is the protagonist. Could you guys maybe look it over and tell me what autism buttons I'm pressing?

Chapter 1:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NRY-6w_eYs5h3R4tSHceBZSztyJ0Eb8-AzGYcjVzY1o/edit?usp=sharing

Chapter 2:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eG-37ZP9sxClsu0sZNsuITGcsUulnnLqRN7KagAwqsI/edit?usp=sharing
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>>28585353
There are better threads for this.
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>>28585371
This CYOA is on Fimfiction.
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>>28585222
mendacity could have easily done well as original fiction by changing a few names. dude sold himself short by making that fanfiction. same for pirene honestly
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i want to try and write some fetish clop, but ive never written clop before. wat do
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>>28585990
Have sex.
You can't write believable clop otherwise.
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>>28586007
i don't think i'm gonna have sex with a parasite work that crawls in the end of your dick, so i think i'm safe to write about it w/o experiencing it
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>>28586013
you cant write what you dont know. now go jam a tapeworm in your dick and see if it gets you off
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>>28586034
This.
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>>28586034
mind control dick parasite that tries to spread itself...

don't think that exists IRL
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>>28586059
Just take some acid before you do it.
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>>28586007
>>28586034
I feel like we've had this discussion before.
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>>28586284
we've been doing this for 175+ threads now.

we've had every discussion before. repeatedly
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>>28586284
If you've never died before and you get it wrong, it's fine, because most people haven't died before, so they won't know the difference.

Sex is a slightly more common occurrence. In fact, there's probably tens of thousands of people having sex right this instant somewhere in the world.
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>>28585990
Think about what it would take to turn you on, and what you would want to see if you were reading it. Write that.
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So just a heads up- we gonna need a standby overnight bump guy.


'cause even if I dont die its highly likely my internet connection will

so whats everyone else doing tonight?
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>>28586349
>implying anyone in this community has ever had sex
The only person qualified to write about fucking mares in this thread is Regidar,
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>>28586349
I notice you completely ignore the time-travel argument because you have no way to refute it.
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>>28586476
It's pretty easy to write time travel. In fact, I haven't read a single story that didn't involve characters moving forward in time.
I don't want to brag, but I have a lot of experience with wasting time myself.
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>>28586476
you've been a time traveler since the moment you were born
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>>28586446
>Think about what it would take to turn you on, and what you would want to see if you were reading it. Write that.
So basically write for what makes me go?
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>>28587245
That would be sound advice if what gets you off isn't some unique incomprehensible fetish.
Unless you plan to have only yourself jerk off to your story.
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>>28587353
I mean, there is a group on fimfic for what i'm planning on writing, just not that many stories in it
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>>28587464
>there is a group on fimfic for what i'm planning on writing
so... you already know its shit but youre going to go through with it anyway?
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>>28587500
yeah, i mean i've also got a serious-ish HiE in the works
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>>28587543
>HiE
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>>28587574
Yeah, the KKK comes to Equestria to lynch the lone nigger who managed to get himself to Equestria to escape the KKK.
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>>28587636
yes pls
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>>28587636
if I was that black guy I'd be like "damn kkk, you chased a black guy across dimensions? you need a hobby"

VC:lynch st
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>>28587636
edgy af tbqh
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Okay, I'm back after being gone for quite a while, anything interesting happen on fimfiction in the last couple of months? Any good stories or interesting concepts? What have been your favourite fics during the S6 time?

>>28587245
With clop and things that don't have much meaning behind them really comes down to invoking very specific emotions, in this case, arousal. Write what gets you going, mimicking the thoughts, emotions and sensations you imagine when thinking about whatever the fetish is.

>>28587543
If you write HiE, in general, please don't start your writing process with "stuff that happens". Might sound counter-intuitive, but, really the market is so saturated, that it'd be nice to see something that has some sort of a meaning behind it. And no, "protag was a sad edgy character with trust issues and now found real love" is not even close to real meaning.

>>28587636
I was gonna defend the notion of HiE not being inherently bad, but you deserve every bit of crap that'll get thrown at you.
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>>28587742
Well, it's actually about two men getting thrown into Equestria and nearly dying in the process.

How could two college educated men survive (Not fucking STEM you autists)?
They sure as shit wouldn't be working at Sweet Apple Acres, that's very physical work. Kinda beneath a professional with 15 years of experience and an MBA.
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>>28587806
>MBA
This raises the question - do you have the knowledge required for this? 15 years of knowledge is something I'm willing to bet 1.73$ you don't have. I'm interested in what you have planned for this, since this sounds like it's just another one "character in a situation that they don't fit in, what a new and exciting fish out of water situation we've NEVER seen before!" fic.

If you've got plans or parts written, I'm sure people here could help you in case you're messing something up.
The feeling of worthlessness when you're trying to finish something, but you know that it's ultimately not that good and whatever ending you put there, it's going to feel tacked on
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>>28587865
Well, off to go write my nasty fetish clopfic, cya
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>>28587883
Off to sleep and then writing and publishing something for the first time. Wish me luck, mate
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Ignore that last post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NbCI042GsU
Tarry Not by PegasusMesa

And here I thought I couldn't do clopfics anymore. I still can't but whatever.
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>>28588306
you fucking serious mate? what is this, amateur hour?
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>>28588458
What're the extensions to improve my 4chinning experience?
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>>28587927
>publishing something for the first time
Be sure to post a link when it goes up so we can all read and downvote it
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>>28588547
ccd0's 4chanX fork is a must-have if you spend more than 5 minutes a day on this site.
I also use OneeChan for ricing, it's amazing.
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>>28588604
>screenshotted an old version of my post
Embarassing.
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>>28588608
now i can shitpost with ease! thanks senpai
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>>28589339
No worries lad. Both are highly customisable so I'd recommend messing with the settings a little and backing them up just in case.
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>>28589350
BEST THING EVER!
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>>28588604
It still amazes me that people don't use/know about 4chanX, despite spending hours here.
I can understand not bothering to rice it up, but not using it at all sounds horrible.
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>>28589357
>>28589381
Notifications, unread post count, automatic archiving and many other 4chanx features are honestly the best, and it takes like a minute to set up. It makes no sense to not use it unless you visit 4chan like once a year, and yet many people still don't.
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why did they delet this fic?

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/349069/1/soccer-milf-adagio/chapter-1
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Oh shit, did some nigga just hit me up all the way from all the way far away someplace that I don't know of.

Shieeeeeet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR1yWkXkzzI

I haven't been in thread for so long. OMG, whats been happenin guys.

Voiceguy is totally not a jew man, I didn't mean it like that. Don't fucking patronize me man.

Any who
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>>28588563
Not very likely, at least not until I feel like I've reached a point I need you people to feel terrible about myself.
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Why is a long expository textwall as the introduction considered bad writing everywhere in the world except Fimfiction? Is it because these guys need to be spoonfed exposition so they don't get confused?
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>>28593327
Doesn't make sense since unless you're doing some crazy AU, introductory exposition shouldn't be needed at all for fanfiction.

But yes fimreaders are retarded so it may be necessary
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>>28593485
>doing some crazy AU
That's what I mean. Even Fallout: Equestria does it. (A large chunk of the first chapter is Littlepip explaining what happened in the Great War, what a Pip-Buck is, and her crush on Velvet Remedy. It bored me to tears, but it was necessary because KKat didn't drip-feed the exposition through the narrative like a good writer would; I suspect he and other Fimfic writers do this because bronies aren't able or willing to piece things together as they go along.) In fact, pretty much all the best rated fics of this type have an infodump of this nature, either in the beginning or close to it.
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>>28593768
This is fanfiction. There isnt going to be anyone reading it who isnt familiar with the core setting, so anything with the M6 doing M6 things in normal horseland isnt going to need an immediate explanation to prevent anyone from wondering what the hell is going on

But with say FoE that is divergent enough from a familiar setting to warrant an expodump, if only to explain why a setting full of friendship and cutesy shit is now full of dong guns, rape, edge and rape.

Honestly I get more aggrivated when non-AUs expodump or have excessive introductory text when unneeded
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>>28593816
Yes, but just the mere presence of an introductory expodump is a turn-off to me since I consider it boring and bad writing. A good story should weave its exposition seamlessly into the narrative, not haphazardly tack it onto the first or second chapter.

Maybe it's just me, as I'm perfectly fine with not knowing absolutely everything at chapter one as long as it isn't so contrived and confusing that it's off-putting. Maybe fanfiction isn't really my thing.
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>>28593979
>'m perfectly fine with not knowing absolutely everything at chapter one as long as it isn't so contrived and confusing that it's off-putting

If nothing were infodumped at the start of foE would you still have a grasp on what was transpiring in chapter 2?

also remember that the franchise youre writing/reading fanfiction about started with an expository infodump which ate up a tenth of the first episode.
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>>28594067
>you still have a grasp on what was transpiring in chapter 2
I wouldn't. But that doesn't mean infodumps are good. That just means FoE isn't well written.
>the first episode
Which was mediocre even by brony standards. The best episodes are still the ones where the story and conflict are introduced naturally.
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>>28594082
>That just means FoE isn't well written
which means you brought up a bad example. expodumps are a bad thing, but if what you're making is going to be offputting or confusing to the uninitiated, then using one is probably better than leaving the readers to wonder whats going on.

of course writing something that doesnt need exposition in the first place works too

>Which was mediocre even by brony standards
a show with a substandard start develops fanwriters who use substandard starts. seems about right
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>>28594152
Depends on how you do the expo though. Just literally telling the reader everything that happened is stupid and bad, but making events happen to imply an expo dump is a bit better.
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>>28594152
>which means you brought up a bad example
I never said it was good -- quite the opposite, in fact. I did say it was popular, which was why I brought it up.

>a show with a substandard start develops fanwriters who use substandard starts. seems about right
Yeah, it is. You're right. It seems counter-intuitive that worse writing habits would get you better ratings, but we do have to consider the demographic.
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>>28593327
Without falling into much condescension, this does make quite a lot of sense. It's no secret that most people on fimfiction don't know much about writing. As such, the most straightforward way to tell the audience things is just that, telling them outright. Really, it's not that people there consider it to be good, they just don't pay attention to the fact that it is there, and accept it as status quo.

There are plenty of stories that don't spoonfeed exposition, and people who do get annoyed by exposition just usually don't notice when it's not there, because it is kind of the most natural way of telling the story.

tl;dr people who know how to read only notice the bad cases, others just don't notice things because of lack of exposure.
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>ITT: people bitch about how good stories don't have early expodumps, apparently having never heard of LotR, Moby Dick, The Last of the Mohicans, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Les Miserables, etc., etc., etc.
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>>28594525
You're misunderstanding or misrepresenting the argument being put forward. Exposition can be done in a natural way, like by slowly explaining the world as we explore it, which is good, or in an unnatural way, for example in the exposition dumps. If a story does an exposition dumb, it detracts from the story and is a flaw. Good stories can have flaws. Just because an element of the story is bad doesn't make it bad, but it can make it worse as a whole.

Besides, if you've written anything, you probably know that most of the writing "rules" are really just guidelines that are there to prevent beginner writers from doing stupid things. Once you really understand some of the rules, subverting them becomes a possibility.

Also, Moby Dick is not a good book
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>>28594525
Hitchhiker's gets a pass because Adams can make anything funny, so it was less expodump and more humorous commentary that also provided information.

I almost gave up on LOTR one chapter in because not only was it an expodump, but it was also an expodump about stuff I didn't care about and didn't really affect the story. I get what he was trying to do with spending all that time in the Shire, but it still bored me to tears.

Never read the others, but from what I heard, Les Mis was riddled with random rants and essays about stuff that padded out the length of the story unnecessarily, so I wouldn't use that as an example either.

In general, a lot of older works of literature tended to be heavier on exposition, I feel, since back then, your audience was more limited in what they could read, so you could force them to sit and listen to all your lectures on the current state of the setting before starting the story. Nowadays, we know better, and that kind of stuff is seen as bad.
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>>28594970
>In general, a lot of older works of literature tended to be heavier on exposition, I feel, since back then, your audience was more limited in what they could read, so you could force them to sit and listen to all your lectures on the current state of the setting before starting the story. Nowadays, we know better, and that kind of stuff is seen as bad.
Right, this is a good point. Back then, people also just didn't read as much, so you couldn't train them in subtlety, so people just had to tell them outright. Proper narrative works of art have progressed a lot, you can even see significant progress when comparing just to a century ago. The thing that has a major effect on this is the fact that for many people, the central thing that is happening is the only thing. By not looking at things around it, they might get confused and not understand what is happening (see: Inception is such a hard movie to follow!)

Now, when most people are literate and read at least a couple of books, making things have a flow from start to end instead of just having a huge dump at some point is getting more accessible, and the only way to really make people understand it and get it more widespread is by discouraging the bad form of exposition dumps and such and, more importantly, praising things that manage to integrate exposition into the story seamlessly.
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>>28536757
I am glad to see a reference to this underrated comic.
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>>28596416
Definitely agreed. I just looked it up on derpibooru, and it has gone completely unappreciated there, which makes me a bit sad.

What did you all think of the leaked finale?
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>>28596428
This comic is either pretentious as fuck or Reggie Watts' routine ponified.
I seriously can't figure out which one it is.
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>>28596694
It's too subtle for them. But whenever I've posted it here (the series had been around for years on his forsaken deviantart) it was appreciated. Raises my opinion of /mlp/.

>>28596813
Imo it defies categorization. It is something completely new. And whenever I've posted it here it generated a controversial dialogue. Art does this.
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>>28596813
The guy who drew it had schizophrenia, if I recall correctly. Even if he didn't, I'd have hard time to call it pretentious, it's mainly surreal instead of trying to claim that it's revealing some sort of deep idea.
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>>28596916
I'm positive the artist must have some kind of schizoaffective disorder.

It's outsider art.
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>>28597002
It's brilliant though in its novelty.
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How long does it usually take for a story to get approved?
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>>28597691
submit 2 and get auttoapproval nigga
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bamp
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>>28594620
>You're misunderstanding or misrepresenting the argument being put forward.

I don't think he is.

"A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away..."
...is an info dump everyone likes.

And you're right, Moby Dick is not a good book... it is a great one.

>>28594970
>back then, your audience was more limited in what they could read

Mwuh?

The fact is, writing is an art, and art styles come in and out of fashion. The Victorians wrote beautifully, even if it is not appreciated by many now.
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>>28600169
>beautifully
its antiquated and as such the barely literate plebes can barely understand it therefore its now bad *tips fedora
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>>28600169
>...is an info dump everyone likes.
And that first line is all anyone remembers.
The rest of that shit scrolls too fast get read everything else
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>>28596453
I like how this actually has a punchline, as opposed to a certain other mentally ill ponyfag's comics.
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>>28602541
>durr
the only time I couldn't keep up was when I was 8
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>>28602862
What a thoroughly entertaining comic strip. tears, tears stream down my face as my sides approach saturn at relativistic speeds. I can hardly bear any more frivolity after this


Truly the fecal fairys MSpaint skills are on par with Michelangelo's second cousins developmentally challenged, paint chip eating, inbred, blind, retarded, somalian zika baby
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>>28600169
>The Victorians wrote beautifully,

Fuck off Wilde
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>>28603003

Pshaw. The only thing worse than being told to fuck off, is not being told to fuck off.
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>>28600169
>...is an info dump everyone likes
Not really. It's mostly useless, really, and people like it mainly because of nostalgia. It's not like the story is bad, but the dump detracts from the mystery.

>art styles come in and out of fashion
Generally yes, but there are a lot of improvements, and most of change in writing has been evolutionary. Some of the most talked about classics have major issues with the flow, and their structures are often barely there. The themes explored are very similar, though, which does leave some to taste.

>>28601458
Posts like this are why normal discussion doesn't get a lot of attention at times.

>>28602912
As much as I agree that it's definitely easy to keep up with for most people, keep in mind that reading speed doesn't tell much about the person, so why be a prick for no reason?
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>>28603081
All discussion on this thread at least is quite useless.
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>>28603220
I like settings and world building. these assburgers who hate info dumps are the same people who felate the new changeling designs and say the ending totally made sense and was well paced.
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>>28603391
>the new changeling designs and say the ending totally made sense and was well paced.

What happened again?
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>>28603391
>>28603419
spoilers please? I'm waiting for 720p
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>>28603454
This.
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>>28603391
>these assburgers who hate info dumps are the same people who felate the new changeling designs
Yeah no, that's a random, arbitrary and just false. I don't even see how you'd make the connection, even.
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>>28603391
>>28603419

Just watched it shortly.

>It's another Starlight sucks everyone's dick and goes back to the people she abused and ruined lives of without any consequences episode
>Changelings get reformed
>Happy ending, no consequence, all is great

I don't like plain info dumps, but this has to be one of the worse season finales I flew through
.

>>28603454
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4waj5m
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C-oFNrXFh8
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>>28603472
>480p
Can you read?
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>>28603478
>Being this autistic for 720p
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>>28603489
>watching in absolutely garbage quality just to bring yourself even closer to the hiatus
?????????
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>>28603489
>>28603495
>being dicks to people for completely inconsequential reasons instead of accepting that people like different things
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>>28603495
>Being autistic about having 9000000000000000p 4k resolution instead of just "enjoying" the show

Also shitty 1300 or so screen for me :^(

Just watch it.
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>>28603508
480p is literally unwatchable on any modern screen. I'm not willing to stab my eyes with those pixels just to get to see a cartoon episode a little early.
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>>28603508
No.

>>28603495
>>28603521
This guy is right. Part of the main appeal of pony is the animation. Furthermore, the upcoming two episodes may reveal more about character relations that will make the finale more enjoyable.
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>>28603535
>Upcoming 2 episodes

Wait, wasn't S6 over now?
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>>28603589
New episode today, new episode next week.

Why do you think the finale is in shitty quality? It's a leak.
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>>28604141
Oh. Just realized the finale part 2 leak is supposed to be released October 22nd.
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>>28603495
shouldnt the quality of the media match the quality of the content?
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>>28604345
>Watch earlier season episodes in 1080p and later episodes in shit quality

Actually a decent idea for bored people.

While we're on the subject, which season did you dislike the most and why? Let's not get into which is the best, since we'll probably have a shitstorm slightly weaker than GiE.
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>>28604394
Season three, no contest. I did this silly spreadsheet thing where I rated my enjoyment of separate episodes and then compared seasons, and season 3 was by far the least enjoyable one for me. It had multiple outright bad episodes, very few good moments and a lot of mediocrity between.
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>>28604394
4 was the worst in my opinion.
>discord catches a cold
>speedysnooze is literally retarded
>a princess is required to mediate at the swap meet
>soooooo much buildup to the fucking ponlympics
>rainbow power
>rebuild castle for no explicable purpose
>stop rebuilding castle for no explicable purpose
>even in his fantasies, spike is a useless waste of space

and so few redeeming qualities
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>>28604394
I really disliked S3, since it really seemed rushed for such an important goal in Twilight's life, with her gaining it without actually doing anything special.

S6 comes close, since Starlight is just washed of all her sins instantly and doesn't experience any kind of real regret of her actions for most of it. She could have been dug really deeper to see how someone against friendship learns how important it is, like Twilight in S1E1-2.
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>>28604661
I agree about Starlight not being explored enough. She was in just a couple of episodes, and the general feel was that most episodes just were written before they knew that Starlight could be involved.
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>>28604632
>>discord catches a cold
He didn't ACTUALLY.
And the episode itself was hilarious. Easy 9/10.
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>>28605009
I didn't really enjoy it. to each their own
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>>28605658
We probably just have different tastes. I personally love Discord episodes (except for the DnD one, that was shit).
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>>28587673
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>>28594620
I read half of Moby Dick, and realized that while the man can write great metaphors, that he is long winded and his pacing suffers. Even if he was IMHO trying to set up a feeling of tragic fate, or destiny, he fails because he gets distracted by a dozen other topics like god and nature which erases the mood that he attempted to set.

It seems like the type of book that an olde english teacher would give to you not because it's a good book, but because it looks pretentious and the density of topics raised force you to do the bulk of the work instead of him.

Feel free to tell me that I'm shit though. I am always amused by other perspectives.
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>write one almost-decent story 3 years ago
>never get the spark again
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>>28606591
>write half of an almost-decent chapter 3 months ago
>never get the spark again
At least you finished SOMETHING, I can't even finish this sente
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>Voicefag cashing in on FNAF fags
Still doing your best to get that mad YT dosh, huh?
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>>28596416
>>28596428
>>28596453
I had to wait till my ban expired to express how much I am in love with this comic. Poignant. Eloquent. Insightful. Just all-around exquisite.

If Hasbro/DHX ever comes to their senses and kicks Haber/Vogel to the curb, I want them to hire the genius behind this comic. The sheer quality and artistic merit oozing out from this masterpiece is on par with the greatest Quentin Tarantino films.
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>>28607366
Wow, what adulation. Yes, its medium belies its merit.

But personally, I loved Vogel's Glimmer episode — Every Little Thing She Does. Do you really think this was poor? It explored a scenario that would be impossible with any other character and expanded greatly on Glimmer's character. She may be trying to be good but she lacks a moral compass and still views other ponies as tools to be manipulated for her advancement even in the context of friendship lessons. It was a great episode.
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>>28607542
This concept was explored far more effectively in The Cutie Map. With the same character, I might add, except more consistently written.
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>>28607592
I don't disagree but there is a key difference: Vogel's was post-reformation and it shows she still has this character flaw. Before, one could pass it off as her being "evil". But now, it's revealed to be in fact a fundamental (albeit endearing) incapacity of hers, part of who she is.
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>>28607366
I just read through them. I won't try to say they're incredibly deep or something, as they're not and the author at least admits it's just schizophrenic rambling. It's a pretty nice read, and you actually learn some stuff from one or two comics.

>>28607661
There isn't really any reformation, unless it happened in the hiatus between S5 and S6. Starlight instantly goes from "Fuck cutie marks, remove individuality" to "I suck everyone's dick with friendship because I'm so sorry".

I don't really believe it's that easy to change an opinion she had for at least 20 years and make her go to the entire opposite spectrum on the subject. She should have been clashing with Twilight to some extent, while trying to convince herself she was indeed wrong.
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>>28607661
If we're going to assume this episode was thought through well enough to express this sort of thing in any meaningful way, we need to dispense with this notion that everything the main characters does is good and anyone who opposes them is evil. (I'm of the opinion that the obliviousness was played for cheap laughs; an actual sociopath would know at least enough to go through the motions.)

Twilight Sparkle did essentially the exact same thing in Lesson Zero, then didn't express any remorse for it until after she was told how she was wrong. Vogel's episode was a shoddier iteration of Lesson Zero.
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>>28607691
Well this is where it gets into headcanon territory. I think the reason she acts like that and wants to impress Twilight so badly is that she views it (be it consciously or subconsciously) as her new means for advancing in society and achieving her goals, and in pursuit of this goal she still views other ponies as tools to be manipulated (c.f. Every Little Thing).
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>>28607729
Twilight did that for very different reasons, though. She was having an anxiety attack which drove her to irrationality. Glimmer experienced no such thing. They thus reveal very different things about the respective characters, and the episodes are fundamentally different.
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>>28607730
As much as she's pretty much a socialist/egalitarian, I'd view her much more (as an individual) as an individualist, who doesn't want to follow others to achieve her goals, mainly when she loses her friend.

Instead of gitting gud and finding him in CSGU through hard work and conformity, she goes full madness and decides to follow her own idea of removing cutie marks altogether. Either she likes doing it the hard way, or she's bent on making a world for her and those she loves, not for anyone else. I would have thought she'd still view Twilight as an enemy, and instead go on some reflective pilgrimage instead of associating with her immediately.

But yes, this is entirely headcanon and heavily influenced by how we interpret characters.
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>>28607763
Glimmer is very emotional and empathic in other episodes in season six, and even if she wasn't having an outright panic attack, she still showed signs of stress and concern. You might say that it wouldn't be a realistic leap from that to what she did, and I would agree, but I don't give Vogel so much credit that I'd assume he did something profound, especially when it's inconsistent with everything else we've seen.
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>>28607542
You know, I think I recognize you from somewhere else. Do you have a Fimfiction account?
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>>28606933
You know it!

It's actually pretty good
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>>28608644
Hey, voicefag. Now that I've reaquired my fimfic account. Can you please finally finish what you started? It's up if you need it on my fimfic account. Ive been waitimg for part three for so long.
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>>28608468
Yes, but I don't write and comment seldom.
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Who the fuck?
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Holy shit, I finished the entirety of the Savage Skies series.

Now I don't know what to do with myself.
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>>28609942
I still need to know if I'm right; curiosity is killing me. But if you don't want to, I understand.
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>>28610513
move on to blooming moon chronicles
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>>28606291
Nah, I think your opinions are pretty good regarding this, and I really don't care for it enough to argue much.

>>28604632
Season 4 is my second least favourite one, but most of the episodes just seemed mediocre instead of being outright bad, and there was some nice stuff inbetween.

tfw you finally put something up and turns out that people who favourited you work are just people who favourite literally everything they read.
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[Pt. 1]

>>28585353
I would say to refer to the CYOA general thread >>28585402 as they are the ones who deal in that genre, Fimfiction or not.

>>28585990
Pick what type fo a clopfic you want to do PWP oneshot or multichapter plot with clop. Then write it. I'm a fan of a high level of detail when it comes to the fetish material, but there are those who prefer less detail so they can "fill in the blanks" with their own preferred niche of the fetish.

If you can avoid turning off potential readers by using a broader or more accepted fetish scenario (i.e. soft vore instead of hard vore) or not having a dark ending that might taint the clop, I'd recommend doing so to maximize the audience. That might be unavoidable, though, depending on the fetish.

Above all else: if you're not getting aroused by what you're writing, the reader's probably not either. That means write scenarios you already fap to. It'll be clear right from the start what the scene's supposed to be about and will likely make you reach diamond status.

>>28586059
>don't think that exists IRL
There's that ant zombie fungus. I don't think it spreads via the dick, though.

>>28587806
>MBA
I don't think there's be a huge issue for them. Equestria's got a ton of companies. Marketing might be a challenge, but they could adapt.

Funny you should mention SAA, given how shitty the Apples are at actually managing their company. Granny Smith's excuse for not letting Filthy sell cider is bullshit since fresh cider can last for weeks when refrigerated. They're flushing millions down the toilet.

>>28596416
I love Horselover Fat's comics. Pic related.

>>28596694
>finale
8/10. Kinda sucks the changelings got redeemed but it was a lot better then I was expecting.
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[Pt. 2]

>>28604394
S6 is really in the running for me. They completely fucked up Starlight's character arc by not making it a slow transition from evil to redeemed, wasting or not even using plots for her (returning to Our Town, the Hearth's Warming episode accomplishing nothing for her, etc.), and making her generally unlikable ("You're accusing him of being downright evil."). Then, they screwed up Dash's big moment by making it a cringe episode and relied way, way too much on standard sitcom/cartoon plots (put a sports team together, zombies, rashomon, etc.) instead of mining the setting/characters for ideas.

>>28604843
This. It really felt like they wanted to do this big character arc thing, complete with a "backslide" moment as the mind control episode and the big achievement of her conquering her fears about leading again in the finale, then said fuck it and didn't properly set up either in favor of cliche plots.

>>28607542
Don't write her as a sociopath if you don't intend to actually explore it. And especially don't explicitly refer to the act as being "downright evil" in a previous episode and then resolve things faster than it takes to resolve a bad boat trip.
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>>28612210
>given how shitty the Apples are at actually managing their company
What do we actually know about the apples? Fanon seems to put SAA as the flagship farm of the apple clan, making it to be the largest and most productive farm in the world

But it has 4 pones living there, one being a geriatric that doesnt do much of anything, another being a child and not productive, one who spends most of her time fucking off with her friends...

So I can't believe that SAA is the biggest and best farm in the world when it has only one full time worker.

Has anyone been bored enough to break down the facts and separate that from headcanon? not just apples but for any of the main six?

bump
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>>28612921
>Fanon seems to put SAA as the flagship farm of the apple clan

Unless they have some kind of apple monopoly, I doubt SAA is the flagship farm of all Equestria. They're maybe one of the largest family owned farms in Central Equestria (Canterlot and surroundings), but since we know we're in some 1900s something setting with Manehatten, there has to be some bigger company doing stuff.

If Flim & Flam are a pair of ambulant charlatans and they managed to make a """""cider""""" (Which is apple juice considering how they make it) squeezing machine, I don't doubt that some bigger company actually has a factory full of them.
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>>28612921
>>28612944
Basically nothing about how SAA is claimed to work makes sense. They are somehow constantly on the brink of bankrupcy, yet we always see them succeed at everything, and the amount of apples they seem to produce should easily be enough to support them, plus the earnings from cider and zap apple stuff seem to be significant too. Whenever we see the internals of how they work, it makes zero sense, like the episode this season in which Applejack lost all of the common sense regarding farmwork.

Also worth mentioning is the fact that bucking apples would make them impossible to store for more than very short amounts of time.
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>>28613787
Well, there is one valid explanation for all of this.

.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................magic................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
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>>28613819
>>28613787
That, or they seek to control the apple market by creating artificial scarcity.
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I've got a pitch for a FimFic story

My name is Rob Schneider. Once I was an ordinary office worker, twiddling my life away in a cubicle. Everything changed for me when I was involved in a freak electrical accident. Now I've been transported to a magical world full of talking ponies. Not only that, I can channel electricity through my now pony body.

This is the story of Arc Flash, a true Equestrian superhero.
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>>28614122
I would rather gouge my eyes out with a knife.
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>>28614136
About two and a half years ago, I was pulled into Equestria. I was removing a high-line breaker out of the panel board, and apparently there was an un-fused conductor coming off of this panel. When I moved the conductor, I heard a buzz, then after that a major explosion. I was able to get my eyes closed, I think, and my head back a little bit. It blew me back on the floor. Next thing I remember I was standing in the corner and I couldn't see. My shirt and stuff was on fire, which I didn't realize at the time. I yelled for help and this pony came into the room, took me outside, and put me out with a fire extinguisher. I was in the hospital for about three weeks after that.
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>>28614165
My Grandfather smoked his whole life. I was about 10 years old when my mother said to him, 'If you ever want to see your grandchildren graduate, you have to stop immediately.'. Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized what exactly was at stake. He gave it up immediately. Three years later he died of lung cancer. It was really sad and destroyed me. My mother said to me- 'Don't ever smoke. Please don't put your family through what your Grandfather put us through." I agreed. At 28, I have never touched a cigarette. I must say, I feel a very slight sense of regret for never having done it, because your post gave me cancer anyway.
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>>28614122
>>28614165
>>28614177
please stop
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>>28614122
If that worked, I'd be transported to an alternate dimension each time I channel static electricity (which happens very often).
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>>28614206
I sexually Identify as a meme. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of being uploaded onto the imgur website and linked into the reddit threads. People say to me that a person being a meme is Impossible and I'm fucking retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a computer scientist put my brain into my computer like johnny depp in transendence, equipping me with the dankest of pictures from the internet. From now on I want you guys to call me "Sir Danks-a-lot" and respect my right to meme from above and meme needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a memephobe and need to check your internet privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
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>>28614206
eh. 29 posts left in the thread. this is normal for our end of thread stupidity
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Is Pepe the frog really an alt-right propaganda piece? Will my fanfic be downvoted to hell if I choose to introduce Pepe as a character?
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Give me a good feature box story idea wotthy of the said box.
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>>28614965
King Thorax gets gangbanged by a few of his favorite subjects in a frenzied attempt to reproduce the species (in lieu of a queen who would normally have no problem with this).
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>>28614982
More
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>>28614989
More what? Detail? I'm not writing your fanfic for you; I'm not even a smut writer. Just look at any bunch of M/M gangbang clopfics and copy that formula with the premise I gave you.
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>>28615015
I meant more ideas. FLOOD IT ALL.
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A story I am working on. I welcome all criticism.
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>>28614965
Adolf Hitler appears in Equestria.

That's it. All it needs to get on front page.
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>>28615038
Queen Chrysalis kidnaps Starlight and turns her into her S&M sub.

DiscordxTrixie ship fic

Party Favor assfucks Double Diamond

Twilight becomes an earth pony

Trixie grows a futa dick and assfucks Starlight
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>>28615083
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/170851/heil-super-friends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIXBNsG7zFU

THE best and only good HiE.
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>>28615079
>there
>are,
>Find out in, To Rescue a Princess, a goodponistories producton.

Your intro needs better spelling and needs something that the reader can relate to. I know you're taking cues from the back of books for your intro, but it seems generic as any other book in a bookstore. That last sentence in particular makes you seem pretentious.

>relatively long intro exposition
>Brian the pony
Maud is an edge case backed by canon. Other than that, don't name your poners human names.

>shit eating grin
>playfully smacked
>snickered
Using synonyms for said and using stereotypical metaphors is taboo for good prose. (some people may disagree with the former, but it's a bad sign that the author wants to tell, not show)

All we get in the beginning paragraphs is a boring intro and the fact that "Brian" has a crush on Twilight.

No personality. No exciting media res action. Nothing to hook the reader.

>Eventually he was able to find solace in Luna's sweet night. Little did Brian know, this would be the last good sleep he would get for a long time.
If I wasn't in a good mood, I would rip this a new one.

Generic placeholder text in order to push the story forward is the opposite of what you should do. What about background motivations, sweeping descriptions of Equestria, or engaging conversation between two fleshed out characters using unique metaphors and similies?

>"Great my friends are dead, the princess is gone, and I am all alone in this forest of creatures that could eat me alive at any moment." Brian slammed his hooves on the log he was standing next to. Then with nothing to lose he continued along the path, hoping he could find something that could help him or someone.
Don't have your character speak out loud everything that is going on or what the reader already knows.

I can't read anymore.

What I want you to do is to read more books, read more articles on how to write, and stamp SHOW DON'T TELL on your forehead until you actually get it.
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>>28615237
>Twilight Sparkle, the princess of Friendship has been kidnapped by dark forces in the Everfree forest. They plan to use her to further there evil plans. The only ones who can save the day are, a guard, a criminal, and a wise man.

This pretty much gives away what could be a punch, Twilight getting captured. Why must so many writers include their trigger element in the synopsis? It removes all interest we could have of seeing what happens.

>The guard Brian, has never been on an adventure before; the criminal has never used his work for good; and the wise man has nothing to live for. How can these three ponies rescue a princess. Find out in, To Rescue a Princess, a goodponistories producton.
>Three normal guys do something out of the extraordinary!

This idea has been played on so many times I don't even want to skim through your 1500 ish words.
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>>28615304
Oops, meant to quote >>28615079
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>>28615237
>some people may disagree with the former
I would disagree in a few cases, where it would be expedient to use one when neither the dialogue nor its content is enough to help the reader understand how it's being delivered. E.g. if the character shouts something in an abrupt outburst.

But Sturgeon's Law applies here just as it does with everything else. Most fanfic writers use said bookisms in a superfluous manner in the misguided belief that it's a valid way of avoiding the redundancy of saying "he/she said" at every line of dialogue. (Joke's on them. There are ways to do this that not only avert it, but make the dialogue better overall.)
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https://www.fimfiction.net/story/349483/the-nesquick-rabbit
A story I worked on. I welcome all feedback.
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>>28615337
>nor its context*
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>>28615237
>(some people may disagree with the former, but it's a bad sign that the author wants to tell, not show)

Well, it does have something to do with your mother tongue too.

I don't know for other languages, but French relies heavily on synonyms or variations of "said" (dit in French is the equivalent to say in the past term), ranging from describing the manner the words are said to their context, words like "remarqua-t-il (remarked), entonna-t-il (similar to speaking loud, in a projective voice), grommela-t-il (grumbled), and so on. We have around a minimum of 4 words to describe what Anglos would replace by "cried".
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>>28615237
Thanks for your criticism, this is my first time writing an adventure story, and I am glad you gave an in depth critique. I am sorry if you wasted time reading my story. Thank you for your effort.
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>>28615337
>There are ways to do this that not only avert it, but make the dialogue better overall.
Tell me senpai. Or at least give me a keyword to search via google.
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>>28615426
>I am sorry if you wasted time reading my story

Not him, but you're not wasting anyone's time. There are always people out here and in the thread willing to help you, and that's way better than having random Fimfic idiots read your story and give you an upvote.
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>>28615426
>I am sorry if you wasted time reading my story.
It's not wasted time because it's not really in depth, nor did it take a lot of time.

Go to the OP and read the links. Then try to focus on one thing to fix and then a sub set of it. Like focus on dialogue and then specialize your efforts on just making sure you can tell personalities apart by how they talk. Or focus on writing a backstory for each character by searching on google for a good guide.

It makes self improvement less daunting.
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>>28615437
Action tags. These are the bread and butter of good dialogue. Characters should have face and body language just like real people do. Saying that the character reacted one way or another to something that was said or done not only gives you a seamless way of telling the reader who's talking, but also show a bit about how the character feels about what he/she has just experienced. You should also ideally give your characters something to do so you have more opportunities to use action tags, but it's not necessary; it is possible to write six characters talking while doing nothing but sitting around a table while still using said sparingly (don't try this at home).

Also, a tip for making dialogue less stilted: limit how much a character says in one line. Unless it's explicitly a prepared monologue or explanation, it shouldn't me more than a couple sentences. Exchanging small quips is how people and characters speak naturally.
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>>28615348
>No crit

Wassup why no crit
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>>28615566
Oh. A bit of a warning. Doing this requires the reader to be able to understand social cues, so any autists in your audience will be alienated from it, and will probably put you, the writer, at fault for it. So it might be better to just use said or its synonyms if you want to be autist-friendly (which you do if you ever want to get dat horse fame).
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>>28615348
HE'S BACK!!!
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>>28615932
HE'S BLACK!!!
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>>28615932
literally who?
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>>28616014
Fuck off newfag.
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>>28616014
Only the greatest author on all Fimfiction. Bleeding Equine.
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>>28616018
>>28616030
>Still no crit

Come on now, don't be shy.
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someone making new thread?
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>>28615393
Ditto for Italian, where using "dire" ("say") constantly is considered both repetitive and typical of Grade School children.
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>>28616403
>>28615393

Those are not differences between English and your languages. In English, having sentences constantly end in "____ said" is ALSO considered repetitive, typical of children's writing, and generally bad.

The standard saidism advice is not that every sentence should end in "said." Good authors, including good ponyfic authors, use a variety of phrases and sentence structures to avoid unnecessary repetition, including but not limited to: breaking up dialogue with physical descriptions; eshewing any saidism at all; and using an appropriate saidism, i.e. one that communicates something which enhances or expands upon what could reasonably be inferred from dialogue.

If you read a story that had stuff like:

>"Come on, Twilight!" Spike said.
>"Just a minute, Spike!" said Twilight.
>"Will you two hurry the fuck up?" said Rainbow Dash.
>"Ee-yup," Big Mac said.

You would rightly call it shitty writing. That doesn't make this:

>"Come on, Twilight!" Spike exhorted.
>"Just a minute, Spike!" proclaimed Twilight.
>"Will you two hurry the fuck up?" declared Rainbow Dash.
>"Ee-yup," Big Mac elucidated.

Any better; if anything, it's much worse. In English as well as the Romance languages, the equivalent of this:

>"Come on, Twilight!" Spike glared up the stairs at Twilight's still-shut door.
>"Just a minute, Spike!" she answered.
>"Will you two hurry the fuck up?" shouted Rainbow Dash from the foyer.
>"Ee-yup," said Big Mac, to nopony in particular.

Is inarguably better.
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>>28616675
I mean that's still repetitive. The point is to eliminate the act of speaking while only leaving dialogue. You do this in the first sentence with
>"Come on, Twilight!" Spike glared up the stairs at Twilight's still-shut door.
But fall right back into it with
>answered
>shouted
and even
>said

Ideally, dialogue can be used to show more than just what's being said. If a character has a habit of running late, you use the rest of the cast to display the appropriate exasperation in response. It's only necessary to actually write out some of the dialogue verbatim, the rest of the time a summary of the important details, the gist of what was said and done (especially when the reader already knows what's being said, such as in a recap of recent events to get another character up to speed), and perhaps some other scene elements, will create a more authentic, smooth, and natural section of character interaction.
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>>28616675
Example 2 is just bad because the words chosen are bad. French really relies more on using synonyms instead of said for the first statement. We usually leave no other marks for the rest of the dialog, except for some action breaks.

And as >>28616949 said, the last example isn't any better. Removing the tags and putting in some action is better.

Also new thread anyone?
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>>28616675
>"Come on, Twilight!" Spike glared up the stairs at Twilight's still-shut door.
>"Just a minute, Spike!" she answered.
>Dash started to fly in lazy circles, her hooves draping from her body, but her shoulders betrayed the tension in her body. "Will you two hurry the fuck up?"
>Big Mac sat on the doorway entrance, away from the others.
>"Ee-yup"

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