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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZs5n4uMk_Y
http://vivareverie.tumblr.com/post/148261227901/regarding-the-removing-of-my-older-videos
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>>28041831
>Rainbow Dash Is Excited
>gone
>mfw
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>>28041831
I don't think this is what anyone wanted.
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>>28041831
>inb4 anons start playing armchair lawyer
All I can say on the legal issue that using stolen assets only proves "actual copying," so two elements of copyright infringement, depending on which circuit court jurisdiction such a case would be heard in, left needed to be proven: that the matter is copyrightable, and that there is substantial similarity of the copyrightable portions of both works. I won't speculate on what a court would decide on those two elements because it could go either way depending on which circuit a federal court is in and because: It doesn't matter if such use violates Hasbro's rights. It could be damaging if one were to try to make a professional career in the field as any company could view it negatively and consider you an unnecessary risk. Therefore I think the move is a good one in the long term. I just hope that there are backups.
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>>28041897
This.
I know about stealing assets but cmon. You act like everyone is off to get you. Almost nobody really cares unless you do a mass distribution of the assets to your animators.
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>>28041947
IP and copyright law is too much of a mess to make a call on here. I just know Reverie's work was loved by the fandom, even by /mlp/, and I honestly think the complaints about KP using Hasbro's animation assets are far from the reason why she's being targeted. The fandom's angry with her because of how she treated others. Reverie did nothing of the sort.

Whether your work is high or low quality, you'll be appreciated by the fandom if you put in effort, respect your critics, and don't expect anything in return. It's clear that these videos were made for the right reasons. They deserve to last.
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>>28041831
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Particle man, particle man...
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>>28042074
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pY0gZRb8kE
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>>28041831
>…And all this because I wanted to make some stupid shit and entertain some people. Fuck me.

Waaaah. Feel sorry for meeeee!

Why? Like he said in the blog post, literally nothing has happened. He's saved his own hide, but he's acting like he's been through 'Nam and back.

Why are bronies so fucking melodramatic.
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>>28042263
>Why are bronies so fucking melodramatic.
ARE YOU NEW? This fandom is 50% ponies, 70% drama.
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>>28041831
At times like this, I wish we lived in pre-Internet era. You can't unpublish a book, or unbuild the pyramids. It's not okay to destroy art, even your own.
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>>28042412
>You can't unpublish a book
Well, that isn't exactly accurate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_the_Library_of_Alexandria

As much as it sucks seeing a video deleted from YouTube, if it was published anyone could've copied it and even reupload it elsewhere. A physical book might be harder to destroy, it takes more than just a click, but it's also harder to copy to have a backup. So I'm pretty much glad to live in this era. I'm worried as fuck about the future and the DRM systems, though.
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>>28042412
>being this ignorant about how much art has been lost to the sands of time
If anything, the Internet has allowed for the preservation of art like no other.
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>>28041987
Did you not read the blog post?

Viva never said she was being targeted. She removed the videos because they're legally worse than what KP has and thus all the controversy surrounding KP has scared her half to death.
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>>28042554
>she

No shut the fuck up, Viva is in hot gay dads with Bootsy forever, do NOT commit sacrilege against this holy union
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>>28042565
What happens in Pony Town stays in Pony Town.
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>>28042579
What happens in a cheap whorehouse should stay in there yet clearly you're here

fuken rekt
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>>28041831
Why are you here? Don't you have a bronies react to do? Go play with Saber and Littleshy, you beta fag.
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>>28041831
I thought you were cool Viv.
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>>28042263
Because he thinks that he has dodged a bullet. If he actually got an email on skype from a Hasbro-affiliate (which in itself sounds suspicious as hell), then he can reasonably assume that someone out there knows he is using the leaked assets. And given what we currently allow corporations to do to individuals, youtube's notoriously automated claim system, and Hasbro's several C&D's to fans in the past, I would say he is right to be worried, especially since he has monetized. He would probably be fine to continue to use the leaked assets, but there is a non-zero chance that something bad could happen. Taking down the videos and re-animating them is a relatively safe option. It also allows him to re-upload and re-monetize, but I don't think Viv is looking at this from a financial perspective other than 'lawsuits are expensive' .
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I don't care how much of a faggot you are, you are still one of the best person in this fandom
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>>28043306
Why do you samefag Viv?
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>>28043345
This.

What is with all this cocksucking?
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>>28043924
I want to suck Viv's cock.
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>>28043924
Viv was cool, but now that he shown his true face (he just wants people to feel sorry for him, he is a massive drama whore attention seeking faggot), he has felt from my grace.
A simple "I removed my videos because Hasbro can take them down for copyright infringement, sorry people" would have sufficed.
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>>28043955
Yea that makes sense.

But why do "horse famous" people come here every now and then to seek validation? This is the last place you should want attention from. For some reason I think they have in their minds that if they get the big bad 4chan to like them then they must be really great.
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>>28043992
Well dunno if people randomly praised Viv, or he shitposted his own threads when new videos were out, so maybe he browsed and thought "hey people like my shit even in 4chan, that must mean something" kinda like what you say.
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>>28043345
>>28043924
I haven't made any posts to this thread besides OP and this.

>>28042263
>>28043955
Whether you feel sorry for me or not is entirely on you, the main purpose of this post was to spread word about my situation.
Yes it gets emotional, but that's because this is something I've bottled up for a really long time, and I want to make sure people know how much this means to me.
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>>28043955
>he posts is true feelings about the matter on his fucking Tumblr blog
>GOD WHAT AN ATTENTION WHORE
You are beyond retarded.
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>>28044033
If you really like him that much then go and watch his videos reuploaded. You won't get any sympathy from me, shill.
>>28044031
Honestly Viv, I don't know what to think. You say this is not attention whoring, but it looks really ugly.
Anyways, I never subbed to your channel, so I guess I don't count. Enjoy the free views I gave you though, my man.
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>>28043292
The person he is talking about did actually work for Hasbro (or more likely Hubworld) at some point making the Flash games on Hubworld.
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>>28044031
Man, i didn't read anything and don't care about anydrama but I hope you are well.

Yours animation are among the best of the fandom and I am sure you have the best musical sense for animation

Cheers from Brazil
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>>28044031
Viv why do you think spreading the word about your personal situation isn't attention-whoring? It totally is. Especially since you rarely ever come here as you said in the previous thread you made not too long ago. You clearly came here to share to a bunch of strangers your personal problems to get reassurance. But whatever man. I am sure you will grab a few (you)s to satisfy your craving for gratification.
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>>28044033
Stop samefagging.
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>>28044109
Perhaps it was a bit premature. My main driving thought was that maybe someone who knew better than me could go telling me for certain whether what I've done is wrong or not, but since it's likely everyone is basically on the same page it means nothing is probably going to come out of it. Sorry.
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>>28041831
Are you going to redo all of the ones you took down, if not we just lost a lot of great content today
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>>28044167
Just let the videos be "leaked" somewhere else, by "accident", wink wink.
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obligatory nothing of value was lost post
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>>28044172
And Hasbro fist makes sure we lose everything good, yet again.
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>>28044167
Next time perhaps you should add your thoughts along side the youtube link. If you post a youtube link alone of literally a blog post, people are going to think you are seeking their affection and sympathy rather than their thoughts/advice.
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>>28044220
Or he could simply have said that in his tumblr post.
Now it smells like damage control to me.
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>>28044181
Wink wink? What are you implying here?
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>>28044270
Go away, Hasbro staff.
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>>28044270
He's probably just a mare in heat
do you even horse anatomy
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>>28044181
Some were in webum threads on /pone/. You could ask there, maybe someone archived them.
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>>28041831
Jesus fuck, DHX obviously didn't care about him by now.

The anon against KP is obviously an autistic asshole from here, the kind to hate someone for some retarded reason, and then harass him to no end until he leaves the net.

I doubt that guy would have been affected by it. Though I understand his feeling.

Fucking leejun fags though...
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>>28041831
Viva your removed videos will only be reuploaded by random ass people. Like they did with Jan after he removed his videos. Keep them if you can. DHX doesn't give a shit.
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>>28044167
What you did is good and bad. It's good that you're trying to distance yourself from your old work that used these leaked puppets, trying to actually make your own and all. But it's bad that you removed the old works. Re-animate them or do what you will, but taking down the originals, no matter what their content is, is kind of a slap to the face to many.

Best of luck to you.
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>>28044399
>DHX doesn't give a shit
Then why they removed Cupcakes and Smile HD even after so many years? We don't know anon.
This is why I didn't criticize him for removing them, it is alright. I criticize Viv for being an attention whore, but he is cool otherwise.
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>>28044444
>Then why they removed Cupcakes and Smile HD even after so many years? We don't know anon.
Can't say for sure but I would bet money on the fact that Davies was an animator for the show. His overheads may have asked him to cut it out. That is an uneducated guess though. And you have a solid point.

All I am saying is that when Jan took down his videos, people simply reuploaded them and they are still there today. For how much longer know one knows but they have been up for years now. So Viv should expect people to reupload his old videos as a kind of backlash. They are going to get a good amount of views as usual but they won't belong to Viv anymore. So if he reanimates them, then so be it, but he is going to be competing for views against his own videos assuming it plays out this way. He should have kept his videos up for as long as possible until he got the notice in the mail.
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>>28044487
Compelling point. But again, Viv doesn't have to actually martyrize himself for the fans.
If he lives in fear, then let him be free.
It is not like he owes us shit in the first place, he just made something for fun.
His dreams of making a career out of it are delusions, but whatever. No offense though Viv.
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>>28044499
I see what you mean. Good point. Though I doubt he is still watching this thread since all the samefagging and cocksucking stopped. So who knows if these points will actually reach him.
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>>28044527
Well if he has been here for a while, he knows how this place works. If not he would have ran away like a little bitch at the first sight of trouble. We can only hope.
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>>28043044
Sick burn.
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Hasbro actually loves fan videos, talked about how it is free advertising. But if you felt the need...
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>>28044499
Making a career out of what I do is very much a long-shot, but I do believe that that goal is achievable.

>>28044527
I am still following this thread, and again, I haven't made any posts here without my name and tripcode. I don't know what I can do beyond what I've done already to convince you otherwise.

>>28044399
>>28044487
Even before I removed them some of my videos have been reuploaded, so I don't see reuploads being unlikely. Nonetheless, I don't want to support something that is very likely rather illegal, so until further notice I do want to keep said-videos offline at least personally.
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>>28044683
I think you're being scared away by armchair lawyers and forget that people don't have an axe to grind against you unlike KP.
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>>28044683
Whatever Viv.
Cupcakes and Smile Hd give Hasbro a bad rep, but your videos aren't gore, violent or represent them badly. Better safe than sorry anyways, I doubt they would take any action against you other than a simple mail of C&D, and that would be it. Now if you are thinking they may hire you, then you are sadly wrong. Other than that, you are cool in my book still. Just don't attention whore again, please.
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>>28044683
will you be reuploading your old vids with the new style?
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>>28044683
>I don't know what I can do beyond what I've done already to convince you otherwise.

>>28043119
>>28043306
>>28043944
>>28044033
>>28043292
>>28044172


Are you that new? Take a screenshot of this post and upload it. And no funny business with chrome injection.
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Here you go then.
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>>28044762
What's the point of this anyway? anyone can use even paint to remove the (You)s or even add them if so they want. Waste of time, if you ask me.
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>>28044841
Fair enough to me.

>>28044857
Sounds like more work than the average 4channer is willing to do. But it is certainly possible and I honestly never thought of that. I have always seen people open up chrome html and just uninject the (you)s out of the code. It actually can be quicker than painting them out in paint. But that's just my opinion.
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>>28044875
We just have to believe he isn't a samefagging scum, that's all we have.
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>>28044708
>you are cool in my book still

It's as if people in this thread haven't met him irl.

WeimTime and a couple of us went out of our way to pick him up some food at Ciderfest across town. Viva didn't really even thank us after we paid for his meal. He isn't very discernible with people and is an attention whore at conventions too.
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>>28045033
Kek.
Is it time for drama yet?
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>>28044875
This is why I use 4chanX's multiple post cosmetic options. It would be improbable for me to edit all that out for the sake of damage controlling being a samefag so it's harder "proof" when I'm not.
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>>28045047
Nah not worth it. He isn't as bad as KP and at least he will admit he is looking for recognition and attention.
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>>28045076
That's why i said "cool IN MY BOOK" as he is cool for all I know, but I don't know much, so yeah take it with a grain of salt.
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>>28045076
many people who create things also enjoy being recognized for it. thats not exactly a damnable trait. usually the ones who couldnt care less about being known in any way are the ones who are already well-off.
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>>28045033
Did I not? If I didn't that's totally my bad, I'm not really good with that kind of thing.
Regarding myself and other people at conventions though, I try to only bring myself up when fans recognize me or I'm around people I already know. It's an infinitely thin line to stand on, too far on one side and I'm an introvert who never talks and is uncomfortable to be around, too far on the other side and I'm a gloating attention whore. Not to mention that line is subjective, I could only say hi and still be considered an attention whore around the right people.
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>>28045169
No need to get defensive, Viv.
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>>28045169
Viva, you shouldn't be here. /mlp/ is no place for a pure qt husbando like you.
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>>28045211
THERE WILL BE SEX
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>>28045211
Hey you!, I already claimed him! (kinda) >>28043944
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>>28045169
>I am austistic
You are at home, brah
Stay this weak for the 4ccup
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>>28045117
Right. I completely agree. Viva is fine as long as he doesn't start parading himself at cons.

*cough* KP *cough* *cough*

>>28045169
Viva that is why I used the term discernment. Some people don't pick up on the feelings and gauge the emotions of others to treat them efficiently. I kind of noticed that about you and I think it is possibly because you are letting attention or the desire for it cloud your head. I assume you thanked WeimTime for whatever he gave you at BronyCon right? If not that is what I am talking about. They were mugs or something. I was outside when he was handing them to the panelists.

People admire you Viva and like your work, appreciate that more about people so they leave with a better impression of you. Because me as well as others did not catch that vibe at Ciderfest. We left thinking you only cared for the crowd that makes you popular.
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>>28041831
Read the longass blogpost.

1. The KP "witch hunt" was because a whole bunch of her former employees came forward and said that she was a shit person. Lots of evidence was posted. So backlash naturally happened. I don't think you have to worry about that. The DHX asset thing was just a minor thing.

2. I respect your decision to remove your works. Using someone else's assets is kind of a shit thing to do, but if you're new and can't draw very well then it's better than nothing. But a lot of those animations were very good and a lot of people enjoyed them. Can't you at least leak them or something? Or even better, remake them? (Is that what you plan to do, I didn't really understand that part)

3. I think that a lot of people here are upset because you wrote a longass blogpost on tumblr and then just linked it. You don't seem like an attention whore from the post I read ITT. But the tumblr post sounds very whiney. For the future, you'll get a much better reaction if you sum it up in a few sentences.

>>28045169
>It's an infinitely thin line to stand on
It really is and I think a lot of people understand. Don't let the vocal minority bring you down.

Also, it's only natural to want others to see your creations.

Good luck and I hope you continue to make more content.
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>>28045388
I am one of the fags that got a bit upset about his blogging, and that's not the reason. The reason is that it feels like he is fishing for hugboxing and "yes poor viv, you have suffered so much, oh noes, you are a hero".
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>>28045450
That's pretty much the reaction I got from reading the tumblr blog as well. From the posts in here he seems pretty cool though. I'm guessing it was written for the tumblr and EqD fags and just linked here.
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>>28045450
Where were you when all the shithead animators that were "conned" by KP came here to console each other and rally a personal army anonymously, knowing full well /mlp/ was full of people who already hated her?
>inb4 somebody says "that's different because delicious dramaz"
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>>28045768
But you just said it. /mlp/ is like Discord, we are chaotic, make little sense and we play for the winning team.
Also, anons change over time and so does the perspective of this place. So don't get mad about it, chill out.
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>>28042554
That's not really true either. Those videos weren't knowingly made using Hasbro assets.
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>>28044444
Holy freaking quints.

By the way, they remove Smile HD and Cupcakes because of the story.
Just imagine Suzy, 6 years old, watching Smile HD or Cupcake.
Okay, Suzy nay not have any sequel, because she probably can't understand at this age.
But her mom can.
And she can pursue Hasjew.
So theses videos = possible loss of money (and image quality) for Hasjew.
So, autodafé.
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>>28046162
Bullshit nigger. They last for 4 years up and suddenly they get taken down? the video also explicitly stated that it is 18+, that it is not an official hasbro product and shit, but whatever damage control hasbro shill.
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ITT I still don't get the problem.
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>>28044167
>>28044683
We understand your situation. We just don't want the old videos gone.

Personally, I can see why you'd be worried. /mlp/ can put together enough evidence, real or manufactured, to justify hatred of anyone. On top of that, there are plenty of people who'd be happy to bring down a brony just for the sake of it. I don't think someone like you is ever likely to become a target, though.
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>>28046188
I just don't give a shit about Hasbro.

This was the "official" answer.
Well, the more likely at least (if I remember well, some kind of tweet draw their attention about theses videos and they act within two weeks. But I can't even recall what I eat at lunch).

Anyway, I know that animation is a freaking place when it come to work.

And don't forget that Hasbro's first job is to sell toy.
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>>28046251
Ah alright, should have said that. I thought you simply were shilling BUT MUH HASBRO OVERLURDS.
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>>28041831
First off:

There was no witch hunt with ILKPAL, she brought that upon herself and people called her out for her hypocrisy, people really need to know the difference.

Second: How did one of Hasbro's affiliates even get your Skype information? That part sounds a little far fetched they were the real deal. Would they even bother to do some digging to contact you there instead of YouTube, which is a lot easier to do?

Third: I don't see WHY you're getting paranoid that nobody said a thing about your content. If what you did was illegal and a big deal, you would've received a strike of some kind of notice on your channel like Jan did with his content, Hasbro don't play.
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>>28046464
For the second I know the person he is talking about, and I do know that person did work for Hubworld for at least a year on the Flash games.
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>>28045220
That gif is just reversed, isn't it
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>>28046651
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2VS5o8yKY8
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>>28046677
Oh I didn't make it though. Somebody else did.
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>>28046712
no worries, it was a good post
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>>28041831
Are you a boy or a girl?
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>>28047547
https://derpiboo.ru/1066633
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How can this person be horse famous yet this is the first time I even hear about them?
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>>28047547
The guy that makes the videos, is a guy.
His OC is a female puppet.
>>28047681
People doesn't talk much about Viv, they just post when he makes new videos.
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>>28047681
He makes videos like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmVWvOC_2HU

Also, when did he stop going by IMMATOONLINK?
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>>28047681
It's a bit difficult keeping track of every horsefamous people in the fandom since there's so many, and how others believe people are because of the amount of support they get for their content.
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>>28045312
NotSonataDusk is that you?

Holy hell bro quit stirring up trouble with my name. I almost got into a lot of trouble at Ciderfest because you decide to instigate drama for no damn reason. What is your reasoning now? Because you think Viva forgot to say thank you? Who the fuck cares. I do things for people not for their gratitude but because I actually care about them. Viva actually accepted my panel invite when others wouldn't. That was more than a thank you for a damn burger and mug. He made my somewhat boring panel into something more lively and knowledgeable and made that weekend memorable.

So please dude just stop. Take a break from the drama. It's clearly running your life and seeping into others.
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>>28044031
>bottled up
>the only thing he does is youtube videos
wow you fags are shit, there are a ton of people dying in the world and you are crying because they took down your shitty videos, blah blah blah drama,blah blah blah hasbro, you made this thread for what? for some asslicking from us? don't you have any cons to attend faggot?
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>>28048045
Another namefag, bringing their offline drama with them.

Why don't you all start getting tripcodes too while you're at it? And make some more blog posts.
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>>28048070
newfag
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>>28048057
Nigga, that's rude.
Viv may be an attention whore, but don't be an ass without reason.
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>>28048057
>Bawwww there are poor starving children in Africa
Fuck off with your appeal to emotion.
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>>28048057
>if someone else has it worse than you, your problems arent problems
wew lad im glad to know only one person on the planet is suffering then.
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>>28048081
what do you want? a fucking autograph from this pseudocelebrity?
>>28048096
>baaaaawwwww the poor youtuber got his videos fucked
I never said africa, there are people starving everywhere, and I don't see them bitching as hard as this guy
>>28048096
>>28048108
go whiteknight the namefag youtuber somewhere else
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>>28048045
Skype me tomorrow then. I'll explain everything.
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>>28048126
>I know, I'll be rude on the internet! That'll turn the situation right around!

What a swell dude
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>>28048126
>the namefag youtuber
you know it's fine to tripfag if you actually do stuff, right? judging by your filename you probably don't
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>>28048126
No, I don't want an autograph. But he delivered some funny videos, so I don't think he deserves anything but a tiny bit of respect. I am almost certain that you haven't done shit for this fucking fandom or you are just fishing for replies by being an ebin contrarian.
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and nothing of value was lost
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>>28048126
theyre not bitching cuz theyre dead ^:)
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>>28048145
what? do you want me to adress you with the proper pronouns now? I'm not being rude, it's just that I don't like when the "famous" fags start drama, he only has to create a new account like mr enter and I never saw him doing what viva is doing, he was chill at all times
>>28048171
you know, I'm pretty sure there are some content creators here who don't tripfag , and I honestly don't know what he was expecting , for every one of us to say that we support him and how cool he is? just think about what's the objective of this thread, tell me what you think
>>28048224
I did a romhack of final fantasy, and the french translation
>>28048271
:^)
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>>28048276
>I did a romhack of final fantasy, and the french translation
so nothing pony related?
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>>28048302
the romhack was about mlp
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>>28048276
You didn't even read his post. I'll make a tl;dr for you fucking faggot.
They didn't C&D his shit, he took it down because he fears the iron fist of daddy Hasbro, and he has a reason to, since he used the leaked puppets from DHX. So Viv was afraid he could be sued and other serious shit, just for some silly videos.
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>make money with stolen shit
>kp drama
>i know, i'll "remake" my popular videos and get a ton of views/money for the same shit all over

brilliant
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>ITT bitter fucks who never made anything of themselves so feel the need to tear down people who did something with their lives
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>>28048410
Absolutely 100% this
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>>28048418
>horsefame
>did something with their lives
stop it, i cant laugh this hard this late.
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>>28048418
Shit, I am my own boss. Ok,
Me: You are fired
Me: ok
Me: well me, you are rehired again I guess
Me:Ok I guess
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>>28048431
horsefame is making him cash. what are you doing? ^:)
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>>28048442
I also make youtube garbage senpai.
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>>28048418
>something with their lives
>daddeh, I do videos of pones, yeah , the ones little sis liked when she was 4
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Viva, what was this one, I hadn't seen it, and I've always enjoyed your work. And now I'm sad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUY4y0ptUEk

(also your earlier stuff like Rainbow Dash is Excited got me excited to learn to animate)
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>>28048483
Or this one: https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2013/11/30/486311__safe_oc_animated_dancing_oc-colon-viva+reverie_can+can_artist-colon-viva+reverie.gif

Darn, if I'd known, I would've gone through all your older stuff one last time.
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>>28048458
link friendo

>>28048470
>another butthurt faget
cry harder.
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>>28048557
oh gee, you sure got me, I'm literally crying, please stop your punishment
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>>28048557
https://www.youtube.com/deusgear/
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>>28048569
you sure proved to me youre not a bitter cunt ^:)

>>28048575
stop making weird horse lips faget. but also nice work.
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>>28048582
dayumm got me again
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>>28048582
>weird horse lips
You're thinking of mittsies who i often work with, my current rigs have regular lips
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>>28048594
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>>28048594
Actually post things
Remember when you made more than one flash a year?

When it was like, what, seven? And even if they were short/four frames, they were something, and had a charm to them, and weren't just for money, and gave me a reason to look up your name with relative frequency because there was actually a decent chance to see something new?

All I'm saying is if you do the small stuff every now and then, I'd probably be more excited for the big stuff.
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>>28041831

Holy shit, how have I not seen this before?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8u9kb8ZRx4
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>>28048628
Thing is back in 2011-2013 i was able to just make enough on youtube to be able to do it full time.

However youtube changed the CPM model to watch time instead of views, and so many many animators have become unable to survive on that revenue (and why so many called it quits on yt).

Also why letsplays exploded. I do other work these days and youtube and such isn't my primary income anymore, if you want to know how much that 1.5 million views a month earns about $600 a month, which is nice but not something you can live on. Also i spent like a year relearning to animate and draw, toonboom is fucking lovely. I am back to working on animation a lot now, i still love it after years.
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>>28048653
thats the the idea of patreon. its for people who cant put out content consistently. despite the negative stigma people have built up around it, theres literally nothing wrong with it if youre not putting all your content behind pay walls.
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>>28048653
Dang, that... actually makes sense. That's pretty terrible.

I've been considering moving to Toon Boom myself, so good to hear that it's actually good; I'd heard from another anon on /ic/ that it was worth it. What makes it better than Flash, in your opinion?
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>>28048666
Yeah but people seem to only give nsfw patreons money, there's a lot of sfw youtube animations who don't gain much (like gonzo or rice pirate, only $400. sexuallobster is at a more modest 2k).

I have no paywalls on my patreon, it's all out in the open. I just use it more than tumblr since tumblr these days delets blogs left and right.

>>28048670
Yeah definitely go for it, flash is a god damn dinosaur. You can do so much with it, in terms of z-shifting/dynamic masks/template poses/etc. Also i'm that anon posting in /ic/ trying to shill toonboom to others ahaha.

Try doing anything in this gif in flash.
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>>28048575
Oh hey, why don't you show off your furry porn at a big convention in a conservative state? And make sure the mainstream press is there too.
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>>28048689
Whaaat then we've already spoken. I was the one having issues with that .gif in anything but a web browser.

Looking to torrent Toon Boom now, I've been needing to find a new place after kat got hit.
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>>28048689
>Yeah but people seem to only give nsfw patreons money
fair point.
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>>28048716
For what reason?
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>>28048724
obviously the solution is to make some NSFW stuff.
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>>28048717
There aren't any cracks for it, there's onl a time freeze trial thing (it's on youtube if you search toonboom 14 trial freeze). I'm actually paying for toonboom.
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>>28048689

>Tumblr deletes blogs left and right these days

I can't believe how hard it is for artists to follow the "No bestiality or child pornography" rule. I mean, really, is that so hard?
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>>28048737
Or you know, get a real job.
If you really need money, then necessity comes first.
Or what, your ancestors didn't work in shit they didn't like because LOL FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS?
That'0s just fantasy nigga, you have to put bread on the table first.
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>>28048731
Exposure.
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>>28048756
>real job in 2015+1

Jobs are disappearing faster than cum inside cumdumpsters. Everything is getting automated left and right.
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>>28048756
dreamers dont always make it, but at least theyre not dead inside.
your post is depressing.
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>>28048777
Life is shit, what do you want. I don't make the rules.
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>>28048798
Give dosh
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>>28041831
>All this "nice blog post" and "He got what he desered"
Sure I guess you can see this thread as a "blog post" and yes he used stolen content, and yes he may have redone work to earn money for little work,

But at least have a bit of sympathy for the guy for getting C&D'd because, and I'm going out on a limb here, I assume that animating isn't easy and having the work removed kinda stings. Especially when it's the thing that pays your bills.
> "he used stolen content!" Or "oy vey"
What was his stated intention for using the content? Plus, when you need a couple dollars here and there, you unfortunately have to sell out or do cheap work. That's how life is, you do the dirty work, get paid, live on, and repeat, it doesn't necessarily mean he likes it.
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>>28041831

I don't think you'd be likely to become a target, everybody loves you and your videos. (Well, almost everyone.)
Especially the ones that make no sense.

Love the new style by the way!
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>>28048829
He took it down of his own volition; he wasn't C&D'd, and he hadn't been contacted since very early on.
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>>28048840
My bad, I was going on based on the drama in the thread.
Though if he didn't soon I imagine that he would be soon.
assuming that the puppets were part of a hasbro leak, or just having bad luck
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>>28048864
They were part of a leak like two years ago; I have those puppets myself. Whenever Wonderbolts Academy came out.
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>>28048829
people are also ripping on him for remaking his previous content, but honestly im sure every fan appreciates that. no one likes to see their favorite animators videos taken down.
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>>28048881
For animating, dicking around with, or just for the sake of having it?
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>>28048912
Currently just to have and study, and as I've been slowly trying to unlock the secrets of animation, I'll open them up and see how they layered stuff/connected pieces/where they divided the puppets, how each piece is connected to the whole.

Things I could theoretically learn if I could afford/get into animation classes, but I'm not good enough yet/trying to go through school without getting into student debt. So I'm stuck with the whole "need to get good but don't have the means of doing so" sort of quandary.
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>>28048940

>paying someone to teach you something
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>>28049010
Many businesses don't like it when you don't have a piece a paper called a degree. It's a waste of money, but what choice do you have if you want to be a "professional"
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>>28048777
Trips of truth
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>>28049065
>>28048940
For animation reels will get you a lot farther tha any animation "degree". I know several other pone animators who got employed in real studios from their youtube stuff/view count alone, hell even SiR went to work on offical R&M cause of that too.
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>>28049139
That's what I've been figuring, which is why I'm still trying to learn, but it's hard to sell to parents, who are already worried about you paying rent/not going into STEM, etc.

Still though, if I give up, it will never happen.
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>>28049170
I learned to animate while studying STEM (biomedical engineering). Hell i did twilights night off at 3 am right before a final aha.

You just gotta get started, download it and start screwing around/doodling, not break in your head over what guides and such.
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When's the next bronies react.
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>>28050448
>bronies react
disgusting
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>>28041869
Its reuploaded, anon

Thank the people who download and reupload good vids in case they get removed

Theyre the forgotten heroes
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>>28043955
gosh, shut your mouth, you "wtfihatevivnow" dramalover
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>Baww my videos got removed because I steal from people!
>>
It is possible to watch the old videos, just take them from a reaction, mute it and sync the audio with new ones
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>>28041831
Why did you post this? You want me to feel sorry for you?
>>
>>28041831
What you did was smart. Just look at what happened to the guys who was making the Button Mash vids.
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>>28051066
Not really. Jan is on a different situation. Not about stolen assets.
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>>28041831
I always hated these videos.
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>>28052456
>Feels the need to bump this fucking thread and give Viv More attention
Nice shilling, faggot.
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>>28051066
Jan was literally punished for being too good at recreating show style.
Even now there are people out there that still think that Button Mash is his OC and unironically ask him did he animated the latest episode whenever Button Mash in it.
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>>28050617
>WAAAAHHHH WHY DO YOU CHANGE YOUR OPINION BASED ON WHATEVER OTHER PEOPLE DOOO
YOU SHOULD BLINDLY SUCK THEIR DICKS NO MATTER WHAT
I would tell you to end your life, but I am sure you will suffer more if you keep living.
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>>28052470

O-oops
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>tfw people follow their dreams
>You will never know what that is like because you never had any dreams of your own.
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>>28052632
The day will come, anon.
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I'm bumping this thread because of newfags blindly hating Viva. Get fucked.
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>>28041831
>>28044031
Protip: If wanna "spread the word" about something around here without being called an attention whore, do it anonymously, and pretend to be some fan or whatever.

Ya blew it with the tripfaggotry
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>>28054039
>You have to be a newfag to hate Viv
Good shill.
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>>28054039
thanks
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page 10
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page 9
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>>28055997
>>28055257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmsRN78qMxM
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>>28056038
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>>28056965
Ebin, simply ebin.
I THINK IT IS TIME FOR SCRUFFY TO LET IT RIP
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>>28041869
Rip
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>>28050448
They normally only do those for season openers and finales. Season 5 had a couple extra because it was full of happenings.
>>
I'm gonna fap and then play/struggle through Drakengard. Man this fucking sucks to play but damn if it's not somehow grimdark as fuck, yet not hilariously edgy. Well, COMPLETELY hilariously edgy.

I'm bumping in other words.
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I'm bumping this thread because I support content creators!
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>>28058256
knock knock
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semi relevant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKgHIfyWHKs&lc=FmeFs8qAmVJrBGar_jDJ-_xS6SZfIgxyZ6vcDAFDpwg
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>>28058355
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKgHIfyWHKs&lc=FmeFs8qAmVJrBGar_jDJ-_xS6SZfIgxyZ6vcDAFDpwg
the linked comment, rather
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>>28058256
>>28058338
pony aids
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