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I don't know why people say that the show is dying. S6 only

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I don't know why people say that the show is dying. S6 only had one episode that I would say was "bad," and even that episode was more boring than actually bad in the traditional sense. Is it just the memers who were only in it for the fandom saying it? Because like I said, nothing in S6 so far is really that bad.
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>>27987538
It's just fans of the fandom who want everyone to be as miserable as they are.
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>>27987538
Saying the show is dying is an epik dank maymay that all the cool kiddies have loved to say for a long while now
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>>27987538
>>27987555
>Le ebin cover your ears and scream THE SHOW IS STILL GOOD, DADDY HASBRO GIVE ME DICK AGAIN meme
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>>27987538
But S6 has had like one good episode so far.

I mean okay if you love shoveling shit in your mouth that's your choice but most people don't want to enjoy crap week in week out.
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>>27987567
>>27987578
What do you not like about the show now? I'm curious.
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>>27987567
Quiet Donkey.
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>>27987538
>Is it just the memers who were only in it for the fandom
that was obvious. no matter how much they bitch and cry, ill always enjoy the ride.
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>>27987588
T. hasbro dick sucker
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>>27987567
>REEE IT SUX!!!
>oh b-b-but I c-c-c-can't leave
>did i mention t-t-t-the porn? c-c-can i stay for that?
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>>27987594
What about it is shit to you? What made you think they don't care?
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>>27987593
Oh boo hoo, I'm sorry me enjoying something bothers you so.
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>>27987586
Much less effort put into it.
Now that it is stable unlike at the start when they really had to try, they goof off and make mediocre episode after mediocre episode. Not even trying to tie ends about rthe new toys, just like LOL SHOVE IT AL IN THERE, WHO CARES ABOUT MAKING IT FIT?
Shitty fucking lessons, that don't even make sense sometimes, yes there are some of those in past episodes but now it is nearly every episode.
Tons of references to make up for shitty writing and lack of dedication, as a means of damage control.
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>>27987595
Fuck you, if I could leave I wouldn't even complain.
At least I have my pride and don't suck up everything hasbro does like you.
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>>27987586
Two words. Starlight. Glimmer.
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>>27987608
What's a shit lesson these days, in your opinion? Specific episode?
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>>27987622
Would you have preferred Sunset Shimmer come back, Anon? Is that what this is about?
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>>27987621
>cant even leave
>i have muh pride
k vageta.
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>>27987625
The baby episode, was terrible. What was the lesson there? "Babies save the day at random?" Or "your old friends are losers like you, but actually not losers so they will help save the day in the end if you meet them again?" yeah totally exceptional lessons.
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>>27987621
>mfw I still enjoy the show and find very little to complain about
Stay mad, dude.
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>>27987621
Shitting indiscriminately on everything Hasbro does isn't something to brag about you hipster trash.
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>>27987642
It was about not being afraid to reconnect with old friends, Anon.
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>>27987636
You think I'm a Shimmerfag? Even still at least she's a slightly better character who still remembers she did some shit and interacts with the Mane 5, unlike this new Sue.

Besides, isn't adding characters the move of a series that knows it's dying? She feels so forced, it's sickening.

It doesn't destroy the series, but it certainly ruins all of the season bookends, in addition to Twilight.
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>>27987567
>>27987621
There are people that would eat shit and still smile about it, take a look at the last few seasons.
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>>27987662
Well, that lesson didn't work for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k3n5me4Rns
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>>27987671
Well, I think you're blowing it out of proportion a bit. She's a secondary character at best. Like Discord, you know?
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>>27987685
Any specific examples for those? Is there an episode/character you can point to?
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>>27987682
There are several differences with Discord. At least Discord still acts like how he did instead of having some weird click that seems like they're a different person. There wasn't even character development to feel that was warranted.
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>>27987714
Well, Starlight's whole act was a cover, wasn't it? She was living in denial her whole life.
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>tfw you've been on the ride for years
>tfw you just like enjoying things more than hating them so everything is much more fun
>tfw show is still good to you
Not hating everything feels great.

>inb4 hasdrone go suck Hasbrocock
Try enjoying stuff instead of hating it once and see how you like it.
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>>27987538
I think the main problem is that when a series is starting out there is a lot of information you have to fill in yourself that's not elaborated upon. The longer the show runs, the more the series expands into different ideas and details get filled in about everything. So the longer it runs the more people get they're headcanons ruined and to them it feels like their initial interpretation of the show is getting ruined. In reality it's just expanding and the people who are open to the art that's being created will realize this.
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>>27987676
Savage
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>>27987538
>post-faust era
>still watching the show
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>>27987538
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>>27987676
>stuck on the ride
>assravaged because the other people are enjoying the ride
>no one will ever be as miserable as you despite your best efforts
kek
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>>27987738
Pic related for you.
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>>27987738
point is if you look for a reason to hate something, youre always going to find it. season 1 and 2 were so full of flaws that if they aired today people would be shitting all over them.
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>>27987777
>implying
You aren't worthy of those numbers, shit eater.
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>>27987789
>implying
^:)
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>>27987777
quads confirm

>>27987779 see >>27987786
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>>27987786
I personally jumped into this show cause it was fresh. But now, it is just the ame shit over and over. Sure, the guys that still like it probably are actually autistic and enjoy repetition, but for me it got tiring already. All this show does now is to copy everything else blatantly.
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>>27987693
Not him, but most certainly.

>Flanderization
Twilight Sparkle, notably in season premiers and finales how she just becomes a black hole that causes everything to focus on her. And in the movies, too. Fortunately, The Cutie Map avoided it a bit, but that's almost forgettable by making her the absolute star again in the S5 finale. This is not something new, it became tiresome with the Wedding.

Also, Applejack having little more character than "Muh farm" or "Muh family". Again, fortunately there have been some small good episode changes, but not enough to really help at this point.

>clichéd plots
Admittedly I can't care much about this one as I've lost interest in several aspects of the show, and only have been watching what seems appealing. But seeing how it looks like we're getting a remake of Mare Do Well, and one of those "The partners take over the competition!" episodes, I'm not filled with an incredible amount of hope for some of these.

I'll admit when the show does things well (Saddle Row) but some things just don't seem good.

>poor narrative decisions
Mostly what I mentioned above about Twilight I feel is a good example. Also, things like Applejack's Day Off, which just felt like "Applejack's a retard: the episode." The imagined plot of it being about AJ trying to relax at the spa while Twilight tried to do chores, while seemingly cliche, is at least better than that.

>horrendous character designs
Starlight Glimmer's new mane really doesn't look great. Sunset Shimmer and Discord get redeemed and keep their appearance, why not her?

Continued in next post.
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>>27987798
>they also had a certain charm to them that drew an adult audience despite them
yes, it was called being new. the show isnt new anymore and so you attribute that to it being worse when really its gotten much better.
>the writers don't care anymore
well memed.
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>>27987793
How convenient, people are still screen capping pointless things here.
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>>27987811
Applejack has always had that problem, I think. AJ's Day Off was pretty weak, sure.

Starlight's mane change was done explicitly so her hair would be unequal. It is a physical representation of how she changed.
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>>27987811
Look. These kinds of threads are the reasons people feel like there are morons who are just obsessed with the show no matter what happens, and the opposite is the same. Be fucking honest. Admit the faults the show has, but at the same time, admit when it does things well. For example, as much as I hate Twilight and Starlight, I can appreciate them not being crammed in every episode. Saddle Row I felt was a very good. But at the same time, the show does have it's flaws, and people are allowed to bring them up.

And arguments like >>27987786 I feel are absolutely ridiculous. Yes, S1 and S2 had flaws, and you know what? Some people liked them. I myself personally liked the crappy "And here is the moral of the episode..." People are allowed to have tastes based on what they've seen. If you're a complete newfag who only saw S6, you're allowed to say you don't like previous seasons because they're not like S6. If you're an oldfag who has been around since S1, you're allowed to say you don't like how things have changed and you wish things went a different way rather than changing radically.
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>>27987586
Any sort of direction the show once had is completely gone.
>It took the writers until SEASON 6 to start doing ANYTHING with Twilight's princess status.
>They completely ran Discord's relevancy into the fucking ground.
>They can't fucking decide whether or not they want to be an adventurous action show or a simple slice of life show

The writers just don't fucking care anymore, either. It's gotten to the point where they're parodying characters in their own fucking show.
>b-but self-awareness
Yeah, done in the worst possible way. Instead of fixing mistakes, they just keep bringing them up and making fun of them, and then keep going on to make the same mistakes. Jesus Christ.

Episodes, as of late, lack any real, engaging conflict. I found half of the fucking premier of Season 6 to be fucking stupid (The McFlurry parts. That baby is literally just a plot device.), and the only episode in recent history I can think of where I was actually engaged with the themes and story it was telling was Hearthbreakers, where Applejack was trying to cope with the culture-shock of the Pie family. That's really the only one I can remember, and I have seen all of them.

There's a lot of problems with this show.
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>>27987538
What do you use to define whether an episode's objectively bad or not? If I say I'm not enjoying season 6, it's not over nostalgia. I loved season 5. It's just that none of these episodes are really making me feel anything and it's focusing heavily on characters and plots that I don't find interesting.
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>>27987833
That doesn't really stop it from being a shitty design. I get the whole "unequal" thing, but it wasn't really a good choice in looks.
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>>27987868
You do realize you can't define what looks shitty... right?
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>>27987811
twilight is, and has been, and always will be, the main character. stories always follow the main character.

>only have been watching what seems appealing
so you dont even have a valid opinion, you just assume youre correct.

>Starlight Glimmer's new mane really doesn't look great
i like it. guess that means this one is an opinion.

>>27987831
that was from 2013 newfag, and ironically was someone calling someone else who enjoyed a season 2 episode a shit eater.

>>27987844
thats not the same context of new.

>>27987854
you missed my point. i was saying people who like season 1 and 2 like them because they were enjoying the show for what it was rather than searching for reasons to hate it. every season has had flaws, but lately you have this group searing season 1 and 2 were perfect and scrutinizing every tiny flaw in later seasons.
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>>27987884
Point exactly, screen capping shit and saving it to this day.
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>>27987621
>lol I can't leave but I deliberately critisizes everything regardless of quality so that I can at least pretend to be better than everyone else here
>I still have my pride though

Yeah, but your dignity has evidently gone right out the window.
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>>27987898
Not an argument.
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>>27987910
>regardless of quality
Wrong. I recognize there are some ok episodes. But the point is that most of them now suck.
Yes, the show fills his niche of cute ponies doing cute things. But aren't you supposed to advance in life, not to stay forever the same? Or even worse, go back in quality.
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>>27987931
>But aren't you supposed to advance in life
yes, and the characters have which is what most people who dislike the show now find irritating.
>go back in quality
season 5 was the best season thus far and season 6 has handled spike better than any previous season ever did.
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>>27987943
If you do two rights and 5 wrongs, you haven't fixed much, have you.
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>>27987948
>rarifag
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>>27987881
And you realize you can't define whether it looks god-tier either, right? Don't pull that card if you can't justify it yourself.

>>27987884
>twilight is, and has been, and always will be, the main character. stories always follow the main character.
T. Twifag

Twilight wasn't THE MAIN character. Go watch any other episode in any season that isn't a season bookend. She is a driving force, and the Element of Magic, but this isn't The Twilight Sparkle Show. It never was. That's like saying Superman is the main character in Justice League, and Leonardo is the main character of TMNT. They're central focus and lead the teams, but they're not THE lead, in the sense of Star Wars being the story of the Skywalker bloodline.

>so you dont even have a valid opinion, you just assume youre correct.
>howdoyouknowit'sshititisn'tevenoutyet.jpg
People are allowed to make judgements based off of what they see. If I find many shitty premises, and watch the episode and find out it's shit, why would I waste my time going out of my way to watch another one I deem shitty?

>but lately you have this group searing season 1 and 2 were perfect and scrutinizing every tiny flaw in later seasons.
Except you missed my point too, dipshit. All you see is "They don't like the current season, THEY MUST BE A NOSTALGIA FAG!" You're just as obnoxious in your grouping as the people you claim you hate. And you can't seem to grasp the fact that people don't like things that you like, and are allowed to express that opinion so long as it isn't just shitposting, on this board.
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>>27987956
name the things you find wrong with the show now.
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>>27987943
>handled spike better
That's great if Spike's the only character you care about, but that can't be said about other important characters. Maybe it's people who favor those non-spike characters who aren't having fun?
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>>27987970
>Introduction of the baby
Like some anon said above, Cadence and Celestia are little more than coat hangers.
Unnecessary references to cover up for the lack of attention to the stories.
Things are still rushed, you would think they would have worked this out now after 6 motherfucking years.
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>>27987970
You do realize people have been saying that, all the time, not just this thread, but it's most often disregarded as "You're not real fans!"

Not just here, but I recall that thread about Tirek's fight, and a lot of people explained what they didn't like about it, and all the counter response given was just shitposting about how they're not real fans, or about how they enjoy people's hate tears or some shit. Basically, same thing what's going on here.
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>>27987979
Spikefags like to pretend they're the only ones in existence, and no one else has any problems except for them. So that when they're happy, they think everyone is happy.
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>>27987966
>Twilight wasn't THE MAIN character
yes, she is. get out of that nile river.
aint even a twifag, im a spikefag ^:)

>People are allowed to make judgements based off of what they see
>dont see the episode
hurr durr.

>and are allowed to express that opinion so long as it isn't just shitposting
feel free to do so at any time, but ive only seen arguments that could be applied to the show as a whole while trying to use them on the specific season they hate.

>THEY MUST BE A NOSTALGIA FAG
whats your favorite season anon?
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>>27987979
the rest of the characters arent much different than theyve ever been. theyre being handled well. ponk isnt screaming obnoxiously constantly, twi is adorkable, etc.
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>>27988011
yes, so far we have "the writers dont care," "its not the same as it used to be," and "i dont like new things."
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>>27988035
>yes, she is. get out of that nile river.
>Can't present a counter argument against it when Twilight has barely any roles in the middle of the season, making it feel out of place when she does everything in the season bookends and movies.

>hurr durr.
>What is the purpose of a commercial and an episode synopsis

>feel free to do so at any time, but ive only seen arguments that could be applied to the show as a whole while trying to use them on the specific season they hate.
This isn't about specifically season 6, you asked about reasons people don't like the series, and you were given them, and you can't comprehend that simple fact.

>whats your favorite season anon?
I don't have a favorite season, because unlike most people such as yourself who want to turn this into some type of Season Wars, I only like to group what enjoy. But I will tell you my absolute favorite episode is from Season 5, and my second favorite is from Season 4. I imagine if I told you what they were, you'd just go full ad hom about my favorite pony.

>im a spikefag
Ah, that explains everything.
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>>27987966
Twilight has had heavy focus on her arc and character, yes, but to say ALL of the focus is on her is just wrongly proportioned. There are far more episodes centered around every other character and most of these episodes haven't been bad in representation of them. As far as starlight's design, I'm not pulling a card, I'm stating a fact and I never said she looked god tier. All I'm saying is it's left up to interpretation and I think she looks fine.
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>>27987676
>>27987757

Pony now is better than no pony.
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>>27988060
I made valid points and you simply didn't reply.
>>27988002
Please tell me how the bay is useful to the show, plot or lore in any other way than LOL SHITTY BABY TOYSET.
I know, they have to make money. But is it really that fucking hard for them to tie the lose ends before thinking of some half assed product? I have seen plenty of half assed commercials of 30 mins, pokemon comes to mind, that at least fucking try to tie the ends and make it all fit in. Hasbro just dumps the shit over and says "fuck it, who cares about making it all fit, bring in the money".
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>>27988060
>Ignoring most of the thread for strawman built up in your head
I know spikefags are delusional, but come the fuck on.
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>>27988106
>plot or lore in any other way than LOL SHITTY BABY TOYSET
alicorns can give birth to other alicorns. theyre not all ascended.
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>>27988100
It's not.
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>>27988106
>I made valid points and you simply didn't reply
give me a post to cut down, im about 10 minutes from passing out.
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>>27988098
>Twilight has had heavy focus on her arc and character,
Honestly I don't even feel like Twilight has an arc. Like it just feels like wings were slapped on with no development. Especially since S2 really changed the focus from Twilight writing letters to everyone doing so. My point is stuff like that is the reason it feels so bad and out of place when it suddenly becomes a Twilight show for every major plot.

>All I'm saying is it's left up to interpretation and I think she looks fine.
Fine, but considering the point to bring up was "shitty character designs" as the anon brought up himself, and the other anon asked for specific examples, it was only fair that I brought up a design I felt to be crap.
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>>27988115
And then they forgot about the baby, the concept and everything. It was just half assed.
This is the exact reason, why we think the show is now shit anon.
Now, don't think I am just LOL IT IS SHIT BUT I HAVE NO SERIOUS REASONS TO SAY ITIS SHIT, IT IS JUST SHIT CAUSE I SAY SO OR I AM B8, that being said, keep enjoying your show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4U1u6G1Ue4
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>>27988121
And yet you haven't passed out yet and you're already doing a terrible job addressing any point given to you in favor of strawmen.
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>>27988121
Go to bed, you can reply tomorrow. I lurk this place all day, cause like I said, I have nowhere else to go. I'll be here.
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>>27988096
she has the important roles, and all of the actual main plot involves her progress as a student and a princess. she is the main character.

>What is the purpose of a commercial and an episode synopsis
to give you an idea of what the episode involves. you learn literally nothing about how its executed and actually turns out. you have no right to form an opinion on an episode unless you have seen the entire episode. you may form an opinion on the synopsis which is largely a useless one. case and point; princess spike.

>I don't have a favorite season
convenient.

>Ah, that explains everything
who is your favorite character anon?
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Why would you continue to post here and partake of the fandom if you no longer enjoy the source material?

Honest question.
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>>27988106
>Hasbro just dumps the shit over and says "fuck it, who cares about making it all fit, bring in the money".
I'm going to argue against that, because I don't even think it's Hasbro's fault, it's really the fault of the writers who can't keep up with the toy mandates and just keep writing stuff and throwing it out the window.

Other Hasbro properties have done a fine job with toy mandates, the best example I've seen is Transformers Beast Wars. It can be done. The problem is the writers who have no idea how to handle it.

Take for example Rainbow Power, teased for an entire season, thrown into a finale like some Super Sayian crap, then never seen again. Honestly I blame that more on the writers doing a poor job introducing it, rather than Hasbro shitting over everything. The show is a toy commercial, it's the god damn job of the writers to introduce things well. They're the ones doing a crappy job.
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>>27988141
>And then they forgot about the baby, the concept and everything
>It was just half assed
>This is the exact reason, why we think the show is now shit anon.
what do you even mean? thats all vague bullshit, not a real reason for anything.
how did they forget about the baby? it was 2 episodes not including the one announcing it was coming, and its been hinted at being the finale, too.
how was it half assed?
your reasons to think its shit is shit.

>>27988142
nice link fag.

>>27988149
fuck you i do what i want.
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>>27988157
Nowhere else to go. I don't fit in facebook, in normal forums, in the normal internet, nor with physical people no more. I am schizophrenic.
I also happened to find a small corner here that while calling each others faggots, at least we are honest with each other. You don't really find that out elsewhere.
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>>27988157
>le because i have no where else to go response.

fucking 30 second timer.
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>>27988176
>same stupid shop owner from the other thread
really, find something better to do than bitch about a pony show. go learn a craft.
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>>27988173
>Hinted to be in the finale
Where? I don't remember anything about it being hinted, but I haven't watched all the episodes, so I may have missed it out in another one.
So now if you think that's vague and bullshit, care to say how it is justified to not work out Cadence? isn't she important? doesn't she rule a whole motherufcking empire? Doesn't this show igolize princesses? then why she isn't given attention? cause sthey don't give a fuck, because she isn't popular. Other shows simply kill such character or get rid of it completely. She has no reason to exist anymore.
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>>27988195
Like what, suck hasbro dick? No thanks.
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>>27988152
>she has the important roles
The Element of Magic? You mean the fact that she's utterly dependent on the other 5 existing?

>and all of the actual main plot involves her progress as a student and a princess
So what exactly was the arc and main plot of Twilight in Season 5, and where was it seen? What is her arc this season, and how have most of the episodes shown this?

>she is the main character.
Simply restating what you think doesn't validate your point.

>to give you an idea of what the episode involves.
And why would anyone want to give someone an idea of what it involves? Why not just make everything an absolute surprise?

>you have no right to form an opinion on an episode unless you have seen the entire episode.
True, but I am allowed to say "This looks like shit and I have no interest in it for reasons X, Y, and Z." I may be proven wrong, as has been the case some times, and vice versa, but if that's how I feel, why should I watch the episode religiously?

>convenient.
I bet you didn't even read further, completely missing my point. Nice going, faggot.

>who is your favorite character anon?
>Literally grasping at straws now so you can pathetically resort to calling my favorite pony a doormat in an attempt to save face.
Or maybe I'm a Pinkiefag, you can say how obnoxious she is and insult me. Or maybe I'll use a smug Rarity reaction image to make you think she's my favorite.

Actually, that's a good one. Since you are a Spikefag, why don't you just assume me to be a Rarifag and am merely salty because my waifu is a whore?
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>>27988176
I'm being honest when I say fuck off, find a different board to be a faggot on.
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>>27988157
Because just because people hate big aspects of the series, doesn't mean they hate all the characters they loved before, or various episodes and songs that come up? Or maybe they still enjoy other things directly from the show aside from porn still, but just don't mention it because that's not what people are asking to know?

Did you ever think of that?
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>>27988223
>What are you gonna do, report me?
Sorry anon, but we are in this board until the end.
Hate me or love me, but I am here to stay.
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>>27988203
>cadance
shes been in multiple episodes, including the seson 6 premiere. what the fuck are you even complaining about?
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>>27988242
And yet she still has no personality.
Prove me wrong, and say what is her personality, otherwise.
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>>27987680
>well, the lesson didn't work for me

Because you're a cynical edgy faggot, Anon.
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>>27988260
Only on the internet.
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>>27988213
im happy to be here, youre not. ^:)
you sure showed me.

>>27988221
>The Element of Magic? You mean the fact that she's utterly dependent on the other 5 existing?
yes, twilight and her friends. the show is about friendship. you know many main characters have friends.
>So what exactly was the arc and main plot of Twilight in Season 5
twilight learning her role as the princess of friendship.
>What is her arc this season
learning to spread friendship.
>how have most of the episodes shown this?
by spreading friendship.

>Simply restating what you think doesn't validate your point
i know right? ^:)

>why should I watch the episode religiously?
if you mean "why should i watch the show" then the answer is because youre on the fucking board dedicated solely to the show youre not watching.

>I bet you didn't even read further
i did. my favorite season doesnt have my favorite episode, either. there was no point other than you putting yourself on a pedestal by pretending to be outside the nostalgia zone while at the same time exhibiting all the hallmarks.

>ill insult you for liking a character but im too cowardly to name mine
figured. just wanted you to see it.
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>>27988249
shes easy going with a mild sense of humor. she behaves somewhat childishly sometimes. her strength is in her friends and loved ones, and she defends both adamantly.
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>>27988295
Well sometimes faggots make funny jokes or a nice get is gotten, or they make shitty ebin memes like diapersin fog.
And sometimes I also contribute seriously to some threads, or I simply derail and act like a massive faggot.
Sure I may not like the show, but I have my fun in other ways.
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>>27988241
>staying in a place you dont like because you feel trapped
>constantly insulting the company who made the show you fawn over
enjoy the ride faget.
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>>27988335
>literally a fan of the fandom
cancer.
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>>27988355
Just quit giving it (you)'s already.
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>>27988378
im pretty sure one of these fags is the same fag who was shitting up /bug/ earlier.
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>>27988249
Yeah she does, a specific example I can think of is the episode where discord gets everyone sick and she goes adventuring with twilight. At the end she's happy to have broken out of her stuffy princess life, she's a bit of a thrill seeker
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>>27988342
How can I not hate you all? you are the ones that dragged me here in the first place.
I was completely happy in ???? board, minding my business, but no, you had to go and raid it constantly with pony dumps until I gave in and asked why this show was so special.
Oh fuck, I should never have.
Now my old home board is destroyed, ruined. I literally have nowhere to return. You made this, only you are guilty.
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>>27988395
not only do i get to enjoy the show, i get to enjoy the suffering of those who cant leave.
thanks friend. your misery sustains me while i wait for new episodes.
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>>27988295
>yes, twilight and her friends. the show is about friendship. you know many main characters have friends.
Oh, but it isn't about the friends being friends too? Huh, I must have imagined all those episodes with Twilight barely or not in it at all.

>twilight learning her role as the princess of friendship.
>Fails to cite examples

>learning to spread friendship.
>Fails to cite examples

>by spreading friendship.
>Fails to cite examples

>if you mean "why should i watch the show" then the answer is because youre on the fucking board dedicated solely to the show youre not watching.
You apparently can't tell the difference between "Not watching the show religiously" and "Not watching the show at all". Not everyone feels the need to stay absolutely up to date on everything. And some people are content watching reruns.

>i did. my favorite season doesnt have my favorite episode
Then what exactly qualifies for a favorite season, and why do I need to have one?

> there was no point other than you putting yourself on a pedestal
What fucking pedestal? The one that I don't have a favorite season? Oh I get it, you're assblasted that you thought I was a "Muh S1" nostalgiafag, only to find out you were horribly wrong since my favorite episodes are in later seasons.

>all the hallmarks.
You mean the hallmarks that you made up. Yourself. Because you have strawmen you need to fight.

>figured. just wanted you to see it.
That's honestly what you get for being stupid enough to name your favorite character, then try to desperately find out someone else's so you can use ad hom as a last resort. This is just icing on the cake for me quite honestly. Maybe if you were capable of establishing an argument you'd figure out easily my waifu is the Mary Sue. Or is she the cunt?
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>>27988412
And I get to stir up trouble and ruin your discussions. We are even I suppose.
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>>27988415
>Huh, I must have imagined all those episodes with Twilight barely or not in it at all
i must have imagined the part where the overarching plot was forwarded by these episodes.

>fails to cite examples
season 5. try watching it sometime.

>Not everyone feels the need to stay absolutely up to date on everything
we call them newfags and/or fans of the fandom. theyre cancerous scum.

>Then what exactly qualifies for a favorite season
which season do you think did the best job overall anon?

>my favorite episodes are in later seasons
thats nice. completely irrelevant to your favorite season.

>You mean the hallmarks that you made up. Yourself.
when you see things, you get to judge things, right anon?

>That's honestly what you get for being stupid enough to name your favorite character
if youd like the truth of the matter, i dont judge peoples opinions based on their favorite characters. i judge them solely on the merit of their arguments.
what was yours again? oh youre a spikefag. it really swayed me.
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>>27988385
Nope.
I actually like changelings.
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>>27988430
but we both know you will still be miserable, and people will still have discussions, and we will still enjoy this show.
theres nothing you can do to stop it.
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>>27988464
You say that now, but I have made people frustrated plenty of times.
Hell, people even make threads about "how they can't have a discussion because when they reply seriously, suddenly somebody just says "cooked" and then they just wasted their time completely."
Why do you think people is slowly leaving this hell? because of us. It is not just me, you ruined the fun of other anons.
Now we want revenge, and we sure are getting it.
Don't you remember?
>What are you gonna do, shit on this place more? It is already shit, you can't do anything to us!
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>>27988524
grats, you tricked some underage newfags into derailing their discussions.
whats the next step of your master plan?
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>>27988452
>i must have imagined the part where the overarching plot was forwarded by these episodes.
>Still unable to accept the fact that Twilight isn't a part in most of them so therefore she can't be the absolute lead.

>season 5. try watching it sometime.
You sound like a social justice warrior. "I don't have to give you specific examples, you need to educate yourself!"

>we call them newfags and/or fans of the fandom. theyre cancerous scum.
>Hi I'm better than you because I know so much more about a horse show.

>which season do you think did the best job overall anon?
Except I'd rather judge on an episode to episode basis. While I can give overall opinions on how seasons were, I can't really pic a season as my favorite if my favorite episodes aren't in it, and I can't pick my favorite episodes' seasons as favorites because I have other issues with them. If anything, with that system, S1 may rank on the same level as S4 on completely different aspects. Who says there needs to be a favorite when clearly episodes are what matter, not the season.

>thats nice. completely irrelevant to your favorite season.
I fail to see how it's irrelevant considering how I look at things as I just said.

>when you see things, you get to judge things, right anon?
Excellent job attempting to use my words against me. You would have had me if you were actually arguing against a point I made rather than "Ew nostalgiafag" arguments you keep making up in your head.

>if youd like the truth of the matter, i dont judge peoples opinions based on their favorite characters.
No. You clearly judge them based off of the fictional worlds you created in your head. You see someone who as issues with the show as nothing more than a nostalgiafag who clearly favors S1 over absolutely everything and treats it as an absolute for the series.
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>>27988542
>Some newfags
Yeah sure. Let's not fool ourselves here, anon. I am going to kill your board, and you are helpless and can't stop me.
You killed mine, so I am simply gonna return the favor to you.
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>>27987538
I'm sorry you have shit taste and zero critical judgement skills, OP, but if you don't agree with me, I won't try to force you to do so.
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>>27988562
>You killed mine, so I am simply gonna return the favor to you
>to you
Isn't there some part in there too about being intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.
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Reminder that the only reason people hate any aspect of FiM is because they're already considered the lowest of the low, and they need someone to look down upon.
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>>27988672
Blah blah blah roaches, bloo bloo bloo puppet master.
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>>27988692
Nice denial, hugboxer.
If the whole internet looks down on you, then I am sure they aren't all wrong.
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>>27988692
You're also the kind of fan that thinks everyone who doesn't want to watch the series is a hater, aren't you?
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>>27988693
Revenge is a plate best served cold.
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>>27988706
Then leave the show little boy, and never look back.
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>>27987931
>I recognize there are some ok episodes
Name the last 5 episodes, from most recent to least, that you would say were 7/10 or better. This will allow us to gauge the veracity of your claim.
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>>27988706
Nice populist fallacy. What's next William Jennings Bryant, are you going to rant about how we should allow the coinage of silver?
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>>27988860
>>27988870
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>>27988896
>I don't know major historical figures
>therefore the guy who made the reference is retarded

Not even him, but that isn't how it works. Yeah he added a 't' to Bryan, but come on.
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>>27988860
Based off of what? Your opinion of what are god tier episodes, when you're clearly someone who thinks every episode is god tier?
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>>27988910
cooked.
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>>27987621
>At least I have my pride

Drown in your pride and die.
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>>27988912
Just give me a list you pussy. I have my own in my head, along with a worst case if I was being as harsh as possible alternate, and I want to see if you're a reasonable man or an edgelord faggot. So for example, if Saddle Row Review, which was objectively the best episode this season isn't on your list, then I can avoid ever replying to you again.
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NEVER SHOULD HAVE COME HERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp5n332OoAk
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>>27987861

All your points are wrong or nonsensical.

> Twilights Princess Status
Season 4 finale and LOTS of season 5

> Discord relevancy

I don't even know what that means.

> can't decide

The show has always struck a balance. It is a strength that it can do some of each. It keeps the slice of life from being boring and the adventure from being uncomfortable.

> parodying characters

What? You mean characters imitating each other? Friends do that all the time. Joking around makes the friendship seem real.

> no conflict

> Starlight trying to get a fresh start after a rough past.
> Twilight learning to become a teacher rather than student.
> Dash finding her place on the Wonderbolts
> The CMC no longer being together all the time.
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>>27987555
>>27987563
Both of these

Lots of people have either grown out of the show and stopped watching, or became cynical about it, and instead of leaving the fandom like a normal person they choose to stick around because it's the only piece of identity they have

And in doing such, seeing other people continue to enjoy MLP and talk about new episodes enrages them because they can't relate and because it takes away from their horrible fanfiction that they desperately want circle jerk praise for since they are so much more talented than the people on the show
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>>27987861
>>27989179
You're both wrong

>Starlight Glimmer will replace Twilight Sparkle as the new princess of Equestria in the S6 finale.

>Twilight Sparkle will be turn back into her unicorn form in the future.

>The Elements of Harmony will be taken out of the Tree of Harmony because the tree doesn't need it anymore.

>The pointed middle castle will be destroyed with chaos by Discord and the Elements will restore the Golden Oak Library.
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>>27990699
And people who are obsessed with the show are newfags who missed the early days and still want to pretend everything is great. Do you see how easy this is to say?

But I can see you'd rather your own tumblr hugbox about how great the show is. Is that what you want?
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It isn't the show that's changed for the worst, it's the people. Just pure cynicism, sometimes.
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>>27991025
Other anon here, do you have your list of episodes yet? Remember, the bar is 7/10 or higher, so really it's just a list of episodes that you'd consider to be at a minimum good. For example, here's my list of the most recent 7/10 or better episodes:

Flutter Brutter
The Saddle Row Review
A Hearth's Warming Tale
No Second Prances
Gauntlet of Fire
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>>27989179
I was sure I worded myself correctly. I'm either hallucinating or you can't comprehend English very well.
Either way it's not worth arguing over.
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>>27991214
>There's only one person here who is upset with the show
I'm not him, moron. Stop thinking the world revolves around you.
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I miss the times when the CMC had speaking roles and showed up outside of their own episodes, and had more than 2 per season. It felt like it was only last year, that they still existed.
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>>27988942
>So for example, if Saddle Row Review, which was objectively the best episode this season isn't on your list, then I can avoid ever replying to you again.
You want to avoid things that don't line up with your opinions? Don't you realize how stupid that sounds?

I do think Saddle Row is the best episode of the season, but what if I didn't? You just disregard it because it doesn't conform to your safe space beliefs?

This is cancerous, this pretend belief that if people aren't religious fanatics of the series as others, that it's a problem. Not everyone needs to be infatuated with the series, other opinions are allowed to exist and they don't have to conform to your safe space circlejerk.

And for the record, Spice Up Your Life and Gift of Maud Pie in addition to Saddle Row.
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>>27991429
Scootaloo showed up at the beginning of Newbie dash tho
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>>27988235
This. I'm dissatisfied with S6, but there are still bits and pieces that I find redeemable.

Which is a metaphor for /mlp/ if you look closely enough.
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>>27991474
SRR isn't my favorite this season you ass. It consistently polls above every other episode. I just want to avoid someone edgy enough to write all of season 6, SRR included, as shit. There's no point in engaging with someone that cynical, because they'll act like a douchecanoe regardless of what anyone says to them.

Also, I can't resist:

>Gift of Maud Pie
Literally the most overrated episode this season. It only got high marks because it stood out as OK amongst a bunch of mediocre episodes that kicked off season 6. It's poll numbers have progressively fallen as better episodes aired. If you think that episode was above 6/10 then you're far more of a hasdrone than anyone else ITT.
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>>27991513
You're right. I may be exaggerating just a little bit.

I'm still unsatisfied, though. Even their involvement in The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows was nice, and now two of them have only had real speaking roles in one episode so far, which ended on a vague note where you don't even know what they're supposed to be doing now. You can't just say "we'll be doing different stuff now, things will never be the same" then disappear for 6 months.
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>>27988317
She never acted childish.
>>27988391
And yet, she had no flaws. All of Faust's characters have noticeable flaws, but Cadence has none.

It's almost like the writers are scared of giving her a flaw. Kind of like how the waifu stealers from EqG (aka Monster High ripoff) were presented. Without flaws. Like it's a corporate mandate or something because they want to sell the ideal of a perfect, photoshopped Barbie role-model or boyfriend Ken doll to little girls. Exactly what Faust hated and fought against.

And Cadence was modified from her unicorn form to become a perfect alicorn just as Faust left all involvement at the finale of S2. It's almost like the last barrier to a corporate mandate just fell to the side.

It's not obvious what had happened. It never is. You just have to put the pieces together.

Cadence was a flawless plot device. So too were the EqG waifu stealers. And the baby as well. At least the writers were decent enough to place the cancer in the Crystal Kingdom/Doug World so it shows that even they still have some basic fucking talent.
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>>27987538
It's not nearly as popular as it used to be. And it probably won't ever be again.

It's popularity is on a decline. And whether a show survives has everything to do with how popular it is.
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>>27991691
>Name episodes you like because you must be an edgy kid who hates everything
>How can you like this episode or enjoy it at all it's overrated shit kill yourself
You are probably one of the biggest hypocrites I've seen on this site. There's no words to describe how stupid that is that you actually said that.
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>>27988942
>objectively
Please can we stop using this word in such a stupid way.
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Rate my opinion:

I don't believe that the show got shitty, that the writers "don't care", or things like that. But I will admit that the same excitement that I had for the show. I like the show, but it doesn't have that initial spark it gave me back when I joined late in 2013.

I have come to the conclusion that the show hasn't gotten worse. We have only gotten more used to being horsefuckers, and we kind of passed the honeymoon effect of the show and the community. It's still good, we're just a little more "settled in".
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>>27992331
I didn't say the episode was bad, I just found it amusing that you picked Gift of Maud Pie of all the episodes out of season 6 to bestow a 7/10 or better upon. It's not a bad episode at all, but there are several other episodes that were significantly better than it, and general opinions of it have soured as more time passed. Watching you go full autismo ranting about people still liking the show and then being so charitable to a 6/10 episode is downright hilarious. It's like if I asked you to pick your favorite season 1 episode and you went with A Bird in the Hoof. Either you're secretly a total Hasdrone, and just loath yourself, you have no discerning taste at all and just make it up at random as you go along, or you get off on whining. The last two would certainly explain a lot.
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>>27993735
>you can't possibly have reasons for liking something that the hivemind doesn't love!
shut up
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>>27993735
> but there are several other episodes that were significantly better than it,
In your opinion.

Which, as is already established from my perspective, I definitely do not have your opinion. And just because the /mlp/ hivemind you think you're a part of shares your opinion, doesn't make it mine.

>Watching you go full autismo ranting about people still liking the show and then being so charitable to a 6/10 episode is downright hilarious.
Guess what dipshit, I was never >>27987931 or any of the above. I only started at >>27988912, and at >>27991474 and >>27992331 because I thought it was ridiculous that you wanted people to give you their rankings so you can judge their taste, just as you complain about others. I've just been calling out your shit because you want this to be a safe space that kicks out anyone who isn't part of the hivemind. Whoever you demanded the episodes from still hasn't replied to you. And I figured judging by your first response to me, you would just keep pestering me assuming I was him.

But again, you seem to have this belief that everyone in /mlp/ is either part of the pro-show hivemind, or against show hivemind with no middle ground. It's fucking autistic that you're only capable of classifying people as either one way or the other, and can't fucking understand that some people have different opinions of the show, and would rather just lump everyone as "They're just fandumb haters! >:( "
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>>27987538
I haven't watched since the opener. What's the one episode this season that will hook me back in?
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>>27994058
>SJW or nazi
>hillary or trump
>skub or anti-skub

>shit-tier anons not being tribal
>current year
Most sensible anons just watch the shitshow unfold and hunker down for the worst. But thanks for pointing that out for the rest of us.
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>>27994256
I have no idea what the fuck the point of this post is. It really has nothing to do with most things mentioned, and it just looks like you wanted to post a reaction image.
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>yfw Twifags are still mad about MMC
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>>27987578
>>27987578
>>27987594
>>27987676
>>27987779
>>27987789
Post your favorite TV show and I guarantee someone will call you a shiteater for liking it.
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>>27995448
Lost...
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>>27987538
That's a nice thread.
:^)
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>>27995448
The Supah Mario Show!
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>mfw retards can't understand lessons without a letter in the end therefore the show is bad
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>the show lost the spark
No, you just discovered how emotions works, example:
>normal
>won U$ 1 billion
>happy
>time goes by
>return to normal status

>repetition
No, they are showing another face of some past lessons, in a genial way considering the target and Hasbro's restrictions.
You can see how the restrictions works seeing the leak assets and old interviews about the lore and what was planned. They can't just put your fanfictions and headcanons on screen.
Also many old ideas were used in the following seasons.

>Any sort of direction the show once had is completely gone.
The show had ONE purpose and that was a toyline tell lessons for kids.

>the staffs don't care
>the writers are bad
Try to know the writing process (of many shows) before saying such shits. Reminder the restriction and that they have to follow what Hasbro's desires.
If you're an "writer" and "can do better" try ask to some staff on twitter if your pilot would be aproved in an hypothetical situation or what kind of content is more rejected in the creation process.

>u're hasdrone faggot
Since very begin the product was Hasbro's shit. So if you used to like it, you used to swallow Hasbro's shit.
Staffs just make it enjoyable, till today they keep turning the Hasbro's crazy shit ideas into something nice.
That makes MLP impressive.

>the lessons doesn't apply to me
You're a kid or have no life. Adults already know all the lessons, MLP just remind them in a nice way, that's was another impressive thing on this cartoon.
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>>27998352
nice shill
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>>27998352
Why bother explaining? The audience is peaking and they are selling toys like water. The show will not die because of the negativity of 10 angry guys.
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>>27998352
lmao look at this newfag cuck
listen kiddo, we superior gentlemen of /mlp/ are enlightened by our sheer intelligence; we try to maintain some aspect of quality
don't get me wrong, you're allowed to eat shit, but try not to act like it's a five star meal
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>>27998893
>The audience is peaking and they are selling toys like water.
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>>27998893
>Why bother explaining?
because
>pic
There's nothing wrong in posting hot opinions in this thread.
Also, boring night with porn thread destroyed by summer.

>>27998904
I don't get it.
Are you saying the shit is shit shit since ever then?
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>>27998893
Do you even think before you post?
Look at the fucking ratings for the show, it's abyssmal.
PewDiePie gets double to triple the viewership whenever he shits out a new video compared to the current state of the show's ratings.
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>>27999781
Ratings matter less than toy sales. Hasbro's girl department income has been increasing despite flagging EqG sales.
>tfw Twilight's true strength isn't the power of friendship, but the power of merchandizing!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgRFQJCHcPw
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>>28000761
He is right you know. The machine can't be stopped, not anymore.
The show may be cancelled, but they will keep releasing plastic garbage.
Hasbro won, we lost. It is over.
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