What would a UC show further into the future than this look like?

Why do people like showa It's not as if though I hate Showa, there's just legitimately nothing interesting that it can offer me.
I just can't sit down and watch 50 episodes of extremely formulaic and objectively bad acting and writing with little to no hook besides "hey im watching old thing this is neat i am so patrician". I'm not enough of a masochist to subject myself to that and I don't care enough about the opinions of others online to try and gain their approval by pretending that I think Showa rider is in any way actually better than any Heisei

>>15776806
Wrong thread

>>15776787
Something more Turn A wise id imagine. Greco just pumped out alot of ugly suits with "magical level science" weapons.

>>15776792
that happens before g reco

>>15776819
i kinda want to see a series that happens between turn a and g reco. surely some kind of conflict happened in those 500 years. sad turn a isn't mentioned once in g reco, if i recall correctly

What is 00's relation to Turn A?

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>>15776787
concept greco looked a lot weirder

>>15776868
Theory behind the solar reactors played into the development of a black hole energy reactor in the Turn

>>15776906
it also looks better

>>15776868
>>15776911
So when would it take place?

>>15776937
Going by series setting, 00 is basically the forerunner of the franchise, taling place 300 years ahead of our own.
Turn A as often quotef from a translated gunpla instructions guide, is set at the end of the Gundam universe, and that both UC and AU are in one timeline (couldve been misinterpreted, but thats up to debate).

>>15777012
i know that but how the fuck does that work

>>15777052
It doesn't work. It makes no fucking sense, it actively detracts from the work itself, and you only have to think about it for like 15 seconds to realize that it's stupid. Basically it's the "deckard is a replicant" of Gundam. It's something the guy behind it thought sounded cool and deep and decided to implement and make it canon without even a second thought.

>>15777052

It doesn't, turn A is at best vaguely defined as being in the far future without any regard about how an unified universe where all the gundam shows happened somehow worked.

Just don't think about it, don't be like those zelda autists that tries to make a timeline out of all the zelda games.

>>15777066
>>15777073
so if anything, i'd like to see a show actually fucking explaining this

>>15777073
UC definitely leads to CC then RC. The G Gundam references in the Black History were obviously meant as a joke, and the Devil Gundam does not have a monopoly on nanomachines.

>>15777081

If sunrise is as talentless as the team writing super robot wars, probably cycles of death and rebirth of the universe would be involved, kinda like in that silly "Judau is the reincarnation of the main dude of Ideon" in that one gundam/ideon manga.

Otherwise it is fucking impossible to explain how the technology of the world always regresses every X millenia in the impossible idea of all of them taking place in the same continuity.

To answer the question of the UC AU one timeline claim, it isnt actually
Each series from AU borrows alot from previous
UC focuses on one timeline even with a few variations (ec thunderbolt)
The only source saying these two are one is a GUNPLA MANUAL
A LITERAL TOY MODEL INSTRUCTION BOOK WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT
The most likely cause is that the translation was misinterpreted and meant something about our world and the wonders of Gundam

>>15777123
well does anyone have the damn booklet AND can read japanese? there has to be someone who can give it to us again

>>15777179
The thing is also no one in the industry (bandai, sunrise, etc) has ever mentioned the One Timeline, even now that Gundam AND Gunpla are getting much more attention and much more profit. It may have never been a thing and they just dont care enough to tell westerners that were debating about something as dumb as the One Timeline theory

>>15777105
that still doesn't make sense because the history of the world always seems to play out roughly the same until you get to the age of space exploration and then wildly diverges in politics and technological advancement.
And sometimes there's autistic space magic and sometimes there isn't

>>15777190

Hence why I called the cycles concept something only a talentless hack would do. Many leaps of logic are involved to make it work at all.

It is effectively impossible to combine all the series in a single timeline without looking like a retard.

further down the line they shrink mobile suits into power armor

literally making them suits.

>>15777190
People will keep making the same mistakes. Simple as that. That's the whole message being Turn A and G-Reco being the last entries in the timeline. History has been repeated -- humanity destroying itself in conflict -- so often that it takes literally unknown periods of time for people to FINALLY evolve enough to realise "wait a sec this fighting is fuckin dumb" like in G-Reco's ending and to a lesser extent Turn A

>>15776868
Alternate universe.

>>15776792
Why does Tomino have four legs?

>>15777081
The manual for the MG Turn X suggests something interesting. It goes something like all the other Gundam timelines besides CC are all different interpretations of what happened before the Moonlight Butterfly. None of them are strictly canon, but they are all based on records from the Black History.

I remember there was actually something like this in MS Saga. There was this one bookshelf that when examined said that while the society before the Great Fall used Universal Century, other records say they used After Colony or Future Century.

>>15776841
>still perpetuating this misinformation

>>15777384
how is it misinformation? tomino said it himself

>>15776906
I think I kinda liked Bellri's initial design a bit more.
What we have is fine, but the other one was more interesting.

Also I prefer the Concept G-Self over what we got.
Don't get me wrong I love the G-Self, but its concepts looked a lot more distinguishing

>>15776906
The second bellri, I'm assuming that's Bellri looks freaking adorable, and he already was freaking adorable in the final show. I also like nugs outfit.

>>15777476
First of all, that was mistranslated.

Secondly, if Moonlight Butterfly's nanomachines destroy technology, why are there rusted old Z'gok's at Jaburo during the climax of G Reco?

>>15776787
Turn A.

>>15777699
Not him, but if that's the case why were they able to dig up old OYW suits in Turn A? I get what you're trying to say, but you picked a poor example my man.

>>15777740
Being in an open air cave is different than being buried. I doubt the nanomachines went into the ground, which is why you can find old suits as long as they were buried.

>>15777740

Nano-skin helped preserve a number of them.

>>15777699
i doubt it destroyed literally everything, the z'goks may have been buried underground like the zakus and kapools
weren't the z'goks in a closed off cave to begin with

>>15777757
Nah, Mask and Belri literally find a cave entrance and walk into Jaburo. Def not buried.

>>15777771
makes sense, i still think turn a was the best gundam series despite the flaws

>>15777740
I've always liked the idea that the mountain cycles were actually mobile suit museums, which is why they are full of old as shit mobile suits that for some reason had the nanomachine preservation stuff on them, all located in a relatively small area

>>15776819
>ugly suits

You're a bad man

>>15777801
they were though

>>15777819
You're ugly

>>15776787
it's just literal bricks battling each other

>>15777752
Jaburo wasn't open air to begin with, and I imagine most of its entrances collapsed when it got nuked

>>15777771
The entrance could've been opened up after the initial moonlight butterfly. It's been millenia since it happened

>>15780754
MSV-R (mangas aren't canon) asserts that the nuke at Jaburo was a low yield tactical nuke that only destroyed part of Jaburo. There were still extensive underground facilities that hadn't been damaged and still usable.

I guess it could have been timed to go off when it was expected that the majority of the AEUG forces would be caught in it.

>>15780762
could have, but i don't think there's a way of knowing for sure. it's questions like these why i want a show in between turn a and g reco

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>>15776787
Yoshida sketching G-self.

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>>15784668
そしても俺たちのおねえさん!

>>15784668
The only reason I'm looking forward to the movies is because it increases the chances of MG G-Self Ver. Ka.

>>15784688
>The boss fight against G-Self in Gundam Breaker 3 is against a HG G-Self, while all the others are against MG models
How laughably pathetic. Never ever ever.

>>15784668
>>15784675
I love yoshida's art so much

>>15776906
>those weird transformable ones that got introduced early on
Oh fuck, I had purged those from my mind, those were retarded.

>>15776787
I'd like to see the UC go far enough into the future that their society/societies are practically post-scarcity. I'd like to see what kinda bonkers shit you can come up with when all other tech has caught up to MS development. Mobile Armors the size of Side 3, a Gundam that has its post-human pilot wear it like armor, a GM that can take a beam saber to the fits and keep going. Really out there shit.


Failing that, cyberpunk Gundam. I don't think they've really done it yet. A colony on the edge of human civilization ruled by competing megacorporations with the main characters trying to tear down the corrupt system but forced to work with it to survive, a subversive story of a war in the shadows and the slow awakening of a placated populace. Heavy on the punk aesthetic, tons of augmentations, distinct design languages for the different Corps.

>>15784707
Yet you can still have a 1/100th G-Self...spooooooky!

>>15785301
200th MG pls

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>>15776787
>it is BRE Beyond Reguild Era 1000 and the dictatorship established by the incestuous line of Rayhunton has begun to crumble

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>>15787532
Where is that from?

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>>15787535
>you will never raise your best friend's bastard son because you're impotent

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>>15776787

>>15776787
>UC show further into the future than this

Then it wouldn't be a UC show anymore, dummy.

>>15787892
1) Why is cca on there twice?
2) While timeline stuff is usually silly, I must ask, how does late uc turn into ad/ce where they just invented mobile suits, and how is ac>aw>ag supposed to work?

>>15777012
>00 is basically the forerunner of the franchise, taling place 300 years ahead of our own.
UC is 21st-22nd Century. The MG Turn X manual explicitly states that it begins the timeline and Turn A ends it (it was before G-Reco came out). All the other shows go in the middle or possibly later (IBO's moon damage is problematic) but UC definitely comes first.

>>15777095
>The G Gundam references in the Black History were obviously meant as a joke
Tomino's setting notes refer to MLB nanomachines as "Perfected DG Cells". Sorry about your headcanon.

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>>15787892
nigger where the FUCK is CE 73: Stargazer?!

>>15777699
>why are there rusted old Z'gok's at Jaburo during the climax of G Reco?
I dunno, maybe being nuked to shit in Zeta somehow protected them.
Also the MLB didn't destroy everything. It protected several Zaku for reasons unknown, it didn't affect the Adeskan mass driver. It didn't affect the Sacktraeger. It didn't affect the Lunar City. It didn't affect whatever MS that was that Will dug up. It didn't affect the ships they dug up. It didn't affect the Turn A's weapon silo. Lots of tech survived the MLB, so the Z'goks shouldn't be a surprise.

Except for the fact that the Titans planted two nukes underground in Jaburo in an attempt to kill the AEUG and collapsed the entire base.

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>>15788060
I don't know, that was just the latest "complete" timeline I could find.

>>15787892
That is literally the most retarded timeline possible. Why the fuck would it split into parallel universes from UC? Why would X follow Wing when X uses newtypes and UC colonies? Why would they go from AD to UC back to AD as if UC never happened?

Really at this point the only acceptable way to explain the AUs is to go the Macross route and say every single one is a fictional retelling of UC since Turn-A and G-Reco both only have UC suits physically preserved and represented.

>>15788278
FYI, that's an updated version of a chart from a magazine article about a video game. It's not remotely official, let alone canon.

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>>15785145
You're talking shit about the Elf Bull, faggot?

>>15776819
>magical level science
Other than "Photon" weapons and Mazraster's whip-chain, it's the exact same thing as any other UC series.
Other than the Photon Torpedoes, there was Photon Eye missiles that were used to get around Minovsky particle scattering.

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>>15788327
So far the only timeline I can think truly exists for the UC is: 0079/Char's adventures, then F91, Crossbone, Victory, Saviour, then either Turn A or Gaia Gear/Char's Return. All rest are AU.

>>15788343
>All rest are AU.
Not if you've seen Turn A. G Gundam is central to the setting of Turn A, because the MLB is Perfected DG Cells (according to the writer/director himself). I don't even see a point in trying to argue about how hard any other show might be to fit into the timeline. G Gundam, wherein people can kick skyscrapers out of the ground, BECOME TEN GUNDAMS TO COUNTER YOUR ATTACK, activate the SUPER MODE, etc, etc, is inextricably linked to Turn A's canon.

>>15788347
Yeah I only made it to episode 13 of Turn A. Loran bugs the fuck out of me and I cringe when I hear Mobile Dolls. But I want to see Turn X in action dammit.

>>15788347
And then Tomino said it goes UC > Turn A > G-Reco.

What's your point?

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>>15788051
Asked a friend that can read japanese and like gundam to read and this is what he said to me.

Also send him this links (https://nekketsunikki.wordpress.com/2015/08/27/tomino-said-g-reco-takes-place-around-500-years-after-turn-a/)

And he said that the booklet said g-reco was 500 years BEFORE Turn A, but Tomino himself said it was a type, and it was AFTER Turn A.

>>15784668
great

>>15784732
almost every show he's done work on looks fucking amazing