Robotech #1 storytime

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>>15743206
also, gonna skip the useless pages like that before, because fuck me right?

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>>15743215
boom!

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>>15743220
>hayes

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>>15743228

Why isn't Roy wearing a helmet?

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>>15743230

Oh yeah, this is an American comic. You're supposed to read left-to-right. I was confused for a minute.

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>>15743237
>>15743232
dunno.

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>>15743245

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>>15743248
what a dick of a brother

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>>15743252

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>>15743261

>trying this hard to be serious and cool
This is downright embarrassing

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>>15743265

All the girls are ugly and Hikaru's Cyclops sunglasses are dumb.

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>>15743269
>>15743271
>captcha: found the sunglasses

are you a wizard?

>>15743206
The only thing I like is the cover so far

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>>15743274

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>>15743279

Why does Gloval always has that "datass" face?

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>>15743283

>>15743274
>>15743279
>>15743283
It feels like a page is missing here and out of order. American comic writers are dumb. They don't know how to make a story flow.

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>>15743290
>what are interludes

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>>15743297
>>15743292
>>what are interludes

it was meant for you.

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>>15743297

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>>15743302

>>15743277


The characters look like shit. Even for a western standard they look like whores. The whole bloody cast. And what the fucking hell is Master Chief doing in a god damn Roboshit comic ?
The VF-1 nose looks bad. Maybe they don't want to get sued by Kawamori ?
The coloring is decent, so except for this thing being called Roboshit, having a whore cast, Master Chief and emasculated VF-1s it's a fun reading but no fucking way I'm spending $s on it.

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>>15743306

>Gloval is white now

Wasn't Gloval/Global always kind of brown-skinned?

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>>15743310
>The VF-1 nose looks bad. Maybe they don't want to get sued by Kawamori ?

What I don't get is why they (slightly) changed the design of the VF-1 but all the other designs (Regults, Zentraedi ships and SDF-1) are the same.

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>>15743316

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>>15743321
end, not gonna post the variant covers, here a colection of them.

I liked, the only thing I knew about Robotech it was Robotech the Graphic Novel.

>>15743318

Oh there is another thing I noticed, the bloody bridge crew wears shoes with high heels during their service turn. I mean c'mon, what the fuck ?

>>15743306
>don't mind me, just going to threaten this possibly-injured allied fighter pilot with a baseball bat

>>15743215
Gloval making "Dat Ass" face.

>Japanese opens Chinese restaurant
Sounds like some sort of food analogy.

>>15743318
>What I don't get is why they (slightly) changed the design of the VF-1 but all the other designs (Regults, Zentraedi ships and SDF-1) are the same.
I guess they didn't find any other cheap artist they could buy re-designs from.

And why is Minmei saying Rick shot that pod? He didn't shoot anything; hell, he didn't even crash against any building. It's like they decided to change the events but keep the old dialogue.

>>15743324
>That JAV cover.

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>>15743215

>>15743380
hayai

I hate how nobody in America can draw a comic anymore with good clean lines. It's got to have over 9000 poorly planned random scribbles to imply detail.

>>15743314
They also made Claudia Ugly

>>15743206

That cover art is the only good thing about this so far. If there was a clean version of it available, would be tempted to print it out as a poster.

Pretty cool so far. Really neat design for the fighters and alien craft.

>>15743228

Something about the not!Spartan's visor seems really off to me for some reason.

Frankly, the continued existence of Robotech is downright insulting.

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>>15743237

The classic SDF designs feel super out of place next to the bland tryhard stuff.

>>15743503
How so? It was one of the most successful localizations of an anime at the time. The gateway drug to an entire generation of western mecha fans. Is it purely because of Harmony Gold's legal shenanigans you have a bitter taste in your mouth?

>>15743524
I watched Macross first. Looking at Robotech is like watching a friend get raped and robbed at the same time.

>>15743503
I'm not even insulted, just baffled. HG just needs to give it up already, it surely can't be making them that much money anymore. The last time they tried releasing it on DVD it didn't even finish Macross.

>>15743524
>This

Also the comic is pretty decent

>>15743547
>HG just needs to give it up already,
I always wonder what it would take for HG to finally and permanently lose the rights to Macross.

>>15743237
>super dimension fortress
They're trying too hard. Robotech poofters won't even care about Macross refrences.

>>15743687
But they consistently called the ship the SDF-1 in the show you dope.

>>15743693
An acronym doesn't stand for anything until you tell the audience what it stands for, and I highly doubt such an 80's 'pretend the Japanese original doesn't exist' kind of show ever used a goofy engrush term like super dimension fortress. Did they? If not, that makes it a Macross reference.

>>15743265
>only helicopters in sight are a bunch of UH-60D's
>suddenly cockpit view is some kind of single seat attack helicopter and there's a bunch of minigun barrels coming from nowhere
wew

>>15743395
There are lots of good comic artists who don't do le edgy dark thick scratchy lineart. Harmony Gold just can't afford them.

>>15743719
They already used "Veritech" and "Macross city", so I wouldn't doubt it. But now I'm interested if that name does even appear specifically.

>>15743206
Why the fuck do people buy this shit?

Is there any way we can strip Harmony Gold of their license? Can someone just offer millions of dollars to Tatsunoko?

>>15743719
>Did they?
I don't remember, but it's very possible it slipped in like the occasional use of Valkyrie did.

Why are there so many goddamn things going over the panels? Like this guys hat >>15743261 >>15743274 and this guys leg and hand >>15743279
It's ridiculous.

>>15743261
Why does Captain Gloval look like George Noory?

>>15743228
Would a helicopter-based veritech instead of having a fighter mode get something like a "marine mode"? Since they already can take off and land in their helicopter mode.

>>15743228
They traced those helicopters from a CG model, didn't they?
They couldn't even be bothered to make the helicopter blades be in different positions for each one.

>>15743829
>George Noory

More like Lord Kitchener to me for some reason.

>>15743279
wait if Rick's mini plane got fragged, how is he gonna do his "escape" with Minmei later?

>>15743524
>It was one of the most successful localizations of an anime at the time
And? What does this have to do with its continued existence 30 years on? The only thing keeping it going is the delusional nostalgia of a handful of middleaged neckbeards, and HG are too chickenshit to deviate from the only thing those neckbeards care about, which is the Macross part of the show.

>>15743898
More importantly why does 15 year old Minmei look like she's in her mid 20s?

>>15743829
no pizza rolls on the bridge captain

>>15743912
Because she's white now I guess

>>15743898
>wait if Rick's mini plane got fragged, how is he gonna do his "escape" with Minmei later?

Haven't you seen that this comic doesn't follow the animated version of Roboshit : The Macross Sage as closely as the Comico one of yesteryear ?

If Harmony Shit manages to finish this comic they'll do a slightly better job than fucking Mikimoto did with Macross the first.

>>15743889
>They traced those helicopters from a CG model, didn't they?
they traced the VFs from cg models also. Does anyone still have to comparison pic?

>>15743306
>Minmei with a baseball bat
I wonder if Ranka will carry a certain weapon like this.

>>15743905
>you old sourpuss

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>>15743719
>>15743775
>>15743769
>>15743769
I only read this graphic novel, but there is SDF written there, but there lots and lots of robotech shit outta there, maybe there is some.

where the fuck are the mechs goddamnit?
its the only reason why i was even interested in this ever since the voltron comics got cancelled.
and why is this art style so trash?

>>15743769
I don't recall "Veritech" being an actual term in Macross. Was it in one of the other two? Didn't watch those

>>15744394
No, Veritech was never used. They're called Variable Fighters (or Valkyries) in Macross. Robotechnology is called OverTechnology.

>>15744394
I'm pretty sure Veritech is from Robot*ch.

>>15743314
I thought he was Mediterranean

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>>15743959
Found it, even though HG probably bought the license of the 3d model to use they didn't credit the creator at all.

>>15744432
In Robotech he is from Eastern Europe. Russia or Ukraine, I think. You can see him saying "bozhe moi" which is Russian for "oh my God" from time to time.

>>15743619
>>15743774

Hopefully this latest frivolous lawsuit against Battletech and MWO will help with that, if the judge is any good.

>>15743318
It's from the Japanese court decision years ago. They're not allowed to re-use the SDF Macross designs in new productions(only merchandise), which makes it really weird that only the VF-1 and characters are different.

It looks fine, stop trying to fit in by hating on Robotech

>>15743524
>believing this crap

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>>15743524

>>15744432
He's Italian in Macross

>>15743915
Get out of here John B. Wells

>>15743912
Most likely because in this continuity she *is* in her twenties.

I could be wrong, but she acts a lot more mature here than she did in the show.

>>15743905
Honestly, I preferred Southern Cross, setting-size.

>>15744674
He did say "one of", not "the".

>>15744674
>Posts a series that was more heavily altered in the English version from the component shows

>>15745129
>Posts a series that was more heavily altered in the English version from the component shows

Space Battleship Yamato a.k.a Starblazers.

Holy shit the way the characters in every single panel looks so ugly and awkward, i had to focus on just reading the dialogue and not looking at the artwork to keep myself from cringing.
I guess they really couldn't afford an artist that was anywhere near decent.

>>15745292
Yeah, the art is really mediocre.
Also, personal issue, but I really dislike this style of coloring.

>>15743380
This made everything worth it.

>>15743323
It was a bold move giving the Hikaru/Rick downs syndrome in this version.

>>15743524
Why do people buy this load of BS? It did absolutely nothing to make anime mainstream in the west. That wouldn't happen until years later with Dragon Ball Z and Pokemon.

It's remembered fondly by a tiny niche of people, many of which never got into anime at large evidenced by the fact that they're still fans of Robotech. All attempts to revive the Robotech "brand" have failed spectacularly and the only part anyone cares about is Macross which is better watched as Macross.

And as far as western mecha fans go we're a microscopic group and half of us are probably Toeizinger Pablos or faggots that started with Gundam Wing.

>>15743206
Hey wait a second, I jerked off to that Minmay on Danbooru before, I'm pretty sure Jonathan Hamilton doesn't even know what Robotech is.

>>15745774
nobody under the age of 30 knows what a robotech is.

>>15745810
It is the reason why Jetfire looked different and was called "Skyfire" in the Transformers cartoon

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Jesus the dialogue flows really weird

>Hayes sets down and just goes on a tangent of "secure the perimeter lock it down go go go move move move" bullshit a child would shout while playing army
>Not to mention some random fuckass pilot is there(Roy), not even in combat get up but just wearing his own pilot suit like they nabbed him off the airforce base on their way there.
>also, what the fuck is "keep your cool, and you'll be able to write your own future." about? Where did that come from?

And so many other examples. But the fucking art is the worst. The only good piece of art in this fucking comic is the cover page and its alts.

Seriously, all the pages look messy as fuck, in both art quality and general layout. Im pretty sure I saw some Frank Faces in there too.

I hope this comic bombs. I say this not only as a macrossfag, but more as a person whose eyes are sore after looking at this.

>>15747188
This is how you know /m/ doesn't know shit about comics, look this comment.

>>15743261
>Misa's copypasta face in the second and fifth panels

Heh, that weird emotionless expression looks like it's traced off some supermodel too.

>>15747312
Please explain.

>>15743228
>>15743232
He's not wearing any kind of protective suit or armor, despite everyone else apparently worried about biohazards or radiation. Also, is it just me or does anyone else think he has poor trigger discipline? His finger is right on the trigger of his space gun instead of outside the guard, despite the fact he's not aiming at anything, which I thought was unsafe.

>>15743228
Are those looters or ayys they're holding up in the final panel? Why is Roy in his silly pilot jumpsuit next to Haloman?

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>>15747469
Those look like emergency first responders/firemen/biohazard suit dudes.
So it is sort of confusing why Halo McMasterchief and Roy feel the need to point guns at them when presumably they could just pull rank/clearance on them and get them to fuck off and not ask questions.

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>>15747312
Almost all the comics discussed on this board were drawn by Tezuka, Matsumoto, Nagai, and the people who pretended to be them. How dare you say the average /m/an's taste in comic books is shit.
Call me a weeb all you want, but the optimal flow of action in a comic should be the same in Japanese and American form, since even though the average tankobon has a different shape than the average magazine comic, the essentials are still the same. I think most of the people who read manga nowadays as opposed to American comics is because Jappo comics do action a lot fucking better. Also, American comics do the most retarded shit with words in our comics, which most indie comics avoid.
Look at the flow of this page. Feel the motion and the distinct lines. Isn't that nice?

>>15743215
Rick is looking MOST DANGEROUS there

>>15744559
>slavs in charge of macross

REMOVE ZENTRAN

>>15743524
> It was one of the most successful localizations of an anime at the time. The gateway drug to an entire generation of western mecha fans

You've got it backwards. roobotech was one of the least successful localizations of that time. So unsuccessful it never got a sequel or even a transforming toy of the vf-1.

Of all the 80's, and even late 70's anime that were localized robotech wouldn't even be in the top 10 popularity wise IMO and the near complete lack of robotech references in western pop culture, most notably robot chicken bears this out. Astro boy, voltron, star blazers and all the assorted giant mecha shows were far more popular and successful hence why when ever theres a reference it's always one of these shows and not robotech.

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>>15747312
he's right though.

American comics has been reduced to no more than just drawn pin-up art in box panels with dialogue put in.

find me a cape comic with more dynamic art and paneling as this

>>15747776

Careful, you're gonna destroy that guy's ego.

>>15747776
>the near complete lack of robotech references in western pop culture
Maybe people just dont want to get sued by HG

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>>15748212
You can do references without actually using anything from Robotech itself.

>>15748212
>Maybe people just dont want to get sued by HG

Yeah right. The simplest explanation is that people don't give a shit about Robotech hence its virtual disappearance from pop culture. I mean even during the fucking conventions when there is Robotech panel there's nobody there (except for the same 6 old time geezers). That ain't a sign of a healthy vibrant fan community.

>>15748255
What a lot of people don't realize is that rt didn't even air nationally it was only picked up by a few local networks back in the 80's. The fact that harmony golds kickstarter for a new series bombed so incredibly hard should be a wake up call to anyone who thinks rt was actually successful or popular. The 1990's run on toonami was probably more viewed than the original broadcast.

>>15748265
So how did the other Macross do?

>>15748255
I went to a panel with a showing of Shadow Chronicles at Otakon when it first came out and what you described is completely accurate.

>>15748392
What other macross? The jap macross? Well the original tv run was so popular they extended it from 26(?) episodes to 36(?) and it got the very expensive, very nice DYRL movie. Interestingly harmony and macek had the opportunity to license DYRL but they declined because it was too expensive! Instead they bought the rights to megazone 23 and butchered that into a robotech movie somehow. However this movie was so terrible it didn't didn't get a proper theatrical release it only played a few test screenings before it got dumped. I saw it on VHS in the 90's so it must have got some kind of limited release.

If robotech was so successful why didn't they have the cash to license the dyrl movie?

>>15748392
Well enough for multiple sequels to be made.

>>15748439
and if macek loved macross so much how come he didn't beg ol' frankie boy to give him some of that delicious mafioso money to license DYRL
really makes me ponder

>>15748445
It is a mystery why one of the most successful localizations of the 80's could not afford to license the movie, or release a transforming toy of the main vehicle for the series. It's almost like the narrative of robotech being super popular is marketer bullshit.

>>15747445
Look the writer, he is an experienced writer, and an experienced military type writer, he wrote DMZ which run for 72 issues, he knows whats up.

>Not to mention some random fuckass pilot is there(Roy), not even in combat get up but just wearing his own pilot suit like they nabbed him off the airforce base on their way there.

that was literally what happened, seeing how the superior office is all armored and he isn't shows that he has a better position in the militaty

>"keep your cool, and you'll be able to write your own future." about? Where did that come from?

Look how this poster cannot even interpretate this sentence, the leader is saying that they can make big because of the crash and the things found there, he can stop being just a pilot and be something more, this is the point of that sentence.

>all the pages look messy as fuck, in both art quality and general layout.

He doen't understand what is the point of this first issue, he says the layouts are bad, but this is pretty competent in setting the ambiance, the land, the everything, look the amount of panels zooming back and in sequence like this:

>>15743230
>>15743237

You can see the evolution of society arround the SDF-1, the flow of the actions happening in these pages (the flow of light in the MC's face flowing in the source of the light itself.

>>15743279
>>15743283

The whole spectrum of the setting is important in this issue, because it shows for the first time what we should know for the first time. There is lots of things going on and lots of interludes.

>>15747532
The point is that this issue point is not action, its purpose is to set the setting, the characters and what is going on in a sense of showing to first readers.

>but the optimal flow of action in a comic should be the same in Japanese and American form

WRONG! The format and the form of publishing matters so much that they can override this easily. Never expect a 48 action page from a BD that comes a new tome in...

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>>15748678
continuing...

from a BD that comes a new tome in 1 or 2 years, the aspect of publishing makes things possible and not, this comic was published in monthly issue in a different way of a manga chapter (in magazine format, bundling other chapters and making it easier to make an action sequence with lots of flow).

>>15748132
done.

>>15748678
You probably think you're blending in but you're not. Fuck off and go back to marketing school you're as transparent as glass and as retarded as kevin mckeever.

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>>15748696
this looks like someone can't refute shit and is going to try offending me.

just stop mate, this is not going to work.

>>15748693

I enjoy Deadpool comics as much as the next guy but this is just a mess, anon.

>>15748702
>this is not going to work.


So just like your pathetic attempts at marketing and damage control then?

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>>15748708
No, it isn't, if you break each panel and analyze it, you can see it is a great action sequence in motion. It is even greater because all settings are in motion too, it is hard as fuck doing a chase sequence in comic format, and this did it masterfully.

But of course, it need trained eyes to understand, and of course I do not expect people on /m/ to understand that.

>>15748715
Comics shouldn't need trained eyes to fucking decipher what's going on, that's called being incompetent at panelling and layouts.
You aren't fooling anyone, buddy.

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>>15748753
if this was true, we would still be using this kinda of paneling grid and never changing.

The medium evolves anon, stop being retarded.

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>>15748882
If your panel layouts confuse the average comic book reader, then they are trash, pure and simple.
Panels are supposed to convey the story and action. They are a vehicle, a tool, not an art unto themselves.

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>>15748907
>panels are not an art

HAHAHA, this is why I am quoting this again
>>15747312

Now you are going to say that lettering is just a mean, a tool and not a part of the visual identity itself.

You do not give awards to a hammer, to a scissors, to a pencil, you give them for those who can use it masterfully.

But if you like your "tools", that is fine, because with these posts, you sure are a tool.

>>15748715

>being this pretentious over capeshit

>>15748971
That's just Kago jacking off over his (admittedly) impressive technical ability.
>Now you are going to say that lettering is just a mean, a tool and not a part of the visual identity itself
It is. As long as the typeface is readable, it doesn't really matter.

Comics are a medium to tell stories. A comic with conservative panelling and okay art but with great writing is worth far more than some capeshit with complex layouts and ultra dynamic poses.

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>>15749016
I know you are retarded but try this: Can you think the same for movies and animation? For books even.

Think about this:

How many types of execution you could make with a simple action:

opening a door.

You could make the same action in so many different ways that people could like one or another way, even the most boring one like you do.

And lets quote this: "A comic with conservative panelling and okay art but with great writing is worth far more than some capeshit with complex layouts and ultra dynamic poses."

That is exactly what this robotech does (not the story, its too soon for that). It is common paneling as fuck, but what you and other people are doing is trying to shitpost without any reason and motives.

And yet, you are still talking shit and trash about things you clearly don't know shit. Stop being embarrassing yourself, it is not worth it.

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>>15745521
>and half of us are probably Toeizinger Pablos or faggots that started with Gundam Wing.
I discovered 0079 and EVA from the Pokemon mangas.

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>>15749062

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>/m/ doesn't understand comics
Doesn't surprise me at all.

>>15747532
>comics discussed on this board
Comics and manga are both different things right down to panelling, flow and style for the most part. But you'd have to have read more than one thing of both to understand this.

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>>15749062
It was Sci-Fi Channel's "The New Adventures of Gigantor" dub of 1980 Tetsujin for me. Though I had watched American stuff like Transformers before that.

I didn't know Robotech existed until Toonami.

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Any anons play this? It was vaguely connected to other Robotech stuff and you had power armor that turned into a motorcycle. I remember it being great but I was a wee lad at the time so it probably aged horribly.

>>15749189
Nope. I only played Battlecry (based on Macross Saga, but most characters are OC)

>>15749192

I always wanted to play that but the neighbor kid that had it was one of those "you can watch me play" types

>>15749189
nah, like everybody I just played the (not that bad) Battlecry
I was very disappointed that they dropped the cel shading for this.

>>15749189
It was playable at the time but no I don't think you'd have much fun with it today.

>>15749202
You didn't miss much it was pretty clunky. There's a better actual Macross game on PS2. It's in Moon but it's playable.

>>15744581
>They're not allowed to re-use the SDF Macross designs in new productions(only merchandise),
Comic books are merchandise, anon. That's how they got away with the Robotech/Voltron crossover and the Robotech: Battlecry video game. That court decision applies to animation, not to comics and video games.

>>15748693
>>15748702
>>15748715


Are you fucking kidding me?

that's just random montage scenes all put together. there's no flow. the action jumps all over the place. like i said, cape comics shit is just pin-up art in panels with dialogue put in

>>15749189
Yep, still have it.
Slightly disappointed that most of the areas were just too small for the motorcycle mode to really be useful, but after all those years of playing the Palladium Books' Robotech RPG in campaigns set during/after MOSPEADA, going into Reflex Point in first-person was a wonderfully surreal experience.

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>>15749365
COME HERE PEOPLE, LETS TEACH THE DUMB /m/ POSTER

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>>15749467
if you need a diagram to explain a comic page, it is not well done.
Jiro Matsumoto is someone who's mastered clean and simple panelling, and his comics are a pleasure to read.
That page you posted has multiple angle and perspective shifts with no clear delineation of panels, leaving it a gigantic mess.

>>15749467

Too many unexplained perspective shifts, the very first two panels are the same thing from opposite sides.

Keep making these, though. By wasting your time you're preventing others from getting their time wasted by you.

>marveldrone /co/cksucker getting btfo by /m/

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>>15749467
OH NO, ITS A MS PAINT COMIC. SURE SHOWED ME!!

Like I said, its just a bunch of retarded drawn pin up art in panels. the action would benefited from spreading it to 3 to 4 pages, making it flow better, but no, cram it to 1 page because its trying to be cinematic

>>15749548
The Marveldrone can't even speak English fluently.

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>>15749482
A 10 year old child can read, this is a fact, but can he understand what is going on? You can watch any movie, but can you understand what you are watching, can you understand how it is done? No, you can't. This is just like illusion, you can "see" but not understand what the illusionist is doing.


>multiple angle and perspective shifts with no clear delineation of panels, leaving it a gigantic mess.

panels do not need to be delineated, holy shit, earlier comics never even HAD panels. You are reading a SINGLE PAGE, the pages before that shows who and where they were, you and I are trying to show what goes in a single page. what looks chaotic is quite well planned.ow l

Now the Jiro's page you posted is a really bad example. Look how he draws the floor on movement and not the person on the bike. Look how the umbrella works making it hard to understand if there is movement or it is floating. I could only see when it shows the 3 objects moving closer. And he uses action line when nothing is shown moving in the las panel.

>>15749532
They are not the same thing, they are in motion you retard. And the pages before already showed that all the action is on the SAME side, there is no point in not doing this again.

>>15749554
Every medium have its limits, why do you think there isn't a 4000 pages volume book or movies with 50 hours? The way this comic was published doesn't allow you to waste pages in just action when there is other things to happen (it is a 5 issue mini)

>>15749189

Imagine Halo, if it sucked

>>15749614

Those panels literally show the truck facing two different directions and you're going to tell me they're on the same side?

I thought we were the ones that didn't know how to read comics

>>15749614
Good christ, you're fucking retarded.

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>>15749623
we never saw the right side of the truck, only the left side.

In this case there is only a left side for action.

>>15749641

It starts on the right side, top left corner. You were there, man. C'mon.

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>>15749614
Hmm... why is it that cape shit are having troubles conveying actions with a very smooth flow, so they are opting to the "Taken" style of "cinematic" action? While manga has no troulbe of wasting wasting a whole issue to just punching someone's balls?

Hmmmm? I know that word, its on the tip of my tongue

thread is 2 days old, why aren't we all laughing?

>>15747188

Sometimes it has that rotoscoped over CGI look I see in indie comics a lot. Bothers the shit out of me.

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>>15749368
>playing the Palladium Books' Robotech RPG

>Gritty Roy
Fucking dropped. Why do Murican retards ruin everything?

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>>15750575
Got to have that muh serious series feel for serious individuals such as myself

I only liked the cover.

>It was drawn by Artgerm
Yeah, makes sense.

>>15743261
Wow, they turned Global white?

>>15747336
Doesn't she look a little bit like Karen Gillan?

>>15747776
All Robotech accomplished was to diminish Macross' success in Occident.

>>15748693
The only "dynamism" I get from this page is all being a mess and needing a few seconds to figure it out. Once you do is stale as fuck. It feels like those cheap movies that can only accomplish some sort of rhythm with constant, unnecessary flashbacks and telling things in the wrong order.

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>>15750223
which is exactly the thing that bothers me. they are tracing over the helicopters and it looks like they traced over some people and draw over them, what is stopping them from just buying an Arcadia VF-1 and pose it, take pics of it and trace all over it?

I mean there's lot of art being thrown around these days that are drawn with the help of figmas

>>15748678
Look... Brian Wood is really good author in his other works, but this is pure shit. You're trying too hard to give it a pass. This is lazy and far beneath Wood's previous work. I'm embarrassed second-hand for Wood reading this dribble.

The art is also really hideous. The artist is at least simicompetent. But that doesn't save for the too heavy inking, odd proportions, and terrible paneling. This is far below manga and even your average cape-shit is better when it comes to pacing. I do feel this is a limit imposed by American comics have a page limits, thus forcing things. But, the still stands that it's all around bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mNCGtQGpdE

Wait, What? Serious?

>>15750958
It only took a decade.

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>>15750585
What the fuck is that pic? DELETE

>>15750585
WHAT THE FUCK

>>15743206
>Samefacegerm

Into the trash

>>15750692
>these days
It's nothing new, especially in comics with lazy artists and deadlines to meet.

>>15750692
Isn't there preview art of a VF-1 in battroid mode and it has the articulation joints from a toy?

>>15751571
Found it. https://twitter.com/vf5ss/status/756451496967958528

>>15749931
Because of the way it is being published, look at your own image. This was only published in the web format, not the print format, the OPM chapter where it was all colored scene showing the robot coming, was also only done in the webcomic.

Its not a question about cape comics or not, the american way of publishing allows SINGLE issues to be 23 pages long mostly (without ads). Now most of manga are being published in magazines (which rarely give the publisher any profit, but give them exposure).

Stop being idiot, there are ways and ways of publishing stories.

>>15750618
No, it feels like one of those action movies that tried to copy the Bourne action movie editing style of super close up shaky cam obscuring all the action sequences

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>>15751983
Or maybe you and the big two stop being fucking idiots, you retarded dingbat. their way of publishing stories is simply shit

who wants to fucking pay 4 bucks for 24 pages of unreadable shit with obnoxious ads. thats why all the comics sold in one year from the big 2 combined is still dwarfed by a single tankobon sale of One Piece.

>>15751571
what I mean is buy a vf-1 toy themselves and pose it and take pics of it and trace over it, instead of using pics on the internet

>>15743228
Risa Heisei

>>15743687
In Robotech they literally changed the name of the Macross to just "Super Dimension Fortress 1" you fucking retard

>>15752486
We agree that if feels like shit, though.

I hope this series gets far enough to show what the Zentradi look like. I wanna see edgy redesigns of the SDF Zentradis with the same disgruntled and bitchy face the human characters have.

>>15749166
>Comics and manga are both different things right down to panelling, flow and style for the most part. But you'd have to have read more than one thing of both to understand this.
That's interesting, considering Japanese artists and readers don't feel this way.

>>15752851
You don't understand. Harmony Gold is very slowly trying to distance itself from SDF Macross so that they can create a full, fresh new Robotech franchise without the limitations Japan would place on it.

>>15748882
Huh? But this conveys its story really well, it feels like I'm watching a play. Note also how the colors aren't clashing with each other.

>>15755619
>You don't understand. Harmony Gold is very slowly trying to distance itself from SDF Macross so that they can create a full, fresh new Robotech franchise without the limitations Japan would place on it.


You don't distance yourself from SDF Macross by fucking doing a comic about SDF Macross. What you say would be true if Harmony Shit had thrown in the wastebasket SDF Macross and gone full ahead with Southern Cross and Mospeada. But they don't want that and why ? Because the few fans they have left only care about one thing. Can you guess what it is ? Let me help you, it starts with SDF and ends with Macross. Harmony Shit will never ever let go of SDF Macross.

>>15747532
>Tezuka, Matsumoto, Nagai
>How dare you say the average /m/an's taste in comic books is shit.

Are you trying to be ironic or what?

>>15747532
>Not mentioning Yokoyama

>>15757075
He sucks. But then, so does the rest.

>>15756781
>hurr durr the foundation of modern Japanese manga is garbage
Aren't you edgy and cool.

>>15757075
Imagawa threads =/= Yokoyama threads

>>15749179
Bullshit. Robotech aired in the same block as Gigantor.

>>15757174
>the foundation of modern Japanese manga is garbage
They are, why do you think 95% of Manga is downright awful?

>>15743286
bridge bunnies

>>15758271
Because you only read the awful manga.

>>15744432
russian brah

>>15759516
Because that's the only thing people recommend all the time.

>>15749286
FUCKING ESCORT MISSIONS

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east or west, no matter what continuity
Lynn min may A FUCKING SHIT
>40 dollars

>>15743206
>Brian Wood
This is probably his worst work by far. He's typically a good writer, I'm not sure what the fuck happened here.

>>15747312
Please, /co/'s taste in media is as garbage as it gets. They lap up their garbage toons and they lap up their garbage comics and sperg out if you even imply you prefer their japanese counterparts out of inferiority complex.

>>15743306

>transforming jet fighter crashes into the ground while aliens are invading

>yell at pilot with baseball bat

>>15743237
Wtf.

Why is minmay such a fucking ugly chink?

Wasn't Minmay supposed to be super cute?

>>15759711
Probably used an ugly chink as the photo reference.

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>>15759638
Can you blame them? The only /co/ content that isn't complete garbage is european indie comics.

>>15759711
At least she's still a chink so they tried little bit

>>15757174
>>foundation of modern Japanese manga
>Lazy Matsumoto

If it was not for Yamato, he would forever be a talentless nobody.

>>15759711
>Wtf.Why is minmay such a fucking ugly chink?>Wasn't Minmay supposed to be super cute?


All the characters in this manga look like shit and nothing like the originals. Because Harmony Shit can't reuse those originals designs for anything.
That of course doesn't excuse the fact that they're cheapskates and can't hire a fucking decent artist that can design nice new characters. It's not necessary to have them resemble the originals, but c'mon the characters in this comic look like they've been fished from a toxic wastedump.

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>>15760024
well, what can you do, they cannot find a decent artist that can create a good mixture of realistic drawings and manga style art.

and because the original characters designs are anime as fuck (I mean, just look at Fokker's hair), they are cringey shit when done in realistic artstyle.

I mean just look at their pathetic attempts at manga.

>>15759742
I am still quite salty about Regular Show

>>15743237
Holy fuck. This was supposed to be a chinese restaurant. Why is Mynmei wearing an abomination and not a Qipao?

>>15749614

Geez, that villain's martial art is really queer.