is Evangelion worth it? I don't have much spare time to

>>15737091

Nigga, you got cancer?

You gettin deployed to Syria tomorrow?

You've got enough free time to watch an Indonesian sock puppet show

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People will tell you yes!
People will tell you no!
Make the decision for yourself!

>>15737091
wether you end up liking it or not , it´s one of the anime that everyone should have watched , just as a reference

It showed a lot of promise but was ultimately a waste of time in my experience (tv series + EoE + manga).
Make your own decisions, though.

>>15737091
what year were you born and how much anime have you watched my nigger?

>>15737091
I'd say it is.
Even if you don't really like it, it can still be appreciated as an important part of the mecha genre and anime as a whole.

>>15737091
Whether you end up loving it or hating it it's worth watching so you can join in on the eternal bitching about it.

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>>15737168
>Eva
>mecha

>>15737109
No it's not.

>>15737096
You will not find any better advice in this thread.

>>15737109
Stop saying that, it's not.

>>15737091
I dunno, watch it and make your own opinion about it, just know that there are much better anime series out there.
Personally, I didn't like it.

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Watch it, but make sure you watch the end of evangelion otherwise your not seeing the whole thing. The rebuild movie are hot trash and not worth investing time in unless you just wanna fast forward and watch the fights.

>>15737383
>there are much better anime series out there
Name just one.

>>15737438
Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam

>>15737091
The best part about Eva is that no two people will view it the same way.
I mean its hot dogshit, yes, but it's successful hot dogshit that, for better or worse, can appeal to many different kinds of people depending on how you look at it.

It's worth a watch just to see if you like it or hate it.

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>>15737470
Damn...

>>15737438
Legend of the Galactic Heroes

>>15737477
It's not hot dogshit, fuck you

>>15737686
Agree, It's bullshit

>>15737438
Space Runaway Ideon

>>15737853
Not gonna watch it because jewfros look retarded.

>>15737860
Wow
Your comment is retarded, you won't watch an anime because the character's design looks a bit silly ?
Your loss

Yes. It's one of the most important anime ever made. And one of the best too.

Its the epitome of anime

>>15737853
Funny that you mention that, since evangelion is a remake of Ideon.

>>15737921
How ?

>>15737884
Not him, but people used the same excuse as reason to not watch Gundam SEED, or anything Hirai worked on.
I personally avoided Gundam 0079 for a long time because of how Amuro looked.

>>15737091
Just watch it for yourself, no need to ask here. A lot of peeps on here hate it, might as well go to Evageeks and ask them the same and be totally surprised when they tell you "Oh yeah you really should watch it!!!".

>>15737109
No not really.

Why force yourself to watch something you hate? Just so you can have some fucking unverifyable, worthless E-Cred?

I watched Evangelion a pretty long time ago, just the series, but I recently started rewatching it and will do it entirely this time but I'm liking it a lot so what other giant robot stuff would you recommend? Patlabor is the franchise I was probably going to go to next but I want to see if there's any that might be more similar to Evangelion.

I also watched at least part of Giant Robo but don't remember if I finished it. I'm pretty ignorant of anything else outside of Gundam and Macross but those are just by name and I never really watched them.

I watch it for the gurls

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>>15737091
Yes.

>>15737973
The only good show that Hirai worked on is Dancouga

>>15738153
>unverifyable

C'mon...

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>>15737188
Despite the fact that they're organic, EVA as a show is still mecha, quit acting like it's not

>>15738492
I should of said useless. Point still stands.

>>15737091
You have got to be retarded if you don't think a series that shifted super robot into character drama, told the wild story of an independent production, and completely changed how robot anime was marketted isn't worth your time.

>>15737091
I thought it was pretty awesome the first time I saw it. I remember it was the Christmas that Ocarina of Time came out.

>>15737091
I got a fuck load of free time and not much to fill it with. Is Godannar worth it?

>>15737435
>Watch it, but make sure you watch the end of evangelion otherwise your not seeing the whole thing.
That's objectively false. The series was made on its own and EoE was a rush job done in 6-8 months to appease cry baby fans that were sending Anno death threats because they didn't like the ending. This is why EoE is pretty to look at but it's a mess overall.

>>15738610
EoE is based off what 25 & 26 would've been if they still had money

Yes, It has more than enough interesting scenes and content sprinkled in there to justify the time invested.
The Rebuilt movies really aren't though.

>>15738610
There are countless statements that the TV series ending was influenced greatly by production issues. Many ideas from EoE were conceptualized before violent fan reaction to the TV ending. You can watch just the TV series, sure. But you are only getting part of a complete picture.

>>15737091
Yes, simply for the historical value it has in the medium, genre, and culture. Evangelion is, if nothing else, interesting.

>>15738806
Anno, pls

>>15738497
It has nothing to do with the fact that they're organic (robots can be organic you fucktard), it has everything to do with the show being about muh mental state and muh angst. While I appreciated the EVA's designs, their use in the show was extremely limited and Shinji's character as a whole is reactionary ultimately pointless.

>>15738588
There has always been character drama in mecha, be it real robot or super robot.

>>15737860
>>15737973
Or just admit it, ya'll a bunch of racists who can't tolerate fictional characters who look different from you.

>>15739237
I'm black...

>>15739284
black people can be fictionalist too

>>15738768
>>15738780
That's a load of literal horse shit. Anno finished the story and people got mad there was such an abrupt ending. If a movie were always planned or conceptualized beforehand it would have been announced immediately not until about a month after negative reception from the public. To insinuate the budget was limited in the run of Eva is madness not to mention unfounded considering that show had a pretty consistently high budget that only improved as the show exploded in popularity.

I don't care if Anno has said in recent years he always planned to make EoE because he's admitted to changing what the meaning of his visuals mean every few years, and in older interviews he has admitted that it was all due to pressure from fans and executives to make a movie where as in new interviews he has made such audacious claims as he always planned to make the rebuild films.

>>15739432
It wasn't always planned. It might have been what they initially wanted to do with the series but weren't able to because of the budget limitations, but they did it after they were able to secure the money to do it. You can tell the budget was fairly low because the animation quality. I'm sure there was some mismanagement of the money involved too though but in either case money was an issue.

>in older interviews he has admitted that it was all due to pressure from fans and executives to make a movie
And these pressures came from people not satisfied with the ending of the show, which was partially influenced by not having enough money.

>>15737091
Do you like brooding?

>>15738604
It's fun

>>15738911
Shit, you're actually right on this one. I still think Eva is worth watching.

>>15739432
>That's a load of literal horse shit. Anno finished the story and people got mad there was such an abrupt ending. If a movie were always planned or conceptualized beforehand it would have been announced immediately not until about a month after negative reception from the public.
Hold on, when I watched Eva the "next episode" segment for ep 23 had some Eva 02 animation from the movie.

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>>15739432
Episode 24 next ep preview showed storyboards of the MP Eva battle, Ritsuko getting BTFO, Misato kissing Shinji.

>>15737091
To be honest not really.

It ends up becoming a timesink because you will start reading wikis and side materials to try to fill in information the show doesn't give you, when in actuality it just doesn't exist. It's not really a well thought out production; it's all flash and edge and no substance. If anything, it was a "revolutionary" deconstruction precisely because of that reason.

Would you like a better show as a recommendation? Go for GunBuster and its sequel DieBuster. Both short, concise, very well animated, touching and inspiring. Or if you've seen that, watch Kotetsushin Jeeg.

>>15741730
I watched a scene of Gunbuster on Youtube earlier to see if I might like it and it looked like some of the most stereotypical anime stuff I've ever seen with the Power Rangers combining bullshit and yelling out attack names. It did look well animated though.

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>attack on otaku
>shinji is me
>I'm so messed up
>everything is about me me me me
>character study
>bla bla bla
Anno says something different every time he's asked about Evangelion like he can't make up his mind.

>>15737547
That's not a good anime nor a better one.

>>15741749
They only animated literally one stereotypical gattai scene. There's another episode where they separate and gattai again but it doesn't have a crazy "stock footage" sequence.

Consider this: it's only "stereotypical anime stuff" to you, in this day and age, because it's one of the first anime to put that to the screen.

>>15741774
>Implying Eva is good either

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>Not playing the Evangelion of jRPGs

>>15741774
>attack on otaku
He can't help himself with his self-hate otaku complex. He sees himself in all his fans and he hates it that he is responsible for their behavior.

>>15739432
How uninformed can you be?

>>15737091
Manga is better.

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>>15741898
+ Kaji backstory
+ Kaji BTFOing Shinji
+ Pilots personalities somewhat less obnoxious
--- WAS IT ALL A DREAM? reset ending

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>>15741923

>>15741749
>>15741779
>>15741730
Gunbuster is great, Diebuster is good, and the combination of the two watched in sequence is possibly the greatest anime experience of all time. Comparing the payoff those to Eva isn't even in the same fucking galaxy.

>>15741923
>WAS IT ALL A DREAM? reset ending
That was pretty unsatisfying but still better than EoE imo. Ironically, I remember making a thread on /a/ about that ending only to have some /pol/ack start shitting it up.

>>15741923
>>15741932
How the fuck was it an it was just a dream ending?
The mass produced evas were still there. It was basically time cycles confirmed ending.

>>15737383
It is though

>>15741942
>The combination of the two watched in sequence is possibly the greatest anime experience of all time.

I'm crying here anon stahp pls x'D

>>15741812
2nd disc tho

>>15742052
I should have said as far as GAINAX shows go but you're still a cock munching bag of dicks.

>>15742075
Whatever floats your tiny boat anon, nobody takes your taste seriously anyways

When you think about it, the characteristics and character's motivation in EVA were really "in your face", you have 30 min of some characters going "am I alive" "am I real" "I exist, I don't, I exist, I don't".
I mean, they could have let us discover that by ourselves, but no, they had to spend 30 min showing us the inside of every main character's mind to show us the "struggle" they're going throug.
I had to pause every time something like that happened because I almost fell asleep.

>>15742166
Apart from Shinji, we had no clue about Misato or Asuka until the latter half of the series, I disagree with this

>>15742112
Big talk coming from someone unironically posting in an Eva thread.

>>15742248
It's almost entertaining how much people like you hate this great franchise. Why? Because it tried something different? Or because it's widely recognized unlike whatever /m/ related show you like? Acting like this makes the stuff you like look like a niche, not the mainstream, it keeps people AWAY. Anyway, Gunbuster is just Eva in its infancy, deal with it.

>>15742304
>something different
And what might that thing be ?

>>15742304
Eva somehow had shittier and less realistic characters than Gunbuster. It was also just a shittier Zeta Gundam in general.

>>15742323
Watch the show to find out you fucking moron. You're either trolling or extremely stupid

>>15742371
I'm neither, I watched the show.
And I don't understand, why are you getting angry about it ?

>>15742369
Are Zeta and Eva even comparable? In terms of theme, setting and pretty much everything they are pretty different.

>>15742166
People already complain about EoE not spelling everything out for the audience and you want the show to do it even more?

>>15743199
I was talking about the characters' intentions, if we're talking about some of the story elements in EoE, then I have to agree about that statement.

>>15742304
>Anyway, Gunbuster is just Eva in its infancy, deal with it.
Literally how? Only the directors are the same.

>>15737091
You'd have more spare time if you didn't shitpost on 4chan. We all would.

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>>15737091
>>15737096
This to be absolutly honest, senpai.
Just know it's more a character drama than it is /m/ anime. Keep that in mind as you watch it.

Your journey should start in the original series, obviously.
When you finish episode 24, you have two options; either watch 25 and 26 and then watch EoE, or watch EoE and then 25 and 26.
After that, feel free to do whatever you want with the ReBuilds, though I'd personally say to give some time inbetween watching EoE and rebuilds just to let it sink in a little. Just make sure you temper those expectations for rebuilds.

>>15742380
Eva has borrows a lot of themes and characterization from UC though I don't know why that anon chose Zeta in particular.

>>15745554
I do agree on that, just found Zeta specifically to be an odd choice. I get that /m/ loves Zeta and it did a lot to mecha, but it didn't do every single thing.

>>15745554
Because Zeta is an /m/ meme. Ignore it unless they have actual points they wish to discuss in a civil manner.

>>15737091
Asking any board on 4chan if you should watch Eva is the worst thing you could probably ask. Do what >>15737096 said and figure out for yourself if it's worth it.

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>>15737253
>>15737383
>>15738153
Saying its not is retarded. It has zero to do with it being good or something most people will like and all about how it was the catalyst to why anime is the way it is today. It made original tv anime a thing and pushed the idea of what anime could be. Before it everything was either manga adaptations or OVA that were original but short and not as fleshed out.

Without evangelion we would have never gotten shit like Cowboy Bebop or Lain or Utena simply because Eva was popular and proved original shit could sell and was worth the risk.

So yes if you're a fan of anime then you're doing yourself a disservice not watching it just because of what the other anon said, it's a reference point. It has nothing to do with personal taste and all about understanding the history of the medium.

>>15737091
Yeah make sure you watch the director's cuts of the episodes that have them and remember that End of EVA is happening at the same time as EP 25 and 26. Also Rebuild is a sequel

>>15745537
I don't like how people say you should watch EoE before the last two episodes. The last two episodes were made with everyone knowing they were continuing the anime in a movie form. So it's obviously intended as the end of the tv series. Watching it out of order seems like it'd take you out of the flow of the tv show and how it was progressing. It's not like watching both endings will make much sense on the first watch anyway, at least not the details.

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>>15737973
Amuro is his cutest in 0079 though

>>15745881
This.

I actually think the TV ending greatly helps expand EOE.

I lot of character motivations and psychology get spelled out for you. It's quite useful for characters who had tidbits dropped, but were rather vague.

>>15745881
>>15745899
It's also pretty dumb since episode 25 and 26 let you know exactly when they're happening in EoE

>>15745881
Depends on how you understand things I guess. there's a strange sense of mystery I get when I do it, and a greater sense of understanding after I watch the last tv episodes.

>>15745899
>>15745909
The fact that people act like its bullshit and the creators not knowing how to deal with the "budget" issues is next level retardation. I've heard people say to skip it entirely and just watch EoE.

>>15745914
That's so dumb

>>15745914
Fuck no, don't do this.
Budget may have been an issue, but that shit is all character development.

>>15745933
Budget wasn't the issue as much as production falling apart because they had to completely scrap an episode after almost finishing it because it was too similar to a terrorist attack and had to change time slots. That put production way behind.

>>15745938
Forgot about this. Reminds me of how MGS2 sorta had to do the same thing since it apparently had something happen to the twin towers, and then 9/11 happened.

>>15745949
Arsenal Gear was supposed to mow down the Twin Towers, iirc.

>>15745949
>>15745966
Arsenal Gear makes landfall in New York and takes out a good deal of the city. This still happens in the game but it's just not shown on screen but was apparently going to be before 9/11 happened. In the game now you just get it approaching New York and then it cuts to it being in front of Federal Hall.

Apparently the American flags in front of the courthouse were also taken out because of 9/11 but that doesn't make much sense. There was also supposed to be a part where after Raiden kills Solidus he cuts down one of the flag poles and the flag drapes over Solidus' corpse, but this was also cut.

Some stuff was cut from GTAIII too and one of the episodes of Cowboy Bebop was initially skipped because it involved a terrorist attack. It's interesting how this kind of thing affects different entertainment mediums.

>>15745974
It really is. It throws a wrench in plans but it can't be helped.
A lot of natural disasters, too. This is a common one, but FF14 ARR was to have a Trial boss fight with Leviathan, who makes tidal waves. And than that Tsunami hit Japan and it was pushed back.

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>>15745873
Nigga, like 90% of mecha made in the '70s and '80s were original anime. It's not like OVAs weren't adaptations on a regular basis, either. Literally all Eva did was invent the Rei clone.

>>15745984
They were and sure they were big but it didn't affect anime to the point that everyone was trying to make original series except maybe with in the scope of mecha. Eva took it a step further and pushed the original anime thing past mecha.

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Where was HE in Evangelion? I mist have missed the episode where Asuka gets raped.

>>15745984
Rei is just a Chirico clone so it didn't even do that

>>15745984
Rei is just a shittier Four Murasame

>>15746193
The Zeta circlejerk is strong, how are they even remotely similar?

>>15746230
Use your brain and tell me.

>>15746233
You made the statement so back it up. They aren't similar at all

>>15746233
Well, they have the experiment subject mind-controlled by the bad guys thing though the significance of this plot point to the overall theme of both series is different.
Other than that they have nothing in common.

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What did they mean by this?

>>15751329
Asuka feels strongly about preserving the environment and doesn't feel that the Japanese people don't put as much effort into doing so as the German people, and they end up spending the afternoon picking up trash and recycle.

>>15751329
They meant that they were living in the 1990s when such a statement might make sense

>>15751361
taking care of the planet you live on is always a good message

>>15751381
this desu
tho that seems a little too heavy handed.

>>15751381
I meant the bit referencing German cities being cleaner than Japanese cities. No way that's true these days

>>15737091
>i don't want to waste my time
But you are wasting mine

>>15737091
It's only 26 episodes just give it a shot. The show itself is so polarizing and prone to shitposting from both sides you can't really rely on anyone's opinion here anyway.

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Did anyone else play this?

>>15751406
>>15751411
City Shrouded In Awkward Small Talk
Thrill as you engage in uncomfortable conversations with the characters from your favorite tv shows!

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Should have been an option during this event. What a letdown.

>>15751445
An option to do what? Hit her with a brick?
I agree, missed opportunity. Not enough VNs let you be an asshole to love interests unless you're a rapist

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>>15751451

>>15737091
Don't watch it unless you like boring pretentious anime with unlikable whiney numale cucks for main characters

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>>15753004
>numale
>made in '94/'95
>
>Having emotional and mental conflicts is 'numale'

>>15755162
Well, the show itself is probably paraded around by numales so they can pretend to watch anime and insult everything else about the medium.

>>15755206
That's a rather pessimistic view.
You come up with that view here or outside of here?

>>15753004
>numale

Is this the hot new phrase to replace "cuck" because people started making fun of you for using that?

>>15737091
If you don't have a lot of spare time, then no, it's not. It's better when you're a teenager and Shinji's problems are more likely to feel like big problems.

>>15755273
I mean, you can still be in your 20's and 30's and still relate.
Anno was pretty much projecting his problems onto Shinji, so it's not even age specific.

>>15755273
They are big problems, though.

>>15737095
I mean, if he has cancer, he's probably going to be laying around in bed a lot anyway.

>>15755308
>>15755309

It's not that they're small problems, but I went through worse shit as a kid than he did. Lots of kids did. His peers don't make fun of him. He's not chemically imbalanced. He never sees his dad and his mom is dead, but his parents didn't go through a messy breakup that he was there to watch. His guardians don't verbally or physically abuse him, although at NERV they certainly emotionally abuse him. He's nowhere near as whiny as detractors usually make him out to be, but he could also have it a lot worse than defenders sometimes make his situation out to be.

>>15755480
Right after his first battle he was beat up by someone at his school for it. The people at Nerv weren't abusive but they were pretty cold. And this is after around a decade of whatever he's gone through without his dad. Asuka is off and on about how she feels about him but the expression of it is verbally and at points emotionally abusive. Plus the puberty shit on top of this along with living with two women. He's not as bad as he could get but it's still a lot of stuff piled on top of what he's been going through by himself before the show started.

Plus once things actually start the stress of having humanity's survival on your hands and the physical violence against you while you're fighting.

>>15755480
I don't think we're saying he's had it the worst out of anyone in possible existence, but more of simply what he has on top of these problems.

Any person with trauma can, and probably has viewed their problems as the worst problems in the world, even when they obviously aren't.
If this was a normal world, he'd probably just have to get over a couple of emotional and mental hurdles.
They don't verbally or physically abuse him, but the atmosphere he must be surrounded in would likely feel hostile.
They've thrown him into the containment chamber at least twice for having disagreeing thoughts and actions.

What I'm about to also say has likely been discussed to death but still stands to reason:
Their world is kind of on the brink of destruction after a global event happened. I'd expect everyone still alive would be a little bit off their rocker.
>be 14 and live alone with teacher
>dad I've not seen in 14 years says he needs my help
>get told to get in the fucking robot and do the thing or leave
>do thing and get fucked up
>"This is the city you saved, Shinji-kun! But you don't have to pilot if you don't want to... but you probably should. Also humanity is on your shoulders, good luck!"
>Asuka's entirety + hormones
>Dad makes him watch as he remote controls his robot to nearly murder his friend, even went as far to show him crushing the pod
And a lot more. The point is that he might have normal problems, but the setting he's placed in is anything but normal.

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>>15755216
Its a view I developed from a completely different forum called gamefaqs; coincidentally, their Gundam board is riddled with ironic shitposters as well.

>>15755273
>Is this the hot new phrase to replace "cuck"
I distinctly remember numale being around before that word got popular. I know it was used before ASM 2 came out and that released in May of 2014.

I popped into this thread expecting vapid contrarianism from millennials who think they know anime the most because they saw a couple Tomino shows and Votoms and, yep, there it is. Like so many monkeys smearing their shit all over.

>>15755884
You that as if the average Evashitter isn't even more annoying.

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Yes.
But make sure you've got the R2 DVD releases and a good CRT or at least a decent SD screen in 4:3.

>>15755946
I have the region 1 platinum collection which has the fixed animation (apparently the original was shaky or something) and the directors cut episodes and it looked fine on my 1920x1080 TV.

>>15755884
And what are you doing about it ? Complaining ?
Why don't you try giving some arguments ?

>>15756332
Image quality on R2 are superior than any version of on R1.
Also, unless it's an HD remaster (on BD), it's better to watch on SD screens. In fact I prefer R2 DVDs to the BDs.
And yeah the japanese versions include the director's cuts obviously. In fact, the original versions of eps 21-24 are rare in Japan.

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>>15755519
>>15755526
>feel bad for me
>i'm literally shinji
>all these fictional events totally contrast to me as a person
>me me me me me
Except it's all done anime style and not realistic at all if Anno was indeed trying to get it across correctly.

>>15755610

Well, nothing attracts shitposters in droves as Evangelion or Gundam.

>>15751455

Proof that Asuka wants nothing more than Shinji's stick inside her. Man what a hack. They're make for each other, a stupid frigid bitch and delusional gay 16 year old that jacks off to a comatose Asuka. You simply can't dream this stuff up.

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>>15757332
No. She just wants to be loved. All the characters in Eva (including the Angels) are just looking for that human connection. That's the main reason why Shinji fell for Kaworu since he unconditionally loved him, and the reason why he felt attached to Rei because she never pushed him away because her and Kaworu represent unconditional love. In other words, a father and mother, Adam and Eve.

>>15737091
>is Evangelion worth it?
Yes, it's the best anime TV series ever made.

>>15757374
>Yes, it's the best anime TV series ever made.

Not in this reality.

>>15757328
The difference is that most Gundam shitposters have at least watched a few mecha shows.

>>15757389
>The difference is that most Gundam shitposters have at least watched a few mecha shows.

I wouldn't be so sure.

>>15757400
Only because you're one of them yourself.

>>15757309
>all these fictional events totally contrast to me as a person

Yeah because nobody has been a teen or confused as fuck, or been abandoned by their parents and shit like that. Because clinical depression or being suicidal don't exist in the real world.
You don't need to fight giant alien monsters to understand/relate to Shinji(or any of the cast really). Anno was prolly gonna off himself while doing Eva and self-inserted a lot of himself into Shinji.

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>>15757726
Well, he picked a really bad medium to try and get it across because that's not what people watch anime for. Besides, that's not what most people took away from Evangelion.

>prolly gonna off himself
Maybe he should have.

>>15757891
I dunno about others, but I love it because of the themes about depression and all those things, rather than because Muh Christianity symbolism and try to jerk myself off.

To be honest I don't think we should limit mediums to only doing one thing. I think that kills off creativity and interesting concepts. Yeah people watch anime to escape reality, but that doesn't mean every show should be just fluff that makes us go "wow that's cool".

>>15757726
this is bait

>>15757939
How is what I said bait, friend

>>15738817
The themes and narrative don't make it not mecha you massive sperglord

I don't think you need to be reminded that VOTOMS isn't about the mecha either

>>15757931
the problem here is you edgy fags think everything has some deep meaning when is just a fucking cartoon

>>15758070
I never used the word deep though. Yeah it's a cartoon, but it's stupid to write-off something like that.
"It's just a movie man lol". How is it edgy to not look only at the surface of something? The original Gundam is also just a cartoon, but it has themes and messages and all that crap.
I'm not saying that every show is 2deep4u and that you gotta be an intellectual to understand it. But I do find it stupid how any sort of depth is seen as bad.

>>15757389
In my experience, most Gundam hipsters only watched Gundam series and maybe a few other Tomino stuff like Ideon (and just because they heard about the similarities between Ideon and Evangelion, so that they can use Ideon as ammo when shitposting against Evangelion), but aren't familiar with older classic stuff like Mazinger.
Note that I said Gundam hipsters, actual Gundam fans are cool and they usually like Evangelion too.

It's controversial enough that I doubt you'll get bored of it if nothing else.

Watch the original and EoE. Rebuild only if you really, really feel like it.

>>15758088
Just stop

>>15758088
There's nothing wrong with looking deeper into things.
What is wrong though is when you say that something has so much depth even though everything is clear and obvious/ you're just delusional because the writers didn't mean anything with all that sombolism and the show is pretty simple.

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>>15758088
Basically this

>>15758189
Did anyone here say that? I don't think a single person in this thread has said such.
And if you don't think there's any meaning or message in Eva then I'm not sure what to tell you. That's the decision you've come to think is true unless you're simply dismissing it for the sake of being contrarion.
Movies, cartoons, videogames; doesn't matter. Creators will put ambiguous things in their content for the sake of drumming up different understandings.

>>15758187
Good point, I totally see where you're coming from.
>>15758189
I'm not saying that and I don't think anybody in this thread has. There are pretentious faggots who go frame by frame to analyze it I'm sure. But most people think "But it's just a movie/cartoon/game" and in the end we get garbage like the Transformers movies. It's okay to like fun dumb shit, but also nothing wrong with accepting depth in any medium and discussing those things. I think that saying "it's just a whatever, don't think about it too much" is limiting.

>>15758214
holy shit please be bait

>>15758238
I never said that anime can't be anything other than "fun dumb shit", and I know that some media, whatever medium it's from, can have some important messages, that's what made me watch anime in the first place, 0079 and LOGH. I was just talking about Eva.
I accept depth in any medium, it just has to be be written well.

>>15758241
Stop trying to bait people with your non-arguments

>>15758264
Not that anon, but I understand. I also agree with you in some form about some people thinking it's more than it is.
But I personally believe that's fine as long as you aren't trying to force your view of what you think it is on others and allow them to form their own thoughts on it.
I'll admit I'm guillty for doing that at least once.
Now the only thing I tell people is to not expect it to be full on Mecha and that it's more a character drama.

Holy shit, people get triggered so easily when someone says that an anime actually has overall themes and isn't just about robots fighting. It's not even people saying it's deep (though people do, but everyone jumped on this anon even though he wasn't being like these people). The characters in Evangelion do have psychological issues. That isn't saying it's deep, it's a pretty surface level thing that someone should notice and it definitely wasn't put in there by accident. Other mecha anime have themes like war is bad or corporations don't care about people's welfare and it's the same thing but I don't see people getting their panties in a bunch over those shows.

>>15758472
It's also worth mentioning that people connect differently on an emotional level, so something not quite as meaningful to one person could mean a whole lot more to another.
People just like to generalize and think one trait defines an antire group of people, though this is obviously not new information. It's just ignored information.

>>15758509
Even if you don't directly connect to the themes though doesn't mean they aren't there. I would say I'm nothing like Shinji but I can still recognize the bullshit he goes through that causes certain things to happen in the show and movie. People just seem to think that having themes like this makes a show deep (or "deep") and anyone that talks about them is a 2deep4u retard.

>>15758583
Again I don't disagree, but Inbelieve that those 'people' just happen to be the most vocal as with any sort of fan-base discussing something they really like. Nothing new there, though.

>>15758472
who hurt you anon

>>15758625
Not that anon, but my dad did. I'm pretty lonely too.

>>15758472
You must be over 18 to post on 4chan

>>15737091
Do it and form your own opinion senpai

I need someone to answer the most difficult question about EVA for me. One that I've never been close to getting an answer to:

How do the EVA's get to the surface from Central Dogma if the space between it and the the GeoFront and to Tokyo 3 is just empty space?

How do they get up there so fast if there is no actual railing or chutes connecting to Tokyo three from the GeoFront? Think about it.

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>>15761889
What the fuck ?

>>15746105
ok, source?

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>>15761889

>>15761967
>>15762271
Exactly. Maybe it truly is unanswerable.

>>15762536
Maybe it's just too deep, maybe it's deconstructing silly old super robot shows

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>>15762572
True, but it's still a point worth noting! Not even in the rebuilds do they fix this.

>>15762586
I always just thought it was along one of the walls

>>15762660
but dogma is not connected to the walls is it? and even then it would be going up a dome.

>>15762762
And it would take too long to reach the surface

>>15738817
So then One Punch Man is just a comedy and not at all a superhero anime?

>>15762762
Central Dogma is more then just the Pyramid. We see that the pool beside the Pyramid is connected to the EVA testing centre in Central Dogma. Actually doesn't one episode show you exactly where the EVA launching site is located? It's where the Angel breaks into CD.

>>15763631
No, we only see the launching pad and the end where they come out, never the inbetweens.

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>>15737091
The anime and EOE?

Nope.

The Manga?

Solid stuff.

>>15737091
Yes. Fucking do it senpai

>>15738817
So every UC Gundam(dunno how non-UC stuff is) is either a mecha show or a war drama, can't be both? Even if both in the original and Zeta there were a good amount of episodes for Amuro's and Kamille's "muh mental state" and "muh angst". A show can be more than one genre.

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>>15765206
>Eva manga

Animated manga EoE when?

>>15737091

Yes. If you're depressed, it'll change your life.

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>curse of eva
Why did Anno do that? What was he thinking?

>>15765553
Also if your 12 or have the mental capacity of a child around that age.

>>15765206
The manga was much better than the anime and improved a lot over Anno's autism.

>>15765588
>Also if your 12 or have the mental capacity of a child around that age.
reddit tier response to disagreeing with somebody. You can do better /m/

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>>15765612
That was in response to the "it'll change your life" part.

>>15765553
Anon, are you serious ?

>>15765635
Who is the one at the center?

>>15745873
How can someone be this retarded?

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>>15765870
Mana.

She's the true best girl.

>>15765881
>I don't actually understand what Anno meant by this

>>15737091

Watch the first episode and if you want to watch the second episode then watch the second episode and repeat as needed.

>>15765981
this desu

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>>15765635
>that text
What the fuck?
>>15765912
Agreed. Sad that younger fans don't even know who she is anymore.

>>15766677
She looks like mari without the glasses and shorter hair desu
Also this series doesn't need anymore female characters or more characters in genera god damn it.

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>>15767038
I think the only similar thing Mana shares with Mari is the hair color, maybe.
Mana is like a mix of Rei and Asuka.
The original glasses girl is Mayumi.

>>15737091
People who will tell you that NGE isnt mecha dont understand that mecha doesnt mean MSG. People who will tell you that EoE isnt one of the most impressive movies in the medium simply dislike the ambigious ending (which at least is a fair point, I seriously home that they wont unironically critcise any other part). EVA is something every mecha fan should have watched becuase there are plenty of other shows that take inspiration from it, such as RahXephon and the hands down best mecha IP in existence in form of Fafner. However, you should be prepared for the second half of NGE to be a production value nightmare.

>>15742304
>Gunbuster is just Eva in its infancy
I hope with infancy you mean its EVA if everything went wrong.

>>15765881
As expected of "The Master" Anno Hideaki

>>15767622
>People who will tell you that EoE isnt one of the most impressive movies in the medium.

Thats one thing that dosnt get talked about enough. Even if you ignore the story, EoE has some amazing cinematography and shots. All the shots of angle rei in space are fucking fantastic. An the whole kom susser tod sequence is one of the best scenes in cinematic history imo. There was also a bit on the english commentary track about the part just after the music where a bunch of answering machine responses play. They said it was one of the hardest things they've ever had to do in terms on sound leveling and editing. A lot went into that movie just from a technical stand point, and I dont think its gets enough credit for it.

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>>15737091

>>15770625
what is this even

>>15770625
>gif

>>15761889
I can't actually think of anything what the fuck. There literally is no inbetween

>>15746105
Xpearse can you die already? Thanks.

>>15737091
It's alright. Lots of different ways you can take watching it. Doesn't take long to do either, just depends on how you watch it.

>>15745873
Hi Digibro. Didn't know you liked preaching your shit here.