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So, we all know that Gundam is the "War ain't noth

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So, we all know that Gundam is the "War ain't nothin' but a heart ache" of anime, but what is the most Anti-War gundam out there? I mean in terms of showing how horrifying and generally unpleasant it is?

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Thunderbolt's first season is up there even with the mentally unstable MC and the gratituous mecha porn.
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>>15719983

None of them are horrifying or unpleasant.

They fights are all cool as FUCK

Even War in the Pocket still glorifies war, despite the hamfisted attempt at a antiwar ending.
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>>15719983
War in the Pocket is in my opinion the one who best present an anti-war message. Kid who thinks that wars is cool and stuff learns in the hard way about how it is to lose someone you like in a totally futile fight.
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>>15719983
I'd place my bets on Victory
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>>15720032
That seems like a good bet
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>>15719983
Stargazer.
The fact that the main Gundam of the OVA isn't even a war machine but rather a tool for exploration is one of the simplest yet greatest things that OVA did.
The message of Gundam is always about how war is bad, yet the gimmick that pulls the viewers in are the titular mecha which are war machines.
Stargazers flips that around by making the Gundam a symbol and achievement of human advancement rather than our faults.
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>>15719983
F91 and 0080, are the ones that get closer to that

remember lady carrying a baby being killed by a spent shell of a guntanky thing?
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>>15720149
Literally the only good thing to come out of SEED Destiny
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