By the most accurate estimates, Klan Klein is 12.5 - 13 meters

>>15719698
A little less autism-inducing element that causes posts like this

Screencapped

>>15719698
I don't know my Macross very well but that can't be her actual face right? Just a shop? Right?

>>15719785
contrary to fanarts and hentai doujin, Klan actually has man-ish face.

thats why her loli form a best.

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>>15719698
Yeah, 'cept if we take Nene's tits in this pic as an example of big "human" tits, Klan's tits have only ~8 times more volume, which means she could produce only about 8 litres of milk per day

>>15719830
I don't understand what you are trying to say.

You do know that Nene is in macronized form here, right? And that she is farther from the camera?

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>>15719906
Shit, I've thought that on the pic she is closer to the camera and is normal sized, though now I see it. I haven't actually watched Frontier so I was just assuming things

Kudos to OP for actually sourcing

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I want Klan to be my gf

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>>15719923
Here's a rare side-by-side comparison. Keep in mind that proportions do vary in Frontier, and the best way to do it accurately is science.

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I want a giant girlfriend who I can princess carry with my mech and make her blush

>>15719698
She's a big girl

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>>15719698
I love me some /m/ath.

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>>15720105
Then go fighting together while protecting your half-breed daughter?

Though the shopping expenses for both Macro- and Miclonized forms of both he mother and daughter would be very costly.

>>15720105
That is adorable.

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>>15720105
>>15720132
I love this guys art.

>>15719698
>What would you like to see in the next Macross, /m/?
Meltrandi milk farms.

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>>15720047
>tfw you'll never walk in on her changing
>tfw she wont mind

>>15719698
What the fuck is wrong with you

>>15720271
Gotcha friendo.

Science Trigger Warning: the height of Klan Klein is not accurate in this picture. It should in no way be taken as a primary source for any possible milk production limit of Meltrandi genomes. She is at least three times too tall for that. I'm sorry and deeply ashamed it can't be made more realist than that, but it should be taken as an artist interpretation and nothing else.

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>>15719698
Was this the sequel 8 years in the making

>>15720415
>Michael died for this

>>15720415
>milk farm

yes

>pregnant

YES

>amputee

NO

I damn near got whiplash from how fast that went from hot to not.

>>15719923
You're just blind, that's all

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>>15720415
>amputee

>>15720415
What the hell did you do to my waifu you nigger

>>15720132
How does an intergalactic pregnancy work for a Meltrandi?

Does she have to stay Macro the whole time she's pregnant? Will the baby inside micronize with her when she changes or will it be some bodyhorror blood show if she tries?

>>15721262
That's a good question to ask Kawamori.

I'm extremely lactose intolerant and I hate this thread.

>>15721262
They probably have to stay micro or macro the whole time. The process involves making a clone, hence the name, so it'd probably fuck it up.

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>>15721269
ching chong ping pong

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>>15721269
Poor you. Milk is the greatest.

Is there any series, /m/echa or otherwise, where the main heroine is bigger than the MC?

>>15721301

Shadow Skill, not /m/ though

>>15719698
For the love of god, shut up and stop inserting your shitty fetishes into things.

>>15721269
I'm sorry you're a nigger.

>>15721301
Betterman, FLCL, Evangelion, Fullmetal Alchemist, Gaiking: LODM, Giant Robo, Majestic Prince, Heroman, Victory Gundam, Vandread.

Can't think of anything else I've seen that fits the bill.

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>>15719698
how deep is her vagina OP?
i want to take a nap in it

>>15721657
The average vagina is somewhere between 4 and 7 inches deep when unaroused, elongating when aroused due to blood flow forcing the uterus upward. If Klan is 7 times the height of a human woman, her vagina is also seven times as deep, raising her to somewhere between two and a half to four feet deep when unaroused. She may be able to fit most of your body depth-wise as long as she remains aroused and you're not exceptionally tall.

Width-wise, however, there are other issues. Klan's vagina also comfortably stretches to seven times the width of a human vagina, which means she can fit an object of roughly fourteen inches in width into her vagina assuming she's accustomed to large insertions. Your shoulders and hips are likely wider than this, so while you may be able to fit, it would be very uncomfortable for her.

tl;dr: She's big, but she's not THAT big.

>>15721301
Witch Craft Works
Negima
Ah My Goddess
Accel World - Debatable; as that's how he sees himself vs how others see him.
Lovely Complex
Freezing (And other works by said mangaka as he has a major onee-san complex)
Super-Dreadnought Girl 4946 - A giantess that wouldn't be out of place in Macross falls for the MC.
Claymore

>>15721721
So much for that one doujin with macronized Sheryl & Alto/Ranka dildo/buttplug

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Settle your punk as down, its time for some lilith.

>>15719698
>Today I went on the internet and found this!

>>15721262

Pretty sure she has to stay micro the whole time, from conception to birth. Requires planning ahead, meaning no surprise pregnancies, which is a plus.

>>15721301
On top of the already mentioned ones, there's always Gundam 00 and REIDEEN.

On a less joking note, Xabungle. And I seem to remember the female lead in Gakusaver being slightly taller than the male lead.

>>15721296
Is their even a lewder drink than milk?

I'm glad she got a happy ending in the movie retelling.

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>>15721899
Do you mean this one?

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>>15719698

HNNNNG GON' STRANGLE THAT KLAN KLEIN!

>>15719698
Doing a good work here anon, I'm proud of you.

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>>15721923
Serious studies has put the height of Giant Naked Rei (hitherto called GNR) at 231 kilometers tall. This is roughly 140000 times the height of an average human woman.

By equivalent reasoning, her breasts have a volume 2.744 * 10^15 times those of an average human female. Unfortunately, those breasts are proportionally quite small, and unlikely to be able to produce more than 0.5 litre/day on a human frame. Still, by those numbers, GNR is able to produce 1372 * 10^12 litres of milk each day, or 1372000000000000 litres per day.

Simple unit conversion gives us 1372 km^3 of milk produced daily. For comparison, the global milk consumption of the world in the year 2016 is at 223 * 10^9 litres (Statistica 2017).

Milking GNR for a day would satiate world hunger for decades. Nonetheless, the technological challenges of milking a woman 231 kilometers tall and keeping seas of milk fresh is better left to the reader.

>>15722261
> the technological challenges of milking a woman 231 kilometers tall and keeping seas of milk fresh is better left to the reader.
When there's a will, there's a way. A relatively cheap way of constantly transporting breast milk down to Earth would be an excellent start, though.

>>15722305
Why not have her lean forward and leave her breasts hanging in the atmosphere at a good acessable height to be milked

>tfw no macronized meltrandi waifu.

>>15722305
>A relatively cheap way of constantly transporting breast milk down to Earth
It could really just rain down if she stands at the right altitude.

>>15720429
>died

>>15722202
Yes. Laughs were had.

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>>15720177
Inui's Meltran has been through quite a few battles and armors; her husband too has gone through different VFs.

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>>15722261
Let's quickly check the maths.

1372 km^3 is roughly a cube with edges 11 kilometers in length. This seems right, as GNR is, after all, 231 kilometers tall.

>>15722323
>>15723547
The massive atmospheric disruption of having GNR standing on earth is a grave issue. Moving, she would impart significant energy to the atmosphere just by aerodynamic heating (M. Mifsud, D. Estruch-Samper, D. MacManus, R. Chaplin, J. Stollery, A case study on the aerodynamic heating of a hypersonic vehicle, The Aeronautical Journal, Volume 116). Immobile, she would disrupt weather at a grand scale akin to a super mountain (Mountain Weather and Climate, Roger G. Barry). I searched but couldn't find studies on the effects of a giant naked woman on earth's climate. In any case, the end result is likely to be absolutely and immediately catastrophic.

As GNR is able to survive in a vacuum, I would propose to take her into orbit around Earth. Unfortunately, she has a non-insignificant gravitational pull and would likely affect both tides and the weather, though in a far lesser way than if she was standing on earth. Milking her in orbit also causes significant technological issues.

>>15719698
>A human woman peaks at milk's production
Was thinking about a serious research.

Such a disappointment, /m/

>>15724536

Why does she keep bringing her kid into combat?

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>>15719698

An unusually high-budget shot of the two of them--what episode was this from again, or was it from one of the movies?

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>>15724912
I think it's from the TV show, after best meltran died.

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>>15719795

I...actually like it. Stays far from moeblob territory, and seems fitting given Megumi Toyoguchi's fairly low-pitched, serious portrayal of her in macronized form.

She's a flying captain in a supposedly notoriously hard-ass private military corporation--I assumed she was always supposed to be fairly masculine. She just happens to be a giant Meltran and, like a decent number of them apparently (?), has a large ass and fantastic rack.

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>>15724929

>best Meltran

Not going to agree, but I can sympathize--them killing her off without so much as a speaking part was a travesty.

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>>15724629

Not OP, but for the sake of argument--what do you think would be an interesting topic of research dealing with (macronized) Klan Klang's dimensions? Normal diet? Environmental footprint? Her literal footprint?

>>15724937
Macro housing must be interesting. It must be sound and quake-proof or everyone on the block would know you're having sex.

>>15724929
How big are her macronized tits?

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>>15724961

Well, on Frontier we knew there was even a Zentradi-friendly shopping mall (even if it wasn't proportional to the massive ones used by the micronized population). Given that the macronized population is probably amenable to space-efficient housing (you get the impression that the younger ones are probably in military service anyway, and farmers would probably live at their places of work), you'd probably see small apartment-style living or even barracks communal living (hardly uncommon in Earth history, and it's possible a lot of Zentran prefer it).

Outside of a specific military, agricultural or industrial vocation that demands it, being able to live macronized on a majority-micronized ship is probably something of a privilege, but we even see a lot of macronized children (including Klan Klang's flashbacks of her own childhood). Maybe even considering Max and Milia's micronized child (which was the first of its kind), it's normal on Frontier for Meltran to give birth macronized, and for the newborns to remain macronized for some time? If that's the case, so long as Zentradi are valuable for the aforementioned roles, there might be motivation to offer as many macronized facilities as economically possible (even as a form of headhunting--"Hey, transfer to the Frontier, it's more comfortable for our kind.") On the other hand, I'm under the impression that even "natural born" Zentradi like Klan Klang and presumably her companions (with her human-looking comrades) still maintain some of their cloned ancestors advantages--including their infamous sturdiness and stamina (Klan Klang would have to in order to survive having VF booster propulsion strapped to her, much less actually fight with it)...

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>>15724983

Cont.

And then there's their longevity (provided they don't die in combat)--immediately we've seen Zentradi who lived hundreds of years even under an austere protoculture-war conditions, and a popular theory as to Max and Milia's divorce in part due to Max's human aging, and Milia's lack thereof. But there's also the theory that the longevity and durability are integral to their true macronized biology, and not their adapted micronized biology--maybe they age faster the more time they spend micronized? That would make Klan Klang's condition particularly ironic, but give a very obvious motivation for Zentrans and Meltrans to remain macronized at least part of their daily lives. It's also believable that micronized Meltrans like Klan Klang lack their superhuman physical abilities even proportionally.

Maybe this even becomes a political issue--the Zentradi have a recent history with a lack of any sort of personal or human rights, they may jealously guard the ones they have now with their integration into Earthling-descended society. Maybe having no macronized facilities at all is seen as unfair or anti-Zentradi? Homes and living spaces, well before malls, would be the most basic part of that, tantamount to the basic rights of housing in human cultures.

Eh, that turned more to the economic and social than architectural. Whoops.

>wild speculation

>>15724996
Except when you're living on spaceships space is at a premium, no pun intended. So the smaller the facilities you need for basic living the more room you have to supplies such as backup parts for when shit breaks, which it will. Which also raises the point of how much more space than what the installed facilities actually take up when the things needed for maitenance are considered as well.

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>>15724970

Huh, if you mean Raramia--in her plugsuit-style combat garb, she looks very flat and slender. A Japanese A or B-Cup. So scale that up to however much taller she is macronized.

>TFW when you're a civvie Zentran and your girlfriend's boss in the military has huge knockers, and you're invited to Pixie Squadron lunch.

>>15725002

So there must be some motivation to keep it up, or the authorities could just say, "No, you only macronize for combat. Suck it up." Much less build a massive (and fairly inefficiently-designed) shopping mall for children and families.

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Did anyone else read OP and suddenly want a spin-off OVA where Klan Klein has a Zentran/Meltran baby Maybe named Michelle or something? That the dad (or maybe her parents or in-laws) raises so she can keep her military career and become a bad-ass combat mom?

I'd watch it.

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>>15724853
No clue; but their daughter a few years later seems to also be dating a mecha pilot.

>>15725075
How long do you think it takes her to stuff all that hair into her helmet?

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>>15724983
>>15724996
I think being macronized is a significant part of Zen/Mel-trandi "culture", and people are significantly averse to being micronized for significant amount of time. This is the simplest, most logical, explanation. They see being macronized as the norm, their natural height - and being micronized as a chore, needed to interact with the smaller races.

A lot of your reasoning hinge on the idea that space is a premium in space (true enough) and that macronization is inefficient, but you should not forget that Zentradi have significant amount of experience about building space ships up to their size. For thousand of years, in fact. Even mind-controlled by the human superweapons called "Japanese idols", they, as a race, have still a significant expectation that everything should be to their size. After all, it is what had been for thousand of years.

Some will accommodate to being micronized for long period of times, but most would probably see it as something unnatural. A concession. Thus happy Zentradi are macronized Zentradi, and there are Zentradi sized zones in Frontier.

>>15725089
She's somehow able to do it in the space of a few seconds offscreen. They just don't show us HOW.

>>15725080
A Destroid pilot; the girl has good taste.

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>>15725171

(Responding to you.) I'm inclined to agree. The irony being that Zentradi mind-control in the form of "culture" (and J-Pop idols) results in Zentran and Meltran who have a deliberate desire to negotiate for their own livelihood (in addition to having their share of the collateral--massive space fleets, engineering and technology, a valuable millennia-old military tradition). Granted, we see so many micronized Zentradi to the point where the desire for that access its plainly obvious (even if you have a genetic defect that turns you into a child), but that must coexist with some either cultural or biological value to their macronized forms (on top of their military value).

The question isn't whether they'd want to or not, but how the UN Spacy/NUN, as a human-led organization (or at least a microne-led one) deals with this versus the disadvantages. Obviously there is at least some value to having Meltran warriors like Klan Klang, or even just normal Zentradi families, laborers, farmers, etc.. My speculative answer was a system of competition, luring Zentradi from other fleets to live and work on Frontier--or otherwise encouraging the existing Zentradi family to actually reproduce--if Klan Klang has, say, a 150 year window to start a family (assuming she still has Zentradi longevity, but at the same time matured at the same speed as childhood friend Michael Blanc), it'd be very easy for her (or any other Zentradi) just to wait until circumstances were more convenient (or even just move whenever her obligation, assuming she had one, to the Frontier fleet ended). So the NUN, or rather the individual fleet commands, political establishments and world governments, compete. So you get a mall and other luxuries, beyond basic living spaces.

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(Cont.)

Your expectation argument rings particularly true if longevity is still relevant--we know Klan Klang is college age, but her parents, for example, could be a century older or more (or they could be the same age as Alto's father). They, and their contemporaries, could represent a population old enough to remember back when everything was to scale, rather than Klan Klang, who likely grew up in a Zentradi-minority population, or at least in a community where lots of things were only accessible when she micronized.

If it's the case that Zentradi longevity is based on their original bodies, and not their micronized adaptations (say if someone with "normal genes", like Nene or Raramia stayed micronized 90% of their daily life, and thus aged at 90% human rate), that would be even more motivation. Micronizing might be convenient, fashionable, etc., but it comes with a health complication. More expectations. Aside from the Zentradi military formations that still exist (but might seem like less ideal, unusual, or even foreign environments even to Klan Klang, who describes the "blood of her warrior ancestors" in her veins), maybe there are UN Spacey fleets that are more amenable to macronized life (and some that are less), excluding abnormal circumstances like when the Frontier had to discard some of its additional living-space vessels.

It's too bad we don't know if Klan Klang's parents are alive, or for that matter living on the Frontier--aside from her two comrades, she isn't shown with other macronzied Zentradi friends and family, though she could certainly still have them.

>>15721269

That doesn't apply to milk of your own species.

>>15721301
Time Bokan 24, via age difference. It's even specifically pointed out in the show itself. Heybot probably also counts, due to recent revelations.

Jesus christ dudes I just wanted to talk about robots

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>>15725268
The advantage of having Zentradi intermingled with human civilization and assimilated to human culture is enough to put any other consideration to rest. Putting aside any military or industrial advantages of 10 meters tall humanoid, it should not be underestimated than one of the primary goal of UN Spacy is the assimilation of Zentradi/Meltrandi race into the human Zeitgeist. The UN Spacy knows that they don't have the military manpower to fight against any big Zentradi insurrection. It is arguable if they have a technological superiority important enough to offset the difference in sheer number, but one of the primary fear of the micronized government is a Zentradi rebellion.

The best way for a quick Zentradi assimilation into human culture is to allow them all the amenities they were expecting for thousand of years, up to their size. Hence the macronized mall. This is true for old generations Zentradi, and likely true (to a lesser degree) for newer generations of Zentradi. It is probable than newer generations of Zentradi have less issues with living micronized amongst humans. It could even be considered fashionable or trending amongst the young. Still, newer generations are still likely to grow in an environment where macronization is the norm, if only because their parents insists for it. Those kind of deep, societal preconceptions are not easy to totally eradicate in a population.

Completely eradicating the natural bias Zentradi have for macronization would likely take several generations born and growing up in a micronized environment. We are starting to see this in the newer Macross, were giantess are becoming more and more rare.

I want to lounge in my Zentradi gf's bellybutton.

>>15722202
I think a thread on this was one the first things I saw when came to this board

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>>15725431

Quite a ways from discussing Klan Klang's righteous, mini-sub sized jugs, huh?

so does she have giant diapers in her pilot suit or

>>15724996
>Maybe having no macronized facilities at all is seen as unfair or anti-Zentradi?
Having your planet bombed and then spending the next fifty years making accommodations for the monsters who did it is unfair.

>>15725726

Well, the solution is easy: don't bother trying to recruit them into your military. They'll certainly find work, you worry about you.

Problem solved.

>>15726156
That's how I want to die.

>>15724930
>like a decent number of them apparently (?), has a large ass and fantastic rack.
The protoculture knew what was up

>>15725380
>don't have the manpower to fight a zentradi rebellion
And I'm sure thats why their VFs are made to be able to fight larger numbers of enemies.
If you can't match one soldier for each of their soldier, you make sure one of your soldier can kill more of their soldiers.

>>15719777
Can we get a copy of that?

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>>15726233

A fine example of sexual dimorphism. Excluding both sides' weird cybernetic officer types, though the Zentradi rank-and-file aren't exactly hideous, it does seem like Meltran are at worst homley and go comfortably into the area of "magazine model".

The problem might be insufficient references for the time period--it does seem to be that, even by Meltran standards, Klan Klang (besides having a somewhat masculine face) is stacked.

Imagine how HAWT her design would be had it been provided by Haruhiko Mikimoto.

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>>15726387
Klan Klang is unusually tall for her race compared to other Meltrans though.

>>15719698
Can part Zentradi get macronized?

>>15726815
Yes. I'm pretty sure humans can get macronized as well, considering Max got into a Queadluun-Rau in DYRL

>>15724996
>a popular theory as to Max and Milia's divorce in part due to Max's human aging, and Milia's lack thereof.


Really? Was that ever mentioned in the shows? I thought they broke up because Milia becoming mayor led to conflict in their professional lives and thus stress in their marriage.

>>15726835
I always found it odd that she became mayor. Like, bitch can't even make a pot of coffee without almost burning down the house, but she gets elected for a civilian job even though civilian as a concept is alien to her?

Also, she has a lifetime of experience in the military, why wasn't she considered for Captain?

>>15726481
Its also entirely possible that Klan comes from a lineage of commander type Zentradi like Britai who are huge even compared to other zentradi though

>>15720415
This pictures makes me want to watch Macross now even though I know nothing anywhere near this level of insanity is gonna be present

>>15724996

> a popular theory as to Max and Milia's divorce in part due to Max's human aging, and Milia's lack thereof.

Putting aside that Max doesn't appear to be aging at a regular human rate anyway why do you even need a theory as to their divorce when the show directly states they split because of divergent and opposing priorities in the professional life? And implies they are getting back together by the end of the show once they have done outside pressure to conflate their priorities.

It may be difficult to do, but I want to fuck Klan.

>>15726815
Emilia is half Zentradi and she was a Maclone.

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>>15726826

DYRL, being in effect a cinematic treatment WITHIN the timeline of historical events (the TV series) is a little suspect, but yeah, Macross 7 gives an example of at least a half-Human Meltran capable of doing it. Unless the Macross 7 movies/OVA occupy a weird place, which I don't think they do.

>>15726835
>>15726883
>>15727450

Just a theory I've heard mentioned repeatedly. It was intended to address the different aging between humans and Zentradi, which we know for a fact is a thing (because we see lots of examples of it), though it may not have particularly defined that relationship. My bad.

>>15727434

Klan Klang's variable height can be problematic (all for the sake of a scene where we can interact with a VF without looking unusually small). Even at her smallest, she's still taller than the original Meltrans, no? To the point where her Queadluun-Rhea (or all of them in Frontier) would need a pretty clear redesign. At her tallest, her Queadluun-Rau would be huge compared to the base model I think. It's pretty easy to explain a small size difference (as simple as "she simply eats much better/is in better health"), though the notion that both her parents are commander types opens up to the fact that she's not unusually tall next to the Macronized population of Frontier (for example, Zentran children, the farmer, etc.). Maybe they're all commander types? Or the gene pool has evened out with a few commander types, and they're all on the larger side?

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>>15727453
we all do, anon.

>>15727453
If D&D can have all sorts of species fuck each other, Zents and Melts shouldn't be too much of a problem.

So here's a question, was the inclusion of giant women included as bait for the giantess fetish, or did people fetishize the Meltrandi despite their inclusion?

>>15725488
Gonna need math on this as well

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>>15727779
A little bit of both, perhaps?

I mean, it';s only natural. Bigger is better. The taller a girl is, the more there is to love.

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>>15727767

The whole time reading this, I can't help but think, "Okay, so he's living in Klan Klang's apartment--he has to macronize, right? At some point? Otherwise it's just a matter of time before he actually slips off a counter or bed and breaks his neck, only after he can't actually use any furniture or appliances."

Autism, etc.

>tfw you realize Klan Klang's gone through a few human boyfriends for this reason

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>>15727767
holy shit i never knew i wanted to be shoved in klan's mouth until now

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>>15727779

As much fun as loli-Klan is for her antics, I want NICE BODY Klan Klang in both micronize and macronized forms, but I'm probably in the minority. So mostly the later in my case.

>>15727881
I'd have to wonder if the scientists would ever figure out a way to correct Klan's micloning issue so that she can scale down properly.

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>>15727911

Barring a battlefield death or serious injury, she's got...what? Another 200 years before she has to worry about old age? More or less? That's a long time for medical research.

It's not something she's happy with (even more so after the passing of a childhood friend), she seems like she actively wants a cure. Maybe time's on her side, and her micronized body will, eventually, keep aging even without treatment (after all, she aged into a pre-teen in the first place). I'd say yes, but I could be overly optimistic.

>>15727941
Isn't Mikael's death an optional reality, considering that IIRC, Kawamori mentioned that all Macross is "canon if considered as dramatized stories set in the universe?" Because if so, Mikael survived in the Frontier movies and could be considered another kind of canon.

Also kind of supported with the Frontier crew watching M7 in a "series within a series" sort of way.

>>15727976

Maybe? I'm pretty sure DYRL is very self-contained to the point where no events spin-off from it AND it's actually stated to be a artifact within the other settings (hence a film). I don't think the Frontier films have been characterized as such. I'm just operating off the TV series because I prefer the longer pacing and various events that don't appear otherwise. The films are fine too, it's nice that Klan Klang isn't heartbroken by Michael's death (also seeing Leon Mishima go from "disloyal coup plotter" to "Super-Patriot" is pretty funny).

>>15727941
>>15726481
How does the micloning scale work anyway? Can they choose, so she could deliberately be a bit shorter than Michael? Is it always to scale, so she would still come out about 8 feet tall?

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There's been more thought poured into this thread than the whole of Macross since 7.

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>>15728040

I seem to recall Nene being taller than Klan Klang and Raramia when proportionally macronized (and identified as "tall by Meltran standards"). If Klan Klang didn't have her genetic defect, presumably she'd be a little shorter than micronized Nene. Micronized, Nene is tall for a woman, but not abnormally so (and certainly not 8 ft), as seen in scenes where she's in the restaurant.

>>15728124

Forgot to add--this is complicated by the fact that all three of them are commander-sized (or very close to it). But that issue goes away if you consider that the entire macronzied Zentradi population on Frontier looks proportional to Klan Klang when walking in the mall (children are much shorter, adult men are appreciably taller, etc.), which is invaluable for a sense of scale.

Of course than you're left with the question why the entire population seems to be commander scale, and whether or not that's normal just in Frontier, or among multiple fleets.

>>15722261
>Nonetheless, the technological challenges of milking a woman 231 kilometers tall and keeping seas of milk fresh is better left to the reader.

I volunteer

>>15728126
Could be that common genes were forcefully inhibited in the Zentradi population by the cloning/vat system previously in place, and that now, with natural breeding, everyone is more or less commander sized. It could even be considered a simple natural consequence, hardly worthy of second thoughts.

From 10 meters tall to 13 meters tall is not absolutely impossible. The western world gained pretty much the same proportional average height between pre-modern and modern civilization.

Say, the old Zentradi/Meltrandi ways stunt developments for one reason or another, and now they can reach their true maximum heights (commander sized) all along. It doesn't seem so far fetched to me.

>>15725080
All of her kids shown take an interest in pilots. Two of them for the same guy.

>>15726249

That's kinda irrelevant when the 4 million strong fleet they fought was one fleet of a thousand equal in strength.

>>15725080
>>15728174
What's that artist's name?

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>>15728187
gee, I dunno
have you tried looking??

>>15728217
Thanks asshole. I was hoping to get their pixiv name.

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>>15728228
you can do it anon!

>>15728170

Or even just a beneficial diet or lifestyle (as with historic humans). Even among the still militarized Zentradi units in UN Spacey service (i.e. guys with green skin and old armor), there doesn't seem to be the previous size variation among combat castes (if it's there, it's hidden).

In any case, a properly micronized Klan Klang would be in the sub 2-meter range, largely because Nene and Raramia are clearly there too, and there's nothing to suggest Klan Klang is somehow much taller than they are (in fact, very conveniently she seems to fall in between their heights).

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>>15728228
If you went from iqdb and looked in the tags, it said the artist name was inui (jt1116).

I'm all for helping people out with finding tha sauce, but I usually check google search and iqdb before asking.

Also, I want to be stepped on by Klan sensually.

>>15728174
Who's the other daughter?

>>15728577

I was talking about Emilia and Mylene both liking Basara.

>>15727767
>not highlighting the spoilertext for the cap

Someone hunt down whoever capped that and beat the stupid out of him.

>>15727779
>despite their inclusion

?

>>15719698
Just one human sized bath tub?

>>15729681
How much were you expecting?

>>15727911
To be fair, the micloning issue does allow her to be nearly eternally young on top of her zentradi lifespan.
Wasn't one of the characters in Macross 30 who had the same condition implied to be like 60 years old or something.

>>15729738
Two bath tubs worth of milk?

>>15730040
Why would you need two bath tubs full of milk? Do you take two baths each day?

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>>15730252
I'd take 6 if it was milk baths!

All that healthy, creamy, and fresh breast milk providing superior cleansing properties!

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>>15730252
>he doesn't

>>15730286
>daily showering
enjoy your shit immune system

>>15730259
Seeing that Sv.52y really makes me want an OVA of Macross The Ride. It'll never happen though

>>15730657
Enjoy your nauseating body odor.

>>15731691
Has The Ride gotten a translation yet?

I want to read about Valkyrie races

>>15732434
Nope.

>>15732442
Jesus Christ its been six years. Tell me there's been scans of it, at least?

There aren't even giantess VNs. What is this.

>>15732545
https://vndb.org/v8041

>>15730657
>>15732246

Neither of those are a consequence of daily showers. Over washing results in more damage to your skin, not your immune system and unless you work at a job that involves lots of sweat then not cleansing daily won't make you smell. Even if you do you really only have to wash the particularly sweaty areas, like your arm pits and genitals; not your whole body and certainly not your hair, like many do.

>>15732548
My good master Bates.

>>15729738
Admittedly, for their size, boobs don't have enough milk in them if OP has calculated things right. Amazing what you learn with other gentle/m/en

>>15727941
These eyebrows...
HHHNNNGG

>>15732552
>not cleansing daily won't make you smell

Tropical here, just don't carry this attitude with you if you find yourself in equatorial shitholes, temperate bros. For both our sakes.

>>15732868

I'd have thought the "lots of sweat" part would cover that. Typically that does involve work, but if you're living in the tropics or it's just a real scorcher it doesn't preclude other causes. If you're from the tropics, especially if you're descendants have lived there with a while your body is probably evolved to deal with at least some of it anyway, and will produce sweat only at higher temperatures than you are used to and not the same temperatures someone who lives in a temperate or cold climate but is visiting does.

>>15726387
>somewhat masculine face

How did you determine that?

>>15719698
>What would you like to see in the next Macross, /m/?
Main girl being a full-blooded macronized meltran with whom the leading man dances using his Valkyrie.

>>15733586

See:

>>15719785
>>15719795

Adult Klan really gives me a boner, she looks so sensual omg.

>>15737009
Doesn't look any more masculine than any of the other females.

>>15737009
That's just Frontier's artstyle. All female characters are either young/loli looking or tend to suffer from manface. Sheryl is the best example.

>>15730286
>Mexico shampoos 8 times a week and showers 6 times a week

With what water?

>>15737257
It's obvious posturing. Very few people are willing to admit they take a shower more rarely than once every 1-2 days because it makes them look like Pigpen. Even though like other anons mentioned, you can take showers less often and still not stink, unless you live in the tropics or have a physically demanding job or something.

From temperate countries, only Japan's 5 showers a week looks believable. And since that's an extremely cleanliness-obsessed country, everyone else is overstating. Trust me, nobody who has been to Russia seriously believes they take an average of 6 showers a week there. Maybe 2-3, tops.

>>15737284
>nobody who has been to Russia seriously believes they take an average of 6 showers a week there

Why not?

>>15741141
I wanna bite that butt.

>>15741152
>Bite
Yeah, bite...

>>15741152
I want to be SAT on by that butt!

>>15725346
yes it does dingus. All milk contains lactose. I mean logically there's no reason an alien would have milk but clearly when you have not-human type aliens that science is out the window.
Babies' bodies create an enzyme that allows lactose to be broken down. The reason white people can drink milk as adults is that their bodies never stop producing that enzyme, most mammals stop producing it after they stop drinking milk as infants.

>>15743815
>>15721348

>>15732548
Literally the single half-decent example that exists.

>>15743914
Of what?

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>>15726386
not him but here

>>15719698
Wish she had more screen time at full size messing with Michael. Hoping we get a few full size meltradi with the upcoming anime.

>>15749151
You know that will never happen and that the next installment is going to be even safer than the last.

>>15732872
>>15732552
>>15730657
>average civilian millenial Trump voter.

>>15749164
Most Trump voters were middle class boomers though??

Thank you Macross, Japan, and based /m/en for reminding me this is a good fetish and worthy of love and adoration.

Western art and fucked up fetishists had almost ruined it for me.

>>15749164

> people paying attention to science are the average Trump voter

>>15729681
More bath tubs if I'm in one of them.

>>15751147
>ywn have a qt zentradi gf
just kill me ;_;

>>15749169
Most Trump voters were white men. Don't you read the news?

I voted for Trump TWICE, and I'm a post-Millenial Asian second-generation immigrant from one of the densest population centers in the USA.

>>15752712
Don't worry, stupidity knows no race.

>>15747112
Of a VN with giantess heroines you can fuck. Most of the other examples, which you can count on one hand, either have shit art or only have one giantess side character with few to no sex scenes.

>>15752721
don't I know it, just look at all those blacks voting for Hillary Clinton.

>>15749164
Wander too far from /co/?

>>15752723
>giantess heroines you can fuck

Would they get any sort of gratification out of such relations?

>>15754434
"Use your legs"

>>15754840
Pretty sure all the lower body strength in the world will not compensate for a complete lack of adequate size owing to such wide disparity of scale.

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>>15752492
Let's die together friend.

>>15755143
Not what I meant

How big are her shits? Asking for a friend haha

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tfw when you'll never fuck a giant girl with your plane

>>15719698
Is the whole giant thing off putting to anyone else? It's the only reason I haven't got into Macross, something about giants in such a setting triggers my autism.

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>>15756830
Sounds like a terminal case of shit taste

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>>15756830
Eight years ago, when I watched 7 for the first time, it was more or less what I thought. But then I stopped thinking when the big titty giantesses appeared.

Macross is soft SF as fuck. If you can digest magical girl idols and supersized battleship mechas, big Zentradi aren't that big of a stretch. It's just a part of the verse.

It isn't fundamentally different from a Jedi, a Psyker, or super bullshit technology in that regard.

>>15756830
It makes sense in context

>>15756448
No lewds allowed.

>>15756830
Giants are the sole justification for the existence of giant robots in Macross.

>>15760092
Macross 7 is one of those shows that cure people from the "muh realism" disease, along with G Gundam.

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Best part of piloting mecha is getting with a giantess. Understanding the appeal is easy.

>>15756830
Not really. When dealing with the mecha genre, unless you're one of those "muh realism" Battletech fans, you pretty much have to throw reasoning to the winds.

>>15760143
What context?

>>15719698
>By the most accurate estimates, Klan Klein is 12.5 - 13 meters tall
If Klan was that tall she would never fit in her Quadlunn Rea. That's just the animators messing up scale. They did the same in SDF and 7.

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>>15719698
While we are on the subject of stupid shit being calculated heres something i did for the robocop /m/ tier character Big Band from skullgirls

Force in Kg per cm2/3 of Big Band's Take the A Train from Skullgirls.
For this analysis we will be using BB's HP charged TtAT, as this is the maximum upper limit of hits. Before we begin calculating the force of anything we must have a rough sense of dimensions to work with. Now from the official SK site we know two important facts: 1, BB weighs in at exactly 5000 lbs which converted gives us 2267.962 Kg's or about two point two metric tons, this is the maximum upper limit of the sum total of BB's weight 2.BB is approximately 7,7 which allows us to measure and compare the relative size of objects (NOTE this is to the top of his back mounted Saxophone not his head height, which is actually 6 feet or 5,11 in his slumped battle pose) SECTION 1
Moving on the calculating our first unknown: The weight and dimensions of the Trombone slide. Now as we can first specify from Figure 1 we can see that the slide itself is not the frontal slide of a trombone but rather the tuning slide and counter weight from the rear of the trombone(this coralates with the fact that BB's Crouching MK is two trombones with frontal projecting slides moving forwards as opposed to HP TtAT which extends rearwards).
Referring to Figure 2 we can already draw some observations. When taken aside as a clip we can see that even mid lunge, BB still hits his 5,11sh/6f head height. Now removing the Slide section and placing it next to the standing normal big band we can begin to measure the Slide: Figure 4, here we can see that while not hitting head height it comes to about fore head height above the crouched BB shoulders. From this we can safely presume it to be below six feet and above 5. A figure of roughly 5,3 inches accounting for the obscured slide under the jacket gives us a nice height.

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>>15762890
As for width we can simply place it length wise to get an estimation, which comes out to roughly 1F 11 Inches.
So now we have a maximum dimension, but obviously the whole 5,3 by 1,11 is not solid brass. So now we must move on. Typically Trombone tuning slides can be entirely separate pieces of brass, this couple with the variance in Trombone size makes it hard to estimate. Converting into Metric gives us 1.6 metres by approximately 0.33 metres. Two get the exact though i called a local music store and asked for a rough weight of an average tenor Trombone tuning slide and counter weight. They replied that the weight would be no more than a lbs and half and never more than two and a half lbs(so as not to become back heavy), with the total weight with around two lbs.
This gives us a good ballpark to figure out. Now as the slide has abnormally long tubing we need to add in a bit extra weight to our “man sized” trombone slide, rounding it up to toughly three lbs with additional tubing. Now for a typical tenor Trombone tuning slide, as it is smaller than the main slide around 15cm is a good estimate by our slightly longer 30cm length.
This allows us to then proceed and find our ratio: If a man sized (slightly long) Tenor Trombone slide is 15/30 cm and weighs 3 lbs(1.3kg), and our our Big Band sized Tenor Trombone slide is 160/33 cm but we do not know the weight.

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>>15762893
So: 30*15=450
160*33=5280
5280-450=4830
4830/450=10.73
10.73*100=1073.333%(cont) Larger
But more practically:
130/x=450/4830
427900=x450
427900/450=x450/450
950=x
Rounding back up to kg that becomes 95 kg or about 209 lbs, well under big bands maximum of 5000
So our 3 lbs slide now becomes 209 lbs. This sounds like allot but considering it is about the size of a man and made from brass with a counter weight it will balance out nicely.
SECTION 2
Now that we have a mass we can move on to acceleration velocity and momentum.
For the initial grab animation and frames it takes roughly 24 frames or around half a second to wind up the attack, but after that we see two quick hits with a wound up third launching the victim within only 7 frames. Coming out to one (slow) frame the initial charged grab with no victim, two (quick) frames, and a final (slow) frame. All within three seconds aprox.
In order to get the full acceleration on the slide we need the see the total distance distance it travels first.
Now to calculate the maximum we have to assume a “blank” shell with no loaded person. As we clearly see from the animation the slide completely disappears into the fist and fist length must also be taken into account. As the front of the fist is simply fingers we can see from figure 6 that the length of the arm is an additional 5 feet roughly. Combine with our initial 5,1 this gives us a total length if 10,1(3.07848 metres), which appears reasonable with the in-game animations.
So now we have our distance, mass and speed we can get out unknowns. Force (F)=m x a
F (n)= m (kg) x a (m/s2)
F (n)= (95 kg ) x (3.07m/s2)

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>>15762897
F (n)=291.65 kg
This gives us the first wind up grab with not victim and the fourth slide extension that launches the player. However for the intermediary two hits travel and a much faster rate than the initial grab slide or final slide. Almost exactly half a second which makes sense as:
First second-Charged slide out grab
Second second-Two quick consecutive hits
Third second-Final launching open palmed hit
For those two intermediaries we need to double the speed in m/s2 which we can do simply enough by doubling the distance travelled(as this is equal, for the first and last slide move 3 m/s2 so if the middle two take half as long they move twice as fast there for 6.14 m/s2)
So:
(F)=m x a
F (n)= m (kg) x a (m/s2)
F (n)= (95 kg ) x (6.14m/s2)
583.3 kg
CONCLUSION
So in total the three consecutive hits generates in total:
first hit grab no dmg
1rst 2nd slide hits 583.3(2)=1166.6+
Final hit 3rd slide 291.65
Big bands Charged Take the A Train does approximately 1458.25 kg/m2 or about 1.4 metric tons of sliding punching force.

>>15762890
>>15762893
>>15762897
>>15762903
This is unhealthy...
Even for 4chan

Anybody else?

>>15764266
?

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Freshly translated Klan vanilla:
https://exhentai.org/g/1099782/e9ca041a6b/

And if you need e-hentai credits or hath, post your username here. I don't have much use for them.

>>15721721
don't square cube law kick into the account? I do remember the post where the calculation have been done before.

>>15724996
I wonder how would meltrandi live in colony macronized with those human all along.
I mean, isn't that hard for them to wear skirt, walking around like a woman & ended up with embarrassment because some human sudden peek up to their under skirt?

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>>15768288
>vanilla
Bless the gods.

>>15768288
>mikhail

How do you fcuk that up?!

>>15769662
To be fair, his name is spelt inconsistently. Sometimes it's Michael, sometimes it's Mikhail like he's Russian or something.

>>15768288
I like everything about Klan except Mikhail.

>>15768707
Meltrandi that wears skirts probably get spats or something under the skirt to prevent that.

>>15768288
>https://exhentai.org/g/1099782/e9ca041a6b/

I've got bounties for a few Betterman doujins that need lot's of credits /hath

>>15770841
Put a bounty on https://e-hentai.org/g/48985/87ae12e59d/ while you're at it.

>>15771894
>https://e-hentai.org/g/48985/87ae12e59d/
I'd love to. But 'm down to my last 300,000 credits or so and I have about 50 bounties to support.

A few hundred thousands credits or so and I'll gladly make a bounty for it.

A milion or so and I'll add a bounty for whatever Non futa non scat Klan Klan doujin I can find.

>>15772041

Sent you some, check your mooglemail. But you should stop giving rewriters a pass. You're encouraging people even worse than Laruffii.

>>15772065
>you should stop giving rewriters a pass

Seriously, this.

>>15719698
OP here is fightin' the good fight, bringing quality back to /m/ one thesis at a time

>>15777155
Has it been capped yet?

>>15780142
nope

>>15727911
SO you wouldn't Macronize for Klan-Klan!!!!

SHAME!

SHAME!!!

>>15772065

OK. But apparently, NO ONE seems to like Ayu from Kanon or Sanae from Clannad.

Or even Fuuka Ayase.

Gonna put up my Klan Klan bounty tonight.

I could always use more credits and help from scanlators, if you know any!!!

I'm probably the only person who has a Betterman Bounty.

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scanlate (C74) [LUCK&PLUCK!Co. Jounetsu Neppuu Planet Dance to English 18 pp

https://e-hentai.org/bounty.php?bid=16831

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>>15772041
scanlate (C74) [G-Power! (SASAYUKi)] Futanari no F wa, Frontier no F (Macross)

https://e-hentai.org/bounty.php?bid=16832

https://e-hentai.org/bounty.php?bid=16831

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>>15764266
No, this is pretty normal for us.

>>15780689
What you and the OP posted were normal and acceptable and a good use of math.

The tl;dr posted by that other anon had nothing to do with using science to measure women for the sake of perversion and was thus completely pointless.

>>15720105
Cuute

>>15770841
>>15771894
>>15772041
don't tell me people actually play that ponyfucker's autistic RPG just to get some smut

>>15781022

Fuck that noise. Real money commissions are the only way to get things actually done.

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>>15719698

>>15780142

I would cap it but >no Paint

Anyone got online alternatives, then?

>>15780142
>>15782706

>>15747533

>>15782715

Fuck me, I'm blind.

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>>15780386
Nice; after nine agonizing years we may FINALLY get a scanslation!

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>>15720126

>90 cm undercarriage

Wait...maybe I'm reading this wrong, doing the math wrong, and/or an idiot, but is this guy assuming a properly micronized "tall adult" Klan would have a bust size of 116 cm?

Because god damn.

>>15784562
It's math involving a fictional character. All that matter is that it's still a generous bust.

>>15784562
>undercarriage

?