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You have to realize that if a show isn't engaging by the third episode, you can't really say it's good. You're just making excuses for it because you sunk time into it
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>>15476366

MAL ADD fag detected
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>>15476366
I can give you most of those but Votoms is pretty engaging until a little after spacenam before it picks up again.
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Isn't Fafner's excuse that they changed directors or something part way through?
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>>15476366
>GGG
Shitty MotW
>Fafner
Never seen it
>E7
Was pretty shitty I'll give you that since the first arc is mostly filter episodes
>V Gundam
Fuck off, It gets good by episode 7.
>Macross 7
First half is boring.
>Votoms
I must be the only person on /m/ to enjoy arc 1 & 2 of Votoms.
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>>15476407
I loved the nam arc the most out of them all
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>>15476398
Writers, and it's also episode 6, not 10.
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>>15476366
But anon. I loved GaoGaiGar from episode one.
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>>15476482
You're the exception, not the rule. Most people quickly get tired of MotW format shows.
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>>15476483
MotW shit like Sailor Moon and Stardust Crusaders are immensely popular though. You or I might not like MotW, but the masses eat it up.
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>>15476366
G-Reco should be first on this list.
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>>15476472
It was a transition over the course of 12 to 15, actually. Check the credits.

And OP sounds like the kind of person that watches shows at 2x speed so their oh so precious time isn't wasted.
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>>15476407
The first arc of VOTOMS is my favourite. I love the whole series, but Uoodo is great.

Anyway OP sucks cock. I haven't seen Fafnir or Eureka Seven, but the rest of them were great from the start.
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>>15476366
But the first 3 episodes of Victory are great.
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>>15476366
If you didn't like VOTOMS from the start, you are most likely a gay.
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>>15476366
I fixed it for you OP.
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>>15476366
GGG and Votoms are excellent from episode one. V Gundam is literally aired out of order so it has an excuse.
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>>15476366
Victory is good from the start though
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>>15476483

Most people are aware that a lot of these shows are simple non ultra serious master pieces for high brow and sophisticated anime watchers such as yourself and can enjoy a bit of disposable media to unwind.

Sometimes some one just wants to watch a robot punch a metal horse in the face
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>>15476618
Was there a reason for that or it's just Tomino trying to be avant garde?
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>>15476653
Bandai wanted a Gundam in the first episode.
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>>15476366
>VOTOMS

Are you really gonna pretend those first three episodes aren't amazing?
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>>15476653
In chronological order, the Gundam doesn't show up until episode 3 or 4.
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>>15476366
>I had a good time with this show
>NO YOU DIDNT!
I motherfucking did, faggot.
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>>15476491

Stardust Crusaders ain't exactly formulaic though and Sailor Moon is pushed by illumanati to sell witchcraft to teenage girls.
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>>15476366
Where's Gurren Laggan?
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>>15476613
Mazinger Z and Dougram are good from the first episode.
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>>15476699
Seconding.
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>>15476366
Why would you make a starter pack that doesn't say what the shows are? I know this is a meme but c'mon son
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>>15476407
>>15476524
yeah OP can eat shit, Woodo is great
>the arena
>first face-to-face encounter with Fyana
>urban combat against an army of asshole cops
>that initial doubt as to whether Chirico is an actual badass or just bullshitting, followed by the loadout scene
>that feel-inducing voiceover when he falls asleep in the cockpit of the junked Scopedog
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>>15476407
>Never seen it
>I haven't seen Fafnir
And i'm pretty sure a lot of anon's haven't either because of hirai face.
It's pretty difficult to defend when you're playing where's waldo with the fucking cast.

But i say give Right of Left a try and see what you anon's think.
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>>15476366
Is its only 1 cour you give it the 3 episode trial

If it's 2 cour you give it 5

3 cour is 7-8

4 cour+ you give it 10

Now if you hate the series or are severely disinterested you can drop it before that, but you can't really say you gave it a fair chance unless it truly shits the bed in like the first episode.
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>>15476699
>>15476702
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>>15476366
Victory gets good after episode 3 though. Fafner always stays shit though and it baffles me how it's so popular here.
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>>15476754
>not liking Mazinger from the first episode
That's how we know you're a pleb with shit taste.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNho4Eze5aI
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>>15476766
How much Fafner have you seen? The sequels are generally considered an improvement, and it's become a pretty clear labor of love on the staff's part.
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>>15476366
I get engaged by a show just by looking at the promo poster then I wait until the show is finished/BDs are out, download the batch and store it away to watch later
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>>15476777
The original series and the sequel movie. Maybe calling it shit is a bit too much but it just felt really underwhelming and a waste of time.
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>>15476483
That's not true. Star Trek and Stargate were immensely popular in their episodic seasons. So is nearly every mecha series, including the early Gundam. And this is not to mention how popular the format is in Japan, because I assume you're talking aboit the opinions of fat western "otaku".

GGG, by the way, has a coheaive storyline that comes together really nicely if you aren't part of the ADHD generation and finish it.
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>>15476613
Gunbuster and Mazinger Z are both amazing from the start though, so I guess you just have shit taste
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>>15476785
I'd give Exodus a shot if you ever just need something to watch, probably won't change your mind but there's a lot of effort put into it, especially compared to the first series. Much better action too, if everything else just doesn't work for you.
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>>15476785
To be honest Right of Left is a better entry to the series than the tv.
At least for me i felt more invested afterwards.

The Festum for awhile are pretty generic but take a tremendous leap forward in Exodus.
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>>15476613
How are people falling for this bait? It has a 6 episode OVA on it.
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>>15476794
It's low quality bait, Gunbuster isn't even 10 episodes long.
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>>15476798
>>15476799
Anon's attempting to get under your skin by slipping Diebuster in there.
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>>15476802
They are two separate shows so he would only be revealing himself as a retard for doing so
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>>15476770
>Old-ass dirt animation
>Crabstick subs

Keep playing the "Irony" card. I'm sure it makes you feel smarter than what you really are.
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>>15476798
Yeah. 6 episodes of garbage.

>>15476802
>>15476811
But Diebuster is superior to Gunbuster. So you're both retards for liking the inferior show.
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>>15476366
>Votoms
>First episode has MC saw a bald woman's tits and was captured by The Man. He made an action-packed escape successfully thus begin an episodic adventure full of mystery and action.

How is that not a good first episode?
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>>15476816
>ironic
I don't own the discotek dvds. This is the best of what's available for free.

You do know that the crabstick version looks a lot dirtier than what the show actually looks like on DVD right?

Mazinger looks great on bluray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UQxU068yRk
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>>15476819
>But Diebuster is superior to Gunbuster. So you're both retards for liking the inferior show.
I never said one was better than the other, just your bait is low quality since its not even 10 episodes. Try again.
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>>15476366
>You have to realize that if a show isn't engaging by the third episode, you can't really say it's good. You're just making excuses for it because you sunk time into it

I don't mind sinking time watching some episodes of a show. With time you develop a kind of sixth sense to at least give a pretty good idea what the fuck an anime show is going to do after watching 1 or 2 episodes.
It has saved me time and time again with no regret whatsoever. The very few occassions when I get it wrong I will put the show on the backburner and get to it some time in the future.
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>>15476483
>Most people quickly get tired of MotW format shows.

And /m/ member worth his salt doesn't get tired of the MotW formula. Otherwise he wouldn't be a fucking mecha anime fan. Just saying, just saying...
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>>15476673
>aint exactly formulaic enough
>jojofags actually think this

At least you didnt pull the 'le fun' card but still
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>>15476366
You could've taken the opportunity to troll Gasaraki, and you blew it.

Reevaluate your life decisions.
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>>15476899
I'm not trolling. This list is a list of overrated shows that people go out of their way to defend despite being overly long not very good series
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>>15476483
>Most people quickly get tired of MotW format shows.
You obviously haven't been in any Gundam threads lately, especially the ones trying to defend Zeta as being good.
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>>15476984
Which one exactly is "overrated" and "not very good"? Because I'm not seeing it. Granted, I haven't seen E7, but if it's anywhere near as good as the rest of the shows there, I might have to.
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>>15476733
>But i say give Right of Left a try and see what you anon's think.
That's cruel on several levels, especially giving them the hope the series will be as good.
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>>15476785
>It felt underwhelming and a waste of time

Did you actually pay attention or did you speedwatch at 2x speed and miss the subtle character development? Stuff like Gurren Lagann or Evangelion are bigger wastes of time than Fafner
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>>15477000
>character development
>in a show where everyone's personalities flipflop when they get on the robutts
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>>15477011
>Not understanding that the personality flipflops are meant to represent coping mechanisms pilots who are conflicted about piloting
>Not understanding that the pilots who don't suffer personality shifts are the ones who've simply accepted what they have to do
>Ignoring the adults development

Weh Weh
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>>15477000
I did pay attention and honestly it was nothing special. I liked Kazuki's character arc but it honestly wasn't worth sitting through the series for considering the majority of it is just muh understanding.
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>>15477000
As much as I like Fafner, it kind of helps to remember other people are allowed to you know, feel differently, anon.
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>>15477016
>Majority of it is meh underestanding
>When the end of the show is literally "Fuck we can't understand each other"

>>15477022
Yeah, but I don't have to agree and I get to say he's stupid if I want. Especially if he likes any anime I think are bad.
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>>15476366
Victory should be replaced with ZZ. Though I guess if you did that you'd have to change it to 25 episodes.
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>>15476366
VOTOMS was good at the start I don't know what the fuck you're talking about
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> Stop liking what I dislike: the post
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>>15476407
Yeah 1 and 2 are my favorites honestly. 2 More so than one, but I liked Woodo too.

Not to say I didn't like Sunsa or Quient either, but I really liked Nam with AT's, and shitty future cities are my jam.

>>15476732
The rain of money, and the first scopedog spin while firing trick were fucking hype too.
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>>15476999
>Implying i don't mean the story itself sets up the series better.
It's a prequel anon you tend to care a little more knowing that a world and or its characters have been through some shit before throwing you straight into hell's kitchen. Understanding that something likes to take the time and effort for world building and character development is also an incentive for caring.
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>>15476613
I loved all of those shows from the first episode.
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>>15476816
It's literally the first time they animated piloted robots. For me it's great to watch them actually figuring out how to animate giant robots as they go.
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>>15476613
>im here to shitpost and there is nothing you can do about it
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>>15476835
You can't fool me with your scrubs. It's still Crabstick, and Mazinger is still garbage.

>>15476842
I don't have to try since you bit anyway. :^)

>>15477552
Then your taste is shit

>>15477558
Just because they're the first doesn't mean they're great. Unless you're like one of those disneytards on /co/ that praises Steamboat Willie for being the first Mickey Mouse cartoon.
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>>15477575
Pretty much! Thanks for contributing to my collection of (You)s idiot!
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>>15476407
>I must be the only person on /m/ to enjoy arc 1 & 2 of Votoms.

It his a joke? The first half of VOTOMS is incredible. If anything it's the second half where things fall apart and the show becomes merely great instead of perfect.
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>>15477582
Nah, it's a great show on it's own merits and the goody animation just makes it better.

Not to mention that if you really don't like those shows, do you actually like giant robot shows?
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But victory is good in the entire first arc.
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>>15476366
I can't speak for everyone, but I enjoyed the entirety of GaoGaiGar and the first arc of VOTOMS is probably its strongest. E7 I can understand, and Victory is a bit of a mess(still fairly enjoyable though)
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>>15476493
Yeah, I know. I meant that episode six was the "it gets good by" point.
I was tired and forgot to be clear.
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>>15476366
You only need to watch the first episode to know if it's good or bad. Plenty of shows go bad after a good first episode by I've yet to encounter a show that got better after a bad first episode.
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>>15478451
>t. someone that has watched two things at most
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>>15477060
Fuck off, you spic faggot.
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>>15476407
>I must be the only person on /m/ to enjoy arc 1 & 2 of Votoms.

Wrong. I enjoyed all of them

>>15476366
Drop it because if it doesn't appeals you now, it wouldn't later. That's not rocket science you made it out to be.
And those fellas who liked it? They liked it from early episode and were willing to go further with the payoff making it all the worth later on.
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Bait thread successful, I guess.
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>>15477587
>(you)
This is really getting forced and misapplied lately.
Almost as bad as calling everything a meme.
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>>15476613
>gunbuster
>10 episodes
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>>15482617
you're not gonna get banned, there's no mods on /m/
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>>15476407

>e7

holland was still beating rentons ass 10 episodes in, so i dont agree. fuck the gekko state
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>>15476835
Discotek got ripped last year, anon. upgrade now
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=772436&showfiles=735426f9
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>the le "i come from 9gag and don't know how to be funny so i will le steal overused formats that every normalfaggot uses" starter pack
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>>15476794
Not really.
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>>15482838
Why are you upset?
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>>15478540
I didn't make a single mention of Mazinger or Getter get your memes right.
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Counterpoint: the first three (actually, eight) episodes of Destiny are great.

Also if the opening notes of Reason aren't playing in your head manually when you see this picture, I don't know what to tell you.
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>>15486394
>Counterpoint: the first three (actually, eight) episodes of Destiny are great.
I would contend that it's even breddy gud up until just after Kira crashes the wedding.

The Freedom's reactivation was also nifty (and stock footagey).
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>>15482629
>he didn't enjoy bad dad holland
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>>15486394
You know it is, anon.

It's this one, though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmX564UTabE
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More like if a show isn't engaging in its first episode, it's shit.

The only show that I've ever watched that had a complete garbage first episode, and turned out to be worth watching was Mob Psycho 100.
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>>15482629
Not badly, He was just shiting on him like everyone one else is.
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>>15488796
>Meme Psycho
>Good

(lol
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>>15476366
except Eureka Seven and Votoms were engaging from episode 1. Victory I'd give a pass because we know there was meddling to have the gundam appear in the first episode even though it chronologically appears later on, which is why it has such a janky start
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>>15486394
>opening notes of Reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmX564UTabE
What does Blade have to do with SEED Destiny?
Also on the topic of shows that take a while to get good, though it's mostly just the early animation that's underwhelming with Blade.
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I just started watching VOTOMS for the first time. It is dated but pretty good.
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>>15476366
The three episode is a rule for 12 episode shows.

It makes sense it would be adjusted for shows with longer length, since proportionally, it makes sense the plot would move forward in 1/3 or 1/4th of the show's runtime
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