So i was looking at Juaggu and thinking. I wanted to make some

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>>15467035
lets all take a moment to really appreciate zeonic mobile suit design

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>>15467035

Was just watching that in action earlier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3jNep1Ywc8

I'm amazed it still performs quite well given it's nearly two decades out of date.

>>15467035
Really their aquatic MS, niche as they are, weren't as frivolous as some of their other shit, allot of them were some of the first Mass Production (or at least limited I doubt that, as aquatic MS any of them were really built in numbers rivaling Zaku's or GM's and shit) suits with beam weapons and such, and most of them were shown being pretty damn effective.

Plus I like the idea of underwater mechs for some reason, even the Aqua GM, and the Aqua Guncanon is one of my favorite things to happen from Thunderbolt.

If they're gonna shovel out more UC, and OYW, I hope we get something focused on aquatic/close to show combat, pad out the federation side with some various aquatic suits variants of GM's or new ones, and show off some more of the Zeke stuff.

>>15467038
You may not like it but that's the ideal male body, that's what peek performance looks like.

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>>15467038

That thing practically borders on being a Mobile Armor.

I think the one in Journey to Jaburo is a Mobile Armor in fact.

Zeon has nothing on Zanscare design.

>>15467035
I thought Juaggu was so stupid, but it's grown on me.

>>15467080

I remember fighting this guy , and he was back by like 2 Acguys

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>>15467230

Indeed.

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>>15467230
>>15467273

>>15467035

How viable is an aquatic MS is a goddamn space war. It's like the germans making subs to invade Russia

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>>15467280

Technically, they were needed for Zeon's earth attack force.

One step in their plan was to sweep the Federation from the seas.

>>15467280
It's like you have no knowledge of anything that happened in mobile suit gundam.

>>15467284
But why are the heads so damn big?

>>15467394
Probably because they're just extensions/literally built into the torso with most of them, and also need to be aquadynamic.

>>15467242
Me too. I tended to use the Gundam Hammer a lot, but this guy just kept kicking my ass. Then I accidentally discovered I could charge my shot with the beam rifle.

Things became reeeeeal easy.

>>15467284
Actually, not really. The thing is, they didn't develop most amphibious MS until after they landed on Earth and already took most of the seas. Most of the early databooks told us that the Operation British colony drop wrecked the EF navy on a global scale, and oceanside bases happened to be damaged by tidal waves. Zeon swooped in and ended up occupying lot of them, including the important California base. Since the oceans fell under Zeon control fairly easily and the EFF didn't have much of a way to wrest control back, Zeon would develop submarines and amphibious MS to attack land with.

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>>15467279
Shokew wasn't too spooky.

>>15467280
Play Gihren's Greed.

>play as the Federation
>Zeon completely dominates the seas, it's a fucking bitch to gain control of them when you've just got Aqua GMs, Fisheyes, and Gundivers
>even just stealing the plans for the Acguy makes things easier
>have to siege Hawaii by flying units in on planes

>>15467077
This is weird as fuck, I thought I was the only one who felt that way.

I want to see more aquatic or amphibious battles. Aqua GMs and Fisheyes struggling to keep up with Zeon's beam weaponry before some Guncannon Aquas and a Gundiver can reinforce them, , bubbles scattering everywhere due to explosions, people panicking as their cockpit springs a leak. Battling underwater can be even more dangerous than battling in space.

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They've all grown on me but the Zogok is still my favorite.

Why did Zeon name so many of their mobile suits after onomatopoeia for slapping your cock on gelatin?

>>15467077
you'll be seeing it soon man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBbEH6vWA6s

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>>15467038
You have to understand that the Zock is built like a walking bullet or torpedo, only angled upwards. As it is, when "swimming", it is in a prone position wherein it can use all nine (count 'em!) Mega Particle Cannon on targets directly in front of it, below it, or above it, and that last one is especially important while attacking enemy shipping. Ever heard of schrage muzik? Like that. Standing up properly, you're facing four mega particle cannon from the front and rear, and an array in the head, to boot. Not too much for Amuro, but a fearsome prospect for normal pilots.

It excels in the water and on land thanks to its design; the thing has Dom-like thrusters for land movement, a monoeye rail that covers the entire body, and guns that fire both to the rear and front (which, by the way, are identical; no need to turn around to go backwards). Many of its traits are in fact exaggerated versions of ones present on other suits; the Acguy and Z'Gok both share the 360 degree monoeye movement, weaponry arrangement (head vulcans/torpedoes), and in the Z'gok's case especially the entire body is arranged in a means that is beneficial for "swimming prone" rather than like a man. Even the Gogg shares some of these traits with its gel launcher and retractable arms.

Think of the Zock and Z'gok as submarines with legs whereas suits like the Gogg, Acguy, Juaggu, and Zogok are more like men in diving suits. Don't mock the Zock!

>>15467284
Agguguy's giant monoeye is very disturbing for some reason. LLike its legitimately unnerving though I can't pinpoint why exactly.

I do love Juagg's elephant trunk though

>>15467816
because it looks like a terrifying insect, like that mutated fly from the simpsons

>>15467056
>I'm amazed it still performs quite well given it's nearly two decades out of date.
I mean, I'm sure you know this, but this is how real weapons work.
In the real world we're still using tanks and shit made just after World War 2. Weapons don't magically become obsolete just because new ones are made. For some reason, the whole "rapid advance of technology" thing made the Gundam writers treat Mobile Suits as if they were computers that get invalidated as soon as the next one is released, which isn't even true for technology in real life. I'd rather have a slightly outdated weapon in a fight than either a new weapon that might not work properly or no weapon at all. I think that explains why a lot of people would be willing to go up against a Gundam in a grunt suit.

>>15467872
Yeah, in the world of military hardware, reliability is king. It's better to have an older design that's rugged, proven, and has a wealth of spare parts than a bleeding edge marvel with teething problems and is probably a major hanger queen.

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>>15467654
Exactly, it's an underused theater of war for the UC, we've seen pretty much everything else pretty widely, I mean we've had a few forays into aquatic combat since Jaburo (Unicorn and Thunderbolt and small snippets here and there) but I want more damn it.

The 0081 game had a cool under water mission with deep sea bases and a Grublo and shit. That said I remember being on the federation side of that, and just using a modified Ez8 since it was better than the aquatic GM once you got it's underwater rating up a bar or two lol.

>>15467770
I'm excited for it, the underwater stuff was cool in the Manga, the Grublo appearing was neat (my favorite MA), the Aquatic guncanon, and then the chase with the Buddhists with Daryl's Acguy was cool as fuck too.

Also Thunderbolt Gogg is neat.

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>>15467781
This, the Zock was terrifying, it was basically the sum total of everything they learned developing their aquatic MS.

It has a ton of beam weapons while being deployed at time where there wasn't many, it's equally armed on both sides, it was basically a tiny MA.

>>15468171
thunderbolt gogg looks fucking great

>>15467035
People just got used to the unrealistic Gundams.

>>15467587
Shokew a cute!

>>15467872
>we're still using tanks and shit made just after World War 2

Who's still using tanks from the '50s as anything other than target practice or glorified IFVs now?

I'll agree with your points insofar as small arms go- a rifle designed with a solid action and using a good cartridge isn't going to go out of fashion because something newer and shinier hit the scene (consider the M16/AR-15 lineage of rifles which reaches back to the late 50s, and how many experimental gizmos tried to dethrone it and failed), but with vehicles newer is almost always better, ESPECIALLY armored vehicles.

Consider a modern, US military standard M1A2SEPv2 (so, not a down-armored foreign variant without the DU armor/sabot rounds). Put it next to an initial production M1, or even an M1A1. The A1 crew are going to be walking home, if at all, while the A2SEPv2 crew are going to be worrying about touching up the paint where all the incoming shots bounced off.

And hell, aren't suits made after the one year war supposed to make much greater usage of Luna-titanium alloy? The stuff that can entirely resist a 120mm Zaku MG projectile in a dead-flat impact?

>>15468374
Did you see any grunt Zaku machine guns at Torrington? The point is that amphibious zeek mobile suits were built to much greater standards of armor and armament that they were still able to wreak havoc so many years later.

These things had beam weaponry, mega particle cannons, huge artillery, and powerful claws.

>>15468463
I dunno, man. Other shows show the amphibious suits as being not much better than any other suit insofar as armor is concerned- 0080 has that Hygogg that gets pilot-sniped with a 90mm GM MG from fairly considerable range.

I think more the reason that all those less-seen suits did so well in Torrington is because that whole battle was fanservice to Zeon MSV fans, not because of any inherent superiority of their designs or anything.

>>15467230
Zanscare Aquatic mobile suit that isn't even properly water-tight?

>>15467280
>be spacenoid
>look at earth from space
>90% water

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>>15467273
>>15467279
I love how G-Reco ties in with Late UC.

Zanscare mobile suits have come a long way.

>>15468945
Fucking hell, HG Morans would be extremely nice. they have a really simple design which would allow for great articulation. I love how the gun fits snugly on the long arms.

>>15468945

Some of that Zanscare Beam String technology also shows up in Turn A and or G Reco doesn't it?

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I unironically think the Zogok is one of the coolest looking aquatic mobile suits. Plus, it shoots boomerangs.

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>>15467765
>>15469809

Now do those boomerangs come back or do they have to be retrieved at the end of each battle?

>>15469862
I actually think they don't return.

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>>15469862
>>15469809
Those are boomerangs?
what shows this guy from?

I just assumed they were heat sinks

>>15470303
It came from 80s MSV, although one of them showed up in Unicorn

>>15467273
Imagine that being the last thing you see before you die. Holy shit.

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>>15470411

Indeed. The amount of humiliation one would experience from being killed by such a stupid looking thing is unfathomable.

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>>15470303

>Those are boomerangs?

Yes. The video here has a brief demonstration of them in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE8lqdeErfs

>>15469862
>doesthislooklikethefaceofmercy

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juaggugugu

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>>15467769
Blame Tomino

>>15468945
do those folding katana things offer any advantage over a beam saber or are they just for variety's sake?

>>15470303

>what shows this guy from?

I think a number of them are said to be in civilian hands in ZZ.

One also shows up in Unicorn when the Zeon Remnants strike at Torrington, sporting a heat blade and panzer faust. I think its also one of the few Remnant units to escape when things turn against them.

>>15471600

They look cool

>>15468171

>the Grublo appearing was neat (my favorite MA)

I enjoy that one too. Especially since it was the basis for the Shamblo.

However, doesn't official UC lore state that all Grublos were destroyed or captured off the coast of Madagascar at the war's conclusion?

>>15470303

Gundam-san never ceases to amuse me.

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Why are there no new aquatic mobile suits? idk if I'm right in saying this because I don't watch the shows, but it feels like they made aquatic gundam in the first show and then decided that was a stupid idea and almost never did it again. They are always the best designs

>>15467038
>>15467077
>>15467781
>>15468243
I always appreciate it when people give love to the GOAT

>>15471600
+10 to shooting down base jobbers

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>>15473441
Mostly because after 0079, wars mostly take place in space and on the land parts of Earth. There's very little need to build aquatic MS because there's nothing really to capture in the ocean, and because no side ever really dominates Earth again to the point that an opposing force can't just fly or haul in Mobile Suits.

There's some remnants left who do use aquatic MS, but the Feds captured a bunch of those when the war ended and use those to deal with remnants instead of building more. Haman's Neo Zeon and Zanscare develop a few aquatic suits, but those aren't widespread because again, everyone's focused on the space and land war.

Capule/Kapool a cute though.

>>15468374
Post-OYW suits sacrificed armor for mobility actually, because they were more concerned about beam weapons. However most of that mobility was found in space is the thing. Those newer GMs, Nemos, Guncannons etc. were not much different than those OYW suits on land. Especially the Doms. Add in the element of surprise, and the fact that the Zeon force were supposed to all be hardened vets, and it makes sense why they were doing so well at the beginning.

>>15473441
Why would you be here if you haven't been watching the shows?

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>>15467035

>>15473608
I like mech designs and toys

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>>15468374
>Who's still using tanks from the '50s

T-55s in Syria, T-34-85s in Ukraine, lots of old American tanks are maintained in third world armies, and there are massive quantities of T-34s and T-54/55s spread across various other countries, pretty sure North Korea would use a lot of old Russian vehicles if anything happened.

>>15473606
>Post-OYW suits sacrificed armor for mobility
Untrue, considering that it became standard for mobile suits to be built with Luna Titanium Alloy, equivalent to the Luna Titanium Armor of the Gundam. And improved anti-beam coating, generally used on shields and for suits like the Hyaku-Shiki and the ZZ's Full Armor loadout. Really, it's more accurate to say that they focused on mobility instead of armor, not that they sacrificed it.
>Those newer GMs, Nemos, Guncannons etc. were not much different than those OYW suits on land
Apart from being able to hover, which they do multiple times in Zeta and ZZ. It's not their main method of movement like a Dom, but they can use it enough so that they're not always running on their feet. Post-OYW also saw the rise of Base Jabbers, which allowed non-flight-capable MS to fight in the sky.

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>>15467781
>You have to understand that the Zock is built like a walking bullet

Except that it can barelt walk; its hover function is the only way it can be even a little mobile on land.

>or torpedo, only angled upwards. As it is, when "swimming", it is in a prone position wherein it can use all nine (count 'em!)

Eight, actually. More on that below.

>Mega Particle Cannon on targets directly in front of it, below it, or above it, and that last one is especially important while attacking enemy shipping. Ever heard of schrage muzik? Like that.

The thing on top of its head is not an MPC, it's a phonon maser.

>Standing up properly, you're facing four mega particle cannon from the front and rear, and an array in the head, to boot.

Again, phonon maser.

>It excels in the water and on land thanks to its design;

I wouldn't go that far. It can only just barely walk, and when it hovers it ain't pulling no Dom-like maneuvers. The hover effect just allows it baseline mobility.

>the thing has Dom-like thrusters for land movement,

It needs the hover ability because it can barely walk.

>a monoeye rail that covers the entire body, and guns that fire both to the rear and front (which, by the way, are identical; no need to turn around to go backwards).

The only MS that looks the same coming and going!

>Many of its traits are in fact exaggerated versions of ones present on other suits; the Acguy and Z'Gok both share the 360 degree monoeye movement, weaponry arrangement (head vulcans/torpedoes), and in the Z'gok's case especially the entire body is arranged in a means that is beneficial for "swimming prone" rather than like a man. Even the Gogg shares some of these traits with its gel launcher and retractable arms.

Yup!

>Think of the Zock and Z'gok as submarines with legs whereas suits like the Gogg, Acguy, Juaggu, and Zogok are more like men in diving suits. Don't mock the Zock!

I do appreciate the Zock, but it's still damn goofy. :-)

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>>15473673
>I do appreciate the Zock, but it's still damn goofy. :-)
DONT MOCK THE ZOCK

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>>15473673
delet

>>15473758
Add shine to the monoeyes!

>>15471600
Officer's weapon.

>>15469862
It's more like Genji's shuriken.

>>15470429
>nipples are eyes
>crotch is a giant yellow toothed grinning bikini

>>15473441
Well there's gonna be the Guncannon Aqua, and the redesigns of the old Zeke stuff in the next episode of Thunderbolt or too, plus Atlas which is amphbious.

Also apparently the Gundam local type (The RX-78-01 [N] not the RX-78 [N]) is amphbious too and became the aquatic Gundam.

>"The ocean is boring as fuck. Outer space is awesome!"
>"But by definition, there's nothing in space, as it is literally empty space. Meanwhile the ocean actually has stuff in it, like fish, sea monsters, various resources to collect, aquatic flora, etc. Probably less of a pain to build stuff in it, too."
>"SHUT UP FAGGOT, THE OCEAN IS BORING. SPACE IS BETTER."
>"... Okay, why?"
>"Because it's SPACE."
Every fucking time.

>>15467781

It's also immune to conventional ordnance isn't it?

I remember regular tank fire doing jack all to the thing's hull armor.

>>15474715
Go Nagai was the only notable one to give a fuck, and nobody noticed.

Did it ever mention how effective any of the aquatic mobile suits were at Jaburo or how much damage they caused?

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>>15476275
They would have destroyed all of the GMs and won the war if it wasn't just for three kids, the grandest and most important heroes of the one year war.

>>15476322
It's too bad Katz grew up into such a little shit. Letz and Kikka seemed nice when they were older, though.

>>15473673
Zock BTFO

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>>15476337
I wouldn't say so, for all anon mocks the Zock it still has a medley of advantages and strengths that make it a decent suit. It's like anon sez, you can appreciate it but it's still goofy don't mock the zock

>>15476322

So GMs couldn't do much against them?

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>>15467872
What are you on? Gundam shows older models being effective all the time. Have you even watched UC shows, 00 or even G Gundam?

>>15477009

>Gundam shows older models being effective all the time.

In some cases isn't the older stuff miles ahead of "new" equipment?

I remember in IBO that the Gundam frames and Mobile Armors are practically museum pieces age wise, yet they're far in advance of current equipment.

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So what is the rarest amphibious Mobile Suit that one would find and which is the most common?

I notice Zocks and Goggs are rarely seen while Capules, Kapools, and Zogoks and Z'goks are seen quite often.

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>>15468171

The Thunderbolt Gogg looks a bit like it was built with parts from a Dom.

Also, are the Iron Nails a cheap and efficient weapon for a Mobile Suit?

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HYGOGGGGGGGG

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>>15478223
>Also, are the Iron Nails a cheap and efficient weapon for a Mobile Suit?
Depends on what the writer feels like. MSV-R Johnny Ridden manga claims they're shitty.

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>>15478778

>>15467056
>blocks beam saber with its hand
I had no idea that Kira Yamato appeared in Unicorn.

>>15467035
FINGER FIREPOWER TURNING FEDDIES INTO SLAG
IN MY MSM-04G J-JUAGG

>>15478778
>>15478786
Yeah it's why the Z'gok ram was a thing. Also MSV-R.

I kinda like that he didn't shit on the claws against MS, but against ships, which makes some sense I guess, but it was neat he kept it inline with the fact that we see them stabbing the fuck out of GM's in 0079.

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>>15479130
>feddie ship hulls are stronger than luna titanium

>>15479136
Nah it's just thick or some shit and they get stuck after getting in there...

I mean it's neat, never said it made complete sense, just some.

>>15479136
>I can poke through cardboard with a knife
>omg wtf hax why can't I pierce this phone book in one stab

>>15479058

I'm even more surprised by the fact there is a beam saber sticking through a Capule in that same video.

>>15480726
It's not as though the armor and machinery inside are made of butter, so it offers some resistance to the beam sabre's heat. Given a bit of time the metal surrounding the beam sabre blade will heat up and melt away so the blade will eventually fall down, but it's not exactly instant, but it won't last a long time either.

>>15480732

So, functionally, it like a heat blade then?

>>15480817
Obviously Gundam sometimes plays fast and loose with technology, but yes, you could argue that beam sabers would act like stronger heat blades. Wouldn't be the first tiem someone stuck a beam saber in something and it just decided to hang out there for a bit.

>>15467765
Zogok looks cool, but it's honestly the one that feels the least aquatic

>>15467475
FUCK

>>15478778
Any one who uses problematic in a translation needs to be shot. It's fucking disgusting and a sign of poor language skills.

There is MSV to fix this problem, it's a Ram Z'gok if I recall which has shield punching claws it can detach so it doesn't die when the shit it hits explodes

>>15484020
>There is MSV to fix this problem, it's a Ram Z'gok if I recall which has shield punching claws it can detach so it doesn't die when the shit it hits explodes
Yes, it's literally referred to there. It says MSM-07N. Those pages are just explaining why they decided to build the MSM-07N.

>>15482141

I kind of want a version of the Zogok that has the Zeong finger beam cannons.

It probably wouldn't be all that great, but it'd be funny to see the look on some GM pilots face when a Zogok starts firing beams and bommerangs at them.

>>15484020

>if I recall which has shield punching claws it can detach so it doesn't die when the shit it hits explodes

Is that even an issue most of the time?

The last time I saw a sub take a hit, it was broken in half and simply sunk without an explosion.

Granted however, that was the Shamblo and not a simple Mobile Suit.

>>15484020
I didn't quite catch the problem. What exactly makes problematic a sign of bad language skills?

>>15467056
>blocking the beam sabre with its hand at 0:25

Even with anti-beam coating that's some serious bullshit.

>>15487374
juaggu are the strongest race in the world

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Z'Gok Es are the most aesthetic of them all

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>>15467035

Did they ever introduce any underwater psycommu machines other than this Grublo variant?

>>15487844
this. A shame the HGUC is so dated

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>>15491219
Nope that's pretty much it.

Here though someone made a Psycommuguy as I call it.

>>15491261

Impressive.

>>15491270
Once it's mass produced Zeon will rule the oceans.

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>>15467080
We can go THICCER

>>15491431

That's a Zock?

How is that even still a Mobile Suit?

And is that diagram implying that it can carry Mobile Suits in it's legs or maneuvering system there?

>>15491431
zeon suits are getting out of hand

>>15491431
Wait, does it store zakus inside of its legs or is that just for size comparison?

>>15491474
>>15492485
>>15492473
Zakus have become so easily mass produced they are now ammunition. Now we just need to figure how to do it with the big zam.

>>15491261
>that slightly disturbing, but also cute snout antennae

It seems to be something of a tradition for Acguy MSVs to be somewhere in the uncanny valley.

>>15491474
>>15492485

No idea if it carries them, I just saw it yesterday looking shit up to post.

>>15492473
Don't mock the Zock.

>>15493039
You'll probably see it in the next episode of Thunderbolt.

>>15491261

Well that's certainly something to consider if build fighters is ever renewed for a new series.

Or if the MSV is ever given a series.

>>15493044
Unless they change it, no, it's just the Acguy's in this.

Then again they jumbled the order up (I assume to show off Atlas more first) to begin with so maybe it'll sneak in.

IDK if the Zock's even appeared in the Manga yet.

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>>15491431

I wonder if they'll introduce an Adzam next.

>>15473467
heck I vaguely remember reading somewhere that the Capule/Kapool is basically a modified unbuilt OYW design

>>15491219
well there's the Shamblo, beyond that the only other example I can think of is a non-UC variant of the Zeong made for underwater combat, which is shown in >>15478214

>>15492485
>>15491474
no idea about Zakus, but the Thunderbolt Zock can carry an Acguy in each of those legs, since the Thunderbolt version of the Acguy is like half the size of the standard version

>>15496296
honestly I'm kinda surprised we haven't seen an aquatic version of the Adzam by this point(although the Adzam has surprisingly few variants)

>>15478223
the Gogg was developed by Zimmad, the same company that built the Dom/Rick Dom(so not all that surprising that there's some shared aesthetics between the two), besides the Gogg, Hygogg, and the MSM-02 Hydro Test Type, the other aquatic units Zeon had came from other companies;

Zimmad

MSM-02 Hydro Test Type
Gogg
Hygogg


Zeonic

Agg
Zaku Marine Type
Acguy
Agguguy
Juaggu


MIP

Grublo
Z'Gok
Zogok

>>15473467

> Zanscare develop a few aquatic suits

Theirs are kind of lack luster though.

Zeon really had something with their aquatic/amphibious suits. Weird as they were, they were frighteningly effective against pretty much anything that wasn't piloted by an autistic teenager or a ballsy soldier flying a Frankenstein rig.

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>>15496436
>Zaku Marine type

You know what annoys me about this thing? It's not the Marine type, but the Mariner, that the feddies made after the war based on it.

The federation has the means to base their aquatic MS after any of the Zeon ones, and they go for arguably the worst one, I mean yeah it's an improvement (and it looks good) but come on, may as well just make more GM Aquas.

>>15498454
Probably because it was the most conservative and versatile Zeon design, most similar to their GMs and such than the other Zeon amphibious suits. They probably wanted a suit with regular manipulators for flexibility with various weapons systems. This is the common thinking of a peacetime military, they favor versatility over specialization in order to be able to downsize their military without losing capability.

>>15498518
That makes sense actually.

Plus it's a fucking Zaku has to be piss easy to repair and build. (And it's not like they didn't use other Zaku variants like the Act Zaku)

>>15498531
Early databooks even said Hizacks were Zakus refurbished by the Federation, unlike today's fluff that says it's a brand new MS jointly developed by Federation and AE.

>>15498802

I find it amazing no one mistook the Hizack for a Zaku and accidentally shot one down.

>>15498454
apparently Neo Zeon/Zeon Remnants stole all of that model(and the Zaku Diver variant) during Haman's invasion of Earth, which is why we never see the Federation actually use any

>>15498802
>Early databooks even said Hizacks were Zakus refurbished by the Federation, unlike today's fluff that says it's a brand new MS jointly developed by Federation and AE.
honestly I'm surprised they never had it be the same situation as the GM II/III where it's both a new suit and an upgrade for the existing original models

>>15478223
Isn't that the Prototype Gogg?

>>15500127

There was a prototype seen?

>>15498454
I'm just pissed they didn't call it the AquaZak

>>15500127
nope that's just what the Gogg looks like in Thunderbolt

Are we ever going to get a mecha series that focuses on aquatic machines? Or are creators and audiences just too narrow minded?

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>>15499643
>they're zakus so they have to be with zeon
will sunrise ever stop this garbage

>>15499151
>I find it amazing no one mistook the Hizack for a Zaku and accidentally shot one down.

Pilots (and flight crews) don't visually identify mobile suits. They have targeting computers that tell them which MS it is.

>>15503233
There isn't anything interesting underwater that you can do with mechs that Submarine can't do.

>>15504155
>implying submarines have arms and legs
>implying submarines can go into smaller spaces
>implying submarines can excavate undersea treasure
>implying submarines can use mounted pump jets to dodge incoming attacks
>implying a submarine can more effectively fight a sea monster than a mech could
You could easily make the same argument for any story with mechs in it. "Mechs are unnecessary, just use X to do the same job!"

Your lack of imagination is offensive, you boring sack of shit. Seriously, if you're gonna be that guy, just fuck off, since you have no reason to be here anyway.

>>15503240

That is how it should be isn't it? The Zaku is kind of iconic for Zeon.

>>15496436

With so many manufacturers producing things, I think I'm beginning to understand why M'Quve had to standardize things.

>>15467035
Zeon aquatic mobile suits were super beastly.

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>>15501920
It's a MSV.

>>15478214
You hardly ever see hygoggs despite them being ten times cooler than capules.

>>15507913
>Hygogg
>Coooler than Capule

Philistine.

>>15477755. Not rally. Gundams of IBO are monsters by virtue of raw reactor output and superior controlling interface. Mass produced suits couldn't compete because they were pretty much modern IFVs while Gundams were few generations old main battle tanks.
Also, consider cost of putting. Gundam frame on the field - they are expensive to maintain and use while modern Graze was cheap per unit and as such could be mass deployed.

>>15507913

I thought the Hygogg would have been quite common given it's on of the things to come out of that standardization of parts business.

http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/United_Maintenance_Plan

>>15510120
Nope, too late in the war and shortly after we see it in 0080 Zeon gets b& from Earth. Following this logic it's easy to see that you'll find a lot more CB-developed aquatics and aquatic prototypes than you will UMP aquatics.

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>>15507913
>hygoggs despite them being ten times cooler than capules.

cooler sure, but not cuter, cute is the deal breaker for aquatic MS you dimple.