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Is Valvrave The Liberator good?

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Is Valvrave The Liberator good?
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>>15444533
It's fun
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>>15444533
No, but it sure was a wild ride
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Are you asking from an objective standpoint, or are you asking if it can be an good time to watch?
Because the answer to the first is no, but the answer to the second can be yes based on your taste.
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>>15444533
Yes, its the best anime of the decade so far.
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>>15444533
I liked the Hikikomori girl.
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>>15444550
So, it is a "So bad it's so good" series like School Days or Garzey's Wing?
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>>15444533
It's one of the better Gundam AUs out there, actually.

It also has about as much shitposting surrounding it as the average gendum anyway.
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>>15444533
It's as good as these
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>>15444533
Absolutely not, but for at least the first half it's that wonderful kind of shit where every episode is filled with some new kind of ridiculous bullshit. It tapers off on the insanity later, but that first cour was worth every minute.
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>>15444550
>implying /m/ has any objectivity when it comes to Korean slideshows

/m/ makes hipsters look like conformists.
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>>15444556
I'm not in a camp of believing in things like watching "ironically" or so bad it's good. People just enjoy things without real logic from my experience. I'll explain, it was a great show to watch while it was airing because the plot knee jerks around leading to unexpected twists. This made the threads for it great when it was airing. It also doesn't itself seriously at times and does at others which makes it kind of weirs. Second season tries to play itself a lot more seriously than the first. Basically what I'm getting at is give it a try and decided. See if you can find the GG subs, if you're here for shits and giggles.
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It's boku janai.
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>>15444562
>valvrave
>as good as Zeta
this meme has gone too far
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>>15444595
Would advise against the gg memesubs unless you're fully aware that you're getting memes over accuracy.

Then again in terms of available options it's either their subs on BD rips, or broadcast rips with more accurate subs from HorribleSubs.

And I don't think the latter ever arranged batches for the show.

It's kinda fucked up but hey that's the cost of 2013 meme culture.
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>>15444565
This
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>>15444533
Valvrave essentially tries to be Code Geass, with its ridiculous break neck plot twist, general insanity and melodrama. Its not good though. Fun at the time and season 2 does try to be more straightforward.

I say watch a couple episodes and see what you think. Pretty sure there are some Cruncyroll rips from Horrible Subs around.
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>>15444625
At least people remember it. Guilty Crown tried the same type of game and people almost never mention it anymore.
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>>15444640
Actually I hear people mention guilty crown all the time. Of course, it's always in the context of "shows that went downhill," but they still mention it
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>>15444640
Well for one GC doesn't have a forced meme driving it, it just has
>SZO EVERYTANG DAT MAKEZ ME WHORE

GC can't begin to compete with the meme complex that keeps Valvrave relevant on /m/, and this was a show about a kid who unleashed an unspeakable evil because he wouldn't fuck his sister more or less.

And another thing, you really want people to remember GC and never stop never stopping about what happens in the second half? Because I for one don't want to relive those goddamn threads again.
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>>15444562
but those shows are pretty good.
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>>15444562
>VVV
>as awful as Zeta
Let's not say shit we can't take back now.
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>>15444655
>and this was a show about a kid who unleashed an unspeakable evil because he wouldn't fuck his sister
Soultaker?
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>>15445767
No but seriously, Guilty Crown is a show about how Japanese cancer Jesus unleashed a crystal cancer apocalypse because he didn't plow his hot sister who was totally hitting on him at the time.

Though in his defense if he did do the nasty it'd have likely unleashed a crystal cancer apocalypse anyway.

The crystal cancer apocalypse endgame was going to happen one way or another, really.
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>>15445791
>turning down hot sister incest
Are you sure he's Japanese?
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Don't expect to know who the kids is if you do watch it. I watched some of it just because I heard episode 10 was wild, and at the end, best girl got shafted.

So if you do watch it and finish it, read the final chapter of the manga afterwards.
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I want to believe they were going somewhere with the story but had to cut down on the number of episodes due to unpopularity but it was still a mess for the first cour and an even bigger rushed mess in the second. The only good came out of the rape scene and /m/'s reaction
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>>15445901
And nothing came out of the rape scene. We still don't know if Haruto feelings had changed for the girls outside of his homolust for L-elf.
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>>15445901
>"expose the truth"
>"the system that will reveal the truth"
>every time someone lies the world goes to shit somehow

All things considered I think it stuck the landing in the end, even with the utterly ridiculous per-week pacing.

There was definitely a beginning and end planned, the journey may have been retooled along the way but there were checkpoints in place.
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>>15444533
Honest answer: It's a meme show. I don't think it holds any value in Marathoning it. If you didn't watch it and shitpost about it it, you missed most of the fun the show provides.
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>>15445944
>Geass had a plan
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>>15445944
>Geass had a plan
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anon that posted in a VVV thread some days ago if you are here do you have the page that came before this one? It has VVV1 lineart
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>>15444533
S1 is terrible and terribly fantastic. S2 is really fucking boring. The entire show isn't really "good" but at least the first part is fun.
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>>15444640
Cripple girl was cute as fuck at least.
Valvrave had no cute girls
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>>15446276
>liking fastwheels

Real plebeian taste right there, friend.
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>>15446276
Akira
Saki
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>>15446395
Neet/Otaku bitches are always shit.Saki was a annoying clingy cunt throughout the show.
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Define good
Haphazard pacing? Nonsensical plot? Inconsistent characters?
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>>15444562
Wouldn't Valvrave be the Valvrave of the 10s?
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Is El Elfo still posting here?
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There should have been more akira. Less everyone else
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>>15447341
The fuck you going on about?
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>>15444533
If you're into Code Geass and Cross Ange style wild ride trainwreck shows then it's ok but not as good as the mentioned
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>>15444562
>the Valvrave of each decade
>Valvrave is not in the pic
try harder
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>>15447341
That kind of attitude lead to some guy screaming automatically for hours at a simple image dump. Don't be that guy.
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>>15447604
Oops. Mean for >>15447341
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Poor's men Code Geass.
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>>15447604
>>15447608
but you did reply to that post. Don't get why you made the second post.
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Why was saki fighting a cow mecha? Who was the mother of the elfo chile?
Is humanity fucked at the end? Space vampire kids still hunted by humans?
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>>15447930

Respectively:

Somewhere between remnants of the collaborators to the Council of 101's conspiracy and those Dorssians who favored the Amadeus regime even if they didn't know about the Council conspiracy lies a reasonable source of animosity towards New JIOR and the V-Team/Golden Seven.

That's a story for another time.

They get better, but again the dismantling of the existing world order means that some people are not happy a bunch of kids cost them their cushy positions of power. It's understood that the three major space powers are being led by people either more reasonable than their predecessors (A-Drei vs Amadeus), are willing to play ball to escape their predicament (ARUS president Anderson, who wanted out of the Council conspiracy the moment the opportunity presented itself), or are the only ones willing and able to serve the job (Shoko, whom after kinda throwing her protectors under the bus real hard is pretty much devoted to being a better leader and all that melodramatic shit, and eventually ends up taking a literal commander in chief role what with the reveal of her being the next Hito pilot), and so the political situation between the Council purge and the future epilogue is shaky but noticeably improved over where it was before, because each faction ultimately learned to trust and cooperate with one another rather than immediately backstab and regress into mistrust.

Consequently, the only ones hunting down New JIOR would be anyone with a bone to pick with the kids, which boils down to any remnant collaborators of the Council of 101, or any pro-Amadeus Dorssians butthurt about the Royalists taking over. That the V-Team ultimately becomes known as the Golden Seven should suggest that they've become famous for their exploits one way or another, so it's highly unlikely all of Earth wants to wipe them out considering that they fucking dismantled an ancient conspiracy at great cost to their own like something out of a heroic legend.
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>>15447930
I love the fact that we have no idea who the kid is. Would have been funny if it was actually Haruto and Saki's kid, but it probably wasn't.
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Gundam and Geass did everything better.
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El Elfo please I need to talk to you
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>>15444562
You forgot the Valvrave of the 70's.
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>>15447930
>>15448060
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anyone has BD scans after vol 7?
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>>15446167
Woah hold on, someone ripped and scanned these?
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>>15446167
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>>15449681
How could they even get Haruto's semen when Haruto was long dead?
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>>15450267
Saki rape
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>>15450568
You mean she got pregnant? There is no other explanation.
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>>15449927
The whole book is on e-hentai

>>15450627
You can come up with a explanation that makes more sense using the show's rune lore than "Saki was pregnant for 200 years."
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>>15450885
link to the book please
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>>15450897
I'll spoonfeed you only this time anon.

https://e-hentai.org/g/1030773/091190924f/
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>>15450902
thanks found the full torrent

[SCAN] Valvrave Designer's Note

https://ehtracker.org/get/1030773/4a2685985f1150fbab494d499b847504d532d199.torrent
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>>15451093
I more got the impression that Pino raped both Haruto and Saki in that scene.
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>>15451105
>pino
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>>15444533
>Is Valvrave The Liberator good?

Yep!
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>>15451157
Nope. It's not good or fun.
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>>15451160
Don't listen to this downer. Valvrave is a masterpiece.
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>>15451157
>>15451160
>>15451186
stop replying to yourself autist
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>>15450885
>>15450902
>>15450909
Thanks man, awesome stuff.
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Just started watching it thanks to this thread, and I love it. That rape scene was fucking amazing.
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>>15453634
It wasn't rape.
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>>15444565
I liked the first cour. The second one then became pretty grimdark for no reason. Haruto never gets better and Shoko gets worse.
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>>15454354
>for no reason

You think space vampirism is a motherfucking game, son?

Oh sure jacking bodies and never aging is nice but then you rape a bitch and run afoul of an ancient conspiracy willing to commit warcrimes to steal your giant robot superscience.
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>>15446276
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BD SCANS:

Vol 8: http://www.mediafire.com/file/j76n7njm8oosk41/VVVBD8scans.rar

Vol 9: http://www.mediafire.com/file/7xv6gokwb03c654/VVVBD9+Scans.rar
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>>15456031
Uh this was unexpected.

Thanks I guess
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[SCAN] Valvrave Fan Book:


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>>15457922
Thanks a lot!
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>>15444640
Not-rape scenes are pretty memorable desu.

Aldnoah Zero also seemed like it wanted to be Code Geass, but never got as close as Valvrave.
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>>15444533
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