Hey /m/, I'm looking to get into Macross. Where should I

>>15443849
If you don't mind dated and somewhat bad animation, start at the original. Frontier is a fine starting place, but it's better if you've seen the older series

Original unless your a faggot.

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>>15443858
Okay, I'll check out the original first. I've also been told you expect a lot of singing, which seems weird because there's no air in space (?)

>>15443863
You don't hear singing, you feel it in your heart like FIRE! melting ice.

>>15443863
Yeah, they sing on spaceships and planets, not in space itself.

>>15443863
>>15443881

In addition to this, the few scenes that are there of characters exposed to a vacuum the sound does cut out beyond comm chatter that I recall. Things like Kakizaki blowing a hull open so Britai can be exposed and Hikaru, Kakizaki, Max and Misa escaping in a battle pod include a lack of music or background sound.

>>15443849
Production order, faggot. And just watch it, stop having opinions spoon-fed to you. You're just going to end up with a lot of shitposting and bait.

>>15444159
That will happen regardless

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>>15443863

I happened to make a couple of webms of SDF last night and not wishing to make a new thread just for them I'm going to dump them here. I kind of hope you don't play any of them in a way, but my mental excuse for posting is that it might convince you to watch one of my favorite shows I guess. Either way, commence dump.

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>>15444307

If anyone has anything from the show they want webm'd by the way, just give me some vague episode details or whatever and I'm happy to do it. I have all of SDF, DYRL, Plus, 7, Zero and Frontier to pull from if you want some from other Macross works.

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>>15443881
We both know that's not true

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>>15444326
Even he does so only once and he had Sivil keeping him from being exposed to vacuum.

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>>15444313
Can you do the Macross Attack from the last episode of Frontier? That shit was great.

>>15444391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slqa30DSSKE

>>15444397
Huh, dunno how I missed that. Thanks anon

>>15444313

Gamlin and Mylene's tussle with the dinosaur family from episode 35. Easily the best fight scene from that series.

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>>15444391
>>15444397

I made one of it anyway, just in case you still want it as a webm specifically.

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>>15444544

I had to make it pretty small and decrease the quality to get even this much in, but I tried.

>>15443849
Don't do it anon Macross is trash

>>15444728

Your effort is greatly appreciated nonetheless, thanks a bunch anon!

>>15444794
Like everything else

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>>15443858
>somewhat bad animation,
I'll kill you for that slander. SDF had amazing animation and has aged gracefully!

7 is the only good Macross (and it still flawed).

>>15443849
>Where should I start?
If you want to get into the franchise lore, you'd have to get watch pretty much everything in production order.

>A friend strongly suggested Frontier.
Macross F shines because of its production value. However the story is simplistic melodrama and the characters are generic anime archetypes which makes the whole thing pretty predictable if you've seen enough anime before watching but if you're a casual that doesn't mind such things, you'll love it. Regardless, I think the Macross F movie adaptions are a must-watch for the franchise and I consider it a superior substitution for watching the TV version.
I wouldn't recommend jumping off from Frontier, though. There's a whole lot of back story which explains the setting of the show by giving it context and it introduces new ideas that aren't seen in other entries before it.

>Also, general thoughts on Macross so I know what I'm getting into?
Music, pop idols, love triangles involving said pop idols, and transforming space robots.
Macross II is not considered canon to the franchise, so you can watch it or skip it or come back to it some other time.
Macross 7 is a can be a slog to get though mostly because of how repetitive it is. Even though it probably has the best music compilation in the franchise, it gets annoying when you hear the same song sung by the characters 3 times per episode. Also the use of stock footage is very abundant and the mecha fights play out the same over and over. you can try watching the compilation movie in which the cast from Frontier watches Macross 7 on VHS, but the editing is so terrible that it can be difficult to piece together what is happening.

>I'm not totally sure this is the right board to ask,
It is.

>but everyone says /m/ is the best slow board.
Lies. /m/ is just as full of autistic shitposting manchildren as any other board. /m/ is just /a/ + /tv/ with an inclination towards sci-fi.

>>15443849
It all ends in Frontier. Feel free to watch the 30aniversary game tho.

>>15443849
Nobody noticed the Pizza Hut logo?

>>15448881
No, nobody cared because it's not notable

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So does Frontier get better or will they keep strapping shit on Valkyries to make them ugly? I want to watch it for the better animation because SDF has me tired out after half of it.

Is Zero worth a watch?

Also what is Delta? Some other Anon told me to steer well clear of it.

>>15443849
Started with Plus, it's pretty great even if the characters are shitheads. A large chunk of it is basically the F22 vs YV23 trials in mech form. The ending and what leads to that is a bit unnecessary though. I feel they couldve just shown the trials.

But it has the VF-21 which is beautiful Except for the shit controls and COFFIN cockpit

>>15449721
You didn't watch 7, did you?

>>15449730
I wanted to avoid people singing at monsters with JRock for as long as possible. Even if it has 22s in it.

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>>15449737
Drop Macross and stick to Robotech.

>>15449751
As catchy as some of the stuff is, I just couldn't bring myself to like the character or mech design of the band tho.

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>>15449762
If these two videos don't convince you to give M7 a try, there's no hope for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_37_-6GzbQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J79O5mEjcZ0&t=161s

>>15449721
Zero has neat animation but like Plus, characters are shitheads but worse. In Plus Isamu was at least a pro. Shin from Zero doesn't kill anyone but it's still a decent watch.

Delta is the latest Macross show but certainly not the last according to recent news. It's like 7 but conceptually better. It has singing and mechs working closely together like in 7 only this time pilots are pilots and singers are singers. First half is good but second half is crap. I'd still watch it though, it's not necessarily bad but it's disappointing and that hurts a lot.

>>15449826
These are from the OVA eps you shithead. Different animal from the slog of the tv show.
>>15449762
There's nothing really wrong with skipping it sense it's a 50 ep shitfest of reused animation and dated rock music. People will constantly parrot that the final battle is the best but it isn't, many things are not resolved by the end and the battle itself is just more singing than fighting. It's really not that good. Even Kawamori thought it was retarded and he's not exactly sane either.

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>>15444316
That disguise was top tier.

>>15449830
How the fuck can you be worse than Isamu and Guld?

>>15449830
>It has singing and mechs working closely together like in 7 only this time pilots are pilots and singers are singers.
I can tell you never actually watched 7.

>>15449841
>OVA's are compelety different from the TV show
they're the same thing but with a bit more budget though.

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>>15449867
Isamu and Guld had personalities with positive and negative traits.

Shin is basically a nothing, no personality what so ever.

Would still recommend Zero because the CG has aged incredibly well (barring the 1st episode), Mao is a cutie, and the VF-0 and Sv.51 are sexy.

>>15449888
It's a shame we didnt get to see more of the Slavshit.

It's also a shame that they are atmo only in the games.

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>>15449902
I'm still hoping they'll adapt Macross: The ride some day.

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>>15443849
>Where should I start?

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>>15449909
>the plot is set in an air race competition
Holy fuck this is all I ever wanted.

Does this exist in english? And if so where?

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>>15449932
No english translation that I'm aware of.

>>15449981
What a shame. Still air racing with Valks sounds neat.

I'd imagine there would be stages for flying and running/hovering. Perhaps also some biatlon thing.

>>15449872
I can tell you're a fucking idiot because in 7 that was not the case. Basara, our main hero, was both a pilot and a singer who used guitar controls to pilot his state of the art space place while wearing the most goofiest space suit I have ever seen. Delta was more acceptable but alas it is crap.

>>15444722
>that moment when what about my star plays over lion
Damn, criticize fronier all you want, but the series knew how to make a scene.
If only Delta could've done that past it's 3rd episode.

>>15450270
Keep pretending you know what you're talking about.

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>>15449830

Shin kills 3 people in the engagement at the start of episode 1 alone. He kills another one or two in the battle in episode 3 and I think a few more in episode 5. He probably shoots down more than Isamu, since Plus was mostly either mock battles or battles against AI. Unless you meant named characters, in which case, neither did Isamu or Guld.

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>>15449867

He's not really. He starts out a stoic asshole pilot who's obviously afraid of emotional attachment, but has dropped that act by about half way through the episode when he finds out his co-pilot might be dead. He starts to attach to the Mayan people and forms a decent bond with Edgar (his co-pilot) and Roy Focker during the show, as well as starting to goof around with and for Sara (his love interest). He's not the most interesting character in the world, but he does have personality. Then again, I don't have a huge problem with Isamu or Guld either.

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>>15450975
>tfw Ultimate Frontier lets you play as the F-14
>the flight model is properly fucked up and it's barely flyable
>still feels great to shoot VFs with it.
CUM HISTORIA MUTAT VALDE, RAZGRIZ REVELAT IPSUM!

>>15450988
It was still neat to make him the top ace instead of Hikaru.

>characters
Isamu and Guld weren't bad characters for what they were, they were just not all that likeable. At least not when the lady was around IIRC.
Then again why she bothered with Guld at all after what he did is still beyond me, even if he suppressed it for himself.

Nevermind Gulds barely concealed attempts at murdering Isamu early on, while on a test program where shit would be monitored constantly.

But like said before, I might just be biased because I was hoping for more of the test program itself rather than the drama the finale was.

Because I was curious on how it looked animationwise and all I started an episode of Delta.

So is it just not pretending anymore and just straight up magical fighter pilots with what the singing does?

Really, DYRL and Plus are the best in the entire series. If you're looking for a place to start, start there.

It's all great though, so you could also start with the original series. Up to you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH1V2GOg3U8

Can someone tell me what part of the OST the happy music is that plays when he's drawing the bird?

>>15450975
He can barely fight against named pilots. Couldn't beat Roy, Nora, or Ivanov.

>>15451104
Delta is not magical. Nearly everything magical about it is explained with technology and biology gibberish.

>>15451247
Sounds like magic to me

>>15451184
its called fly up in the air

>>15451256
>technology
>biology
>still says magical
Doesn't make sense but whatever you say, anon.

>>15451247
We both know what I meant. It's not magic but it might as well be because they are singing to buff shit or whatever.

Was honestly just looking for an excuse to say Magical Fighter Pilot.

>>15451274
Thanks.

>>15451289
Nothing of what of you said makes sense either, retard.

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>>15449888
what this faggot said

>>15451299
Macross 7 did the magic singing planes first though.
>>15451311
Neither of you make any sense. Macross has been magic since the 90s. Delta is shit but the magic isn't the reason why it's shit since it's been done several times before.

>>15451339
Well yeah but it didn't come with as much cutsey of a look in 7. But again, I've not seen either yet. I was just curious.

>it's shit
If anything it seems to have VF Drakens in it. So there's that at least.

>>15451360
Mylene was an even more annoying cutesy than anyone in Delta.

Drakens have shit characters as pilots though. The irony behind it is that they're the bad guys and they're the only faction with VFs that sport delta wings.

>>15451464
Does the VF-31A not count as a delta wing?

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>>15451464
>Mylene was an even more annoying cutesy than anyone in Delta.

First half of Delta > 7 > SDF > Second half of Delta >>>>>>>>>> Frontier

>>15451468
I think you might be the only one in this thread that unironically likes Mylene.

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>>15451026

Yea, Myung remaining friends (and possibly even banging) Guld is a bit weird. I can kind of justify it though, since she has self esteem issues and she may just value the friendship more than she hates what he'd done. What's even weirder to me though is that once Guld and Isamu hash out the truth it's basically immediately brushed off and they just crack a few jokes with each other and the whole plot line is resolved. A plot line that has been driving their relationship for the whole story. It just doesn't feel like a fitting pay off.

>>15451143

DYRL isn't worth watching until you have seen SDF Macross in my opinion. The film just cuts too many corners and compresses too much. It's an okay film, but it's mainly good for animation and I much prefer SDF Macross personally.

>>15451220

Not actually what anon said, but also not true. He doesn't fight Ivanov at all that I recall, and in the final episode is at least Nora's equal. Frankly, he seems slightly superior even. And this is after only a few days training in the VF-0. He's a plane pilot with a couple of training sessions during the time of the show under his belt facing off against experienced VF pilots.

>>15451467
>Grunts have delta wings but not MC.
Bravo Kawakawa.
>>15451471
Personally I'd go SDF>first half of Delta>Plus>7=Frontier>>>>Zero>second half of Delta>>>>II

It was a very good first half that didn't stoop too heavily towards cliches like Frontier and actually felt like it was going somewhere.

>>15451543
I am the second one. Also, M7 is the best Macross.

>>15451604
meh, M7 has some awesome songs , but the plot remains silly.
the concept , IMHO, is good , but got draged in the mud by it being a very long series , give it a 25 episode run , so you can avoid reussing footage , and maybe developing the protodeviln a little better , and then we could have a really REALLY good series, even including the music magic bullshit

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>>15451640
>silly

yeah fuck them, I want my chinese cartoons super serious! hard sci fi war doc with no fucking children protagonist

>>15451681

Even though this is an obvious strawman post, Zero is still the last decent thing to come out of this train wreck of a franchise. Only /a/utismal waifufags think otherwise.

>>15451681
i dont mean any of that, i mean how many fucking episodes the plot moved a micrometre?
even in their own established musical magic word sillines, there were many MANY silly filler episodes

>>15451697
VF-11's ejecting their cockpits and Grabil freaking out are more than enough for a satisfying episode, anon.

>>15451705
dont forget the girl with the flowers runing around hoping to bump into basara

>>15451681
There's a limit to the silliness. 7 as a follow up to SDF and Plus just doesn't feel right. The rockstar pilot is retarded, the love triangle is retarded, the designs of the giant monsters is goofy as hell, and whoever said it was a good idea to exceed 30 episodes needs to fucking die. I don't have anything against silly and goofy moments when there is no combat seeing how SDF was lighthearted and funny when it didn't focus on war and romantic drama. I enjoyed Plus less because it was overly edgy and stupid but still wasn't full on retarded at least. 7 as a whole was full on retarded. Although it isn't bad but it just doesn't feel right.

It's a shame too because it was the last project to use 2D animation which despite the autist fest of a story, seeing the VFs 1, 11, 17, 18, and 22 in 90s 2D animation is extremely charming. Here's to hoping Macross 2018 will be an OVA series that invests on 2D animation.

>>15451777
>Here's to hoping Macross 2018 will be an OVA series that invests on 2D animation.
As long as Satelight exist we will NEVER get a good looking Macross, I'm not even joking.
We must kill the Satelight.

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>>15444330
>arguably most important episode in the first 15 is animated like hannah and barbera on acids
I'll never get this.

>>15451784
Whoa whoa whoa relax, kiddo. We have to kill Harmony Gold first.

>>15443849
Frontier feels in many ways like a major step backwards from 7. The eponymous ship and all the "islands" it drags seems low-tech compared to a fleet of multiple domes each with their own destroyer seen in 7. The fact that they're not using sound boosters or the reverse engineered spirita draining lasers seems dumb. Even if sound boosters wouldn't repel or harm the Vajra, they're still extremely useful as a means of communicating by directly beaming your feelings to the aliens. If for some reason that failed, there is simply no way the Vajra could ever defend against the spiritia lasers. It's not like bullets where you can just grow better armor or reaction weapons where you grow a special layer to shield you from radiation. Yeah, Basara blocked it once, but it somehow looped around his Valkyrie's forearm and glanced him from the side. The music, love triangle, and military aspect also feel like separate things that have little bearing on each other. In SDF the music broadcasts were being picked up by Zentraedi and reducing their morale by convincing them there's more to life than fighting, which obviously affected their abilities in the military confrontations. The love triangle was not only affected by the military and music industry aspect, but it also affected them back. Minmei's singing wasn't as great or she lost motivation entirely, Misa's strategic competence was hindered by her emotional distress as was Hikaru's fighting ability. The three aspects are even more tightly intertwined in 7 to the point that it's nearly impossible to tell where one ends and the other two begin. In Frontier, it doesn't feel that way at all. Sheryl and Ranka get sad because Alto doesn't know who he truly loves, and then they just sing and he shoots the bugs like it never even happened. Having both his love interests be pop singers contributes to this divide.

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>>15451777
A fully 2D animated Macross is never happening again, not even for an OVA or movie.

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>>15452408
>The three aspects are even more tightly intertwined in 7 to the point that it's nearly impossible to tell where one ends and the other two begin.

I think that just means 7 is poorly written and directed. I'll never understand anons whho overthink the hell out of a ridiculous sequel like 7.
>>15452444
You made me sad.

>>15452444
2D's just a big meme anyway. For a lot of movies and OVAs as far back as the early 90s they actually just drew on top of simple CG mockups. I can't honestly call it tracing since it's not but it's not entirely genuine 2D either. A lot of the work that makes 2D illustrations difficult (maintaining proper perspective and scale) was reduced to almost nothing, at least for the complex scenes.

If Bandai went back and had interns just draw over Gundam: The Origin /m/ would go nuts even though everyone shits on it all the time.

>>15452505
>I think that just means 7 is poorly written and directed.
Having events and concepts in the plot actually connect to and influence each other is bad writing? Damn, I never knew till now!

>>15452521
Well done 3DCG can be every bit as good as well done 2D, but I still favor 2D because I admire the skill. Of course this only applies to mecha, I still think most fully 3DCG anime sucks ass when it comes to character animation.
>>15452505
Because M7 is fun, and tried to do new things for the series, while Frontier is just a rehash of SDF except with far less compelling enemies.

>>15452538

Does 3DCG take no skill to do well then?

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>>15452550
Yes, it takes skill.
I just personally prefer seeing drawings move rather than CG objects move.
Personal preference.

>>15452521
I wouldn't mind CG in Macross if they got it to look like Unicorn or Origin. I've noticed Macross over does it woth the fast, rapid movement for battroids in particular. Would be nice if they slowed it down so the robot fights actually feel like there's some grit to it.
>>15452538
Watching Basara sing to monsters numerous times isn't fun. I don't even dislike his songs, the idea of it all is just way too fucking stupid. Basara should not have been a pilot if he hates fighting so much.

>>15452572
See:
>>15449751

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>>15452550
>Origin
Origin looked like trash though, the motion and models looked awful and had no sense of weight or style to them. Bad choreography didn't help either.

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>>15452572
Macross is inherently stupid, it just hides it underneath a thin veneer of technobabble and vaguely plausbile looking fighter plane designs.

M7 just takes full advantage of that and gets rid of the pretence. M7 is the core of Macross (songs defeating the enemy, VF's, love triangle) turned up to eleven.

>>15452538
>Well done 3DCG can be every bit as good as well done 2D, but I still favor 2D because I admire the skill.
That's my point. A lot of high profile anime just draw over 3D thereby reducing the need for 2D skill.

>>15452591
can you point out some sources for this claim?

>>15452591
>A lot of high profile anime just draw over 3D
They don't even do that.

>>15452584
>origin is bad but this is good
I seriously hope you don't think that

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>>15452578
But I just said I liked the music. There's a limit to how retarded a Macross can be. 7 crossed the line with Basara. Just leave the planes to pilots who have the balls to fight and kill.
>>15452584
Unicorn looked great at least. It should look like that.

>>15452595
Just be honest and say "i hate all CG no matter what" unless you can present some sort of example of what meets your standards.

>>15452599
>Unicorn looked great at least. It should look like that.
Yeah, but Unicorn wasn't CG except for a couple of shorts parts with the Gundams in the last episode or two and the transformations, plus random background MS that didn't get close-ups or fights in CG.

Plus it was a high budget OVA and all. Can't expect TV anime to be held to its standards.

>>15452599
>Just leave the planes to pilots who have the balls to fight and kill.
The UN Spacy literally barred him from flying his VF-19 for an episode, and it fucked them over because they lacked song power.

>>15452589
>turned up to eleven
And that just wasn't that enjoyable for some people.

>>15452599
Basara is a retard in an universe where his particular brand of retardation actually works though.

>>15452599
Gamlin pls

>>15452592
>>15452593
No specific source but any time there's perspective switches I guarantee you it's drawn over CG 99% of the time.

In order to draw it correctly by hand it would be immensely time consuming and you'd have to re-establish perspective for every key frame and most drawers probably couldn't do it, or at the least it would take them ages. To put into perspective how difficult that sort of thing is, the famous ballroom dance scene in Beauty and the Beast had the environment rendered in CG (i.e. with the correct perspective) and James Baxter animated Belle and the Beast in sync with the CG environment. He's a master of his craft and that's considered one of the prime examples of his mastery, even though for all intents and purposes the CG environment was there to assist him with the perspective (as opposed to drawing everything on his own). And it was for a Disney feature film, which they had significantly longer than even most anime films to produce.

You don't have to take my word for it but based on what I know any scene where the camera work gets tricky is probably CG assisted. Though that isn't to say other stuff isn't, but CG probably isn't needed for simple stuff like characters running perpendicular to the view. or something.

A few examples I found. I recall one of the more recent One Piece movies also having an obvious example.
http://imgur.com/gallery/gSwDM/new

>>15452589
>M7 is the core of Macross (songs defeating the enemy, VF's, love triangle) turned up to eleven.
Because VF's not piloted by Basara did so much work and the love triangle totally went somewhere, right? If anything only the song part was turned up to 11, the romance is a literal joke and the VF action is considered horrible and evil by our MC unlike SDF where the message was that fighting was completely necessary.

>that Marty Mcfly jacket
Man everything Basara wore to battle was pants on head retarded.

>>15452633
The VF action is still there though, no matter what Basara thinks of it.
Although your right, the triangle was pretty much non-existent, but then again this is for the better, who the hell watches Macross for the relationship drama?

>SDF, where the fighting was completely necessary
That wasn't the message of SDF at all.

>>15452639
Just because 7 had shit romance doesn't mean nobody cares anon. Most of the action went nowhere too.
>That wasn't the message of SDF at all.
Not the full message anyways. Culture is very important to our existence but if someone doesn't agree, we blow their shit up.

>>15452650
>but if someone doesn't agree, we blow their shit up
When has that ever worked in a Macross show?
Its always
>oh shit we tried blowing it up but it didn't work
>quick get the idol/idols/rock band

>>15452652
>>quick get the idol/idols/rock band
I'm still not sure how they went from BSG/Wing Commander to that.

Not that I would mind being soundtracked live in battle.

>>15452652
But blowing it up DID work in SDF. Zentradi weren't invincible to gunfire and before Minmay started singing for the final battle, almost half of the opposing fleet was obliterated by the UN's big cannon. Minmay's song was crucial to the final battle but you can't just pretend there weren't any VFs out there risking their life for what seemed like a ridiculous plan back then.

>>15452664
The SDF was about to get its shit pushed in when Minmei started singing.
I'm not arguing about the fact that the military serves an important role in Macross, but its almost always the singer that delivers the finishing blow to the antagonists.

>>15452668
But the Macross itself delivered the final blow. In DYRL, Hikaru does.

>>15452702
Which could only have happened with Minmei convincing half of the zentradi/the surviving meltrandi fleet to team up and tear Boddole Zer a new one. Without song power, the SDF would have been finished. This goes for the rest of Macross, without Basara overcoming the energy drain with TRY AGAIN, the universe would have been swallowed by the space vampire black hole, without Myung singing, Isamu would have been stopped by Sharon, without Ranka the Vajra wouldn't have stopped and moved to another galaxy, and so on. Really the only one that deviates from that formula is Zero, and even there the military solution fails, since Shin has to pull some UNDERSTANDING with Sara.

>>15452711
But what the Spacies did in 7 is minimal compared to what they did SDF. That's the problem here. Gamlin, Max, and Milia's efforts were kind of pointless because singing was the answer to everything. It wasn't a combined effort like SDF, it was all Basara.

>>15451681
The most ironic thing here is that those who bash M7 for being "silly" or "stupid" or "childish" probably think that M+ is serious war drama, as well as, say MSG.

>>15452847
7 wasn't good but Plus isn't great either. MCs are just as retarded and the romance is just as terrible. There's literally only a couple good songs too. It's just VF action turned up to 11.

>>15453089
>It's just VF action turned up to 11.

You're saying that like it's a bad thing.

>>15452847
>M+ is serious war drama
Nobody says this. There was no war in Plus.

>>15444313
Daedulus attack from SDF.

Please + Thank You.

>>15452572
>I've noticed Macross over does it woth the fast, rapid movement for battroids in particular. Would be nice if they slowed it down so the robot fights actually feel like there's some grit to it.

But the fast paced action is what makes the CG really shine, and made VF combat feel as speedy as it should. I loved shit like a battroid transforming into gerwalk purely because it evaded a shot aimed at the battroids head (that was no longer there) and then immediately switching back to continue the fight. In most anime, such a transformation would have 5 minutes of NPCs on the sidelines screaming about about how screwed the character is to build up "tension", followed by the action, followed by said NPCS all breathing a sigh of relief and and explaining the trick before we actually got the fight to continue again. In macross, this is just a blink and you'll miss it combat trick, and that's amazing.

Delta gave us slowed down fights. It wasn't gritty, it was just boring and samey as fuck. Every time it happened, it killed the flow of the battle and everything after the slowdown effect started might as well have been stock footage.

>>15453165
But Delta's battroid combat wasn't slow, it was as fast and rapid as Frontier. I'd like it to be as fast/slow as Plus' battroid combat where they actually punched or kicked each other. They're robots for fuck's sake, guns are not their only option. Which is funny for Delta's case because Hayate did kick and punch a few times before forgetting everything about the Immelmann dance and using his gun in the last episode.

>>15453186
>It's pro wrestling

>vajra fold bacteria lives in your intestines
That is fucking disgusting and I wonder who thought that was a good idea. Given the way Rank's abdomen glowed and she clutched it in pain, I thought she was pregnant and gonna start laying eggs or something.

>>15453685
>That is fucking disgusting

you know there are all kinds of shit lving inside you

>>15453695
And none of it talks.

>>15453698
Well, if it did, maybe I'd finally have some friends.

>>15453685
>Fold bacteria are the midichlorians of Macross.

Why does mecha insist on ripping even the shittiest parts of Star Wars?

>>15443849
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>>15453812
>shitty
Get some taste Anon.

>>15452444
What is this from?

>>15453873
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFF_YAzMpw4&feature=youtu.be

No clue what the context is, but here's the vid.

SDF Macross is really excellent, just the right amount of episodes and a pretty satisfactory ending (best girl won, after all). Followed up immediately with DYRL and it's all gravy.

>>15453936
On Ep 15 or 16 as is and kinda burnt out. What can I expect from the second half?

Just started Macross 7 episode 1. I'm already pissed off at the fact that Basara has a VF standing around for no reason(I also fucking hate the lips on it). And just like modern day Macross, the UN is as incompetent as ever. Fantastic way to start, guys.

>>15453962
>hate the lips on it
You're not the only one.

>UN as incompetent as ever
Well damn I thought that was just a Frontier thing so they could hype up that PMC.

>>15453936
>just the right amount of episodes

I felt that they could have done without the last ten or so episodes. I'm glad that they wrapped up the love triangle, but it made all those involved look like idiots.

Also,
>listening to music and "Holu Lonely Night" comes up on my playlist.
Nice.

>>15453972
Never understood the need to lionize PMCs and antagonize NUNS when PMCs do shit for money while military guys fight for their country or family.

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>>15453146

I had to edit the scene a little more than I'd like, and it's tiny to get the whole thing in but I got all the important parts. I love how shocked Claudia and Misa are at how effective the plan is at the end.

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>>15454140

Bonus, I was initially looking in episode 27, not realizing you meant the first Daedalus Attack and that I'd already made one from the show's (intended) finale, and found this scene - which I think is pretty fun.

>>15454132
PMC's aren't hampered by the same rules governing a top heavy bureaucracy. In Frontier for example, when that shitter Leon keikaku's the President and took over the government, SMS told him to fuck off.

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Attention Macross fans, you just got BTFO!

>>15454578
Is this traced

>>15444794

Aren't we all?

>>15454715
Yes

Non-burger here, cann someone redpill me on Robotech/Macross? As in what the hell happened for these to somehow split into two different series.

>>15455262
Google it.

>>15455262
Robotech is an amalgamation of three separate series combined into one. Macross is one of those three shows that was chosen to make Robotech.

>>15444313
I'm going to have fun with this one on /k/.

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>>15454578
I think it is traced. http://theschell.deviantart.com/gallery/46269796/Macross-Images

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Sorry for the potato quality, but I just saw that Ozma's driving a Lancia Delta.

Looks like he has good taste in cars at least.

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>>15454578

>>15456390
Why are egg-planes allowed to exist in this timeline?

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>>15454578
The guy in the VF looks familiar.

>>15456410
They are cute. Chibi navy ships too.

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>>15456452
But Anon, this is what a chibi plane should look like.

>>15451471
I agree with this, though I would switch Frontier and second half of Delta. First half of Delta was fucking brilliant. How did they drop the ball so hard?

>>15456506
Plans for a movie fell pretty hard, so the show had to pick up the pieces.

>>15456553
>>15456506
Without spoilers, what happens that makes the second half shit?

>>15456561
Windmere-wank, really poor resolution to the "broken" triangle, nothing known about Lady M, idols that aren't Freyja and Mikumo don't matter, Allahu Akbar.

>>15456561
2 things
1st was Kawamori bailed after ep 13 to go work on some Chinese backed project
2nd is no one had planed out anything past the first half so everyone acted like idiots and went full shit tier writing. They teased you with something really good more than once in a few episodes then instead of delivering on what they showed you they instead gave you a turd for the answer

And also Windmere wank so bad you'd swear they were trying to go full zeon with the wank

>>15456561
Take a shot every time a character says the word "wind" or "apple."

>>15456561
No more Immelmann Dance.

Is Walkure ded?

>>15458332
Yes.