Does anyone want to have an Armored Core thread? What are your

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>>15411793
Aaliyah is a masterpiece, remove Lahire.

>>15411793
Dual face

Also you mean plamo. Gunpla is a portmanteau of Gundam & Plamo.

>>15411821
right.
dual face was a bitch when i was a kid.

>>15411815
too bad the model kit can't do that pose.

>>15411793
ACV/VD designs. AC4 and fa tend to get the spotlight, but tiny tanks jumping around and rumbling down a street has always been a thing for me.

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Rented the hell out of this game. Also own the action figure of this design

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>>15412281
personally i think some of the machines in acv take the cool, eastern-looking contrasts they had in ac4 and kind of squash the mechs, make certain parts too bulky, etc. the pic in the OP i posted is my favorite mech aesthetic but then there's this shit and it really just rubs me the wrong way.
all of that said, i can see where you're coming from and why you'd think it's cool. different strokes.
>>15412709
pretty good game. i like the original ac2 for the arena.

>>15412709
>Also own the action figure of this design
I will never not be jelly, that's my favorite AC design of all fucking time.

Silent Line

had some of the best tracks in the series that the PS3 games fail to capture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ctLtUlgIE

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>>15412709
>tfw renting AC2 and AA from Blockbuster with all the other early gen PS2 games

>>15412281
I think that ACV/VD designs are the perfect mix withing western and eastern designs.

Western tend to make mechas as walking tanks or walking boxes with guns attached, highly mitlitaristic and conservative, they also like ballistic weapons a lot.

Eastern tend to go with a more humanoid look, a little more into fantasy with some mechs even resembling living being or knights (is not always the case) and they favor laser weaponry and some form of melee combat.

>>15413257
If FROM is really working on AC6, I really want to hear 2 or 3 tracks just to know what kind of direction they will take with the OST.

>>15413397
Retard

>>15411793
I just love how the heads on AC rarely looks like stuff like more popular franchise like gundam or human like some of the older mechas series. they have this long and triangular desings, with some variety like the head piece of Jack-O, and the infamous radar head.

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>>15413035
>but then there's this shit
Sure, let's just post the terrible end of the spectrum to generalize

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Fucking love Armored Core. AC3 and For Answer are fucking great.

My favorites are White Glint and AALIYAH but since those have already been posted, here's Noblesse Fucking Oblige. Epitome of worthless in gameplay, but great design.

Tbh I like the 4-FA designs most, followed by the Last Raven era, then the ACV-VD stuff. Not a fan of the early ACs; too anime for me.

ACV-VD are also the only designs that are even slightly practical for real world use. Tanks with modular weapons, speed, and able to cross various terrains. They're also small enough to hide under cover, unlike every other AC that are just big impractical stuff.

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>>15413515
>Not a fan of the early ACs; too anime for me.
>Posts a fucking angelic knight AC
Your logic eludes me anon

>>15413661
That's because I'm looking at their aesthetic complexities as machines. Early AC was designed by an actual anime designer; late AC was made by an in-house team. You can tell because early ACs have an anime feel, while late ACs are distinctly more mechanical.

>>15413688
Uh-huh.

>>15413661
To be blunt, late AC's take advantage of the # or polygons available and thus LOOK more complex. Early ACs were hampered by the low poly count and look anime-ish as a result. Late ACs aren't the kind you can adapt into an anime because of all the details

>>15413688
>late AC was made by an in-house team
Seemed to forget White Glint was a Kawamori design just as much as AC1 mechs were.

>>15413754
Polygons, man. Polygons. This was the first time he ever had that kind of freedom. Just compare the AC1 designs to White Glint and the differences in details are clear.

>>15413754
Also, White Glint is the only Kawamori design in the 4-FA era, so that's just a literal exception

>>15413661
>fucking angelic knight AC

I love how the tri-laser cannon manage to evoke the feeling of wings, even more if you use them in-game, they just arc a little when no used and are basically 3 sticks put together, and that doesnt stop Noblesse Oblige to be fucking beautiful.

>>15413762
If you read WG's part description, it says that those part were made by a genious architect, Kawamori is the genious architect.

>>15413772
No shit man. Kawamori's a fucking mecha god

>>15413772
Really makes you wonder what kind of other amazing designs Kawamori could have made in the PS3-360 era

>>15413696
>>15413760
ACs aren't all about bits and holes added onto a surface, unless you're into something like Bayformers. The PS1 designs were designed well, it simply wasn't translated well into 3D due to hardware limitations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jYzLlhmZ5o

>>15413798
ACs are whatever are called ACs by From Software. Doesn't matter what they look like so long as From Soft calls them ACs. It just so happens that I think Gen 1 ACs look too anime-ish specifically because of the limitations of their era

Also fuck that Bayformers bullshit. ACs look way better in any day (yes, even the ACs that are intentionally made to look like birth defects)

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>PC release never
Why live?

>>15413815
So you're calling AC1 mechs anime-like simply because the PSX couldn't handle hi-res textures?
Because design-wise they can't be that much different from anything up to Last Raven.

>>15413838
No I'm calling them anime-ish because they were designed with lower polys in mind and the result just looks anime-ish. I don't know about you but the difference between OG Nine-Ball and 9 Breaker Nine Ball are pretty distinct.

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>>15413835
It's an age of multiplatforming and From has done it for Dark Souls. Probability isn't high with what the niche nature of Armored Core, but it's a possibility nonetheless.

>>15413835
Because maybe some day, some day it'll happen. And until that day comes, one must dreaaaaaaaam

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>>15413849
I dunno man, anime has gotten pretty """""complex""""".

>>15413863
The wrong kind of complex. 100% def anime

>>15411793
>mfw there will be no N-WGIX because of FAG dominate Kotobukiya plastic model lines.

ACs game are great, even AC4 and V suffer from some of their mechanic but I still like it.

Also if any of you got a chance to get some Kotobukiya AC plamo kit ,like high detailed model, don't care that much about posing and high price.

Even Kotobukiya has lower mold making tech than Bandai and neglect joint mechanic, but their work into the detail are top-tier.

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>>15413863
>>15413866

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>>15413872
We may never get an official N-WGIX but there'll always be this one to look at

My problem with their kits is the plastic quality. Some of their older kits are like really fragile and the Nine-Ball Seraph kit broke for the wrong reasons. Aesthetics are totally awesome tho

>>15413876
100% not anime-ish tho

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>>15413872
>Started looking fro AC plastic modesl
>Notices Kotobukiya made everything from AC3 to ACfa
>Hyped as fuck, start looking for them
>Hardly any new kits are available and those that are sold have their prices jacked up
I just wanted the AC3SL AC and Dual Face

>>15413898
Those ACs are available, so obviously just sell an organ or two

>>15413782
>>15413794

>FROM decides to make a reboot with AC6
>go back to the root
>the hire Kawamori again as the main designer.

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>>15413906

>>15413906
Kawamori hasn't designed anything good in like nearly two decades.

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>>15413932
I was about to argue, but I've just realized pic related is nearly two decades old.

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>>15413932
TIL White Glint's design was like 9 years ago. Sad

Nirvash Mk.2 was okay, though.

Silent Line was the last good AC game. Everything after SL is shit.

>>15414121
But but muh quickboost spam

How do I into AC? I tried asking before but got a lot of conflicting advice.

what's good entry point to the games?

>>15415156
2 or 3 are a pretty good start.

>no anime or CG animated shorts other than openings up to VD
Pff

>>15415156
I started with 2 and don't regret a thing, great games all of them.

>>15414121
Kill yourself you meme-spouting piece of shit.

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I noticed that people like AC but dont care too much to build the models .
Its hard to find a good pict of a finished one .

>Live in small room in share house
>No paint area
>Small desk to work on
Should I still try to into Gunpla?

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>>15415322
I can send you a pic of a boxed one.

>>15415339
If you don't mind not being able to paint, you'll still be able to snap-fit and panel line it just fine.

>>15415339
Gunpla, sure, but maybe not AC kits.

>>15415339
It's alright. I made some neat AC kits in similar conditions. Just get a hobby knife and a nipper and you'll be fine. AC kits look good enough out of the box, so there's no need to paint (except for the CRONUS Vixen; that one is just wrong). Fyi, you can just use regular markers to substitute for paint. Panel lining will help a lot too.

>>15413887
I love how since it's essentially a reproduction White Glint off decades-old data, some parts aren't fully functional: It's cables failed to purge after disconnecting from its VOB craft, and it shuts down after using its assault armor for a second.

>>15413955
Those arms and legs are straight out of AC tbf

>>15413835
>tfw no HD collection of 3-LR with full analog support as well as m+kb

>>15414121
>guy who shitposted /gpg/ for weeks is still here and still has shit opinions

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>people hate Mobile Suit NEXT 00 because it wasn't the same as the last three gens
Man who ever did this missed out on For Answer.
>tfw a NPC notices a NEXT and gets shocked

>>15411793
Is it worth going back and playing AC4 and For Answer for someone who hasn't really gotten into the franchise? Or hell any of the games for that matter. (Granted it should be noted I'm pretty much limited to whatever was on the PS3 so basically V, VD, 4 and FA)

>>15416076
yeah theyre good. just much faster than the older games and more streamlined. ac4 and acv considered to be rough around the edges in the singleplayer and the rest are quite good

>>15413515
>Epitome of worthless in gameplay, but great design.
That disappointed me greatly when I tried using it.

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>>15415162
everytime.

>>15415974
LR could really use a PS4 port that some PS2 games have, maybe with peer to peer multiplayer.

>>15413661
Nobless Oblige is a weird example of fancy design, it manages to have that angelic knight aesthetic, but at the same time isnt a top tech medieval armor with huge feathered wins.

>>15413515
>>15416775
Fuck off Gendlin, your shitty AC shows why you're undeserving of your rank.
Leonhardt was better.

>>15416822
>Leonhardt
How? you only find him on a mission, just thank you for coming to his rescue, and on hard mode (that is more canon than normal) he dies before you arrived the scene.

>>15416835
Least you don't have to clean up his messes when a terrorist destroys a powerstation
Plus, Transcend>Noblesse Oblige

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>>15416857

>>15413515
Oh yeah I remember this mecha from Cross Ange!

>>15418289
Fuck you and die.

>>15418289
Commit sudoku

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Mah boy
AC Cascade Range
Pilot: Blowjob

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>>15418301
>butthurt over calling a shit design a shit design
Talk about touchy

>>15418305
It fits because Python blows.

>>15418317
you just don't understand quantum color theory and the complexities of 4D design. Sad!

>>15418320
Literally one of the worst rewards you could get in a game

>>15413835
Because you all act like cheating entitled cocksuckers about the Souls PC versions and its a big pain in Froms ass? Keeping in mind that their home country generally doesn't have much of a high end PC gaming culture

>>15418351
Yea but wasn't it *because* we were entitled cocksuckers that Dark Souls finally came to PC? From basically gave a PC release because us bitches wouldn't stop bitching about it. I say we NEED more childish prattling if we want a PC release

>>15418351
Damn, a platform warrior here?

>a big pain in Froms ass
Nah, they're grateful for all the cash.

>>15414157
It's funny how that was Miyazaki's idea yet everyone shits on it while praising Bloodborne where he literally did the same thing

>>15411793
Damn i wish we could get another Armored Core game.

>>15418368
BB is the worst souls. It's just a meme game that got uplifted because of its exclusivity.

>>15418368
The AC community is... weird. I like it a lot better than bunny hopping, which just looks silly. At least with QB you can get moments where mechs look like Char Aznable and speed out of the screen.

FA was a bit too spammy tho. VD had it just right

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>>15418379
nah

>>15418381
dont talk shit about bunny hopping
ac movement in ac3 up to ninebreaker was perfect and epitomized rewarding player skill

>>15418855
It looked silly tho

>>15418368
Well honestly from what I've seen of the Souls Community...most of them don't even know From's other's games aside from maybe King's Field it seems, and most other westerner's at least when they hear From Soft all they really mean is Souls and Bloodborne.

>>15418954
Can't blame em. At a glance, no-one could really associate the AC to a Souls game. They're just too different. Doesn't help that the marketing always sucks.

Honestly, I think the next AC game should just be marketed with "from the makers of Dark Souls/Bloodborne". Would it be disrespectful to AC, the senior franchise? Yep. Would it generate the wrong kinds of expectations? Yep. BUT that association to Dark Souls is one sure-fire way to land more coverage and public interest, something that AC seriously needs.

>>15418971
Oh I don't really blame them, it's just what I saw. Hell only reason I knew about AC was my Step Brother told me about 4 and I played it a bit, but never really got super into it. (I was the dude earlier asking about going back and checking them out so my experience was limited)

But yeah I could see their association to DS helping boost it's reach in the west, even if they're extremely different.

>>15418978
Totes. Marketing has always sucked. You know when was Verdict Day released in the west? In the fucking middle of GTAV and FIFA. Now, AC has it's own niche, but releasing an already niche game in the same 2 weeks as a behemoth like GTA is just suicide for marketing. No news outlet is gonna cover AC when there's money to be had in GTA articles. And you lose prospective buyers because who's gonna buy ACVD when GTA is out? Yeah, the fans and the mecha niche will buy, but the # of potential new fans goes down the drain.

>>15418989
I didn't even know VD was a thing until about a year later and I'm in the mecha Niche, you'd think that, even if I'm not a huge AC fan I would of heard about it sooner, but shit releasing it during V jesus christ.

But yeah I think they'll have better marketing, not to mention there's been a string of Japanese games from franchises that aren't as known to most of the western audience breaking out of their niche's (Nier automata comes to mind) and doing better than normal now lately so hopefully they'll pull the smart thing this time.

>>15411815
Muh niqqa.

Though I retain a small crush for the original White Glint.

>>15413407
Personally hope they go back to AC1 style tracks, or something similar.

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>>15419058
BroGlint

>>15416076
AC4 is rough. Like really rough. FA is excellent, though.

>>15419083
AC4 had some trippy music though. Agitator, Thinker, Mr. Adam, and Panther are dope.

It also looked better than FA in some areas, depending on your tolerance of color filters

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>>15411793
Still waiting in this here lonely corner for Armored Core 6 for Xbone and PS4.

ps2 game with the best armored core local multiplayer/general combat. go
the faster and more over the top the better

>>15418989
Heh. When VD came out I saw it on the shelves of this niche game shop that mostly sells obscure JRPGs, and correctly deduced that I would have to buy it immediately before it disappeared from the line up in about a week. I'm not sure normal game shops even had it. Never even noticed GTA was out, what does that say about me, eh?

>>15419083
>>15419097
Yeah, 4 feels a tad barebones and rough around the edges but the soundtrack is probably my own favourite from an AC game. What can I say, I'm a sucker for base guitar.

>>15419097
>color filters
>AC4: brown filters
>ACFA: shiny silver filters

sometimes i wonder what was the point coloring my NEXT

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>>15413872
>mfw there will be no N-WGIX because of FAG dominate Kotobukiya plastic model lines.
Maybe they'll reemerge when AC6 hits. One fabled day.

>>15419928
>AC4: brown filters

False!
...
...
...
There were also blue and green filters...

>>15419891
It means yuo iz special. like a Newtype who's better than most pilots and could sense the presence of fellow powerful pilots, but somehow missed the giant space colony right next to you

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>>15419097
>>15419910
>I'm a sucker for base guitar.
Same here senpaitachi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6zu0mlvkHY
It really helped distinct AC4/FA in my ears.

Though I also adore 3/SL/Nexus soundtracks and think they fit the series the most. AC2/AA OST is amazing too but I associate it more with GitS because of Mijk van Dijk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isGsb0IyDnE

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>>15419928
>AC4 final mission
>have to paint my NEXT completely white and turn up the brightness to blinding levels in order to see shit
At last, I have truly become the White Glint™

>>15420143
What if, just a idea, Kotubukiya and FROM make a crossover, and the make FAG from the most popular ACs or in the case of 4 era, the best NEXT frames

>>15420169
is sad that one of the best games in franchise (Last Raven) had one of the worst soundtrack, its good about creating the atmosphere, but nothing really outstanding from it.

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White Glint is Overrated trash.

>>15420450
is actually a good frame and the SALINES (back missiles) were OP as fuck before they were nerfed.

>>15420397
I thought I'll talk you kind of stood out as a menacing final boss them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34egIHrMS-s

That and the initial guitar riff of 5point5 from the menu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Z526ltnwo

It's all definitely quite subdued, but then it fits the tone of the game.

>>15420458
when you compare soundtracks from older games, and what I have seen, fanfavorite that is 4/FA, is only 2 tracks, and "I'll talk you" is good in-game, but no something I will put on my ipod or something

5point5 is probably the only noteworthy track on LR. Like I said, LR OST does a good work creating atmosphere about the situation the game presents, but is no something you will really want to listen outside of the game.

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>>15420390
Well I really liked the Busou Shinki games for PSP so I'm all for it.

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>>15420397
>>15420465
>LR OST does a good work creating atmosphere about the situation the game presents, but is no something you will really want to listen outside of the game.
Yeah this is my stance on it as well. It's really fitting both for the gameplay and the narrative but you won't find yourself listening to it outside of the game like some of the Frequency tracks.

However 5point5 and its credits remixes (which unfortunately weren't included in the OST cd for some reason) is pretty good.

>>15420477
>credits remixes

I need to find this.

>>15420456
>Shell out money to build special unique set
>Don't have a backup with all the money from their jobs over 10 years and can't jump into the war with ORCA
>Probably ran away after Line Ark fell like a bunch of pussies
>Bullshit full restore mid fight when /ourboy/ Otsdarva just suffered from a main booster malfunction which was staged

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>>15420489
>/ourboy/ Otsdarva

Wanst Otsdatva hated by most ACfags?

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>>15420488
I couldn't. They aren't even on Youtube and I couldn't rip them from the CD. Only way to listen to them is to replay the whole game.

>>15420502
How can someone hate Maximilian?

>>15420502
Just faggots hating on him.
For a overweight AC, he pilots it like he's a newtype.

>>15420514
>backstabing bastard
>really shit AC, both versions
>Omer's lapdog
>shit pilot that use "staged" death to avoid shame.

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>>15420520
>backstabing bastard
For the greater good.

>really shit AC, both versions
They're cute.

>Omer's lapdog
Merely pretending.

>shit pilot that use "staged" death to avoid shame.
Was just testing waters.

Welcome to the earth, dog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEqxsl7tISk

>>15420520
t.White Glint

>>15420548
>For the greater good.

He betrays you when you take ORCA's path.

>They're cute.
Ok, you win this one

>Merely pretending.
>ORCA have the backing of OMER and they basically created after finding the original plans on Rayleonard

>Was just testing waters.
HA!

>>15420560
>He betrays you when you take ORCA's path.
>not testing your sucessor to see if he can truly fufill the plan
I'm shocked no one noticed he somehow got out of his AC and jumped back into the "missing Stasis and Roy and Wynne never batted an eye. You could Imagine the dude just putting a paper saying "not Thermidor" on his face.

>>15420567
I suspect OMER having something to do.

>>15420584
>Blaming OMER for everything
Jeez.

>>15420586
but they are jews

>>15421410
Israeli/=Jews
They have affordable parts.

>>15421531
their parts were shit on 4, it wasnt until they salvaged everthing from Rayleonard that they manage to produce good parts.

>>15421675
Good price for their quality.
Besides, the leafs aren't using that technology, hell the leafs/rayleonard had it coming, their loss of all their Lynx, their assets.

What is the current state of the "great single timeline theory" for all the franchise?

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>>15422155
Been set in stone since the side material of VD came out, goes 4 -> 5 -> 1 -> 2, with 3 being in its own thing.

https://pastebin.com/Y4AMbSPv

It's some neat stuff if you haven't read it yet.

>>15422206
I can see why people connect 4 to 5, but how does than connect 5 to 1 & 2?

>>15422846
Not that anon but V/VD shows the creation of Nineball. It's J merged with that one AI lady. Same VAs too.

I'm kinda late when I first got into AC games in 2015. I started with the original AC on PSX emulator and boi it got me hooked. I started playing other games chronologically up until LR and then find the copy of AC4, fA, V and VD and blast though them all.

Personally each generation have its own charm and I like the games for what it is.

>>15422846
The side material strongly implies that the Chief/Carol AI is the precursor to Hustler One/Lana Nielson, and that Issac city from 1 was named after the guy who eventually became the Foundation Man from VD (who might also be R from 1? At least it seems hat way to me).

>>15422856
I don't think it was J. The impression I got was that Chief and Carol were Hustler One (or at least that they were precursors to Hustler One), since they start off investigating humanity to determine a course of action, and in the supplementary material meet Isaac, who influences them.

name ONE fucking ac

>>15423293
Oracle.

>>15423062
>Personally each generation have its own charm and I like the games for what it is.

Totes

>>15422856
>>15423074

Aaaaaaaand all of a sudden my interest in this theory just died

>>15423293
Pinch Beck

>>15423422
It's pretty obvious that 4/FA was the Great Destruction.

>>15423432
Nah

>>15423432
For one thing, Justice caused the Great Destruction and there ain't no Justice in 4/FA, so the theory goes down the drain.

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which ac design is your favorite out of all of the big bads/arena bosses?
mine is dual face
not even necessarily the coolest looking AC, but they did a cool job of building him up, making him mysterious, and inserting him into the story.

>>15423531
Does White Glint count as an arena boss?

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>>15423531
Oracle, Ethermaster and Supplice.

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>>15423531
Chief is dope

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>>15423062
>Personally each generation have its own charm and I like the games for what it is.

You are one of the few enlighted anons around /m/.

>>15423432
Why people insist on this theory? the only timelines connected so far are 4 and V era.

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Hilarious, wasn't it.

>>15415156
Last raven

>>15426115
get fricken pranked

>Playing Armored Core: For Answer
>Decide to make the heaviest tank build I can
>Give it grenade cannon arms and shoulder grenade cannons
>Cover it in unnecessary stabilizers because they look cool
>Test drive it
>It's generator and tank legs are so stronk that it can stay in over-boost forever
>The mech with the best armor and firepower of any I've made can also fly around at 1000+ kilometers per hour permantly

The customization systems in these games are so dumb and I love them.

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are the two AC5 games anygood?

>>15427755
Yes. VD in particular is great.

>>15427755
I prefer VD over 4A

>>15427755
>VD
Great game
>V
Heard bad things

>>15427913
Same desu.

If VD was a great game, it wouldn't have died after a month. lmfao

>>15427931
I've owned VD since launch, but haven't played it yet.
However, I have played V, and I dropped it because of how samey and repetitive the story was. I'm pretty sure the game probably wasn't that good online, also.

>>15413407

I just hope they don't center everything around online play. That's what kept me from 5.

>>15427931
V is something like 4 - Anemic.

>>15428326
Still played in Japan.

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>>15420450
i love these 2.
but this is the superior boi
Alysia Unsung is also top tier

>>15429823
>Still played in Japan.
Barely. Besides who fucking cares about the segregated nip server.

>>15430197
VD wasn't marketed for the west because Bamco is retarded.

>Who fucking cares
Just saying that west doesn't matter and it shouldn't be used to indicate quality.

>>15423531
Sorta cheating by saying it but the N-WGIX's design is completely fucking baller.

>>15430521
i agree. that and the aaliyah are some of my favorites of the newer generations

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Hey, good timing! I just got both Armored Core 4 and 4A, anything I should know before going in?
Pic unrelated

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>>15431570
Grenade launchers are your friend in AC4. In ACFA all the starting corporations are decent but rosenthal has a pretty good NEXT right out of the gate and interior union offers some good parts early on

Hope that helps

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>>15430218
>West vs East bullshit
If From released the game internationally, it will be judged based on the accumulated experiences of each server, not cherrypicking ONE server as being a slightly better experience than the rest. Otherwise they should've kept it in Japan, like a good number of their other mecha titles, even one about the president of the united states that's entirely in english.

>>15432086
I'm just saying that AC is niche in the west. Barely marketed and barely profitable, which is why Agetec couldn't continue localizing it.

Judge all you want, but V/VD servers weren't even updated like the Nip ones. And the game is poorly translated as well.

Westerner's opinion is worthless.

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>Aaliyiah fags

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>>15433338
AALIYAH is love.
AALIYAH is life.

I'm a strong, irregular raven who don't need no corporations.

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>>15433369
>shitty F1 aesthetic
>Manufactured by a fucking leaf
>outdated hunk of junk
Nah, SALAF/SOLUH for life.

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>>15433546
>shitty F1 aesthetic
It's really sexy. Looks a lot like Stinger's Vixen.

>Manufactured by a fucking leaf
/pol/ memes will never be funny or relevant.

>outdated hunk of junk
That's the beauty of it senpai. You're kicking everybody's ass with an OG fossil. So rare getting parts is practically impossible. What's not to like?

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>>15433546
>/pol/ack memeposter
>likes frame made by browns
MAKE UP YOUR GODDAMN MIND

whats the best ac game to beat the shit out of my friends in local

>>15433567
>>15433565
I thought it was more /int/, and it's not like they are good posters. I mean, their base was on a lake.
Pajeet atleast made a reliable NEXT, and I respect that. Good Biped, good quads, good reverse.
Meanwhile who'd rationally use an Alicia? The weaponry is the only good thing done by them (moonlights and marve).
I'd rather stay with improvements than go rare yardsale machines.

What's the bestgame to start playing armored core?

>>15433622
4/FA since they have actual tutorials and are by far the easiest to pick up and play.

>>15433546
is a shame that SOLUH looks good on everthing less the in-game model.

>>15433727
Nothing a good paint scheme can't rectify somewhat

>>15433622
Armored Core 3 nigga. Best of the best game in the series. Perfect difficulty curve, massive arena, plenty of diverse missions, and the best story in the franchise, as in, it's the only AC game whose story doesn't suck balls.

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>>15433622
Like this anon said >>15433673 even if 4/FA aren't my favorite they're still amazing mecha games in their own right and are really easy to get into. V/VD are a different beast but they're still great. It's more about the preference really. If you can't choose between the two then get FA and VD.

If you want the older generation then you can't go wrong with 3. You'll have to tackle the traditional controls but trust me once you get used to it feels great and really satisfying. Then follow up with 3's expansion: Silent Line. You can always emulate PS1 games and 2/Another Age later because they control the same.

If you can't handle traditional controls and want analogue aiming then go with Nexus. It's not really hard and it's a good prologue to one of the best entries in the series: Last Raven. You can skip Nine Breaker because it's mostly a multiplayer/training hub and Formula Front is a spin-off focused on AC building and AI fights.

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Here's the damaged version because why not.

>>15433774
gotta agree with this one as far as single player experience goes
its also the game that pushed armored core into full on over the top mecha action with letting you have left hand guns, free part tuning, etc.
every ac is super mobile and high power compared to ac2

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>>15433810
3 removed Limit Release. I will never forget.

>>15433838
to be fair limit release made single player a complete breeze. there was a build that was just 2 of the back unit that gave you extra ammo, all of the energy weapon spare parts, and energy rifle arms, and you could kill every single arena opponent within seconds. if you didnt, try again until you got heat damage

>>15433852
I know but every AC game can be cheesed and beat in like 30 minutes with certain builds. Let me have my fun.

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>>15433322
Just realized its easier to call you a moron. Goddamn, I fucking hate ACfags.

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>>15433947
Nice argument you retarded fucking cunt.

>"durr hurr VD is bad because the multiplayer is dead lmfao xDDD"
>implying popularity indicates quality
>implying the country with focused and most profitable audience doesn't matter
>implying you aren't a dumb faggot

>>15433774
>>15433810
Fucking this, AC3 is so damn good.

>>15433951
if you were actually enjoying the game, you wouldn't be on this board desperately trying to defend it. What is the circlejerk of 4 people you can actually talk to on the game getting that dull? Can't possibly imagine why...

>>15433622
THE FIRST ONE
I'm kinda disappointed no one else has said this.
To be entirely honest I'm playing through the AC series starting from the beginning.
Keep in mind that I'm about to start AC3.

I really enjoyed starting with the first game and seeing how they've changed between each game. You can also import your save data between all 3 ps1 games.
All the ps1 games emulate fairly easily if you've gotten a decent system.

So far my favorite has definitely been master of arena. Even compared to AC2 on the ps2 I felt it played the best out of all I've played so far.

>>15433865
4 can be cheesed with dual motorcobra and back grenadesfuckibg love those honestly

>>15435071
i liked the first game and its expacs very much but it was definitely pretty barebones, visually and in gameplay. its not the game i'd hand to my friend and say "this is armored core." that would be ac3, which is why it's the one i recommended

>>15419066
That is so hot. I need that kit.

>>15420143
s...sauce?

>>15420502
Otsdarva deserves to suffer for leaving me alone against White Glint.

Fuck White Glint.

>>15423293
Nineball Seraph~

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>>15436978
>>15404344

>>15437068
FAG x AC when?

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>>15437164
>armored fags

>>15436991
>can't handle white fag
Hah.

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>>15437171

>>15437171
Spin off game when? Extra points for being a mobile game

>>15412144
how are the models kits?

>>15442153
A work of art, I brought a second one. Now is a good time to get it, since they just did a re-release of the kit.

>>15442217
I'm looking at getting noblesse oblige and later on berlioz, what kind of paints would you recommend?

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>>15442235
oh, I don't paint them at all.... that's why I only get the dark skin ones.

>>15443127
What's with the dust? Is that from prolonged displaying, or did you put a flat coat up close?

>>15443127
>not cleaning your models
>still having that discolored crap from the nub
Are you trying to trigger someone from the gunpla thread or something?

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Something is coming.

http://p156.chobi.net/20th/

>>15443127
>tfw you want to get an Aaliyah model with digitigrade legs and a cannon, but the digitigrade ones only come with missiles or energy weapons

Why didn't Kotobukiya just make Armored Core kits as small packs of each individual part so you could make the exact AC you want?

>>15444156
So whatever it is (probably the proper announcement?) is 2 months and 23 days away?

>>15444181
Guess so, that's around the time of E3 right?

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>>15444156
Aww, shit.

>>15444188
E3 is in June, that'd be in July.

>>15444193
Well shit.

>>15444156
this has already been looked at on reddit. the source code leads to nowhere. it's not likely to be anything significant

>>15444281
Well yeah it'll be counting down to drum up hype for something. From have already said they're working on a new AC game since their done with souls.

>>15444369
>From have already said they're working on a new AC game since their done with souls.
Nah that was fake.

>>15444564
>[citation needed]

>>15444579
How do I prove a negative? You didn't even give out citation that they're working on a new AC. There was some speculative article few months ago that ended up being fake.

>>15444601
You're right, sorry for being a dick about it. I just figured this whole countdown was related to that article. I read it once, assumed it was true and was only reminded of it because of that teaser site.

There's no way way they're not making AC6 though, I mean c'mon it's their flagship series and they've not touched it for 5? years or so? Souls seems pretty played out at this point, surely they're going to try something else next now that the DLC is out.

>>15444619
Well they're working on like 4 new games at the moment. Or 3 I dunno, they said one is "quirky" or "weird". Miyazaki when asked about AC6 responded with "Ask Bamco first" but his later statement was something along the lines of "AC is our respected franchise and I wish to come back to it" so it's definitely possible.

>>15423293
Noblesse Oblige

>>15423293
Motherfucking Bullet Life.

>>15444173
No popular enough to go with the concept of the game, better just sell popular ACs from the franchise.

>>15444156
Chobi.net is japanese geocities. Some guy on twitter called prime156 posted this and something in japanese.
>prime156
>p156
It really does count down to the 20th anniversary, but it's still fake.

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>>15443540
just dust, I have no spray paint skills so better off do nothing.
>>15444112
may be, I'm sure they will give me some helpful tips and turn them into a masterful piece.
>>15444173
I feel the same way, and you end up buying the same parts.

>>15444619
>it's their flagship series

You are living in 2009.

>>15445716
The glorious return of the franchise with AC6 will change that.

>>15445836
I hope there will be an influx of soul fags who all go on youtube and post what they think are the best AC builds, we'll see everybody use them, and then those of us who understand how this game works will stomp them anyways because newfags only lucking at damage and nothing else. I hope there is a Noblesse Oblige or Supplice AC for us vets

>>15445942
>first week
>PvP filled by Heavies, even a couple of tanks with bazookas and heavy weapons (the type that force a ready position) and the rare blader that has no idea how to use it.
>Vets lives stomping them by using lightweights with missiles, machineguns and blades, the ocassional pile for max damage.


Please.

>>15445968
>they pick the wrong fcs
You know this is whats gonna happen

>>15445981
or a high consumption booster with a shit generator.

>>15445968

Fuck. If it's anything like Last Raven or 4/FA (that is, no junk parts for starting build), it'll be hilarious to watch vets use starter ACs to run circles around n00b builds. Good pilots can make the most out of anything, like taking out Bolt or Evangel with the literal starting AC in Last Raven, or even finishing 4 or For Answer with just a regular HOGIRE.

>>15446013
>HOGIRE
My man, you're taste is lovely
That and ALICIA and their variations are best ACs

>>15446013
>Good pilots can make the most out of anything

you know what, that is what I fucking love about the serie, the game is mostly skill based, from knowing what are you building to actually piloting the mech, because just having a good AC doesnt mean another person will able to use it well; rather than mix maxing stats all the time, is more about developing a playstyle and perfecting it and that is even acknowlegde in the games lore and plot, LR is basically about that a no augmented pilot becoming a dominant despise the everyone trying to kill you and the pulverizers going around; 4 main plot is a "outdate" pilot curb stomping the planets top pilots to the point of running a entire war by himself.

V and VD share some similarities with LR, hell, VD is basically acknowledging that LR happened and trying to stop it from happening again by hunting down any potential dominat.

>>15446066
>min maxing
If the new game does take off more than we expect it to, we can expect youtubers to jump on board for the ride and then expect some shitty tournament things to happen. After each tournament, there's gonna be a meta, and because of said meta everyone is just gonna pile on top those select builds

meanwhile we'll just counter build if we're being mean, or simply out skill them like the game intended you to do

>>15446013
>HOGIRE
>Noblesse Oblige
Such an example of using something that's overall very simple, but with enough skill cranking what you can do up to 11

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>>15446144
> something that's overall very simple, but with enough skill cranking what you can do up to 11

Wouldnt using SUNSHINE or NEW SUNSHINE closer to that? I know FA favors light and fast builds, but I have seeing some wild tank beatting the crap of a full looby by itself.

>>15420390
Well, they're doing the FA:G versions of the Metal Gear Rex and GaoGaiGar so it's not impossible.

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>>15446296
>hope.

>>15419222
We have to be careful though, we may get an influx of the bad kind of weebs in addition to the soul fags who will want to be all "I loved all FromSoftwares games since forever"

But we will get our AC6 and we will run trains on all the newfags

>>15446327
>we will run trains on all the newfags

Is this a plan to do raids when the game comes out? maybe attacking /v/ or /vg/? they have a general right?

>>15446296
Please dont put moe on my Armored Core.

>>15446345
>Attacking /v/ or /vg/
/vg/ has a general, but they maybe our only other source of veteran player and there maybe some of us who post between the two

If it becomes possible though, there could be some reddit vs 4chan and 4chan vs any mainstream youtubers who picks this up to fill the void of dark souls

>/vg/ and /m/ armored core generals should form a collation/unite
>We'll make our own men of honor system
>We should all join a 4chan team if teams return

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>>15446296
Actually?

>>15446428
I am completely down for this. We should adopt the kekistani flag of /pol/ as our logo.

>>15446493
Too me me

>>15446428
>>We'll make our own men of honor system

Please elaborate.

>>15446428
Isnt AC general on /vg/ full of namefags?

>>15446779
No you have that confused with /xivg/

You know, half the fun of AC4 and FA was going in to the same missions on hard mode to find that the difficulty isn't changed by numbers and shit but by what's actually happening in the stage changing. Shit like your VOB failing, or people betraying you, or an additional fucking boss appearing.

How the fuck is it that the only Dark Souls game that did that was 2 which Miyazaki DIDN'T work on?

>>15447242
I actually liked that a lot, it gavr some world buding and some plot points too, always in the minimalistic way, but it was a really good bonus on hard mode aside from the increased difficulty, wish more games did something like that

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>>15447230
this?

>>15447242
>How the fuck is it that the only Dark Souls game that did that was 2 which Miyazaki DIDN'T work on?

Elaborate. Seriously, because I don't understand.

>>15446428
>blogposting tripfags/namefags
No thanks, rather go solo and have a losing streak.
>>15447098
I thought most generals were mostly that if it isn't a fresh entry every so often or it's a MMO.
>>15445968
Heavy is the way to go man, what you saying? DAKKA is life.

>>15447918
well build heavies are great, but can you really expect newbies properly building a good heavy during the first week.

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>>15447958
>can you really expect newbies properly building a good heavy during the first week.

I can see it now.

>>15447958
Well newbies probably are trying to figure out this gen's style anyway or aren't that far into completing single player by first week.
Unless we get FA 2.0, so any sane fuck would want to go full SPEEDY BOY unless they're contrarian.
I just don't see the need for newbie crushing, ain't a fun match of its a bunch of cripples fighting you. Like Wonderful Body's mission.

>>15448179

Fun fact: Wonderful Body can 7/10 times take out Wynne or Roy all by himself. Obviously no match for a player, but all that heavy firepower is enough to beat other AIs.

>>15445690
holy shit anon
please buy a can of air. AC kits are like $50 a pop. aaliyah doesn't deserve this

>>15447589
I assume he's talking about the huge differences in NG+ on Dark Souls 2

>>15447589
Miyazaki made AC4 and FA which had that cool shit.

Dark Souls 2 has similar stuff on subsequent playthroughs where new enemies or invaders show up and other shit changes. At one point the boss of the area surprises you by popping up out of nowhere at the beginning of the zone. But it's the only Souls game that Miyazaki did NOT work on.

>>15448342
Close, about the same price as a MG gundam kit, http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10056985

never thought about can of air, good idea really.

>>15420507
>>15420488
I have it, but it's a .wav I found back in '09 or '10. You know, back when that was almost acceptable.
And now that I'm looking at it, the file is 23 MB. Mildly sketchy.
Interested?

>>15450867
better than nothing my dear anon.

>>15450867
Er, to clarify, I have one of the remixes. It's been an age since I last played Last Raven, so I don't remember how many there are in total.

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>>15450918
Well then, happy Easter, /m/. Or something like that.
https://my.mixtape.moe/mcqjaj.wav

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>>15450926
Thanks senpai~

>>15450926
>pic

You guys are still alive?

I assume 6 is coming. I mean FROM really doesn't have much else to do these days, and it's not like we're getting a new ACE from them after R.

>>15451068
Not really. Ahab, Helios, and Urist can occasionally be found online, but running into each of them feels like a feat in itself. I'll bet a lot of the others will come back and play once AC6 comes out, but there's no telling how long that'll be.

>>15451191
>after R.
But we DID get a new ACE from them that played exactly like ACE should play. ACE:Portable.

Also Unicorn for the PS3.

>>15413257
Nexus has the best soundtrack

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>>15411793
Yo when they making chromehounds 2
Im starting to get worried

So /m/, if FromSoft announced AC6 what are your expectations for the game?

Personally I want an online system like Dark Souls via hiring other online Ravens to help you out on mission and the reward get split accordingly. Also I expect the game to have a mix of 4/4A and V/VD gameplay. Hell, even if the gameplay goes back to generation 3 I wouldn't even complain.

>>15451726
Honestly, I dont think quickboost is going nowhere, even when you consider Bloodborne, the side step is a similar concept when you see it from game mechanic point, I hope it will retain shields of VD, and maybe a more deep plot

>>15451726
I've only played 1,4, and FA, what I'd like is:

-The movable aiming box from most AC games, no full screen from the most popular two.

-The option to play in first person like you could in AC1, but this time with an actual cockpit modeled.

-Module damage, as in damaging an arm enough will render it useless, damaging legs enough can render an AC stationary, destroying the head reduces their vision, and the main ways to beat ACs out are to take out all of those and make them a defenseless cockpit, or go straight to destroying the torso.

-Armor penetration mechanics, really weak weapons should just totally bounce off of really tough parts, a light AC using SMGs might do no damage to a heavy AC's legs and torso from the front, and need to flank it to shoot weaker armor spots, but still be able to take out it's arms and head from the front if they're not so tough.

-Tanks to actually move like tanks that have to turn, limiting mobility to offset the huge advantage of their load-bearing capacity and durability, also they'd just be more satisfying to play with weighty tank controls.

-A more drastic difference between the movement capabilities of heavy, medium, and light ACs, heavies should be stuck on the ground almost permantly, mediums should be like classic Armored Core, and only the lightest ACs should be doing For Answer stuff.

-A generally slower, more deliberate pace than 4/FA, or if it's anywhere near as fast as those it needs a perfect 60fps, which Fromsoft probably won't achieve.

-Let ACs hold one weapon with both hands for better aim and recoil.

-More visual customation, stabilizers should return, preferably with custom placement, there should be options to paint ACs in a variety of finishes, matte, glossy, metallic, chrome, etc, and different degrees of weathering, from a shiny clean new AC to something that looks like it came out of a junkyard, ACs should get their paint damaged as the are piloted through various missions.

Character limi-

>>15452238

Different weight tiers with different playstyles sound good. I'll dig the real tank leg controls so I can strap WA grenade launcher and dual chain guns on my tank AC.

>>15452238
Brought back in fifth gen.
Yeah, that'd be dope to have again.
Was in Last Raven (and kind of in Silent Line), but was more of a lucksack than anything due to the nature of the game.
Fifth gen has something pretty similar to that.
Tanks are already the worst leg type in fourth gen and VD. Having enough firepower to level eight ACs doesn't mean anything if you're never able to put yourself in a position to hit them.
I can get behind this. One of my major gripes with fifth gen is that midweights don't really have a purpose.
I'd be down with that.
You have no idea how long I've wanted this to be a thing.
On this note, another of fifth gen's major hangups is that the parts aren't very accepting of decals. They need to go back to how fourth gen did that. I'd love to see the finishes, but decals kind of cover the weathering part well enough, especially with some of the decal options fifth gen brought in. The damaged part DLC was also pretty neat.

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it took me years to realize that hustler one was ravens nest and once it became self-aware it started the war between the corporations on earth

How do I beat the destruction ending to For Answer?

It's so hard ;_;

>>15453219
Regs to 1.0 and equip dual Salines

>>15453219
you either do this >>15453234

or equip full kojima cannons and one shot everyone, every shot counts.

>>15453219
Gatling tank

Grenade tank

>>15453350
I tried a grenade tank, even using grenade arms and a back grenade launcher at the same time I didn't do much damage, couldn't even hit them most of the time.

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>those animations on the ultimate weapons
just wish i didn't had to wear sunglasses while playing, it's a freaking lightshow.

>>15453219
Sniper Quad

>>15453219
Simple.
>Kojima cannon arms
>Kojima cannon left back
>Kojima missile right back
>Assault armour (Sobrero model)
>Shoulder assault amplifiers

Charge up, fly to the wall platform in the middle, wait for them to show up, hover up to their height, wait for them to enter range, fire the arms at the lead machine, which will one-shot him, then shift to aim at one of the others, fire the back cannon at them and detonate the assault armour timed to catch them as they fly by. Done correct it should take out 2 before the fight even starts. Then just lame it out charging your cannons from the other side of the wall and only cross when ready to take your shots. If you blow enough of said shots you still have the missiles as an idiot proof failsafe.

No, 4A is pretty easy. Now my turn to look for advice, what are good weapons to use against Zinaida? I've gotten the hang of evading the railgun and I've got the speed to keep pace with her, but getting a good lock is troublesome and I need to get as much damage in the brief chances I can snatch. I've been using the Miroku with a single gun to give near instant lock speed and wide lock-box, which has given me pretty good result, but I'm not really doing enough damage fast enough.

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>>15453750
I though you could cheese her by flying up to the roof of the arena. Her AI is suppose to priorities staying above you, so if you fly up she gets stuck leading to an easy way to lock on to her.

But its been a while so take that advice with a grain of salt

>>15453783
I can match her speed and usually keep her from getting right on top of me, and apart from that she mostly flies up and down. I'm not even going to try and play 'bobbing for target locks' to keep her in sight, so I figure just need to do as much damage as I can when I get a clean lock.

>>15453750
What about that big machine gun with the drum sticking out the side? I seem to remember that having decent range, though I think ammo is an issue.
Honestly, for the one gun approach, I think ammo is going to be a huge problem. I never had much success trying to hit her with missiles, so if you empty your gun and she's still flying, then you're probably screwed and that Sylph in your hangar isn't likely to save you.
Weapon arms, maybe?

>>15453961
The linear guns were doing alright, but I was still having ammo issues, and with them there's no backup when they run out. Missiles are completely hopeless, they'll never hit her and I'm better without the weight anyway.

Really, I could probably manage if I kept throwing myself at it. The real challenge now is fighting the idiot urge to fire immediately rather than wait for a good hard lock. The problem is any weapon with halfway decent power and accuracy has a small lockbox, and she's hard enough to pin down as is.

>>15453514
Use splash damage and fire while hovering above and the target is on the ground. Three grenades will kill light ACs instantly with the splash damage alone.

>>15453750
>what are good weapons to use against Zinaida?
First, I'd recommend getting the MONJU FCS since it works well with just about every weapon.
For back weapons, I'd just take the CR-WB85RPX (large rockets) to take out the power sources on the wall and drop them as soon as your done. She's too fast for missiles and even if she wasn't, her core has a great vs. mg response. For arm weapons, I'd say best choice is dual ROC-4's with the GOLGI (Increases energy weapon attack power) and PHAGE (deceases energy weapon energy use when fired) optional parts since they do WAY more damage than they should and can be used pretty liberally as long as you're somewhat careful with your energy (going by the weight and energy usage, they're arguably the most op weapons in the game imo). Make sure to stick hand guns or other pulse rifles for hangar units. I didn't need them, but I was cutting it close. If you haven't unlocked the ROC-4, the other pulse rifles should suffice but you should make sure you bring hangar units. I personally wouldn't recommend getting weapon arms like >>15453961 suggests since they really cut into your defense and you won't have anything to fall back on if you run out of ammo. I think the PIXIE 3 is also a good weapon since 800 bullets to spend.

>>15454185
I'm extremely leery of bringing energy weapons to that fight, since I use high output boosters to keep pace with her and prevent myself from being overrun. I can manage the cost no problem for boosting, but I don't know if I'd be able to afford it for shooting as well (I'm also not a huge fan of energy weapons in general, but that's just me).

>>15453750
>>15454185 Cont.
Here's a list of parts I'd recommend. It's more cheesing than anything else really.
>Head: Lowish energy drain, lowish weight and a decent cooling and radar for seeing the unmanned weapons
-CR-H84E2 but it's a bit fragile
-CR-YH85SR has good defense but it may be a bit heavy and drainy for this mission
-CICADA2 practically ticks all the boxes
-QUEEN but the energy drain may be a little high
-EYE3 is the same story as QUEEN
-DRONE is great for just about anything in this game, this mission included

>Core: either the CRONUS or the YC99UL will do

>Arms:
-The Marque is the best lightweight arm in just about everything except weight and energy drain
-Any of the light Crest arms make for good, lighter and more energy efficient alternatives.
-I don't recommend any of the weapon arms since as said previously, hurt your defense (something that you will need) and you'll be out of options if you run out of ammo. Maybe the two bazooka arms or the CETUS linear gun arms might work.

>Legs:
-DINGO2 if you want more energy or speed
-Cougar2 if you want more defense
-If you feel that those are cheap, any of the other midweight legs with decent defence and turning speed will do

>Booster: VULTURE2, naturally

>FCS: MONJU since it works with just about any weapon in the game and should be wide enough to keep Zinaida in your lockbox. Looking up and down might be a challenge though

>Generator:
-CR-G84P has the highest EN output of the generators I'll recommend but it's a bit heavy
-CR-G91 is the most balanced and has the least heat emissions
-MAGNOLIA isn't a bad choice either, just slightly inferior to the CR-G91

>Radiator
-Ananda's perfect as long as you don't overheat too often
-CR-R32 is the safer choice

>>15453750
>>15454185
>>15454211 Cont.
>Inside weapons: Missile decoys I guess?

>Extensions: I'd definitely use the SAISUI or the JIREN since you can't afford to run out of energy

>Back weapons: Just the CR-WB85RPX for destroying the Interncine's power sources. Just drop after you're done. Every other weapon is pretty much useless, sans the CR-WB91LGL if you're using a quad.

>Arm weapons:
-ROC-4's are the best if you've got them, since they're lightweight, can be used as hangar weapons, easy on the energy, and do alot of damage, especially with the GOLGI and PHAGE optional parts
-Any of the other pulse rifles will do
-CR-WR93RL linear rifle might come in at a very close second since it does more damge per shot (bear in mind though that Zinaida's AC has shell defense than energy defense) and doesn't cost energy at all to fire. But it's heavy so you might have to sacrifice 1 hangar weapon to use it
-PIXIE3 is also good with it's enormous ammo capacity
-make sure you've got either hand guns, pulse rifles, or if you want to use the AI quirk that >>15453783 mentioned, the ELF3 or WL88LB3 laser blades in your hangar.

>Optional parts:
-Amino and CR-069ES are mandatory
-CR-079L+ if you want Zinaida in your lockbox
-GOLGI and PHAGE it you're use pulse rifles at all
-CODON might be unnecessary but it's a good idea equip it if you can
-MARISHI maybe even though it really doesn't do anything

>>15454204
>I don't know if I'd be able to afford it for shooting as well
Then take a pulse rifle with a rifle or hand gun as your mains, and a pulse rifle and handgun as your hangar units. Hangar units don't contribute to energy drain until they're being used.

>>15454211
I'd have to check, but I'm pretty sure I'm using at least half of this stuff already. I do know I've got about the best mix of energy drain, cooling and speed I think can manage out of my frame, the highest output generator, the highest cooling radiator and the highest output boosters (I don't know what its number is, but before Nexus it was called FLEET. I know it has high heat and drain, but no other booster seems to perform anywhere close to high enough for my needs (I'm keeping at around 500 mobility, since that seems to be about the right spot for keeping up with her rather than having her run rings around me).

>FCS: MONJU
This was something of an issue, I normally used it, but I found that because of its lock speed I just couldn't get a red lock on her and fire before she left the box vertically. Miroku reduces the size of the box quite a bit when dual wielding, but in exchange it has a huge normal box and near instant lock speed.

>>15454185
>>15454211
>>15454219
Basically, just get light parts and stick to that inner circle while bunnyhopping and dodge when her railgun starts charging up. It's kind of cheap, but this is a bullshit fight so fuck it

>>15454271
>the highest output boosters (I don't know what its number is, but before Nexus it was called FLEET
Are you referring to the CR-B90T2 (the green twin booster)? It's not bad, but I think you should get the VULTURE2 since it's more manageable in both heat and energy, which should allow you to ease up on at least the radiator. You should be light enough to keep her at a distance at that point, which will allow the Monju just enough space to work.

>>15454271
>>15454315
Looking back at the stats, Monju works best when paired with missiles. The KOKUH might work better with a slightly fast lock time but has worse parallel sighting and vertical lockbox.

Again this is a bullshit fight so it might take you a couple tries

>>15454315
Right, here's where I am as of my last attempts:

>Head-YH12-MAYFLY
Good combination weight/cooling/EN drain

>Core-CR-YC99UL
Low EN drain/weight, good cooling, many option slots, hangars

>Arms-CR-A92XS
Good weight/EN drain/cooling

>Legs-LH07-DINGO2
You already know about these

>CR-B83TP
Highest output. Also high heat and highest EN cost, but I've had little trouble managing either thanks to my frame, and anything less powerful simply won't do (replacing them with VULTURE2 would drop my max speed from 492 to 449, which I have no idea how I could make up).

>FCS-MIROKU
Worse horizontal box than MONJU, but better vertical (kind of needed for Zinaida), and bad parallel sight meaning I can only really one hand with it, but excellent lock speed that's important given the pace of the fight

>Generator-KONGOH
Better output and lighter weight than the 84P and while the cap is low it's perfectly serviceable when tuned given the output

>Radiator-CR-R92
Highest cooling I've got, needed for the boosters.

>Inside-I0SD-MEDUSA
Decoys, short fight so I only need a few

>Shoulder-JIREN

R.arm-CR-WR93RL
Currently using it, decent combo of accuracy/power/ammo. Not quite enough though

>Hangar-CR-WH01HP
Light, powerful, physical. I saw a guy take most of her AP with just 2 of these.

>L.arm-SUITEN
Shield. Might drop it, I only put it on because I wasn't doing anything else with that arm and though it might help.

>Option-AMINO, 069ES,071EC, 079L+, ORGANELLE. CODON, MARISHI
All basics, with some luxuries because of all the space. No EN ones because I don't need them.

And all parts tuned for better cooling, save the generator, which gets condenser cap (output tuning only gives 17 more points because it's already so high, compared to +6000 cap)

It might be a bit unorthodox, but the speed, EN drain and cooling all suit my needs very well and let me last. I just needed to figure out how to make that time count.

>>15454329
Actually, never mind, I managed it. Down to 500AP, but it was enough. I used pretty much the same build, but with a ROC4 instead of the linear gun. Damn and blast that I had to use a class of weapon that I hate, but it was effective. I tell you what the other real game changer was: switching out the braking/cooling optional parts for the stability one. I'd noticed that what did me in a lot of the time was getting struck by stray missiles and stunned long enough to her to close to machinegun range or hit me with the railgun, but with that part I could power on through. It made a huge difference.

Anyway, cross that off the bucket list. Time to go unlock the final pluverizer and get pasted by him instead.

>>15454582
Glad I could help. Good luck on the final pulverizer.

>>15454590
Thanks.

Also hahaha holy shit this railgun is fun. Not the most practical weapon, but it sure feels good to use, especially to avenge myself on Zinaida now that she's in the ex-arena. The charge actually works in favour of itchy trigger fingers, since sometimes it's acquired a full lock by the time it actually fires.

man how long are we supposed to wait for the next AC game, fuck sake it's been 5 years since AC5 came out.

>>15454836
4 years since Verdict Day

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>>15437171
>>15438688

>>15455279
I find this one weird, the head is now a collar, shoulders are a head piece, legs are way to high and some others stuff

>>15454582
>final pulverizer

May God be with you anon

>>15455908
I find the concept of FAGs weird, but that's what happens when you nuke a country twice.

>>15456332
Honest question, why people say that the nukes were the cause of the rise of kawai, moe and other stuff like that

>>15456939
Because it's convenient and you don't need the truth when you have convenience.