Is Nausicaa the greatest sci-fi manga of all time? How come nobody

Because Mecha means giant robot

>>15406409
It's good. Probably the best thing Miyazaki's ever done. What else is there to say? Even the fucked up insect incest porn doujin is amazing.

Because most people watched the inferior anime version

>>15406417
No it means Devilman and Go Nagai

>>15406417
God Warriors are giant robots.

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>>15406409
>greatest sci-fi manga of all time

>Hasn't read Akira
>Hasn't read FSS
>Hasn't read The Origin
>Hasn't read BLAME!
>Hasn't read Gunnm
>Hasn't read anything from Tezuka
>Hasn't read anything from Matsumoto
>Probably wasn't even born when any of these above works were written
>Probably only even read Nausicaa because Miyazaki's name was attached to it

Serious question, is this like the fifth manga you've ever read?

>>15406453
>>Hasn't read anything from Matsumoto

Good, not many people are sensible enough to realize Lazy's reputation is all smoke and mirrors and garbage punching scenes.

>>15406453
>>Hasn't read anything from Matsumoto
Do you want him to overhype Nausicaa even more?

>>15406409
>Is Nausicaa the greatest sci-fi manga of all time?
No.

>How come nobody here ever talks about it?
Refer to my first answer.

/thread

>>15406477
>>15406606
Oh, kill yourself already Lazyrager.

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>>15406453
lmao

>>15406409
It is some pretty tight shit, but greatest might be a smidge too lofty. It's pretty much top ten or even top five without question, though. As for why it's not discussed much here, it's somewhat lacking in the robot/power armor department, which is what is discussed most here. That, and oddly enough, not many people here seem to want to shitpost about it.

>>15406453
>>Hasn't read anything from Matsumoto
Good for you, OP. Nothing of value was lost.

No, nausicaa manga is pretty bad read actually.

At least for me.

>>15406409
It's pretty good, but there are many works as good or better.

>>15406453
>>Hasn't read BLAME!
I love BLAME! and am in the middle of reading for the first time right now.
And while I love it to death and think there's a lot of amazing illustrations, and story elements incorporated into it there's something that stops me from saying it's the greatest.
It's definitely good though, I just wouldn't call it the best.

Because Hayo Miyazaki is a pretentious overrated pedophile

>>15406477

Show us on the doll where he touched you.

>>15406978
It's one of the greatest for sure. The shear sense of atmosphere is unlike any other manga out there.

I don't know how Nihei regressed so much since then.

>>15407720
I've only read a little bit of BLAME! so I can't say if it's an issue there, but in other Nihei works I've noticed his paneling is fucking awful. Action never followed well in Sidonia and fights came off as confusing at times due to massive jumps in action from panel to panel.

>>15407724
I was more bothered by the extreme whiteness and lack of contrast in Sidonia to even notice the panelling.

>>15406409
I love the manga. I've got the whole thing on my shelf. S'beautiful.

>>15406453
>Automatically assumes that OP hasn't read these manga because "No one could possibly have a different opinion than me"

>>15407041
>he points to the eyes

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>>15406409
I liked it, I finished with that sensation that it was a long but worthy ride. I also personally loves fantastical worlds that mix medieval knights with firearms, planes, tanks and etc. A shame that this is not done more frequently, and when is done, it is generally mild.

The only thing that to me was kind of insupportable sometimes, was Nausicaa herself. Is difficult to me to put it, but, her character starts interesting, but as the manga goes by she becomes more and more like a second coming of Lord Jesus Christ, Savior of Mankind etc etc. She is always too kind, she is always too forgiving, and so on. She becomes too much of a idealization of a perfect person, a saint. Almost all other characters are more interesting than her; Kushana, Yupa, Kurotowa, and so on. And thanks god, the manga gives enough time to them to shine by themselves.

But that's is my opinion and a matter of personal taste.

>>15407806
Not him, but Nausicaa is far more popular for casual manga readers than anything he listed.

>>15407854
>The only thing that to me was kind of insupportable sometimes, was Nausicaa herself. Is difficult to me to put it, but, her character starts interesting, but as the manga goes by she becomes more and more like a second coming of Lord Jesus Christ, Savior of Mankind etc etc. She is always too kind, she is always too forgiving, and so on. She becomes too much of a idealization of a perfect person, a saint.

She's Miyazaki's self-insert. Many of his MC's suffer from this problem.

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>>15407869
Yeah, I know, even if I would not call it a self insert, and more in the lines of his over-idealization of strong female characters. His leading male characters seems to tend to have more flaws and internal struggles, comparatively with the female ones. But even so, manga Nausicaa still beats all the other Miyazaki female leads in this matter.

Why is it so hard to talk about Miyazaki on /a/?

>>15407864
>Not him, but Nausicaa is far more popular for casual manga readers than anything he listed.

WHAT

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS

HOLY SHIT YOUR DELUSION IS OFF THE CHARTS

>Nausicaa is more popular than AKIRA
>Nausicaa is more popular than TEZUKA
>Nausicaa is more popular than YAMATO
>Nausicaa is more popular than GUNNM
>Nausicaa is more popular than GUNDAM

Fucking off yourself, you piece of shit

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>>15407900
>all of the characters have the same exact face
wow suck skill

>>15407981
>Anything anime or manga being more popular than MIYAZAKI

Who's the delusional one again?

>>15407988
It's still you, without a doubt.

>>15407992
>NO U

sad

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_anime_films

>>15408004
And Nausicaa isn't anywhere on that list. Not to mention, it's not even a list for manga in the first place. L O L

Also
>The films on this chart have all had a theatrical run (including re-releases) since 1999, and films that have not played since then do not appear on the chart due to ticket-price inflation, population size and ticket purchasing trends not being considered.

L M F A O

>>15408012
>And Nausicaa isn't anywhere on that list

Neither is anything from >>15406453

But Miyazaki's name still sticks.

>it's not even a list for manga in the first place

Same reason as above, none of them are on that list.

So far you have zero proof that any of the above works are more popular than Nausicaa other than using a name/franchise association. To which Miyazaki trumps all.

>>15408026
>Neither is anything from >>15406453
Because it's a list of films, not manga, you dumbfuck.

>So far you have zero proof that any of the above works are more popular than Nausicaa
You're the one saying Nausicaa is the most popular sci-fi manga series ever. Prove it.
>To which Miyazaki trumps all.
Prove it.

>>15408045
>Because it's a list of films, not manga, you dumbfuck.

Nausicaa is a film too, dumbfuck. And many of the manga listed have films associated with them.

>You're the one saying Nausicaa is the most popular sci-fi manga series ever.

More popular than anything from your list.

>Prove it.

You first, shithead. >>15407981

>>15408045
>>To which Miyazaki trumps all.
>prove it

Name me a more famous person in the anime industry than Miyazaki.

>>15406417
LotGH didn't have giant robots.

I'm wondering if anyone can define /m/

>>15408053
>talk about manga
>can only link list of films that aren't even adjusted for inflation
>assert that Nausicaa is the most popular EVAR
>refuse to back up your statements
S H I T P O S T E R

Enjoy your dead thread

>>15408064
>you can't prove that Miyazaki is the most popular person in the anime industry!

Are you legitimately retarded?

This piece of shit is shitposting on /a/, too
>>>/a/155562482
Looks like we've got a new autistic shitposter

>>15408068
Wow, even on /a/ posters are asking him to prove his statements and he refuses
>>>/a/155568833

>>15408064
>Enjoy your dead thread

But I'm not OP? Are you confused already?

>>15408068
>>15408074
Why are you talking to yourself you cancerous crossboarding fuck?

And now OP knows why we generally don't talk about it that much.

>>15406409
I still don't think Nausicaa was in the right when she refused the precursors' help in genetically modifying humanity to survive the Forest of Death's purification process. The people of the current world knew nothing of the damning wars from that era and don't deserve the painful death that results from too pure O2 entering their lungs, and gambling that if humanity deserves to live then nature will find a way is irresponsible as fuck. The Forest of Death isn't natural, it was created by man to purify the Earth of its nuclear fallout after they realized the folly of their war, to give humanity a chance at a brighter future. Nausicaa even used that same nuclear light to destroy this only chance.

>>15408082
One shitposter doing the classic "PROVE IT" bait does not constitute all of /m/.

Aw fuck, nevermind.

>>15407987
>entirely different chins, eyes, and facial hair
>sameface

And this is why nobody ever takes this place seriously.

>>15408088
It does well enough when it just makes the thread constant bickering of neither side giving anything substantial to a discussion

>>15408102
That's kind of how all threads here are tho.

>>15408107
That's what I mean

>>15408102
If OP didn't make the assertion that it was "teh GR8EST THANG EBER!!1!" we would probably have had a better discussion.

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Actually I like the anime more then the manga. Don't get me wrong the manga is great, but after the half or so is reached it takes weird turns and gets more and more alien for my taste. The anime is clearer cut and doesn't end with the bitter sweet note of mankinds ultimate extinction.
On the other hand best boy Kurotowa got more screen time. Honestly I could read a story only about him and it would be fantastic

>>15408116
>is
>is

>>15408116
That's a lie and you know it.

>>15408150
>ISIS
It is what it is

Nausicaa is a total babe.

>>15408068
>the infamous Italian spicposter is in that thread
>>>/a/155571734

Fuck me I hope he never comes back.

>>15408372
There's more than one

>>15408381
Now there's more than one, but a couple years ago it was just Mario shitposting in Getter and Gundam threads.

>>15408386
True, but it's very hard to distinguish

>>15406409
I really like some of the planes' (love the gunships) and armor designs in it. It's too much fantasy scifi for /m/'s taste I guess. how it suddenly veers into magical telepathy in the later parts

>>15408452
>It's too much fantasy scifi for /m/'s taste I guess.
>how it suddenly veers into magical telepathy in the later parts

Do you not know what Newtypes are?

>>15408372
He's probably the one who made this thread here too.
>>>/a/155569958

>>15408527
He's the same Miyazakifag who shat up that last manga thread, what did you expect?

https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/15371985/#15372510

>>15408513
Well at some points Nausicaa gets transported into the mental world (via forestman magic) and also hell (though both kinda also exists within the character, what?). Some priests literally have a telepathy duel where one dies. And ghosts/spirits are in the setting as well, a dude could get his soul out of his body to attack others. Not even a pseudo scifi explaination was given, gets really spiritual towards the end.

>>15408561
>a dude could get his soul out of his body to attack others

So you haven't seen ZZ?

None of this sounds remotely out of place here at all.

>>15408561
Sounds like bog standard science fiction to me

>>15408564
Oh, ok. I'll admit that I'm a rookie to a lot of the /m/ shows. Just thought that most people here like hard core scifi(?) (w/ giant mechanical things), and Nausicaa seems to have too little of either.

>>15408589
Scifi and fantasy often go hand in hand.

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>>15408589
>Just thought that most people here like hard core scifi

lolno

The hell gave you that impression?

>>15408564
ZZ was such a trip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yic2eaCnIao

>>15408593
I was always thought sci-fi was just fantasy, but in the future or current day.

I would love it if it weren't for that ending. Talk about shitting the bed right at the last possible moment.

>>15408800
I thought the ending was what made it great.

To be honest the middle section of the manga was so aimless.

>>15408833
It's not what happens, it's just that it's presented through lame exposition.

>>15408846
Oh, you mean the last page. Yeah, that was kind of half-assed.

>>15408589
Considering how much you see people wanting grunts and muh realism, I can't really blame you. You're probably correct too, all things considered.