In late 2006, Leiji Matsumoto accused J-Pop singer Noriyuki Makihara

A real life villain being toppled. Beautiful

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How does someone become as butthurt as OP?

Reminder he thinks this is good art

He should have called stan lee's lawyer.

>>15350023
The bitch was probably guilty as sin.

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>>15350048
>Ishinomori
>Nice and unique paneling
>No awkwardly cut close-ups
>No overuse of talking heads
>No shadows or black ink taking the majority of the page
>No girls who looks like sticks and trees
>Varied facial expressions and character designs
>Full body shots
>Actually showing action and movement instead of taking shortcuts
>Real cartoony bodies instead of potatoes with mushy/melting bodies.
>Good use of abstract and exaggerated proportions instead of random composition

Yep. This is good stuff. One page is better than Lazy's entire career.

>>15350048
T H I C C

>>15350455
>OP makes excuses for shit Ishinomori art again

top kek

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>When you shit on Leiji for being lazy but defend this

>>15350455
>>No overuse of talking heads
What do you have against David Byrne?

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>>15350466
At least he has a nice-looking running pose. You look at them and you know they're running. Lazy is incapable of making anyone look like they're even moving.

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>>15350048
Ishinomori really should've went to Leiji for advice on how to draw attractive women.

>>15350480
>Posts literally the exact some pose

Priceless.

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>>15350466
>What do you have against David Byrne?
Nothing against Talking Heads, their music is great. But when your comic is 95% made of them like Lazy's (the other 5% are copy/paste still pictures of spaceships and deformed mutant bodies), we have a problem.

>>15350511
>So stupid he can't even quote the right post

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>>15350501
And Leiji should've went to Ishinomori for advice to draw literally anything else. By the way, I think you meant "woman", because Lazy is literally capable of drawing only the same one. And she's always standing still or sitting on her ass doing nothing.

>>15350507
It's not like the opposition is having that much effort either: >>15350048

So why should I care?

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>>15350528
He draws other things just fine, lad.
Here's another pretty lady, maybe you'll find the light to having decent taste.

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>>15350530
>Complain about artist doing one thing
>Defend another artist for doing exact same thing

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>>15350539
>He draws other things just fine, lad
Oh, he does? So why he insist on not doing it?

>>15350549
I'm not talking about the artists, I'm talking about the moron who is always posting that same picture. And also, thank you for the page. It looks like ass and will be great for future shitposting.

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>Claims authorship over the Yamato franchise
>Can't even draw the damn thing right.

Typical of Lazy.

>>15350625
>Lazyrager doesn't understand the basics of perspective

Shouldn't have expected much from the retard who doesn't understand how paneling works.

>>15350573
>will be great for future shitposting.

So Lazyrager admits it, and the mods still won't do jack shit.

>>15350643
Our mods have actual taste. They don't care when we shit on douchebags like Lazy.

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Anyone mind if I use this thread to post his iconic artwork? Really love his mechanical designs.

>>15350638
Now you're not making any sense. This has nothing with perspective. He completely got the design wrong, can't even use a reference. No wonder the Akira Hio version of the manga is superior in every possible way.

>>15350625
Op confirmed for fucking retarded (not that we didn't already know that)

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>>15350677

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>>15350692
It's really impressive despite how despite doing character designs, mechanical designs, animation, setting works, and directing the Yamato series he also managed to find time to work on the manga while also publishing several other series.

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>>15350699
He also did planning and composition for Arcadia of My Youth and the Galaxy Express 999 film.

Here is Hideaki Anno talking to his idol:
http://ourstarblazers.com/vault/252/

>>15350692
>Lazy finding ways to not draw a damn thing again.

>>15350682
Not matter how much he tries, he can't get any more autistic than this guy:

>>15350677
>>15350692
>>15350699
>>15350723

But at least he does his job of keeping these threads alive by posting his ramblings and ugly-ass "art".

Sup /a/ why is my phone company blocked on your board? Guess it makes sense when you never leave the house or close your 4chan tab lmao pedo freaks
Leiji is god

>>15350792
Yes, it's official. All lazyfags suffer from some sort of dementia. That explains it all.

>>15350792
Hiro is doing god's work

>>15350539
These proportions are off, but not in an intentional way.

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Holy shit, is this how Matsumoto draw his own characters?

>>15353410
It's like a child drew that.

>>15350573
this can't be real i mean there's no way he drew something like this and got away with it

i wish leiji matsumoto would start remaking the workds of go nagai

so we could have Ultimate LAZY For Mazinger

>>15353443
Convince people you single-handedly created one of the most important anime franchises of the 70s, and suddenly they let you get away with anything. Fortunately, justice was served, even if it took a few decades.

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>>15353410
Yep. And here is how he draw other people's characters.

>>15353479
Underrated post

>>15353522
He basically did

>Nagai releases an autobiographical manga literally thanking everyone like Masaki Tsuji, his editor, his mentor Shotaro Ishinomori, the producers over at Toei etc for helping him create his defining works showing that manga is a collaborative effort and not a one man job

>Matsumoto: YAMATO WAS SUPER SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT BUT THEN THEY HIRED ME AND I REDID EVERYTHING MYSELF I AM THE SOLE OWNER OF SPACE BATTLESHIP YAMATO WHY WON'T NISHIZAKI ACKNOWLEDGE MY SUPERIOR WRITING SKILLS AND IDEAS

>>15355206
>He actually thinks Nishzaki contributed anything worthwhile to Yamato

Dude was a business man, not a creator. Why are so hung up about this when you've been provided countless sourcing from multiple people citing the man you hate so much as being very important to Yamato? You never respond to any of the citations you're given and you just continue to shitpost like a baby. You are quite literally the only person to deny all the work he did for the series.

I don't even know why I respond to your ramblings, it must be some autism on my behalf at seeing such intensive autism on your behalf. But I have honestly tried to explain things to you in simple ways for you to understand.

I've recently introduced a friend to Leiji's works and she's been loving them. Especially Galaxy Express. Will probably do Queen Emeraldas next.

>>15355235
If anything, I'd think that Ishiguro contributed to Yamato being what it is a lot more than Nishizaki. Ishiguro is the unsung hero of mecha anime in the 80s.
Nishizaki was useless, the one Yamato version where he was actually involved was Resurrection, by far the worst of Yamato we ever got and an insult to the franchise. And if he got away with what he wanted in the 70s to begin with Yamato would've been crap. Thank God both Matsumoto and Ishiguro, among a few others, made it one of the best anime in history.

>>15355235
That's irrelevant.

Matsumoto was hired not as the co-creator, but as the art director. The fact that he re-did everything about Yamato is completely irrelevant.

Nishizaki owned the rights. He started the whole process. So when the man wanted to make a sequel to Yamato, Matsumoto should have kept his mouth shut and let him do what he wants. It's his property. But no, Matsumoto sued Nishizaki over it. Whether Resurrection was bad or not is completely irrelevant.

Lazy Matsumoto has proven twice in court, and in his interviews that he's a grade A asshole, who wants to take credit for near everything and is incapable of acknowledging other people's work. I hope he dies soon so we don't have to deal with his disgusting behaviour ever again.

>>15355306
Precisely. Both Leiji and Nishizaki are shit.

>>15355306
Not just that, Nishizaki was a moody, unstable, asshole. Hell, there is a YAS and Izubuchi interview in outblazers where YAS comment the follow:

>Yas: That was Nishizaki’s style. When a meeting came up, various staff members like Mr. Yamamoto and I were called in. When the meetings got deadlocked, many staff members other than Eiichi, including me, were called up. Then he would tell me, “You look like you have a complaint. Tell me what you want to say, in written form.” I did as he asked, and in the next meeting, he would say, “This is my idea–,” but actually it was MY idea. (Laughs) Various other people probably went through the same thing.

Not to mention various other episodes where he treated his co worker like a idiot, or he's various incidents during the 90's, like bringing drugs from the Philippines and the possession of illegal guns, such as a M16 with a granade launcher and and great amounts of ammo. Those threads generally paint Nishizaki in a fictitious"poor tricked original creator" light to try hit Matsumoto. But this is seriously more credit than Nishizaki deserves.

>>15355456
>treated his co-workers like a idiot, or his various incidents during the 90's

>>15353410
LAZY as fuck

When criticizing Matsumoto's manga became synonymous with being at Nishizaki's side again? No one ever said anything about anime other than delusional fans who truly believe Matsumoto was an animator.

>>15355341

It was terrible. I am happy that it failed, so now we have 2199 and not a sequel to that abomination. Cheers to you and your "lazy Matsumoto" meme. Maybe it will become a thing in the vacuum that's /m this days.

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>>15356968
>so now we have 2199 and not a sequel to that abomination
And Leiji Matsumoto is still mad that exists and has nothing to do with its existence. He's not getting any credit for it and rightfully so. Now the douche wants to cash-in on the franchise by creating rip-offs and selling the rights to pachinko companies for a shameless cash grab. Also, all his solo-Yamato projects were huge piles of shit. Not even Lazyfags can deny this. He doesn't even care, he just wanted Yamato to insert his bullshit shared universe.

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>When you did just about everything for Yamato but somehow in anon's mind you contributed nothing

>When Yamato was just about a flying rock in space before Leiji came along but somehow he is not important

REALLY MAKES YOU THINK

>>15357110
What you just posted there was created long before the Yamato remake and was going to be turned into a TV anime. It looked really kickass.

>All his solo Yamato projects were huge piles of shit

Says who? Most of them were cut short due to legal problems before they got anywhere. The only animated project of Yamato in recent years with his name attached was the pachinko game that had its animated footage released as an OVA. Probably no worse than with Nishizaki did.

The fact that you want an old man to die because you're mad that he reworked Yamato into something watchable speaks volumes. You are more than likely mentally ill.

>>15355341
It's not irrelevant you fucking moron. Jesus fuck. NISHIZAKI'S PLAN FOR YAMATO DOES NOT RESEMBLE WHAT WE HAVE AT ALL.

Never seen someone try so hard to defend a producer or claim that they're the content creators. Might as well say greedy business men at Sunrise are the sole force responsible for Gundam and not Tomino.

Should I link you some story drafts showing you how it was reworked or something?

>>15357151
>Says who? Most of them were cut short due to legal problems before they got anywhere. The only animated project of Yamato in recent years with his name attached was the pachinko game that had its animated footage released as an OVA. Probably no worse than with Nishizaki did.

He did a manga. That's what he does. He's a manga "artist", you know. And the said manga is a piece of shit and everyone who bothered writing a review for it agrees:

https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E6%96%B0-%E5%AE%87%E5%AE%99%E6%88%A6%E8%89%A6%E3%83%A4%E3%83%9E%E3%83%88-%E6%96%B0%E8%A3%85%E7%89%88-1-%E5%B0%91%E5%B9%B4%E3%82%B5%E3%83%B3%E3%83%87%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9%E3%82%B9%E3%83%9A%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A3%E3%83%AB/dp/4091227295

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>>15357151
>It's not irrelevant you fucking moron.
>NISHIZAKI'S PLAN FOR YAMATO DOES NOT RESEMBLE WHAT WE HAVE AT ALL.
In other words, irrelevant.

>greedy business men at Sunrise are the sole force responsible for Gundam and not Tomino.
Are you being deliberately stupid? Gundam is a Sunrise team effort, and not a one man job. Either way, your point is completely irrelevant.

If I hire you to do your part, at the end of the day, the IP is mine. When you work on a project in your company, that project is not yours, unless you have some sort of special arrangement with the actual owners. Nishizaki shouldn't even have lost the character rights to Yamato. He should made it clear that Matsumoto is working for him, and not the other way round.

And here's another fact. Matsumoto sued Nishizaki over a product he owned. This is the disgusting part.

I literally do not give a fuck how much Nishizaki did or didn't do. It's his property, he shouldn't have to deal with ungrateful twats like Matsumoto trying to steal Yamato rights away from him.

>>15355356
Leiji is one of the main reasons Yamato was good. Not the only, mind you, but he was still very important to the franchise.
Nishizaki would've been the main reason Yamato was shit if he got away with what he wanted. He was also the main reason Resurrection was shit. He had to die so the franchise would go into the correct track again.
There's no point of comparison there.

>>15357252
>remake
>correct track

filthy /a/ poster

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>>15357191
Yes, I literally said that they were cut short. None of them even got far enough to introduce their plot.
Thanks for essentially restating what I already said.

Would you like to address everything else I said?

>>15357195
Again, not irrelevant. Yamato would not exist as we know it if not for Leiji. Nishizaki has essentially nothing to do with the end part. You can't call it his creation.

Even courts agreed with Leiji for years and that's why he had excess to his parts of the creation (IE the ship designs and the characters) which is why we got to see them in the Galaxy Express 999 manga.

Nishizaki gave Leiji COMPLETE control over the creative process of the series. Nishizaki did not create those things, Leiji did. Fuck, he had so much control over everything he even planned to put Harlock in it and we had fucking Yamato merchandise with Harlock pictured in them.


>And here's another fact. Matsumoto sued Nishizaki over a product he owned. This is the disgusting part.

Nothing wrong with that considering you have no problem with Nishizaki taking credit for other people's work.

>he shouldn't have to deal with ungrateful twats like Matsumoto trying to steal Yamato rights away from him.

Please defend greedy producers with absolutely no creative drives and are only in it for money more, anon!

>>15357252
I really don't get why he's having such a hard time understanding this. He literally supervised everything along with all the other jobs he did for the series. He was a workaholic. There's extensive interviews and write ups on Star Blazers that are easily accessible. He has no excuse. Yamato's production process is probably the most well documented anime in history.

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>>15357651
>Yes, I literally said that they were cut short. None of them even got far enough to introduce their plot.

It had exactly the same length as the old Yamato manga by Lazy, which also ended abruptly. This third volume would need to be a total game changer to justify such a boring, uninteresting piece of garbage these first 2 volumes were building up. It doesn't help japanese fans also hated Eternal Fantasy and that ended abruptly as well. The same goes for Harlock Saga. Noticing a pattern here? Yeah, he always has an excuse, how much of his stuff got stalled due to mysterious circumstances? A lot of them. But it's always someone else who should take the blame, of course.

>>15357651
>Nishizaki gave Leiji COMPLETE control over the creative process of the series.
>the ship designs and the characters
Completely irrelevant.

Matsumoto worked under Nishizaki as his employee. By right what Matsumoto did for this anime project should rightfully belong to Nishizaki.

>Nishizaki taking credit for other people's work.
All Nishizaki did was make a sequel to a property HE owned. Matsumoto tried to steal that away from him.

>Please defend greedy producer
>durr hurr all producers are greedy baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw
You're a child.

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>>15357651
>He was a workaholic

Maybe I should remind everyone these are not only large blanks of nothing taking the majority of the page count. But large blanks of nothing made with the help of assistants.

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>>15357854
And it continues...

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>>15357861
And continues...

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>>15357870
Continues...

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>>15357873
End of the chapter. And Lazy calls it a day.

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If anyone wants to do some actual reading and learn some things I've collected some interviews and various articles.

http://ourstarblazers.com/vault/33/

>the issue of Space Battleship Yamato copyright was finally settled in May 2004. Leiji Matsumoto was awarded visual rights, Yoshinobu Nishizaki was awarded rights to the original story, and Tohokushinsa Film Corp. maintained its position as the master rights holder of Yamato products (making them a de facto participant in any new project).

http://ourstarblazers.com/vault/576/

See: Harlock section. Retains visual rights over his designs but not his story.

http://ourstarblazers.com/vault/32/

Earliest Leiji Matsumoto interview regarding Yamato
http://ourstarblazers.com/vault/303/

>Matsumoto: To be precise, Nishizaki lead the planning and the first draft, but when it comes to who participated in the story, that’s a bit vague. It was made by committee, perhaps? What I can say is, I remember I created most of the basic stories and ideas for episodes, including settings and details of battle scenes. I didn’t give out my ideas grudgingly, because it was a group-work.

Mastumoto's story rreatment for the first TV series:
http://ourstarblazers.com/vault/302

Matsumoto's story treatment for Farewell to Yamato:
http://ourstarblazers.com/vault/482

Matsumoto's story treatment for Be Forever Yamato:
http://ourstarblazers.com/vault/573

New Battleship Yamato (Possibly where Nishizaki got the idea from) Interestingly enough, in 1961 Leiji published a manga in 1961 featuring a rocketship named Yamato.
http://ourstarblazers.com/vault/120a/

Nishizaki interview: http://ourstarblazers.com/vault/559/

>>15358208
He didn't draw those in your picture. Just saying in case you don't know. And by the way, Matsumoto's word means nothing because he's a disgusting self-promoter and we know it. So sorry, you will need to do better than this.

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>>15358208
>>>15358208
> In the trial, Yoshinobu Nishizaki was certified as the original creator, but it was very much derived from stories and characters drawn by Leiji Matsumoto in the 1960s, including Submarine Super 99 and Lightspeed Esper.

Holy shit, these articles are biased as fuck. Kousoku Esper is not even his creation. It was just an adaptation of some old tokusatsu show he was commissioned to do. He was not even the only artist to work on it.

Dear /m/- the OP poster who is riding his personal campaign against Leiji Matsumoto (yet again) has a mental problem that he desperately wants to share. His taste is in his tongue only, and he will shamelessly spit whatever venom he can about anything LM-related he feels like. You want to see lack-of- talent, genuine ass-holery, and bias, OP?..Look in the mirror.

>>15358687
This. I've found that one of the only ways to get over one's envy of another person's work is to create something that you can take pride in yourself. Time to hit the drawing board, OP.

I know you can do it.

>>15358687
I'm just assuming the Lazyrager is either hardcore projecting, or still hasn't grasped that the 'Lazy Matsumoto' pun stopped being funny roughly 5 minutes after it was first introduced.

>>15358734
I can understand that. I too would like to be rich and famous while barely making any real effort or lacking talent to do so. Who wouldn't want to have it as easy as Lazy?

>>15353410
This is really inspiring. Now I feel that I'm ready to make my own comics.

>>15357854
Someone has to paint all those betas

Leiji isn't a really good artist, but I always had him as an episodic plot creator over anything. I can't think of any western show with as many great ideas as galaxy Express 999

>>15358877
The Twilight Zone?

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>>15358256
No shit it's not drawn by him, lad.

There are multiple people talking about him in those links, what are you on about? The story treatments literally have his name written on the covers. I'm more inclined to trust the Yamato experts as Star Blazers than random shitposter #99992929

>>15358687
I've figured that for a while now. Especially since he wants him dead.

>>15358414
Click the original source. Not saying you're wrong or anything, though. It's still pretty interesting to see where the idea might have came from and if Nishizaki wanted to adapt that Yamato thing but was too cheap to get the license to it. Although it probably wouldn't be a stretch to say that the Yamato is just an iconic piece of history so multiple people wanted to write stories about it.

>>15358886
Original Star Trek might also work.

>>15358890
Yamato is the name of ancient Japan. Judging by the japanese flags in that rocket, it's more likely a coincidence, unrelated to the battleship Yamato

>>15358687
The irony is that even if Matsumoto was as much a hack as Lazyrager keeps insisting, he's STILL accomplished more than Lazyrager ever had in his entire pathetic excuse for an existence.

>>15350528
>>15350539

So, from what I can tell, this is hourglass or pear-shaped women vs supermodels.

>>15358921
OP is probably still young, he has his entire life to live. It's not like you or anyone here is much different. But at least he might have the sense to not become a huge self-deluded asshole as big as Lazy.

>>15358962
>implying you're not Kazyrager

And this is the oerfect example if why we need thread poster IDs.

>>15358985
Agreed. Then you would realize what dumbasses you are for thinking it's just OP who can see what an insufferable hack Lazy is.

>>15359003
>88 replies
>only 27 posters
You're not fooling anyone, Lazyrager.

>>15350023
Huh?

>>15357854
>>15357861
>>15357870
>>15357873
>>15357877
Holy shit. Not only are these panels incomprehensible, Lazy repeated the drawings four fucking times.

>>15359507
>27 posters
>26 are Lazyfags

Yeah, sure. Whatever you say.

>>15361775
Stay mad, Lazyrager.

>>15361794
Stay dumb, whoever you are. Or should I nickname you after someone you're not as well?

>>15361899
Oh Lazyrager.

Queen Emeraldas was a huge letdown. I know I'm not buying that second volume. What a rip off.

>>15360545
Ignore

>>15364262
Lazy? Yeah, it's the best thing to do. Avoid at any cost.

>>15362787
We know, Lazyrager

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Leiji was an assistant to Tezuka during the 50s while still a student. Tezuka had him do many of the battle scenes.

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>>15364558
For the shoujo Phoenix manga.

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>>15364558
>>15364569

>>15364996
Did you quote the wrong post?

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>>15365010
Nope.

>>15365019
How is it relevant to what I posted about him being an assistant to Tezuka as a high school student?

Are you just downloading random manga from an author you dislike to prove a point no one agrees with you on? Really makes u think

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Why does everyone in his art look like deformed midgets and manlets? And his panelling is just awful even if the manga he makes may be decent enough.

>>15365077
Is this you?

what the fuck is this thread

>>15365753
Do you have multiple personality disorder?

>>15365753
Mentally ill man that has a grudge against an ironic manga artist. Makes these exact same threads and posts the same images as soon as the previous one dies. He's been at it for almost a year now.

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