Are there even AI-based plots that aren't "computer

>>15333899
I don't think Bolos do that too much

>>15333899
Neuromancer and Mona Lisa Overdrive? Ghost in the Shell too. But "computer improving itself" is similar to "computer learns feelings" even if it's not becoming human.

Oh, and Idoru and All Tomorrow's Parties. The AI had feelings to begin with iirc.

Asimov's I, Robot and Stanisaw Lem's comedic short stories about robots in The Cyberiad.

Lots of stuff really. How about Star Wars?

>>15333899
Digimon

>>15333899

Yes. Unfortunately, they are rare because the two plots you mentioned get used and reused over and over again.

Gargantia and Expelled From paradise both have good uses of AI. They were written by the same guy, and what they have in common is that AI only cares about what it was programmed to care about. They are very friendly and not evil, but despite their ability to hold a conversation they don't act like a person trapped in a box.

In Gargantia, the AIs are installed on mechs and are brotastic as fuck to their pilots, because their only purpose is to help their pilot achieve their stated objectives. The AIs never go crazy, but you can end up with a problem if the AI is tasked with a goal that is, itself, evil or misguided.

In Expelled from Paradise, the AI is still singlemindedly fulfilling the task that has been set for it be long dead creators. The mission it has sort of no longer matters, and indeed most people don't even know that the AI ever existed at all. But that doesn't matter to the AI, it was programmed with a set of objectives and hundreds of years later its still trying to fulfill them as politely as possible. Its objectives are not even directly harmful to anyone, but a lot of people are scared of it because the AI is very powerful and no one can control it anymore.

>>15334073
>Gargantia and Expelled From paradise both have good uses of AI
Wrong

>>15333899
Brave Express Might Gaine

>>15333899
Dave...

>>15334221
You can't deny that Chamber is a fucking bro though.

>>15334073

You could argue the AI in Paradise falls under the "learns feelings" heading, since if I recall correctly by the end it has started to develop independence from it's objective and the main character suggests it head off on it's own rather than try to recruit comrades.

Yukikaze.

>>15333899
RefleX has the ship itself ruthlessly kill all the enemies, and finally self-destructs itself when there isn't any left.

>>15333899
I want /m/ show in such a vein:
>Earth gets polluted to hell
>Humans leave for another world in a giant-ass ship in order for the planet to be left to nanomachines to clean it up and restore it to its former glory
>The ship's AI takes its job of guarding the frozen people very seriously
>Gets to the world that humans wanted to go to
>Finds out that there are multiple interstellar alien empires fighting over the place
>The ship AI sees this as a dangerous situation and tries to back off, yet the ship is blown out of the sky and hits the planet
>Humans in Danger. Commence Total War.
>Cue robotic armies conquering the world and then going into space to fight said empires (and liberating those aliens that were conquered by them)

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Automata.

Most movie makers always assume that computer wanted to become or mimic humans, but this is one of the few films that shows that AI can advance beyond human intelligence and will follows a different evolution path.

>>15333899
Metal Gear
>Computer manipulates feelings by selectively removing and creating context

Armored Core.
>Computer's just doing jobs but are antagonistic to goals of MC
>Chief and Nine Ball are fan favourites due to boss fight or personality
Badass pilots too

>>15334377

I dunno. Frontier Setter doesn't really change its behavior any or grow beyond what we already saw it do anyway. It was just super bummed that is was going to be forced to embark on its mission without a human crew. It was grateful to be told that it was 'human enough', because that let it check the final box and finally be all green.

>>15334465
> the protagonist is a random crewmember woken up out of cryosleep for the sole purpose of giving the AI verbal permission that it requires to take certain 'extreme actions' it doesn't have the authority to do without permission.
> the war has been going on so long that all of the important command staff are already dead. Each of them was woken up alone, just like the MC, and served the same job for the rest of their lives
> it's "too dangerous" to wake up anyone else, so everyone is left asleep until the war is won.

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>>15334221
>Wrong
wrong

Rendezvous with Rama?

Humans observe simple alien robots doing their thing.

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>>15333899
HAL did nothing wrong

I'd love it if there were more AI stories beyond fear-mongering "evil robots taking over the world" bullshit.

>>15335490
Be of good cheer, there's a bunch already listed in this thread!

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>>15335490
t. robot

>>15334028
Digimons are programed to be dependent on humans and be human's bitches.

>>15333899
Transformers?

>>15335755
Honestly they're less AI and more nuts and bolts based lifeforms

>>15334462
Doesnt that happen by the very last mission only? Throughout the rest of the game it's a human pilot at the front

>>15335779
Actually with the introduction of sparks, Transformers are more energy beings that inhabit mechanical bodies rather than pure AIs

>>15335490
Seconding.

>>15333899
Moon is a harsh mistress, obviously, but the plot there doesnt revolve around AI - though it is a major element.

>>15335755
>>15335779
>>15336544
What IDW Transformers series are actually worth reading? I want to get into them, but i have no nostalgia (didnt watch them as a kid) and very basic knowledge about the universe, and the number of different series with flashbacks and different timelines.

>>15333899
The Third: The Girl with the Blue Eye.

There are great A.I.'s in that anime.

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>>15336513

The pilot dies to ZODIAC Virgo.

Ophiuchus also seemed to not give any fucks about killing things even when the other ZODIACs were not around. both in ALLTYNEX Second and Kamui (although it's essentially already a trashbin in Kamui).

>>15335081
Nice one.

>>15335239
Chamber was too good for this sinful earth.

was that chick in outlaw star a robot? what about big o?

>>15337819
Nah, Melfina was the physical avatar for a spaceship. Same for that pigtailed gal in Lost Universe.

On that note, does Leopard from The Girl Who Leapt Through Space count?

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>>15337819
>>15337824
It's never strictly explained as even Gwen Khan didn't fully understand how he created Melfina. But although she is artificially created she is still mostly a meat bag (originally stored in some kind of cyro-container, Gene even says up close he couldn't tell if she wasn't human)

>>15333899
Literally the entire Brave franchise.

>>15333899
Asimov's Daneel Olivaw.

Nine and Nevanlinna from SRW V.

>>15340540
I'd also count MULTIVAC in "The Last Question" for that style.

(And, of course, if you really just want a "computer learns feelings/becomes human" story, Bicentennial Man can't be beat.)

How's Destination: Void and it's sequels hold up? The first book certainly had a couple of crazy AIs, but I understand by the time the rest of the plot kicks in, that changes.

>>15340391
The first three Braves and Goldran aren't AI, they're aliens or ancient spirits.

>I want AI to be an actual character and have agency on the plot but I also want it not to be able to make any decisions on it's own.

are you ok retard??

>>15333981
Ghost in the Shell is "computer meeting god and becoming an angel and then making a girl become one too"

>>15338894
>Other
>Broken Heart

JESUS. Never noticed that part when I watched this show.

I thought SAC's Tachikoma plot was pretty neat and nonderivative

>>15340597
Which GitS is that?
pls don't say three 1995 movie because then I'll feel bad

>>15335490
Like every other Brave series

>>15335383
He literally didn't, the guy who gave him his second set of orders was a mouth breathing retard who somehow though that giving a computer two sets of mutually exclusive orders wasn't going to end in misery for everyone involved

>>15341415
anyone? pls?

>>15334465
>>15335081
Mind if I turn this into a novel?

>>15333981

Holy shit, someone else has read The Cyberiad? NICE. Great stuff!

As for >>15333899 I'd recommend checking out pretty much the entire Culture series by Iain M. Banks. Humans and machines live with each other on more-or-less equal terms - the Mind of a Ship is much, MUCH smarter than a human being, but they're benign. Smaller Drones tend to be smarter than humans as well, or at least process quicker, but are again typically benign. There are of course exceptions in the form of Eccentrics, but in Culture society being a psychotic murdermachine that can kill planets is generally frowned upon, and a Mind that goes rogue has a VERY close eye kept on it by other Minds.

Though I suppose the Culture novels aren't so much AI-Based Plots as it is an AI-Filled Setting.

Another example, though it gets closer to what you want to avoid, is the situation that gets revealed in the later novels of the Hyperion Cantos (a different series, by Dan Simmons), where the AI have split away from humanity and largely keep to themselves (until it's revealed that they're meddling in a pretty big way in human affairs).

I'd check those out, along with >>15333981's suggestions which are also excellent.

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>>15341415
It's the manga.
And even though it's less explicitly supernatural, the 95 movie relies on the same background (the puppetmaster appears as an angel, and is able to magically jump from one computer to the other instead of copying itself like a computer virus)

Once you realize that, the whole plot of the 95 movie becomes "welp, turns out ghosts and psychic powers really exist after all!" and the whole introspective questioning about the nature of identity and the self becomes entirely pointless, because souls exist and can survive autonomously.

But really it's fine, it's a ghost story, not hard sci-fi.

Oh, also memes are real.

>>15345872
puppet master's rack is top tier

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>>15345905
Damn right!

The name is "Project 2501" by the way.

>>15345659
Gladly. Just don't give it a overly-long title.

>>15345798
I'll be sure to check this out.

>>15345931
>>15345872
what a smug memebot she is

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>>15336948
if you just want a short story to dip your toes in i recommend last stand of the wreckers, its not perfect mind you but its a tight little story that has no backstory that you need to look up.

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>>15349525
also, another good place to start if you want a 50+ issue series is more than meets the eye.

Weren't Gundam wing's mobile dolls pretty well behaved?

>>15338894
5'2" and 130lbs? Not as light as I was expecting.

>>15345872

And then things get REALLY fucky with "Man Machine Interface". I've read through that twice and it still makes my brain itch. Like, I basically get what's going on, but the pacing and delivery is just completely bonkers.

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>>15334028