Kamen Rider Ghost The Movie – 100 Eyecons and Ghost’s Moment

>>15297249
Alright, now I can start watching Ghost!

>>15297249
You've struggled greatly for this.

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>>15297249
Takeru losses his virginity

oh

more ghost

"yaay"

Oh yeah, can't wait to revisit all those memorable and well written characters and the most engaging Rider MC in years.
I'm definitely gonna download that at some point.

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Da Vinci and Billy the Kid were Japanese? Cool

I forgot Rinko was in this movie.
Neat

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yoooooooooo we 555 now!

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Why?

>>15297319
Gotta shill Kishidan

>>15297312
Fuwa Juzo is alive.

Those historical figures costumes look cheaper than cosplays in a low tier anime convention.

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>muh dick

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>they didn't get the qt girl who was possessed by Himiko to be Himiko
i'm fucking mad.

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>>15297338
At least they got chameleon slut

>>15297335
>the PNG MPC file is too heavy to upload
kek, http://imgur.com/a/HuRWF

Alain gets over the shock of seeing his 100 year old dead brother way too fucking quick lol.

>Argos? You are dead
>Nope lol
>Alright

>>15297372
You mean to say...Ghost has bad writing?

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Even Takeru is like "Seriously, Kanon?"

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>those unfinished effects
>that unfinished ex-aid choreography
>that unfinished M voice
awwww thats adorable

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>Cap Goemons face because it's silly
>Get this hilarious Takeru one instead.

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>Those leftover Helheim props though

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>>15297421
I legitimately thought it was Helheim for a bit since the plants are everywhere.

This' movie pacing is fucking terrible.

>>15297431
Just like Ghost, then.

>>15297319
The sudden Kishidan out of nowhere was very jarring. This entire starting bit just feels like it's out of left field introducing you to all the heroes.

>>15297439
>introducing you to all the heroes.
Who then get "killed" about five minutes later

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I like how the new Rider always for some reason knows what exactly is happening and the people actually involved are more confused.

>Takeru's motivation is literally "GHOSTS CAN'T EAT DINNER. I WANT TO EAT DINNER!"

I know the meaning to it, but the fucking delivery is so goddamn dumb.

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>>15297455
Dinner is what all true warriors strive for.

>>15297455
Argos did nothing wrong

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I missed Jobber Alain

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>>15297459

>Takeru actually successfully kills himself
Jesus fucking christ I feel like I'm watching Kiva again

>They all start laughing at the dinner thing and that solves everything
THIS IS SO FUCKING STUPID

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Too bad all he did was job. He was a nice guy, if not almost pointless

They went the entire movie without a joke/reference to Faiz.
Kaidou's actor was wasted in all his scenes.

This movie like the show gets worse and worse the more you watch it
It had pacing problems, useless characters and few things made sense.


At least Akari looked cute, nice hair.

>>15297488
H-haiyai!

>>15297488
This reminds me when Spectre had clockup, and then was forgotten about.

>>15297488
You know, this raises a question.

Where the fuck was Grateful? It wasn't like the Eyecons were gone yet in that village fight, they were just Eyecons.

Hell, if he used it then he could've possibly gotten hilariously strong thanks to there being like 100 or so Heroic Eyecons. It's not like they're held off, they will fucking fly to Takeru and even pull Necrom and Specter out of their alt forms if they happen to be using them at the same time.

It's like even Toei doesn't like acknowledging it.

Where did Argos even get Takeru's body? And why him? The movie doesn't even explain the world they're in well or even Makoto's father.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>15297512
>, if he used it then he could've possibly gotten hilariously strong thanks to there being like 100 or so Heroic Eyecons
>initiate henshin
>takes like 2 or 3 minutes just to get all the eyecons together and into the grateful belt
>end the fight and the voice calling the hero's names keep going for another 10 minutes
it would have made for some comedy.

>>15297523
The latter half of the movie would be the transformation jingle, followed by the finisher announcement.

>>15297547
Thank god the SFX people got their shit together by Ghost's final episode

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Sound:
>>>/wsg/1580546

>>15297249
>Overshit subs this piece of shit
>But they didn't touch Ex-aid because MUH QUALITY SERIES
>They still haven't subbed any more Yoshihiko episodes
I miss the TVN golden era

>>15297567
Calm down, sperg, it's not even their main staff

>>15297472
I felt nothing for his death as every scene he was in I just recalled Makoto spending two episodes shouting about "YEAH TAKERU, BUT MY DAD WOULDN'T DO THAT" and then I would laugh.

>>15297462
All those sparks. Are they still using pyrotechnics or is everything CG now? I can't see the patches in the suit like in the days of Ryuki.

>>15297787
some of them are cg, specifically the ones where it makes contact and starts spinning the chainsaw
but squib technology has come a long way my friend

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if you didn't get the reference here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DDHcVtZL38&t=60s

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Tut must have had a healthy diet for a twelve year old.

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It's nice to see sailor otaku still getting work in the biz.

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Dammit, Onari! There's no time for that!

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Would have been funnier to just leave all of ex-aid's lines unsubbed.

>>15297977
That line was quite unfortunate.

>>15297922

I saw this originally in gaki no tsukai batsu and I can't understand what the original thought is, but holy shit, I couldn't stop laughing my ass off

>>15297762
Same , it just felt so rushed like Kanon and his dad had 1 scene , Makoto and him had one scene and one quick fight and he Makoto was all forgiving after he saved Kanon like ... ok so what? What was the point of him.

>>15297488

Why does Dark Ghost have his own Sunglasslasher?

>>15297994
Huh. Check out Ex-Aid's belt. The stunt belt in the actual show has a black background for the Gashat image, but this one's white.

>>15297421

They're using them in Kyuranger too.

>The only way O-T could put this film out was if someone else tl'd it, because Heat would more than likely have blown his brains out

At least it's out, I guess.

I got the right place this time.

>>15298819
Can't blame Heat, this movie is terrible.

>>15298819
>>15298827
Heat still did an editing pass on it to subdue some of my ESLness. Don't be hard on the guy!

>>15298819
At least someone put in the effort to translate it, and that's something we should be thankful for no matter what quality the movie itself was.

Honestly, I feel like the movie is basically the same as the show as a whole: I like parts of it quite a bit, it's just that there's sloppiness that keeps it from being as good as it could be. The thing where Argos points out being a ghost is basically all upside, and Takeru's upset afterward about not having a good answer to that, is some good shit. The awkwardness of his eventual answer could be cute if people were more inclined to view Takeru charitably as a character, which they obviously aren't given half this thread is people shitting on the show.

I think one more round of story revision could have made Ghost into a pretty phenomenal show, and the movie is essentially the same thing in miniature. One good editing pass to cut the choppy parts out and focus on the good parts would have made this a much better film. As it stands, it's still better than something like Movie Wars Core, but it could have been an A to Z and it just wasn't focused enough to get there.

>>15298819

Maybe Heat should focus his time on more important things people actually care about.

Like Timeranger.

And Dekaranger.

And finishing Ryuki GOD DAMN IT.

>>15299189
>And finishing Ryuki GOD DAMN IT.
Is not heat who is at fault for Ryuki not being finished yet.

>>15299200

People keep saying Heat and Sub-Vent are one in the same. Other people say they aren't.

>They stole the eyecons
>so they could take them to another world where they come to life
>They could kill them and steal the eyecons
Someone please explain to me what I am missing.

>>15299207
He's not saying Heat isn't Sub-Vent, lrn2subtext

Can I watch this without having to finish Ghost?

>>15299189
Pretty sure Heat's already done TLs for a lot of those, what they need is editing/timing etc

>>15299084
I feel like Takeru's eventual answer could have used like 1 or 2 more lines to expand it and make it more real, as it is it just comes across pretty stupid. Yet, the movie and characters treat it as if its some profound thing. Which goes back to one of the big problems the series had where every single member of the main cast couldn't stop worshipping Takeru at all times

>>15299280
Yeah. It barely mentions the tv show villains. It does have a spoiler for a reveal regarding Sage though that only happened around episode 40.

>>15299189

Heat allegedly finished the TLs a long time ago. It's just that he has no one to edit/time (which is what takes the most time and effort).

>>15299231
Probably because it erased their memories of Takeru so they'd be less likely to rebel, which still ends up happening by the end anyway.

>>15299604
Then that brings up the question of why people at O-T are more willing to edit/time fucking Ghost than Timeranger. Does Maurice control O-T or some shit?

>>15299305
That's the sort of thing I mean. If they'd cut out some of the weak parts and used that time to expand the good scenes, given a bit more time to the idea of Takeru's body being used as the base for the Eyecon, given Argos and Makoto's dad just a bit more development, this could have been a pretty great movie. The basic structure for a good movie is there, and there are points where it delivers. It just doesn't deliver consistently, which is the same problem Ghost as a whole has. I don't think Ghost is a terrible show, but I think it's a mediocre show, and this is a mediocre movie.

So how many times has Takeru died now?

Why is it he has used more "continues" than Ex-aid?

>>15300424
He dies four times. Once at the start of the show, once to get Boost, once in this movie, once to get Mugen.

Ex-Aid declares all the fucking time that he's not going to use any continues, so I don't know why you're surprised. Even if Takeru only died to become a ghost, 1 is still greater than 0.

>>15300438
Apparently he dies again in Heisei Generations as well

>>15297346
I thought it was Rinna from Drive???

>>15297945
>No "I am Edison"
0/10 wasted potential

just like the rest of ghost

>>15297448
>Takeru witnesses Ex-Aid's cameo when he first sees him in the finale

Simply ebin, same as last year. Funny how these debuts make no sense in these new years of movies and extra shit all connected to the show's continuity when the first few ones were actually acknowledged across the Megamax Trilogy.

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>>15300581
Hopefully via pic-related, for maximum laughs.

>>15300638

>I thought it was Rinna from Drive???

you confused that hag with Mele? Sacrilege

>>15302426
>Rinna is a hag
i will fight you one on one

>>15302395
No it's not funny at all, it's been clear ever since OOO that only the W team ever gave a shit about continuity and that all other showrunners specifically work against them.

Only three Heisei shows actually have any continuity, nothing else ever fits or ever will.

>Makoto totally ok with attacking his then unarmed dad transformed
I guess jobbing to Nao Nagasawa does that to you, still a dick.

>Alain noy doing shit...and getting his most important win ever
>Daigo not wanting to tell Makoto the truth to not involve him in the fight despite him being literally a rider and therefore balls deep into the fight
Heck between that and the whole problem with Argos Daigo would be at home in Faiz.


Also, Ex Aid can somehow go to this world, can somehow see ghosts on Earth, and managed to beat a rider that gave trouble to endgame Necrom, and Genm made both endgame Necrom and Specter job. Like, this is beyond new rider hype, its pretty much bullying the ghost riders at this point.

What a shit movie.

>>15299084
>it's still better than something like Movie Wars Core
I'd watch Core all day every day over this shit just because that has the W and OOO casts.

Can we talk for a moment about Argos' driver?

He was supposedly good, died a long time ago, Edith recently(within the last 10 years) gave him his driver and the opportunity to come back to life by gathering eyecons.

Argos was not a bad guy or evil or anything before... so why does his driver say things like dark rider, the power of darkness and evil in excess. Thats really stupid.

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>>15302395
>>15302877


Anon, you're the one that doesn't make sense and isn't in continuity.

The plot of Ghost was shit, but I still enjoyed seeing those characters again. Also, are we pretending any of the movies are more than mediocre?

>>15303170
Maybe his eyecon got corrupted after he decided to turn everyone into ghosts. We didn't see him transform in the past, did we?

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>>15299084
I really enjoyed this movie. One of the best things to come out of Ghost. However, I have to agree with you. I found the good parts REALLY good. Yet I feel like this movie needed more time. To that end, what I really want to say is this:

I wish the premise of this movie was the real ending to Ghost. The setting is wickedly charming and works the historical figures into the story very well, unlike the show which hardly gave a shit. It's themes and its ultimate challenge (Dark Ghost and his ideas about being a ghost) fits so much better to the themes of the show than fighting a weirdo super computer from another dimension. It's reward (all the legendary souls coming together to use their soul power to give Takeru another chance at life) is also WAY more fitting than said weirdo super computer granting you life just because it thinks your nice and worthy. The way the final boss gets immensely powerful is authentically threatening, though I wish the exposition a bit further on how it worked. For example, by using Darwin's wisdom about evolution against these 100 Eyecons Argos could find common genetic traits among them that make them legendary and essentially figure a way to make an Eyecon of a "perfect person". In this context, Extremer is a hell of lot cooler and more dangerous. Again, if only all of this had more time to build itself up.

The world of legendary heroes should have essentially just been the end game for Ghost, with Adel being finished off by the end of mid-season and replaced with Argos as lead villain. If it had the time of the final third to develop itself, I almost thino it could have saved Ghost from being completely terrible and end the story on a sweet note.

As for the reality we have though, I'm just gonna have my headcannon say Ghost actually ended at this move. For as cramped and flawed as it is, it's still pretty good and it's the best Ghost's got right now unless Specter's movie turns out amazing.

>>15303266
It's worth noting that Takuro Fukuda stopped writing the main show from Deep Specter's debut until that two parter with detective Jiraiya. Presumably he was focusing on writing the movie during that time.

If Fukuda and the producers had focused building this plot line into the show and given the movie to a secondary writer instead of fucking around for like 15 episodes, Ghost may have at least had a decent to mediocre ending instead of a wet fart.

>>15303266
>>15303302

I wouldn't be surprised if that was the original intent. Argos' whole Ganma faction basically comes out of nowhere, but it'd be no issue if the enemy still was the Ganma World.

The Great Eye also first appeared as a character in the Legend Rider net movies, which weren't even written by the main writer.

>>15297498
>This reminds me when Mach had clockup, and then was forgotten about.
>This reminds me when Diend had clockup, and then was forgotten about.

>>15303362
>I wouldn't be surprised if that was the original intent.
So retool confirmed?

Also, what the fuck happened to Zero Specter?

>>15303528
Less retool, more tue movie needed a plot and apparently nobody was smart enough to think of anything. So they decided to jack the show of a possibly great final arc befitting the story because a season for soke reason can't got without a summer movie.

Really, if anybody on staff had a lick of sense they should have made the movie about the super computer acting up and made the show about Argos and the 100 souls instead of the other way around. The Great Eye's being a character was introduced in supplementary material anyway. May as well continue the trend.

>>15304322
>Less retool, more tue movie needed a plot and apparently nobody was smart enough to think of anything. So they decided to jack the show of a possibly great final arc befitting the story because a season for soke reason can't got without a summer movie.
So literally a retool. Fucking over the plot for convenience.

>>15303262
Not that anon but when they give him the eyecon you can see it saying Dark Ghost even if he doesn't use it in the past. The reason is of course, from the production side.

>>15303260
mediocre sounds better than what this was.

>>15303266
>unlike the show which hardly gave a shit
Did you even watch the show or just misread /m/ posts about it? The historical figures were pretty relevant during the show, one of the main subplots was about them and they got a post Mugen episode entirely dedicated to saying they're still useful which is way more than early show gimmicks get.

>>15304333
Yeah, but retool implies intent. At least it does in this context of driving this show.

I guess you could say it was retooled, but it doesn't seem like "a retool" in the context of producing a Kamen Rider season. That was just collateral damage made as a result of the writing staff being lazy and unclever in finding a plot for the traditional summer movie.

>>15304322
>Less retool, more tue movie needed a plot and apparently nobody was smart enough to think of anything. So they decided to jack the show of a possibly great final arc befitting the story because a season for soke reason can't got without a summer movie.

There's also how Gaim's summer movie had a fairly low box office (lowest summer movie, barely beating Kamen Rider 1), so Toei likely will avoid giving the summer movie to a secondary writer again.

>>15304377
Which is just as well, since Takahashi wants his hands on anything Ex-Aid.

>>15304356
That was more about the Eyecons being useful rather than celebrating the historical figures though.

Really by the end of Ghost, they could have been the souls of anybody. The reason the specific ten were chosen was crap too. I don't even think there was any reason.

Overall, the historical aspect of Ghost gets made out to feel like they added to give the gimmick an indentity other than just eyeballs. The town of trapped 100 souls would a better climax for said souls and move on from the stupid "ten Eyecons of randomly chosen famous people can still grant you a wish, Takeru~". Having the souls of 100 legendary people connecting with Takeru be the reason Takeru comes back to life instead of a computer, which didn't even need Eyecons mind you, would have wrapped all the elements of Ghost together much better.

>>15304389
Turning the entire world into ghost is also a better final plan than turning everyone into faggots.

>>15304389
>That was more about the Eyecons being useful rather than celebrating the historical figures though.
And they were useful because Takeru considered they could still learn from them, because they're, you know, historical figures.
And that's ignoring the mentioned subplot about him bonding with them.

>Really by the end of Ghost, they could have been the souls of anybody.
Not really, as the reasons he bonded with each of the souls were related to them.

What else did you expect? An interesting insightful statement about world History and how it revolves around historical figures? A defense of the Great Man Theory? Its a kids show.

Ghost is shit, but blame it for the things it actually did wrong.

>>15304389
>Really by the end of Ghost, they could have been the souls of anybody. The reason the specific ten were chosen was crap too. I don't even think there was any reason.
It's given in the 2nd Hyper Battle Video, but it's rather generic and doesn't even apply to all of them, it's mostly there for the special's own hardwork theme.

The reason Dad didn't chose you... was because Leonard Da Vinci was a genius! The Great Heroes chose their own path, believed in it and followed it until their lives burned out! Not geniuses, but people who followed their own paths through effort! That why Dad chose those 15 Great Heroes!

>>15304433
>An interesting insightful statement about world History and how it revolves around historical figures? A defense of the Great Man Theory?
For a show about an uncommon fanboy of both history, the historical figures that make history, and life? Yes.

The historical element is watered down and gets drowned even worse as the show goes on. Yeah, they say he can learn from them. But what? Does he even get anymore out of them from that point forward? That whole subplot seemed more like a frantic way to write off how Mugen is unable to help Takeru despite how OP it is and how it looked like it already saved Takeru.

A Kamen Rider based on ghosts is one thing that was bound to happen since that theme is one where the toys virtually make themselves . One based history is another thing, which doesn't deserve to be half-assed because history hardly gets it chance to shine to kids properly. It could have made Ghost really stand out as a season of Kamen Rider.

>>15304433
>Its a kids show.
And so were the shows that had serial killers, organizations that pretty much have genocide as part of their plan, a guy who murders his own father and it's a GOOD thing, and a crazy dude who uses the Y2K bug to make SARS.

Saying it's a kid's show is a shitty excuse to justify its shortcomings.

>>15304434
>It's given in the 2nd Hyper Battle Video
Which we'll never ever see.

Thanks, based Toei.

>>15304434
>hardwork
>Rider spends twenty days of his remaining life doing jack and shit.

>>15304477
>For a show about an uncommon fanboy of both history, the historical figures that make history, and life? Yes.
Your expectations are completely wrong then. Watch other franchises.

>>15304486
>And so were the shows that had serial killers, organizations that pretty much have genocide as part of their plan, a guy who murders his own father and it's a GOOD thing, and a crazy dude who uses the Y2K bug to make SARS.
>I swear, I-its not for kids because it has this things the teletubbies wouldnt do! its totalle mayture!!!

>Saying it's a kid's show is a shitty excuse to justify its shortcomings.
Knowing its a kids show means you wont be dissapointed by it not doing thing its not supposed to.
Also, I never used that to justify Ghost's many shortcomings. The matter at hand isn't a shortcoming at all.

>>15304503
>>I swear, I-its not for kids because it has this things the teletubbies wouldnt do! its totalle mayture!!!
That's not what he said at all you strawman piece of shit

>>15304509
>calls me a strawman piece of shit
>while defending a post that does the exact same thing

>>15304515
Then surely you should be above that?

>>15304523
If you hate strawmanning this much then you should criticize all who're doing it. Learn to consistency.

>>15304503
>History is, like, too hard, mannn.
>Kids won't get it. It's, like, too boring.
Your kind of thinking is what's wrong with modern education. Treating shit that shouldn't be hard for a kid to understand like it's automatically rocket science because it's not basic addition/subtraction or ABCs.

Nothing that I have mentioned or suggested should be considered off limits to kids' shows and Ghost consequently should not be allowed these kinds of excuses for not integrating these things better.

>>15304543
> Treating shit that shouldn't be hard for a kid to understand like it's automatically rocket science because it's not basic addition/subtraction or ABCs.
What you said you expected from this wasn't elementary school stuff though.
Also, at no point I said history is hard for kids as it is, but Kamen Rider is not an educational show. If you like those, there are plenty to watch, watch those.

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>>15304503
>>I swear, I-its not for kids because it has this things the teletubbies wouldnt do! its totalle mayture!!!
No. I'm saying that kid's shows are allowed to do deep topics, but please, strawman me.

I'll strawman back and say you're that kind of person who wants to have CN cancel good shows in favor of Teen Titans Go.

>>15304607
>kid's shows are allowed to do deep topics
>therefore every single one should

>I'll strawman back
You already did by pulling the usual "someone say this show is for kids, therefore they're saying its totally fine for them to be shit" the toku fanbase usually does.

>>15304615
Ah. Okay.

How about not filling the show with 15 boring as fucking characters?

It sucked as a toy gimmick and for the story.
The forms and weapons were boring.
The weapons sucked.
Literally and only good part for the ghosts as characters was I Am Edison. And Musashi having relevance in the back story.

>>15297288
WE

>>15304636
They're only as boring as you write and act them.

Also, we technically already had them in the show with some of them having a 2-episode arc or more even.

>>15304601
>It's above elementary to explore what good these legendary people have done for the world even though this show started working on that idea
>Main Character model's himself after historic people and spends just about every episode lecturing side characters about how good life is and why being alive is good
>Taking that all to a climax simlar to the movie within the show is now somehow too hard
Don run a marathon if you can't run, kid. Ghost decided its themes, not us. The writers have no one to blame but themselves for carrying them as well as they could or as well as other shows could.

>>15304780
>It's above elementary to explore what good these legendary people have done for the world even though this show started working on that idea
No, but talking about things like the great man theory might be. Or at the very least, pointless to do on a show that's also supposed to have episodic action to sell toys when it can be explored better elsewhere.
Saying what they've done for the world is not too complicated, and if you were able to read you'd read the part in my post where I said that. That said, the show is not an educational show and no amount of complaining on your part will change that.

>Taking that all to a climax simlar to the movie within the show is now somehow too hard
I literally never said it was, if it was, they wouldn't have made the movie at all in the first place. I'm not even defending the show or the movie, my point is that the show did give a shit about the historical figures.

>Don run a marathon if you can't run, kid. Ghost decided its themes, not us. The writers have no one to blame but themselves for carrying them as well as they could or as well as other shows could.
Ghost is a Kamen Rider show, said franchise is a super hero show that acts as toy commercial for kids. If you want something that is not a super hero show that acts as toy commercial for kids but a History documentary instead try watching something that is a History documentary instead of this. It's as simple as that. If you want to know what Newton did beyond the tidbits on the show you can google it.

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>>15304803
I'm not asking for documentaries. That's a hyperbolic inference you are taking. Again, not that I think children couldn't handle that. Furthermore, it's hyperbolic to say that history and historical figures can only be explored through documentary.

Many shows has explored historical figures and characters from different periods in history. Primarily they explored their character, which that of the Eyecons get sidelined by the Great Eye.

The show became less about celebrating the history of life and the notable people who lived it for a goddamn alien computer who went "Fuck it, you beat me up too much. I now believe everything you say and will give your life back. I'm going to SPAAACE".

Nothing wrong or complicated about asking for an extension of the movie to replace Ghost's ending. Not asking this extension to turn into Takeru going around town recording biographies of the souls inhabiting the Eyecons. Their is more a human than their accomplish anon. Their character is far more important as it was what carried them to it.

So it would be much better to Takeru's character to actually hang out with idols as people and throughout this premise of the movie gain a couple of more insightful tidbits of wisdom from them before facing the final boss Argos. Not only does it get the Eyecons and the souls trapped within more involved with the story, but it also manages to stick with the themes of the power of historical figures. It would develop Takeru's character more if he actually spent personal time with the famous dead folk in the town and on the way to Argos because that would make Argos's rebuttal to life even harder for Takeru to answer. "You seem to enjoy spending time here with your idols, engaging in art, experiments, and sportsmanship with them. What's so terrible about letting everyone be ghosts?"

Nothing here gets in the way of toy shilling or Rider action unless you are so allergic to history that you go selectively blind during the action.

>>15304924
Yeah, being a show about historical figures and an entertaining kid's show in their own right don't have to be mutually exclusive concepts, just look at Histeria!, for instance. It's all a question of whether or not one can execute it well.

>>15304924
>Furthermore, it's hyperbolic to say that history and historical figures can only be explored through documentary.
Less hypercolib than saying the show doesn't give a shit about historical figures just because it also focuses on something else.

The rest of your post is you arguing about shit I'm not contesting.

>>15305076
It's a slight exaggeration. Though I will argue it's still really shitty to have the overarching plot revolve around trying to understand a computer that is sentient enough to change the way it functions, making that tedious research a waste of time. That I will fully admit to.

However, you seem to seriously insist that media can only produce content revolving around history via documentaries.

The Great Eye should have been destroyed as it would made greater suspense than its persistence and annoying behavior made. Making the final stretch about of show Takeru essentially enjoying the afterlife learning and having fun with his idols do what they love would have done more for both Takeru's character and the souls' characters than "Mugen too OP. We have insecurity now".

Getting the souls to understand (or re-understand) Takeru's passion for life in the movie was already a better way of getting the heroic souls to come together with Takeru post-Mugen. So even what little the show brought to keep the souls relevant pales in comparison to what the movie gave.

So yes, I am criticizing the show as it exists for what it actually doing wrong: On top of being boring, what little it decides to do is weak and stuff like what goes on in this movie proves it.

>>15305111
>However, you seem to seriously insist that media can only produce content revolving around history via documentaries.
I don't, I used it as an example of something on historical figures the way you seem to think a non educational show should. Sure, you can have an action show focused on historical figures that's not a documentary, and the reason because you can its because there's a spectrum between "not giving a shit about historical figures" and "outright documentary about them" and my point is that Ghost not being on one extreme doesn't mean it's on the other.

>So yes, I am criticizing the show as it exists for what it actually doing wrong
All of the rest you described is Ghost's execution about its themes, not whether it gives a shit about historical figures which is what I'm contesting. As I said millions of times, I'm not saying Ghost is good, I think its shit.

>>15305130
Just because you're obliged to give a imprisoned hostage scraps, doesn't mean you actually care about them. Knowingly handing in a D-grade assignment doesn't mean you actually gave a shit about your work.

That's what I mean by "not giving a shit", if that helps. The family of the hostage and the teacher receiving the assignment would get what I mean and say just as much.

>>15305508
>Just because you're obliged to give a imprisoned hostage scraps, doesn't mean you actually care about them.
Which isn't what happened since the historical figures were featured on Ghost and had multiplie episodes and a long subplot about them.

>>15305130
>I think its shit.
Bland does not equal shit.
Anybody who shits on Ghost, especially around here, probably wasn't around to watch kiva in the day.

I don't even like Ghost, but it's not getting a fair shake compared to other bland things we've gotten in the past.

>>15304636
>It sucked as a toy gimmick

Fuck you eyecons are awesome.

>>15305111
>Making the final stretch about of show Takeru essentially enjoying the afterlife learning and having fun with his idols do what they love would have done more for both Takeru's character
Except that went against everything Takeru had wanted to do all series and his come back to life plot.
I'm not saying it was handled well, it was shit, but your shitty fanfiction wouldn't make it any better.

>>15303260
>Also, are we pretending any of the movies are more than mediocre?
Fourze and Drives were solid

>>15305964
Not saying it as something Takeru would do with a clear mind. I am speaking of it more like an impulse. Taking a bit of the apple, as it were. A town like this should be Takeru's wet dream. Forget books, you live with and learn from these people forever! Before watching the movie that was the impression I had gotten. Actually give something that pit's Takeru's admiration of these people against his desire to live again.

However, he essentially ignored all of it. It's like coming home to a well crafted surprise party and prentending nobody's around.

I would say that was one fault of the movie. Advertising the town as a focal point of the movie yet most of its screentime is establishing shots and it getting destroyed. It should have been used as a poison that Takeru's character sorely lacked taking. Making Takeru always be on the right track was what made him boring. This was finally the time to actually give this guy viewers don't particularly care for some challenging inner conflict of character.

Ghost was pretty good. That said, when are you guys completing Type Tokujo?

>>15305685
You're taking what I am saying out of context. I am speaking of the final parts of the show where it was set in the back burner for Great Eye shenanigans. Dropping the ball and such.

The fuck, the translator said he was miserable every time he touched ghost, why would he do this/

>>15306681
he didnt? did you read the post like at all?

Kanon was really cute in this movie.

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>>15297249
Why is the post playing Who's That Guy?
Not that I'm complaining.

so what? Did the Ghost movie actually kill the thread or have i missed something?