What does /m/ think about American """kaiju&q

>>15272207
Pacific Rim vs King Kong vs Godzilla when

>>15272207
i loved the original King Kong an pacific rim
Enjoyed American godzilla 2.0

Mighty joe young (remake and original) are underrated, especially the remake with based bill Paxton

Hated cloverfield

>>15272219
Never considering how awful PR2 is going to bomb.

Godzilla vs Kong might still be in the cards depending on how well Skull island does.

I couldn't bring myself to enjoy King Kong after the stop motion started, I know it was revolutionary for its time but it was just poorly done from an animation perspective. Godzilla '54 aged much better as suitmation than King Kong did as stop motion.

IT AINT MEEEE

>>15272207
New Kong movie is actually getting pretty decent reviews.

Anybody on /m/ going to go see it?

>>15275490
I am.

>>15275490
>>15275699
>>15272207
I am so going to see Kong: Skull Island. As a fan of the original 1933 King Kong and lifelong fan of Godzilla, seeing any giant monster movie on the big screen is a must. Looks cool anyways. Love the trailer

>>15272207
>"""kaiju"""
Oh fuck off it means "giant monster" and yes, tons of western ones exist.
>inb4 people try to assert there's any difference between anime and cartoons

>>15275490
Does it have dinosaurs?

>>15278958
Okay, It doesn't what a piece of shit.

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>>15272207
Honestly, Its a great time to be alive. I mean when how long has it been since American monster movies were made regularly? The 60s maybe into the early 70s? I'm just glad that there are new Kaiju films coming out to feed my addiction for Giant Monsters and I enjoy seeing American takes on the Genre.

Kong looks great, Godzilla 2 should be kickass, a bit worried about Pacific Rim since the name change and no Del Toro.

Rampage seems like it will be dumb but fun

>>15279078
I wonder if Dwayne knows what he's getting into and will have a blast.

>>15272207
I liked Kong '76 and Godzilla '98 as a kid. Those were the only giant monster movies, American or otherwise, that I was able to see, so I had no point of reference.

Hoped that PR and Godzilla '14 would get me hyped up for more, but that didn't happen. Don't care for Skull Island either. Not that it doesn't look okay from what I saw of it so far, but the excitement just isn't there.

I hated Pacific Rim, Burgerzilla bored me to tears and Kong doesn't seem all that promising. I'm still going to watch every single one of these movies they keep pumping out because I'm a complete kaiju whore.

Take off the quotation marks you faglord, you are the cancer that is killing the kaiju fanbase

I didn't like PR

I loved G14

Going to see Skull Island

Bonus opinion: Shin Godzilla:

Thought it was okay, needed MUCH better characters and a much better story to be good in my eyes, I just couldn't connect to these lifeless people.

>>15279078
>Godzilla 2 should be kickass

I can't wait dude

Ghidorah, Rodan and Mothra all in one place

Oh yeah, stick around after the credits of Skull Island for a little suprise

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They should skip Godzilla 2 and just make it GvK

G14>Shin

You can't prove me wrong

>>15275490
Yes, going after work Friday

The early reviews of the new Kong movie are generally agreeing that the action is top notch, but most of the human cast are just stand-ins.

If find funny that there are people who watch the trailer for a monster movie and go in expecting to be Citizen Kane w/ kaiju then get disappointed that there wasn't enough time spent on character development. And then we get movies like Godzilla '14 where there is a ton of character development, but then people complain that there's not enough of the monster.

I'll probably check it out.

>>15279078

He fights Parasite Eve monsters?

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>>15284614
reposting the shitty cam of the Kong postcredits with Idris Elba showing up to Kong's bedroom to explain about the Destroy All Monsters Initiative.
https://mega.nz/#!LYBgAKRK!57SsT36IOpnhFCC1UbzRSsEliiDlIvWpPzmZhOFhz7A

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>>15286515
>Idris Elba showing up to Kong's bedroom to explain about the Destroy All Monsters Initiative.

IT'S HAPPENING!!!

Kong/Godzilla cinematic universe as a kinda prequel to Pacific Rim except it obviously doesn't work but I want it dammit?

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>>15286632
>mfw they tell us Mechagodzilla is the prototype of all Yeagers.

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>>15286632
>>15286688

>Mechagodzilla gets destroyed by the kaiju.
>Scientist adapt the technology into a more humanoid shape dubbed "Jet Jaguar."

>>15272207
>"""kaiju"""
It literally just means "monster animal." In Japan, any animal-type monster (e.g. King Kong) is a kaiju.

It would be like saying Godzilla doesn't count as a "monster" because it's an English word

>>15272477
Fuck you

>>15280763
Fucking weeb bitch

>>15287042
>weeb as an insult
>on 4chan
>on /m/ at that

>>15284708
shin made me agree with all the hatred for anno

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I will never understand the appeal of King Kong.
Sure it was incredible back in the 1930's but watching it now and saying it's enjoyable makes you look like a fedora 'film enthusiast' or some shit. Jackson's was much better.

>>15288523
it's pretty fun

kinda like godzilla

>>15288523
>Jackson's was much better.

Yeah, if you enjoy sitting for fucking hours to get to the good stuff.

>>15288523
I like old-timey monster/dinosaur movies and stop motion, so it's right up my alley.

There was nothing appealing about the 05 one for me, maybe with the exception of Kong's CGI.

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>>15289326
did someone say old-timey dinosaurs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7vcKwmMzXA

>>15275490

I'm seeing it in IMAX on Saturday

>>15288523
I've never seen the original, but I just watched Jackon's yesterday. It was pretty awful. Kong fighting the t-rexes was the only enjoyable part. All the characters were unlikable idiots.

>>15288523
>watching old movies makes you a fedora-fag

>>15284708
Shin didn't put me to sleep.

>>15272477
Sad!

>>15288523
It has dinosaurs it's automatically better than it's remakes

>>15280763
If you hate all three of those I'm pretty sure you just hate kaiju dumbass

>>15291556
It does. Watching old movies and remarking wistfully about the good ole days of the golden age of cinema is a fedora hallmark

>>15284708
Shin didn't have scenes where you literally cannot see what is happening cause its so dark.

checkmate g14 fags.

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>>15291999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWKfyXVfVnA

Mmm...

Wish Hollywood would do more of these because I'm certain they'd make a killing in Asia.

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>>15278958
>>15278977
Did you miss this guy entrenched in a triceratops skull?

>>15292095
Yeah, it's dead. The dumb looking monsters they came up with are clearly the focus.

>>15291946
You're essentially saying that the foundation of cinema and all the techniques that allow for the cutting edge visuals your dumb brain is addicted to don't matter. That's shortsighted as fuck and you legitimately have no place talking about film at all. This isn't elitism keeping you out of the conversation, you slammed your head on the door and knocked yourself out trying to walk in.

>>15291576
>Shin didn't put me to sleep.

That's funny. I had the exact inverse experience. i fell asleep watching Shin. Had to finish it some other day.

>>15272477
>from an animation perspective
from an animation perspective I find stopmotion makes things creepy, creepy
>skellys
>ATATs
>Those suicidal Robocop II's
>Choosing poorly in The Last Crusade
Stop Motion would honestly be the better method today for alot of horror movies that suck because they rely on CGI monsters

Wasn't The Thing some kind of stop motion beast?

>>15280763
> Burgerzilla bored me to tears
The only thing I don't understand about amerizilla is why they made MUTO the main villain monster of the movie called GODZILLA
It could be called a godzilla movie, but don't go calling it fucking GODZILLA and just GODZILLA if GODZILLA is the supporting monster AND a supporting character

wtf man

>>15291765
No, I just don't like bad movies.

Considering kaiju as we know it wouldnt exist without American monster films, respect where respect is due. I love my fucking American monster flicks. Godzilla, the titular film that started it all wouldnt have been made if KingKong never existed. Im pretty sure im not saying anyrhig that no one knows anyways. Them, BEAST FROM 20000 FATHOMS, Giant Claw. Classics, I love em.

>>15292601
>You're essentially saying that the foundation of cinema and all the techniques that allow for the cutting edge visuals your dumb brain is addicted to don't matter.

They don't. They did their thing 100 years ago or whatever. There's no reason to give a shit about them now beyond historical interest.

>Not one mention of Ray Harryhausen
I expected better from you /m/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9HxCkBYum8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPaUdWkGKa8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_6Fr1SmYhA

>>15284708
Shin didn't play around like Jaws.

>>15293803
Harryhausen rotates one frame of animation in his grave every time he is brought up in a Godzilla discussion.

>>15293690
I mean, the movie had more misleading stuff than just the title. Like Cranston being hyped up in every fucking promo, only to serve as a bait and switch.

They also decided halfway into the marketing to try to hide the Mutos, because early interviews freely mentioned that there would be other monsters, but later ones were more vague on the matter. Then the trailers actually showed them and I remember normies who have never seen a Jap Godzilla movie being confused as hell that there would be more than one monster.

>>15293780
That's more of a general statement about the American film industry as a whole rather than a single sub-genre. In the early days of motion pictures, Hollywood was foremost cultural center for film which lead to a lot of firsts and popularization of certain content and narrative techniques.

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>>15294503

New Kong movie comes out today. Might check it out.

>>15293690
The effects in The Thing were done in real time, mainly comprised of tons of different puppets, animations, and other practical things. Watching the behind-the-scenes stuff really shows just how impressive a lot of the effects are.

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>>15298125
>>15293690

They animated a stop-motion sequence for the movie, but it didn't make the final cut. The scene would've been towards the end of the film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQr92wSxjD8

Even within the scene there wasn't a whole lot of stop-motion used.

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>>15280763
Just came back from Kong. It was far superior to the shitshow that was G14. It fixed almost all of that movie's problems. I'm totally on board for this shared kaiju universe thing now.

>>15293690
>The only thing I don't understand about amerizilla is why they made MUTO the main villain monster of the movie called GODZILLA
Watch the older films. Half the time, the Godzilla gets less screen time the kaiju he's fighting. They usually play something like:
>monster shows up somehow
>monster rampages to city
>Godzilla wakes up
>they fight and Godzilla wins
...Most of the scenes that Godzilla gets to himself are when he's on approach for the fight or slinking back into the sea after the fight

Godzilla '14 is pretty typical for a Godzilla movie than what it gets credit for. But because it's licensed to an American production company, the weebs and japanese nationalists screech "HURR DURR STUPID AMERIKKAN! 1998 ALL OVER AGAIN!!!"

>>15302190
My only gripes with G14 are the cockteases.
I know you have to build up excitement for the battles, but fuck I was sick and tired of it by the time we did get to a proper fight that didn't cut away.

It made me feel "Fucking finally, goddamn" instead of "Oh shit finally, here it goes!"

Beam scene was really great though

Just got back. Honestly, I'm not as excited or amazed after seeing this like I was for Pacific Rim and G'14 for some inexplicable reason. It's still good and there are great moments nonetheless but I feel it took things a bit too far at times and the resulting silliness took me away from the film. It really bugs me and I just wish it was a tiny bit more serious.

No, I'm not talking about scenes like Wanda's magical camera. That was great. I'm talking about moments like the scientist dying a gory death right after everybody breathes a sigh of relief. That was unnecessary. If they had held back a little, it would've helped a lot.

>>15302202
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

>>15302190
Yeah, but it was supposed to be the first film of a new Godzilla series. So it should have been about reintroducing the idea of Godzilla to people who might not be familiar with him. Which Shin did pretty well. You can't just treat it like it's another in a long series when it's supposed to be a fresh start.

>>15272234
>considering how awful PR2 is going to bomb.
Your knowledge of this is based on what paranormal gift? Your ass?

Man I fucking loved the final fight scene.
When the giant Skullcrawler comes at the group I thought KK would pull it away or tackle it, BUT FUCKING NOPE HE JUMPS DOWN FROM BEHIND AND SLAMS A FUCKING ROCK INTO THE LIZARD'S FACE LIKE A BADASS MOTHER FUCKER! FUUUUUUUUUCK

>CAPTCHA: Image of a road sign that reads King Ave.
Nice

>>15302666
It's just the cycle repeating. people said the first one was going to bomb, and still pretended it did when it was doing well. They just kept making up larger and larger numbers for what it had to earn to be profitable.
Though, I am a bit worried about how it's going to turn out without Guillermo directing.

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When will we get an American robot movie that isn't some kind of pastiche like PR? PR is okay but the concept is super derivative and the designs are pretty bland. Why does everybody have such a narrow idea of what giant robots are and what they can do?

>>15292468
It's more of a speculative evolution thing. All the dinosaurs on the island died out or evolved into something new.

>>15302876
We did, it was called Robot Jox.

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Just got back from Dong. Good movie, great action, but this fucking guy in front of me...
>he talks during the movie
>even pulls out his phone
>during the ending scene where John C Reilly goes home he immediately starts bitching
>gets up as credits roll
>straight up says a well-deserved good end for a bro tier character ruined the movie
Fucking edgelords, post credits scene made up for it but what is wrong with some people.

>>15272207
50s Kaiju movies are fun. Beast from 20,000 Fathoms and King Kong are fantastic, while the rest are at least entertaining.

Was anyone else disappointed Kong didn't kill the final Skullcrawler with his signature jaw rip thing? I mean, the way he did kill it was cool, but it was weird not seeing it.

>>15302984
There was a point in the fight where he was attempting it against the Skullcrawler I think, but I'm kinda glad he didn't. I've seen it so many times that I'm always glad when they put a twist on it. Godzilla was going to kill the female MUTO the same way, but thankfully they did something different.

>>15302944
I'm talking about the future here.

>>15302965

Yeah, that's always the risk of going to see blockbusters on opening night.

The fucking bitch in front of me... must have been some former hippy flower child cunt. I could smell the booze on her from the next row, and EVERY. FUCKING. TIME. an old song came on she would literally stand up and put her fucking arms in the air and starts waving them around doing that retarded hippy dance like fucking Nell doing "traaaaays in the weeyund".

The blacks were better behaved than this bitch.

Anybody else felt really bad for Cole during his "sacrifice"?

I'll be the first to say it, it was such an anti-climax I burst out laughing.

>>15303322

There was a groan of disapproval from the audience.

It was not well received.

>>15303322
My place laughed
It was really sad, but there is no other way to react

>>15303322
Is that grenade bro? I laughed if so.

>>15303322
I felt terrible watching it. Kong was a surprisingly dark movie. It's like they gave a backstory to all those characters you normally don't so you don't feel bad when they die.

Was really sad to see Chapman go down the way he did.

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>That Kong post credits scene
My body is so fucking ready.

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>>15284708
Shin>G14

You actually can't prove me wrong.

>>15303322
The poor bastard tried, he really did.
F.

>>15303612
The problem is I agree with you.
>>15303575
> Kong was a surprisingly dark movie.
PG-13 if you can believe it. By today's standards you'd think it'd be an R, but someone somewhere decided to go by the 80's standards of ratings.

Also I loved all the Vietnam War movie referenced like When the spider impales one guy in the mouth like that girl in Apocalypse Now, or when any of the music plays (mainly the 3 CCR songs).

>>15303575
Seen it twice now. Kong was a fun movie but yeah really dark. The fucking bamboo spider scenes freaked me out.

Okay, sofar all the species we've seen in these movies are:
Radioactives
>Godzilla
>MUTOs
>Mothra (possible)
>Rodan (possible)
>King Ghidorah (possible)
Naturally big
>King Kong
>Octopus
>Bamboo Legged Tall Spider
>Log Bug
>Skull Crawlers
>Saw-Billed Pterosaur
>Moss Bison
>Triceratops (skull only)
>Giant Ants (sound and mentioned only)

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>>15279078
God, I love this poster. I'm totally going out of my way to order one.

>Rampage
Oh, god. I'd forgotten that was even happening.

>>15286854
>Jet Jaguar.
It'd clearly be known as Jet Jaeger in the Legendary-verse.

>>15291999
Sadly, I bought the blu-ray for that exact reason, since it seemed to solve some issues with other movies that were overly dark in theaters, but that movie is dark as shit sometimes regardless.

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>>15303642
>PG-13 if you can believe it.
It's advertised as 16+ where I live, and I guess I now know why.

>>15272234
I thought Godzilla: King of the Monsters was going to be Godzilla vs King Kong ft. Mothra & Rodan

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BLACKBIRD! BLACKBIRD! BLACKBIRD!

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>>15284708
G14 was too up its ow ass with military /ourboys/ circlejerking

Shin was actually politically relevant like a Godzilla movie should be

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>>15286688
>Mechagodzilla built with the skeleton of Goji when its killed due to its unique properties
>find they need a latent psychic to 'synchronize' with the spirit of goji in the bones to keep it from going berserk
>this lead to the drift technology used in jaegers

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do dragon movies count as kaiju?

>>15304029
>shin soon flies into a tomato-fuelled rage spewing ketchup all over the valley of the wind

>>15304046
That would make The Hobbit a kaiju movie.

>>15304057
I suppose the better way to phrase my question is 'can dragon movies count as kaiju'?

>>15303575
>Chapman
Am I the only one who thinks it would have been much better if Kong had bonded with him instead?

>>15304226
Honestly, I could see it. The girl really didn't have much character to her. Neither did Tom Hiddleston, come to think of it.

>>15304029
>G14 was too up its ow ass with military /ourboys/ circlejerking
They fucked up the whole length of the movie except when they bomb the MUTO nest, how is that circlejerking when it portrays them as useless grunts who only barely accomplishes one thing?

>>15292085

>BR 2D edition from the 3D pack
>Still Darker compared to the original theatrical run.

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>>15279078
What's the Japanese title, "King Kong: The Giant Gods(?) of Skull Island"?

>>15303668
>Radiation
>Mothra (possible)

>>15286515

Fuck that gave me chills. I need to see this damn movie already.

>>15275490
Can confirm, is fucking awesome. John C Reilly was really great.

>>15305411
>It sounds like a bird but its a fucking ant!

>>15305532
I'm disappointed we didn't get to see the ants

>>15305532
>>15305834
Was satisfied with the Kong vs Octopus fight in that it seemed like an homage to Vs Godzilla. But I was upset that we didn't get like giant mantis' instead and have them be Kamikuras. Also, skull island is most def going to become Monster Island.

>far shot of kong fighting the skull crawler under the flare
10/10 moment.

>>15304029
>military circlejerking
>they literally do nothing to hurt the mosnters

This is one criticism that makes no sense. The military in this movie were arguably more useless than a lot of Godzilla movies, the only thing they don't fuck up is bombing the eggs and even then they run away with Godzilla having to save main guy

>>15272207
Godzilla 2014 a shit.
Kong: Skull Island a good.

I'm excited for this director to do /M/etal Gear.

Tfw the boat is called "Gray Fox"

>>15305944
>Kong
>Skull Crawles
>Leafwings
>Big Buffalo
>Big ol spider
>unseen tree ants
Fug, this movie was full of monstars. I love it.

>>15303655
Anyone else gonna pretend that bamboo spider was Kumonga?

He's got the yellow on his butt and the red eyes for it.

>>15306675
Nah, Kumonga is jumbo size. That little thing was Kumonga spawn.

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>>15306675
>mfw it impales soldier man through his mouth with its leg
>mfw scientist man is ripped apart by the Leaf Wings
>mfw kong tears the lead Skull Crawler's insides out through its mouth
This movie was gorier than I thought it would be.
>mfw Steve Brule goes home to his wife and his son he'd never met
I didn't expect to get teary eyed either.

>>15305834
I'm half convinced that was Reilly improvising. Would've been awesome, though.

>>15306931
It might be a nod to how the giant ants sounded in "Them!"?

>>15279078
That's a sweet-ass poster. Also
>King Kong, Giant God of Skull Island
>Giant God

This kind of make me wish this is a live action Giant Gorg.

>>15279078
Holy shit, I just realized they managed to cram every monster onto that poster. That's fucking rad!

>>15305834
I was happy we didn't get to see the ants, just hearing some random monster making mating calls in the background without them ever showing up on screen made sense, it would have felt a bit contrived if in just a few days the characters saw and fought every monster on the island.

>>15288523
That giant insects scene was straight up torture porn, and despite CGI in King Kong didn't age well, holy shit it is still unsettling. Also, i liked Jack Black in it.

Any dinosaurs or just dumb looking weaboo inspired monsters?

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>>15307213
>weaboo inspired
skull crawlers literally take inspiration from a creature from the original

>>15307355
It's crazy. A creature with maybe 10 seconds of screen time is the main villain of the newest Kong movie. Didn't see a T-Rex get this pushed aside since Jurassic Park 3

>>15289390
I wonder why silent movies never thought to just put the text at the bottom of the screen instead of having their own title card.
It must have doubled the length of the movie having to show the people talking and then freeze on a bit of text.

>>15308405
I don't think overlayed subtitles was really a technology for a while.

US generally don't care much for the genre. Their properties regarding huge monsters are pretty stagnant until they dared to do them again. Only thing that do them a lot are b-movie studios. After Peter Jackson's Kong. Sharknado is the last one to get US attention.

>>15308974
This is why IDW is based; they do giant monsters even while people consider them old hat.

>>15308974
>Sharknado is the last one to get US attention.
And that sucks. I mean monster movies have never really shaken off that "stupid old trash flick" stigma, but in recent times, comparing them to Syfy movies has become the go-to kneejerk reaction for normalfags.

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>>15272207
Where can I watch Shin Godzilla?

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>>15308121
>Didn't see a T-Rex get this pushed aside since Jurassic Park 3
Way cooler replacement too

>>15308121
>10 seconds of screen time

At least 5 minutes.

>>15309952
In the original?

>>15293796
So you only watch new films and never watch things made in the past. Got it.

>>15310162
Yes? I have a roughly 10 year limit on how old something is before I watch it. Is this somehow hard for you to grasp? You seriously think people under the age of 95 want to watch old movies?

>>15310207
Yeah, that's pointless. Age of a movie doesn't determine if it's good or bad.

>>15309952
You kidding? The lizard thing was on screen for like 10 seconds, only to fall to his death

>>15310210
It most certainly does. The criteria for what makes a good movie is vastly different today than it was during the infancy of the medium.

>>15310889
Then you can apply those criteria to old movies yourself. Some of them will meet them, some won't. Same as movies today.

>>15304025
No. Godzilla 2 is 2019, vs Kong is 2020.

>>15310936
Not really. Old movies are naturally gonna be worse by default in some respects.

>>15304352
Think about it. Both being bloody (from one another, no less) and washing themselves off was the perfect setup for UNDERSTANDING to happen.

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>>15288523
>>15291946
>>15293796
>>15310207
What are you doing outside of /krg/?

>>15315942
I don't see your issue. Those movies were made in a time when anything with sound and moving pictures was awesome. Nowadays those movies are just.. bland. Plus, most of them were so similar and repetitive. And I find old monster movies and other similar genres completely boring. Hence why I couldn't get into King Kong a few years ago when I checked it out.

>>15272207
I feel that Western kaiju designs (specifically American ones) are traditionally the coolest looking cinematic monsters ever. Not just the design, but the tokusatsu effects as well. Japanese kaiju look like it was just some guy in a rubber suit or some motionless prop American toku is always felt more life-like and dynamic. Even the Western takes on Godzilla looked cool in their own right.

>>15316113
kill yourself you /krg/ fucking reject
those threads and everyone in them are a complete disgrace

>>15275490
I saw it, I thought it was worse then 2014 goji

If you thought the 2014 godzilla film didn't have enough godzilla then this is for you, it shows off king kong and focuses on action involving him almost to a detriment, i'd argue, the movie is clearly more focused on trying to show off kong doing cool shit then anything else and I don't know if it works.

There's obviously stuff going on with the people and a message about Humans holding grudges and the folly of man etc via a vietnam colonel who refuses to to let the death of his men go to the point where he's more focuses on killing kong then actually getting himself of the rest of his men that are still alive off the island, but none of that subplot ever actually hits you and it feels shallow, the fact the movie's tone in general is even lighter then the 2014 godzilla movie doesn't help matters much.

Also, this is a bit of an unfair gripe, since the peter jackson kong movie and it's tie in game were just exceptionally fantastic at it, but there's not as much a sense of worldbuilding here as with that film and game in terms of ecology. There's an entire 300 or so page artbook that's styled as a natural history guide that does nothing but cover and explain the flora and faunua of all the shit they made for the movie and how they prey on each other; there's WAY less wildlife featured here and it feels less deliberate, with the exception of a giant spider monster that lives in a bamboo forest and camouflages itself by the fact it's giant stilt legs look like bamboo itself that it skewers things with.

In particular, the main monster "villian" in the skullwalkers or whatever were pretty uninteresting. The overall body plan of just having two upper limbs and a long snakelike torso is cool but something about them never clicked with me. Probably a 6.5/10 or so, with 2014 Godzilla being a 7.5/10, the 2005 king kong being a 7.75/10, and Shin Godzilla being a 8.5/10

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>>15303783
The BD is even darker then when I saw it in theaters, which IMO was just the right balance

>>15309319
You can't, wait another 15 days or so for the BD to come out.

I mean technically you can, there's a download floating around, but it has random scenes cut out so I wouldn't reccomend it

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2005 > Skull Island >>>> 1976 >>>>> 1933

>>15319501
Where did /krg/ touched you Anon?

>>15310889
So by your logic, watching an old movie like say, Ben-Hur, makes me a fedora-fag? And the movie is bad because it's older?

So let's take a scene like the centurion-water-jesus scene, and suddenly it loses all impact and credibility, because it's an old film

The actual fuck?

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>>15330041
Either go back to your containment thread or actually try to mount a real argument as to why this is a bad movie. I'd love to see /krg/ legitimately attempt this. You can invite some friends from there too if you think it would help.

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Hope I'm not the only one who thougt of this in the last fight.

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>>15306749
Yeah, it was pretty cool

>>15337691
Set your fucking /krg/ boogyman down and stop replying to the idiot

>>15337765
more to the point why blame /krg/ specifically when most of /m/'s resident monster faggots would most likely hate the original Kong for it's age?

>>15335013
>Look at me I'm name dropping ***important*** movies to show how well-read and cultured I am!

Gonna mention Citizen Kane next, champ?
And yes you look like a fedora to be on the internet in the year 2017 sucking the cock of movies older than dirt that nobody 70 gives a shit about.

>>15339587
Just curious, where's your cutoff point? Am I a fedora because I watched Pulp Fiction? Or Predator? Or Enter the Dragon? I need to know how hard I need to laugh at you.

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Stop posting Japanese shit, this is American kaiju.

Remember when we had films about giant ants fucking up everything or an octopus too big to stop? This is what American Kaiju is. Not fucking Godzilla.

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Fuck Godzilla. We've got a giant spider that eats women.

>>15339914
I think 1984 should be the cutoff point but even that is pushing it too far into 'born in le wrong generation' territory.

>>15339943
>100 ft high
Oh shit, that's a huge woman

>>15339943
That one is a b movie masterpiece.

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>>15340177
Yeah, we've got those as well.

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>>15340107
So by that logic, if you watch any of the original Star Wars trilogy, Scarface, E.T., Wrath of Khan, Poltergeist, and the first three Rocky movies are all fedora tier. Pic related.

>>15341146
*Rocky movies you are fedora tier.
Don't post when sleep deprived kiddos.

>>15341146
Fedoras love those movies so yeah

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>>15339930
>Empire of the Ants
Disgusting. At least post the better giant ant movie

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Don't mind me, just a year a head of nuclear monsters.

>>15340671
>Hey, paint a poster for this movie called "Attack of the 50 foot tall woman"
>Paints a 150 foot tall woman

>>15342759
I love how direct advertising was back then.

"YOU'LL SEE IT TEAR A CITY APART!"

They knew their audience and what they wanted to see.

>>15343411
Now when someone does that people will yell SHILL

>>15325812
KKE>2005>KKvsG>KSI>33>Son of>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lives>>>>>76

>>15339587
Holy shit, you are the absolute worst.


HA DUR, OLD THINGS IS DUMB.

>>15346077
Where do you think you are?

>>15303612
but shin looks fucking terrible like a anorexic crack whore godzilla

Stop argueing about Shin vs 2014 goji, they both had two of the hypest moments in the series's history.

>Legendary goji breathing atomic fire down the MUTO's throat till it's neck fucking explodes
>Shin goji's atomic breath scene where it goes from gas to napalm to a laser and then fires the back beams

These were the 3rd and second hypest moments in the franchise both were great. The 1st being, of course, the entirety of final wars

>Shin.Godzilla.2016.1080p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H.264.mkv
>Shin.Godzilla.2016.1080p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H.264.mkv
>Shin.Godzilla.2016.1080p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H.264.mkv
FINALLY

>>15346077
Name a good movie made before the year 2000 that isn't laughably outdated.

>>15347253
>"""1080p""" webrip
Who fucking cares.

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>>15347464
Fritz Lang's Metropolis
Bergman's Fanny and Alexander
Kurosawa's Ran
Masaki Kobayashi's Kwaidan

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>>15347229
>1st
>Final Wars
Final Wars was absolute shit, though.

>>15347464
>before the year 2000
>2000
>17 years
>outdated
Fucking millenials. I could maybe understand not wanting to watch black and white or silent movies, but seventeen years is fucking nothing in the long run.

>>15347229
Japan is damn good on rebooting Godzilla. PR should learn from them.

>>15347542
>not liking sheer over the top action stupidity

I bet you also hate G Gundam

>>15347820
*tips fedora*
Astro-Monster is a cult classic.

>>15288523
Oh fuck off
I enjoyed the 33 film even as a kid
>saying old things are bad on /m/

>>15293803
My nigga
>>15293796
drop dead of AIDS, /tv/

>>15294508
>normies who have never seen a Jap Godzilla movie
Uhh how fucking young are these "normies" you speak of? Or are you a European? I'm pretty sure even the most normie Americans that grew up in the 90s & early 00s has seen Japanese Godzilla films before

>>15347982
Stop that. You know you're not allowed to still enjoy things after they become old. Every time you enjoy something old, you are literally stealing food off the table of special effects workers today. You horrible, heartless, old-things-enjoying monster.

>>15348000
>he blames /tv/

You're aware this guy is clearly a /krg/ shithead right? This is exactly the mindset enforced in those containment threads.

>>15348008
>Or are you a European?
Yes.

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Does the Blob count as Western kaiju?

The practical effects of the 1988 film were REALLY good.

>>15347229
>Shin goji's atomic breath scene where it goes from gas to napalm to a laser and then fires the back beams

Complete fucking bullshit haxx moment.

Bump because TCM is showing both Gojira and the original King Kong tonight. Gojira is on now (subbed).

>>15348008
You'd be surprised. You have to actively search out Godzilla here. It's not something you stumble across.

>>15305411
>literally only John C Reilly and Samuel Jackson were the only people who were written to completeness
>John Goodman's character seemed to have backstory, and could have elaboration, but he dies rather unceremoniously
>everyone else has poor characterization/should not have received the screen-time that they did/could have made space for more faceless joe's
Jesus christ so much unnecessary padding too; the excess of period music paired with excess slow-mo felt like an attempt at snyder
Otherwise the monster fight didn't suck thankfully

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>>15349514
Does Chev Chelios turning into a Kaiju counts as Kaiju?

>>15294503
Underrated post

>>15302944
FUCK YES

>>15303304
>The blacks were better behaved
(You)

>>15325812
1933>KKvsG>KKE>Skull Island>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2005>1976>KKL

>>15341146
Honestly anything older than 2010 I would say is fedora-tier. Only for old farts out of touch with the times or fedoras who think they're cool for liking something old.

>>15352252
Eat shit, showafag.

>>15347532
>Fritz Lang's Metropolis
Literally who?
>Bergman's Fanny and Alexander
Anything with "Fanny" in the title is grandpa shit
>Kurosawa's Ran
Kurosawa is like top 10 fedora tier directors.
>Masaki Kobayashi's Kwaidan
Weeb shit from the 50s or whatever. So not only is it weeb, it's like fucking grandpa weeb who likes samurais or whatever the fuck.

Try again you fucking "cultured" "intellectual"

>>15347542
>Final Wars was shit
Opinion discarded

>>15347547
>Millennials
How old are you, grandpa?

>>15352263
Showa is well before 2010, so.....

>people are still responding to the shitposter

>>15352286
/krg/ fags need constant attention after all

>>15272219
Pacific Rim vs King Kong vs Godzilla vs Evangelion vs Siuperman when?

>>15352268
Nah. You'll just say everything's crap. Enjoy watching shit.

>>15355398
Don't be so salty old man even an ancient fuck like you can develop some taste.

>>15355773
Post taste now!

>>15355857
In general?

No Country for Old Men
Nightcrawler
Zodiac
Force Awakens and Rogue One are far better than the old movies
Godzilla 2014 was better than any previous Godzilla

>>15272207

>It Ain't Me starts playing

>>15356164
oh also forgot to mention Jurassic World > Jurassic Park
Fight me faggots

>>15356164
>No Country for Old Men
>Nightcrawler
>Zodiac

>Spends entire thread complaining about how old movies are shit because of dated special effects
>Brings up movies with barely any special effects

>>15357237
It's clearly not just special effects then, dumbass. Those are movies that could not or would not be made earlier than when they were.

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i think The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms is a pretty cool movie.

>>15357687
I'd give you Zodiac. TFA is absolutely offensive compared to The Original Star Wars. Sure, the angles slightly got better but having a CGI Peter Cushing is absolutely offensive and shows lack of original ideas.

>>15272207
Pretty low bar.

>>15357753
Wow, that's fake as fuck.

>>15272207
c-movie shit

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This one inspired an episode of Jetman.

>>15346077
I'm not going to lie, this is true. The original Godzilla and Kong are incredibly dated and is not a very good entrance point. Kong 2005 or Final Wars are both infinitely better movies and entrance points than the originals. I'll get shit for this, but it's what I firmly believe. the old movies, and old movies in general, are too formulaic, dull and dated. And yes I'm from /krg/ and fuck you guys making it sound like a bad thing. I feel like /krg/ is the only fandom that doesn't suck the cock of something because it's ancient.

>>15366149
I remember having a crush on the girl from the cartoon.

>>15367092
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>>15348493
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>>15330041
>>15319501
>>15315942
What is /krg/ and why are you fags so butthurt over it?

>>15367290
Kamen Rider general. It's a shitty meme that everyone on there hates Showa, ergo they hate everything old.

>>15367654
it's not a meme if it's true

>>15367736
>>15367654
I don't get the complaint, the fact that the original king kong and Godzilla are really dated effects wise is a completely accurate statement.

I think the other Showa godzilla films would have aged fine though had they not been so goofy

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>>15367771
Nobody here is impressed by the harebrained critique of a shallow fifteen year old.
Go watch your Transformers movies then you piece of shit because that's clearly the heights of what you consider good moviemaking.

>>15367092
You're really going to need to expand your vocabulary if you want to convince anyone that youre not samefagging

>>15367771

so all those decades of critical praise for those movies as cinematic marvels falls to the wayside because some millennial on /m/ who definitely wandered in from /krg/ doesn't like the effects. anything else you wanna illuminate on buddy? gonna take potshots as Citizen Kane or Ben Hur next?

>>15367791
>>15367820
Nigga, i'm not either one of the other two people, I was the one who didn't even know what /krg/ was.

I don't even watch that many movies, but I do know that I'm similarly annoyed at how much dick sucking older video games get and how they make "best games of all time" lists despite objectively having less content, less polish, more bugs, being less mechanically complex, and having worse video and audio then many modern games.

Just because something was revolutionary or outstanding for it's time doesn't mean it's objectively better then things that have advantages of newer technology and more refined techniques. It's possible to adknowledge something was groundbreaking in it's day and for it's time was impressive but also concede that in some ways it doesn't hold up.

People don't go around talking about how the first rock a caveman slapped on a piece of wood or the first sword or the first spear was "10/10 best weapon of all time" and how those are better then modern firearms.

>>15367835
Wow resorting to copypasta, how sad

https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/15303847/#15327068

Can't expect much more from a /krg/ reject though, it's like expecting a monkey not to throw their own shit

>>15367859
That's also a post I made but I'm not from /krg/ or other dumb shit.

I'm only on /tv/ and /m/ for shin godzilla. I don't watch Kamen Rider/toku in general

>>15367909
There's someone who's been trying to start shit between Godzilla threads and Kamen Rider threads on /m/ for a few months now, ignore him I guess.

I dunno why shitposting's gotten so rampant on /m/ in the past year or so.

>>15367909
You are most likely a capeshit watching millennial retard who got BTFO right in that thread and have come back for seconds in this thread by vomiting your ignorance all over the place. Ever hear of quitting while you're behind?

>>15367835
Why don't you answer the question posed to you earlier and tell us what you're cutoff date is to when a work automatically becomes bad?
Is it still the year 2000 or are you going to attempt a little more wiggle room?
Also while you're at it tell us your stance on remakes. Is the remake of Clash of the Titans just suddenly much better than the original because muh CG? What about Robocop? Total Recall?

>>15367917
We don't have any fucking mods, that's why. Ten bucks says they'll miss the point and I'll get banned for this post.

>>15367917
>I dunno why shitposting's gotten so rampant on /m/ in the past year or so.

No mods and/or its the mods doing the shitposting.

>>15367968
>posed to you earlier
I already said i'm not the people you've been talking to you cuck

Anyways, a cutoff date would be stupid. It depends on the specific piece of media and how well it has or hasn't aged. There's plenty of movies and games even from the early 2000's that have their visuals age like utter shit and that are completely distracting, and there's also plenty of stuff that's older that has aged fine.

>Also while you're at it tell us your stance on remakes. Is the remake of Clash of the Titans just suddenly much better than the original because muh CG? What about Robocop? Total Recall?

I'd say, again, it depends. Visuals aren't the only part of what makes a movie good or bad, writing, good camerawork, the acting, the sound design, etc are all important factors. It's entirely possible for out of date special effects to be so distracting that it takes away from everything else if they are common in the film, but it's also possible for shit effects to not matter because other parts of it are done that well.

>>15367935
>capeshit

the only modern marvel movies i've seen is the first spider man and the first iron man and that's it. I'm not the other person.