/krg/ - Kamen Rider General #1420 - Beetle Stag Spider! Beetle

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Tekken form when?

>>15172795
not just this country, but international in general

weed rider when

>>15172749
Very asshole of him to do that.

Although, Kamen Rider is better than Sentai except for heroines part, Sentai does better than KR .

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How long till he dies?

>Poppy gashat
>Kuuga to Decade gashats
>W and OOO gashats
>Maximum Mighty X
>Pac-Man, Xevious and FamSta gashats
>Also the tiple pack of Ex-Aid, Brave and Snipe SHFs

March is too expensive for Ex-Aid stuff

http://tokusatsunetwork.com/2017/02/insert-song-hiroyuki-takami-play-new-kamen-rider-ex-aid-episode/

>>15172897
In addition to toys there is also the 2 disc OST for Heisei Generations

>>15172900
>Insert songs are back for good at least for Ex-Aid

Thank the lord

Do all main rider's ultimate form look dumb?
I started with Drive and, while none of its forms looked vert good, Type:Tridoron looked like Type:Speed with downs.
Watched OOO and PuToTyra had the goofiest look among all combos.
Now you guys suggested I watch Ryuki and, while it is extremely good, I can't get over how Ryuki Survive looks dumb, especially when Knight Survive looks great.

Speaking of Ryuki, I'm ten episodes until the end and I haven't seen Ryuga yet (black Ryuki who's in the Battride War games). When does he show up?

>>15172900
>daddy dan sings song for ex-aid

perfecto

>>15172884
Hopefully before the end of this decade.

>>15172908
>Type:Tridoron looked like Type:Speed with downs.

u wot m8erino. Type Tridoron is fucking sexy.

>>15172921
Oh man we're getting decade season 2 afterall?

>>15172908
This is some advanced shit taste. Ryuki's suit looks great, but I'll give you that survive left something to be desired. Type tridoron looks fucking amazing though, I don't hoe how you could prefer it over base Drive. Ryuga is a movie rider, by the way.

>Speaking of Ryuki, I'm ten episodes until the end and I haven't seen Ryuga yet (black Ryuki who's in the Battride War games). When does he show up?
He doesn't, not in the TV series.

>>15172925
>>15172930
As far as I'm concerned, Mach>Chaser>Mach Dead Heat>Jun>Mashin Chaser>Drive Type:Formula>Drive Type:Speed>Gold>Drive Type:Dead Heat>Drive Type:Wild>Drive Type:Tridoron>Drive Type:Technic
but to each their own I guess.

>>15172932
Too bad...
Episode Final or 13 Riders?

>>15172943
the one with Femme and Verde

>>15172908
wizards is tight

>>15172943
Both, but he's only a cameo in the 13 Riders one.

>>15172900
I wonder if its gonna be Genm's theme song since Ex-Aid already get one few episodes ago.

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SHT spoilers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI3qZo7u1_0

>Mask Collection: Gaim's Kiwami, Ryugen, Specter, Amazon Alpha, Amazon Omega, Amazon Omega Origin

>>15172908
The only good looking ultimates are Blade's and Den O's

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aaaarrrghuargghhhhh

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thought on this spoopy shadow /krg

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>>15173036
fat baby upgrade

>>15173039
i love that ex-aids head is in the actual gashat

it's so dumb

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>>15173059
it's like PEZ!

>>15172908
I love PuToTyra and Tridon and it was so fun watching Eiji go ape and Krim take over for Shinnosuke.

I agree Survive Ryuuki looked ridiculous but the dragon gun/sword was kind of adorable and the dragon bike was sick even though we didn't see it too much. I feel more mixed about it in hindsight

>>15173059
I'm kinda sad it doesn't stay hidden and pop up when you GASHATTO
That would have been fantastic

>>15173075
maybe it will do something to the final form toy

>>15173075
>>15173076
it'd be incredible if you push him down to henshin and he pops up for the critical strike

KIMIWAZA

EX-AID DAYO!

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>>15173039
>>15173059
Maximum Mighty Kuuga when?

>>15173061
the poster is out for a day already, its real i think

>>15172908

GOD TIER FINAL FORMS:

Kuuga
Agito
Blade


GOOD TIER FINAL FORMS:

Faiz
Kabuto
Wizard

MEH FINAL FORMS:

Ryuki
Hibiki
W
OOO
Fourze
Gaim
Drive
Ghost

UGLY SHIT FINAL FORMS:

Den-O
Kiva
Decade

>4chanx suddenly notifying me on any post rather than just replies

REEEEEEEE

>>15172990
>Amazon Omega Origin


OMAE WA DARE DA

>>15172984
if this is true, we will finally see Agito's Burning form in live-action appearance

>>15173138
>MEH FINAL FORMS
>OOO
I hope you're not talking about
PTERA
TRICERA
TYRANNO

Because you'd be wrong.

>>15173145
...What?

>>15173145
What the hell are you talking about?

>>15173145
Do you have the brain retardation?

>>15173151
Did you not see the bottom of the poster?

>>15173061

It's real. Look at the official site.

http://www.superhero-movie.com/

>>15173061
>blurry
Are your eyes ok, anon?

>>15173153
I do. I see a form Agito used in his own show. Burning Form.

Not even it's first Taisen film appearance. It was in GP.

>>15173161
Yeah, but its the first in a move appearance after the show, during the Showa vs Heisei movie we just saw his Trinity form during that time.

>>15173161
I think what he means is it's its first Live Roadshow appearance, like live on stage, right?

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>not liking type tridoron

>>15173165
No it's not. It was in GP.

>>15173171
meant for >>15172908

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>>15173165
It was used in Rider 3. Look at Agito standing in the background while Decade beats up Rider 3.

>>15173138
I think Gaim needs to be bumped up a tier.

>>15173185
I dunno why but your second sentence made me laugh.

>>15173185
Poor Sangou ;-;

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>>15173332
>Sangou

>>15173334
That's exactly how it's pronounced

>>15173185
Poor Conductor enmascarado unidad 3 ;-;

what is similar to fourze? I actually liked the goofy highschool friendshipness, and all the other seasons bar den-o just feel too unlike it.

>>15173388
persona 4

>>15173388
No highschool stuff, but in every other way W is very similar to Fourze.

If you specifically want highschool hijinks there's nothing else.

>>15173388
Nothing in Rider, but check out Megaranger.

>>15173334
Are you also triggered by the word masked instead of masked? Hibiki? Kabuto? Gaim? Ryuki?

>>15173404
>but in every other way W is very similar to Fourze.
Having seen the 2 in the span of 2 weeks back to back to each other...i want you to explain me your reasoning.

I adore both series but i don't see it.

>>15173411
*word kamen instead of masked

>>15173411
>>15173414
Hibiki, Kabuto and Ryuki are Masked Riders
Says so right on the title card
Weeb properly.

>>15173423
The title card also says Masked Rider Φ's. Do you think anyone actually calls it that when Decade spells it out as Faiz? Or should I say DCD?

>>15173432
What you should do is seek professional assistance.

>>15173436
I think you should look in the mirror when you say that, Maurice.

MASKED RIDER WARRIOR LEADER

>>15173412

The monster of the week set up is extremely similar with people using switches/memories with drug-like effects to transform into monsters.

The physical x intellectual partnership (although in Fourze the mind side wasn't part of the Rider, just an important supporting character)

Similar gimmicks like the Foodroids from Fourze and W's animal gadgets.

Even specific plot points, like the partner dying and returning.

>>15173438
Literally who

>>15173463
huh, i can see it, you are right.

>Secondary rider gets with one of the rider girls
oh my god, the similarities continue!.

>>15173463
Also
>Shotaro
>Gentaro
We may be looking at two peas in a pod.

>>15173511
Philip, get out

>>15173463
>
Biggest difference is that W has some actual depth while Fourze is just fun

>>15173532
Yes he did

>>15173532
Tomoko, the goth girl

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>>15173532
>Ryusei didn't get with anyone though
oh yeah, i forgot Tomoko/Ryusei didn't happen at all.

>>15173538
That's a good way to lose hard (or maybe not so much hard) earned money :^)

>>15173542
Her fans would probably love it, i'm guessing most of them are females so losing the male demographic won't really hurt her book sales.
It would probably spike them actually.

>>15173542
Her fans would probably love it, i'm guessing most of them are females so losing the male demographic won't really hurt her book sales.
It would probably spike them actually.

>>15173542
Her fans would probably love it, i'm guessing most of them are females so losing the male demographic won't really hurt her book sales.
It would probably spike them actually.

>>15173542
Her fans would probably love it, i'm guessing most of them are females so losing the male demographic won't really hurt her book sales. It would probably spike them actually.

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>>15173546
>>15173551
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>>15173555
>>15173563

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>>15173546
>>15173551
>>15173555
>>15173563
Fuck off discord.

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>>15173546
>>15173551
>>15173553
>>15173555
>>15173563
hello discord

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>tfw your post wasn't shitposting but fucking discord decided to copy paste it into it.
i'm so sorry.

>>15173585
>>15173578
>>15173572
>discord
Explain more

>>15173138
Now do it for secondaries

Know what would be cool, if ONE time when a female stole a Belt/Driver it actually functioned.
I know it did in Kiva for Ixa, but every other time I can think of it just didn't work. Yeah I know, not compatibility surgery, not a Orphenoch, fuck that noise.

>>15173628
>he forgot Delta
>he forgot Kaixa

>>15173628
Extra heroines require somebody high up on the staff to push for it. Bandai won't push it because gender sales reasons, sometimes showrunners do it for the story, sometimes madman Sakamoto pushes for it (Kyoryu Violet Yayoi was his doing and it probably cost a monster suit). It's not as simple as just letting another character transform into the same suit, they'd probably want a different suit actor, which means adjusting the suit, which is, again, effort that somebody needs to push for.

We all want more heroines on Rider but there's objective reasons why it doesn't happen.

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>>15173628
You are gonna trigger the woman hating dude.


But yes, for the sake of just being cool yes, it would be, i would like more of a :
>main rider gets hurt early before the secondary shows up
>girls takes the belt after he gets downed and puts it on to protect him
>manages to drive the monster away with it because the dude almost defeats it so its weakened
>some bullshit about being too taxing on her and not as strong so she doesn't get to keep it

>>15173631
This scene was legit cool, i was hyped just for the sake of "holy shit" then Mari can't even transform and Rinna of course gets fucked because she is not an experience fighter.

But this shot was cool.

>>15173628
You want female heroes, watch Precure or Sentai. Rider is not the show for them.

>>15173643
>You are gonna trigger the woman hating dude

There doesn't seem to be any of them here. Just people that enjoy laughing at anons that feel the need to beg for female riders with every new show.

>>15173651
>You want female heroes, watch Precure or Sentai. Rider is not the show for them.
You have 10 seconds to explain why before I shove your head up your ass.

>>15173651
>watch Precure
I want a cute Shota Prince Precure too.

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>>15173651

>>15173657
Because Rider is a show for boys. The times they've tried female Riders, their shit never sells. With lower sales overall each year, Bandai stop taking unnecessary risks such as female toys.

>It's the same shit about female riders
>Again
>For the 1000th time

Every single week.

>>15173665
And Sentai is not a show for boys? You're retarded.

>>15173585
I'm not saying it was your fault anon, but it truly was your fault

>>15173668
You know Sentai is for both boys and girls, right? Sure, it may edge more towards boys, but they definitely target girls too.

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>>15173671
I know dude, i know.

>>15173676
No po

>>15173675
>You know Sentai is for both boys and girls, right?
It's really not

>>15173587
sekrit underage shitposter club

>>15173680
You're right. That's why it doesn't feature heroines with their own toys each year. I forgot.

>>15173687
Sentai heroines practically never have their own toys. Their figures or collectibles are normally packed with others and then there's cases like when in Shinkenger they gave up extra mechs to guys even when girls had all the storyline right to own them.

Washi Voyager being sold separately honestly surprises me.

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Show me a worse Heisei era suit

>>15173692
Literally everything in Ex-Aid

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>>15172877
Srsly bra

>>15173185
Showa vs Heisei is just kind of unfair. The Showa RIders are super strong, but Heisei is just full of gods, super monsters, time travelers and lots of explosions and lasers.

>>15173695
Your submission is wrong and will be discarded

>>15173698
Are you really so fucking ignorant that you think Rider 3 is actually from Showa times?

>>15173693
NO, THAT'S WRONG!

>>15173704
It's based on an idea from Ishinomori's old KR manga. Of course the design is slightly different and back in the 70s they changed it to introduce V3 but Rider 3 in SHTGP is tangentially a Showa era creation.

>>15173695
If I had the power to tear you apart for that... Guess I just got to keep it real and remember that anything goes in matters of shit taste (I'm not sorry)

>>15173665
>The times they've tried female Riders, their shit never sells
This dumb meme never dies. Marika didn't notably shelfwarm and she only had 1 other energy lockseed to sell against. She got a figuart and Jam had a lockseed, both exclusive release but clearly the demand was there. Mayu's was a ring packed in with 2 others so you can't exactly judge that either way. Nadeshiko didn't get one. Kiva-la got a dx toy and a figuart despite being a movie Rider.

>>15173697
Why is he just watching?

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>>15173704
most people in here can't tell the difference between any of them much less can tell which one was made for recent movies

>>15173719
You're a retarded Heisei faggot, beyond the name there is absolutely nothing in common with the original Rider 3 idea. You're just looking for an excuse to screech about how Showa raped your life and left you literally shaking at any given opportunity.

>>15173727
>You're just looking for an excuse to screech about how Showa raped your life
Is this the famed discord shitposting

>>15173700
>>15173721
The only good looking OOO suit is Tajador. The others aren't worth bothering with, and Putotyra is downright disgusting, especially when it becomes a CG mess, which is nearly every attack.

>>15173722
Not that Anon, but figuarts aren't for kids, they're for the adult collectors, of course they're going to put out SHFs of the few female riders. Hot glue market has a lot of money going for it.

>>15173727
>/krg/ hates Showa meme
Shoo shoo, Discord

>>15173727
They all do pretty much look the same. I mean how lazy are Rider 1 and Rider 2 designs?

>Earlier there was adaptation posting
>Then dude female riders lmao
>Now Showa troll

It's the holy trinity. Thanks, /krg/.

>>15173731
I mentioned both toys and figures to show that there's appeal to both ages.

>>15173733
>>15173730

>Demonstrable facts that insecure numales are desperate to cover up and deny when approached are """"shitposting""""

>>15173738
>using the word "numales" unironically
Yep this is shitposting

>>15173731
Actually I just wanted to chain some bad puns, I personally like PuToTyra but I get why someone might not

https://twitter.com/lespros_tetsuya/status/827955107228635139

BURGER TIME

>>15173743
You really gotta shout out your shitty puns better, then.

>>15173741
sorry tumblr does that word trigger you?

>>15173737
Yeah, but the majority of sales are to children. Besides, Bandai already has Precure and Aikatsu. Bellyaching for female Riders is a lot like pushing a wall: pointless because it honestly won't lead to anything.

>>15173745
Actually, he looks like he should be flippin' burgers.

Regular transformation item but souped up
Belt addition
New belt entirely

Which is your preferred method of attaining a final form?

>>15173764
Belt addition.

Belt additions feel more natural in an upgrade or final form because it gives a sense of physical growth and where the Hero is now.

An entirely new belt feels like something was lost and the object that allowed the Hero to become The Hero is considered useless now compared to the current threat or scenario, despise it being the object that took Them so far through the Story.

>>15173731
>The only good looking OOO suit is Tajador
Most combos look pretty good imo. OOO has a consistently good set of forms.

>>15172908
>Speaking of Ryuki, I'm ten episodes until the end
I've just watched episode 44 and what was the point of Imperer?
His death was super depressing but at the same time he wasn't a very memorable character so it feels like a bit of a waste. He really felt like another Scissors.

>>15173779
He was there mostly to add to the numbers of Riders around at once. I was actually annoyed the show rarely allowed more than one extra Rider beyond the 4 core ones (Ryuki, Knight, Zolda, Ouja). It just didn't feel like a battle royale most of the time.

>>15173784
It was also annoying that some of the supposed 13 Riders were movie/special-exclusive. Granted, it'd be very unlikely that there were zero deaths before Shinji got involved, but three of the thirteen have questionable continuity, especially Ryuga.

>>15173643
I tend to get somewhat triggered everytime i see the Kiriko's gif/webm with the tittle "vagina detected".

I don't even care about womyns being riders or not.

>>15173628
>Know what would be cool, if ONE time when a female stole a Belt/Driver it actually functioned.

would a female kaijin stealing the belt and transforming count

(i'd be up for another season like faiz where kaijin stealing the belt and wrecking shit is an actual threat)

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Man, you can't figure out who I am?
Sad.

>>15173764
I hope Ex Aid does something right for its final. This double gashat bullshit sucks.

>>15173889
We already know it's an addon to the gamer driver and maximum mighty x

>>15173895
Well at least the show is entertaining

>>15173764
It all depends on execution, but.
Souped up item>addition>new

I personally like the way OOO handled it though, with the medals used for PuToTyra being just a bit different than the usual but not like, say, Kiwami, which wasn't even a lock seed, or the extreme memory. But a more complex item feels better since it conveys that the character is doing the same thing, but with a more powerful item.

As for the other two, I agree with >>15173771.

But again, it all depends on execution.

>>15173803
I liked that aspect(i mean the very idea that some riders are stated to have been there in the show but never showing up) because it gives an idea of the scale of the war. On execution it doesnt work as well since there's no indication any of the riders that appeared on the show ever killed Verde, Femme and Ryuga(however he showed up in the tv loop). I mean, theres Ouja but he got his belt during the show, didnt he?

>>15173764
Not a final form, but I like how Hibiki gains Kurenai by literally repeating the transformation while already transformed

It's an incredibly stupid concept and it somehow works

>>15173722
The thing about Marika is she promoted 3 items(belt, weapon and peach lockseed). 2 of those are shared with plenty of other male riders but the peach lockseed was shared just by her and the MC. It shelfwarming, even if not notable, says something. As for Jam, it was unplanned, those kind of toys are more for collectors so its not that important.

>>15173942
>I mean, theres Ouja but he got his belt during the show, didnt he?

Yep. The only one that might have killed unseen Riders would be freaking -Scissors-.

>>15173695
Isn't "puto" also Spanish for man-whore?

Who is the worst secondary?

>>15173980
Gotou Birth

>>15173974
No, puto isn't the male version of puta(as weird as it sounds, even as a latin kid i found that strange).

"puta" is whore
"puto" is "faggot" ( with pretty much the same connotations we have when using faggot here). Though in Spain its sometimes used akin to "badass" ("soy el puto amo").

>>15173980
Knight

>>15173974
Sorta. But it can also mean like "fag" or something of the like.

If you said puto tyrannosaurus to a mexican they'd think of Barney the dinosaur.

>>15173949
We never know when Sai and Tiger join, though, so they might have had a hand in it. Tiger is a borderline serial killer, too.
Then there's Zolda, who used to be rather ruthless in the first half of the show.

>>15173986
So everything works out in both languages then

>>15173986
>If you said puto tyrannosaurus to a mexican they'd think of Barney the dinosaur.
Makes sense, given PuToTyra.

>>15173974
>>15173986
Puto means bitch and maricon means faggot.

>>15174000
>Puto means bitch
No, puto means faggot. Where do you live?

>>15174002
City by the border. I guess it's a regional thing.

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>>15173984
TAKE THAT SHIT BACK

>>15173698
It balances out because all the Showa riders are said to be absurdly overpowered in terms of brute strength. I think I remember reading once that Rider 1 and Rider 2 just keep getting physically stronger little by little forever.

>>15174020
They do because they're basically spending all the time updating their own tech.

>>15173764
Belt addition. It's perfect for a Rider, since it's an extension of their base power. Taking what they are and adding onto it, growing as a hero

Regular transformation item souped up just feels too small time for a final form, and even a bit lazy, since it's just the usual toy, but maybe with a fancier design or sticker. And new belt entirely just feels wrong, unless it's something like Agito, where the new belt is just a form the old belt takes when they go final form.

So with the latest update, the only main riders missing from Rider Atsume are original Black, ZX, and the middle children Shin, ZO, and J.

Since we got Amazons, what do you think the odds are we'll get the last of them?

>>15174020
Yeah, but then you get Heisei Riders like Kuuga, who possess the power to destroy worlds. Heisei also has an unfair advantage in that they all have alternate forms, allowing them to change attack tactics, some of them are filled to the brim with weapons, like Fourze, Drive and Ghost, and others have some crazy unfair abilities from their various forms, like Kabuto and Faiz being able to move faster than anyone can keep up with, or Double Extreme being able to instantly analyze an opponent's abilities. As strong as the Showa Riders are, I honestly don't think they stand up to the sheer amount of versatility, variety and broken abilities of the Heisei Riders.

>>15174050
J and ZO, very unlikely, since they seem pretty much forgotten except when brought in for an EVERY RIDER EVER crossover. Shin, never, he's the forgotten child

>>15173764
I don't think there's any show that actually does a new belt for a final form.

I guess there's Agito, but in the show's context they just show the belt transforming. Even Decade, although replacing the Driver with the K-Touch, then puts the Driver on the side.

>>15174060
You raise some good points, and I agree with you, Heisei's versatility is their biggest strength.

I don't want to sound like i'm trying to start some showa/heisei war, but I still think it would at the very least balance out between the sides, or at most come down to a rider by rider basis.

Yeah, the showas mostly have brute strength as their biggest strength, but you also have to factor in experience, skill, and the ability to deal with changing situations. The showas have been dealing with odds stacked against them and enemies far better equipped and more powerful than them for decades, they literally thrive in unfair battles.

Plus, even with different forms and weapons, some heisei riders have such giant power gaps, that it becomes negligible. Foruze's cosmic states for example isn't even as physically strong as some other rider's base forms. Granted, that doesn't matter if he warps someone into space, but imagine if he were up against someone so strong, that he rocket boosted at them and just bounced off them like a tennis ball thrown against a brick wall.

Ultimately though, no rider vs rider battle would be though out this well, and it always comes down to plot. But if it ever did come out like this, the best bet for both side would be to plan carefully who fights who. Black RX and maybe ZX would be the best against the most powerful and versatile heisei riders, whereas the fastest and most well armed heisei rider would be best against riders like 1 and 2, who have less versatile ways to counter.

>>15174079
>Foruze's cosmic states for example isn't even as physically strong as some other rider's base forms.
The stats of Cosmic states always seemed odd to me, when in the same show sometimes they had to take the monsters to space because their explosion would destroy a building/block and eventually city. There's no way Fourze could withstand that with the stats mentioned in the official site.

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>>15174067
>Shin, never, he's the forgotten child.
Fug.

>>15174089
The stats are always a little weird, but you have to consider them on a case by case basis. Fourze isn't meant to be an out and out brawler, his switches and adaptability are his strength. You don't need to be able to lift a ton in space, because gravity and resistance are not a factor.

For another example, Hibiki is one of the physically strongest riders, his base form is several times stronger than some riders final forms. But you have to consider that Hibiki fights final boss sized monsters several times a week, it's literally his job. With no crazy weapons or whatever he's become showa level buff because he HAS to be to survive.

>>15174079
Thats true, the Showa Riders have gone up against some serious shit while being under-equipped and outnumbers, so that is certainly a leg up. I mean pretty much every single Showa Rider has riden solo (though one and two did a lot of buddy buddy work) where as every Heisei Rider besides Kuuga has had a secondary Rider usually assisting them, so the main Heisei Riders are much more suited to team work, where as one single Showa Rider can pretty much fight armies by themselves. Without going into the extreme details of a showa vs heisei, I think the heisei side really falls down to Kuuga (capable of destroying whole planets with his bare hands) , Agito (god-like being whose constantly evolving), Kabuto (faster than any other Rider) and possibly Blade (unkillable) The other Heisei Riders have their numerous strengths, but like you said, most of them don't really go into huge leaps and bounds in strength

>>15174106
Also, stats don't usually mention things like weapon strength, or in Fourze's case, output thrust on his rocket or boosters. Consider that Super Rocket states can fly from ground level to orbit in a matter of seconds, with just two duffel bag sized arm rockets. That makes Super Rocket stats the fast and most powerful escape capable vehicle ever made by a huge margin.

>>15173942
>I mean, theres Ouja but he got his belt during the show, didnt he?

Doesn't necessarily mean that he couldn't have killed Riders off-screen does it? I mean in Gaim they killed Idun and Tyrant during but not IN the show.

>>15174115
Keep in mind Amazon has managed to kill a demon that was powerful enough to destroy the world by itself. And they've all beaten the various incarnations of Great Leader.

>>15174121
At this point, Great Leader is *essentially* just satan, so you could argue that even supernatural stuff is no problem for showa riders to deal with, as long as it's something they can physically hit or strike. Plus there's also the fact that when multiple showas get together they can do seemingly magical one-off moves like that rider-circle-power-wave thing they did in the ZX movie.

>>15174117
Don't forget the finisher moves. All Riders have them, but a number of Heisei Riders have explicit super powered finishers, and they can seemingly bust them out almost back to back, or even super charge them. And as mentioned before, some Heisei Riders have abilities that don't correlate directly into strength, like the various Fourze switch abilities (I mean, how would Magnet State fair against the large number of cyborg showa Riders?) or OOO's different form abilities, I mean he has outright gravity control in Sagozo form, and Wizard's various magic rings

>>15174126
>Great Leader is *essentially* just satan
Maybe David Icke's version of Satan, but otherwise no.

Dude's a Tibetan monk possessed by an interdimensional demon parasite powered by pure evil.

>>15174129
>(I mean, how would Magnet State fair against the large number of cyborg showa Riders?)
Stronger has magnetic abilities too and he doesn't need a form change to use them.

The way you're talking, every Showa Rider would be basically Rider 1 and 2, which isn't really true.

At the end of the day, it's less about the suit and more about the Rider. For example, Tendou is just too good to lose to people like Shinji or Kenzaki. And while Agito is an ever-evolving god, Shouichi isn't truly a warrior at heart.

>>15174133
>possessed by
If you go by the Tibetan monk backstory, he somehow -became- that demon parasite once he ascended past his human body, due to discarding his humanity.

The possession stuff is from Spirits, which goes with a completely different origin for him.

>>15174129
That's a very good point. Unless their mechanical parts were made of non-ferrous metals, a cyborg rider would not fair well against Fourze's magnet states, regardless of physical strength.

That's the kind of thing I was talking about, Fourze may not be strong, but he is adaptable. I think magnet weapons have been used against showa riders before, but we don't know the power output that was used, plus some showas like Amazon or Black, aren't cyborgs. It would have to come down to choosing opponents wisely.

>>15174136
>>15174129
There's also the part where Rider 1 and 2 are powered by nuclear reactors.

>>15174143
Wouldn't that make Rider 1 and 2 extremely dangerous to kill? If their reactors caused an explosion, it would be like setting off a small nuclear warhead right where they stood.

Man, that adds quite a bit of pressure to being a cyborg. They have to survive, OR ELSE.

>>15174126
A number of Heisei's also have forms based on Showa's. Does this make them AS strong as those Showas? I mean, how would Ichigou fair against both Gaim and Ghost going Ichigo form

>>15174140
Either fucking way, he's not exactly Satan, he's some other mess entirely.

>>15174139
>And while Agito is an ever-evolving god, Shouichi isn't truly a warrior at heart.
Agito nor Shouichi are warriors. They're hound dogs, meant to hunt down Lords and Els. Every single time one appears, Shouichi goes into a trance and beats the shit out of everything in the general area of the Lord with astounding competence. He doesn't even talk the entire time, he only ever spoke once in suit.

>>15174148
That's a good question. If legend rider forms only equip them with similar moves or attack, then I'd still bet on the originals, but if they boost their stats to comparable levels as the showa rider in question, then that would definitely change things in their favor.

>>15174151
The point is, he's a supernatural evil entity.

>>15174148
Gaim's Rider 1 form made him significantly stronger than Kachidoki. It has to boost his power.

>>15174136
I know thats not true, but you also have to remember a good number of Showa Rider's are partially machines, and they don't all have Stronger's magnetic abilities to protect themselves.

>>15174139
Well thats true, but then again, almost every Rider, heisei OR showa, are nice guys who won't fight unless they have to, or revolve their lives around hunting down evil. For a realistic Showa vs Heisei fight to go down, you have to get rid of the Rider's personalities, otherwise none of them would honestly fight each other, instead you leave on their quirks in battle, their tactical abilities, and their cleverness in a fight.

>>15174161
They're partially machines, but they're generally not running on regular generators. Rider 1 and 2 use nuclear reactors, V3 is based on Rider 1 and 2's tech so it's most likely the same, Riderman only has a robotic arm, Skyrider is also nuclear-powered, Super-1 is designed to be in space where all sorts of electromagnetic interference exists, Black runs off of a Kingstone which isn't really electric at all, and Black RX is bullshit.

>>15174169
True. I'll drop the Shouichi issue, but the Tendou point still stands. He's simply too skilled and smart, whereas Shinji and Kenzaki have proven to be pretty stupid and reckless.

>>15174169
In order to have them fight honestly, personalities intact, it would take some big polarizing moral issue. Heisei vs Showa had the right idea, just the wrong execution. They wouldn't fight for some petty reason like "Grrr, you darn kids/Grrr, you darn old timers".

>>15174172
I'm not talking about their power sources in response to magnetic interference, I mean they have machinery in their bodies, most likely composed of various metals. What can those Riders do if Fourze activates Magnet State and sticks 1, 2, V3 and Skyrider all together, or crushes Riderman's hand.

>>15174175
I'm thinking less along the lines of "What kind of plot point would bring this about" and more like "Heres a bunch of Rider's in an empty parking lot without any morals beyond "work together with your era" and let them go at it" The minute we start arguing over WHY these Rider's are fighting is the minute this whole hypothetical scenario falls apart over pointless bits.

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>>15174177
That's true. I think that's the one overall true weakness of being a cyborg.

They posed the same question in Terminator. Again, the only counter is whether or not the showas metal parts are non-ferrous or not. If they are, then they're non-magnetic and would not be affected. If not, they're boned. They would have to really on brute strength to resist the magnetism, which we know they are *probably* strong enough to do for a while, but it would still be a massive hindrance or catch them off guard right away.

Does anyone have the pictures of the water damage on Gills' suit? I thought i saved them but apparently not.

>>15174174
But Tendou isn't fighting other Heisei Riders, he's fighting Showa Riders, who are majorly made up of fucking SUPER geniuses in various sciences, from biology, to engineering, to chemistry, they are fucking nuts. The smartest and most intelligent Heisei Riders probably fall to Kuuga, Agito, Hibiki, Kabuto, W and Drive

>>15174182
I'd actually be more interested in a Heisei-era free-for-all. Everybody throws their versatility at each other. Of course, Decade has a gigantic advantage...

>>15174186
True, the Dragon Zodiart was incredibly strong and durable, practically untouchable by normal weapons, but once he got hit by Magnet States Limit Break he was crushed into a small bead by the sheer magnetic force. You also have to remember that Magnet State can act as a rail gun.

>>15174175
>>15174182
To Shirakura, common sense doesn't exist, so he'll go with any excuse to do TATAKAE. It's telling that his shenanigans managed to piss off Fujioka to the point that the latter strongarmed his way into the writing staff of Rider 1.

>>15174177
Magnet bullshit's been used on most of them already. The simple answer is they're so physically strong it doesn't do anything to them.

>>15174175
>In order to have them fight honestly, personalities intact, it would take some big polarizing moral issue.
The problem is that the division there wont necesarilly be Heisei vs Showa. Not to mention it would require a truly ambigous conflict to do and fiction often fails at that (because so does reality) so it always requires a bit of making the characters OOC or a bit more retarded.

>Heisei vs Showa had the right idea, just the wrong execution.
I dont see why. The issue suposedly was the Heisei Riders being too attached to the dead.....yet Hongo had V3 and Stronger on his side.

>>15174200
Also remember that when another Zodiart mimicked the dragon Zodiart, the magnet bomber didn't affect it.

If sticking to Magnet states, the railgun would be it's best weapon against anything that can't be magnetized.

>>15174195
In a Heisei free-for-all I feel like it would come down to Kuuga, Kabuto and Gaim. One has almost limitless power and can seemingly grow stronger, one is insanely fast and can even traverse time by going fast, and the last one is an actual god.

>>15174202
You can't really use past crossover experiences as proof that it doesn't work. It sounds like an unfair point, but then you need to remember that if the Magnet State DID work, most of the Showa era would have lost just against Fourze, which doesn't work very well in a movie.

>>15174205
True enough. Forgive the capeshit comparison, but it would take an event like Marvel's Civil War, and even that wouldn't would in this case because all the rider are too divided amongst themselves. Showa riders all have a loose alliance, but still prefer to work on their own whenever possible, and heisei riders are essentially just do their own thing. There's no overarching unification between them all.

>>15174175
It's the same reason old people thinks youngsters are misguided, and dangerous when they abuse their power based on emotions.
Youngsters think old people and their old "rules" sucks, lacks freedom, and should be replaced.

>>15174216
Exactly. I think a well-written Rider Civil War wouldn't be Heisei vs Showa. Instead, you'd have a mix of Heisei and Showa on each side.

>>15174211
I'm not referring to Fourze's magnet states.

I'm referring to various Shocker, Destron, and Neo-Shocker enemies that use magnetism as powers.

>>15174205
>yet Hongo had V3 and Stronger on his side.
I mean, did you see V3 angsting about his parents and sister after the first few episodes? It's not about them never losing loved ones, it's about them accepting their deaths and moving on.

>>15174221
>Instead, you'd have a mix of Heisei and Showa on each side.
You know what, that is something I would honestly like to see. I'd be curious to find out which Riders mesh well together between eras and which don't.

>>15174223
V3's dealt with angst pretty well later on. Hell, he smacked Riderman upside the head for complaining about having a fake arm and said "My entire body is fake."

>>15174223
It's still a rather loose premise for an all out war. Not every Heisei rider even has dead friends to lament over.

Like, what about Hibiki? or Den-O?

>>15174222
Oh, my bad, I thought you meant Magnet State when you said "magnet bullshit"

>>15174231
I agree on that point. It's especially strange in Wizard's case where they even bring up in the movie itself how he had already moved on when he interacts with Faiz.

>>15174225
I threw all the Riders in a randomize
>Team 1
J, Kiva, Blade, Black, Agito, Drive, X, Fourze,Super-1, Kabuto, Gaim, ZO, Ghost, Riderman, Wizard, Den-O

>Team 2
RX, Decade, Stronger, OOO, ZX, Rider 1, Rider 2, Skyrider, V3, Ex-Aid, Shin, Hibiki, Ryuki, Amazon, Faiz, Kuuga

>>15174195
> Takumi and Tendou piss each other off with each other's attitudes
> Clock-Up vs Accel
> Shinji and Kenzaki try to convince them to not fight
> The fight escalates into Hyper vs Blaster

That would be fucking cool.

>>15174250
>Blaster Exceed Charge vs Maximum Hyper Typhoon

>>15174250
>Kuuga and Gaim colliding with earth shaking hits as the power of a god goes up against the infinitely growing Kuuga
>Agito appears and makes it a three way clash that shatters mountains

Little burger bot is the greatest

>>15174250
Holy fuck, I can actually see this happening.
Shinji and Kenzaki try to break it up but one second later Takumi and Tendou have wrecked the place in super speed.

>>15174258
>Black RX impales all three on the Revolcane and then pins them to a wall, telling them that they can remove once they've calmed down

>>15174259
>Squirts ketchup at Snipe

I fucking love Ex-Aid.

>>15174268
T-that's a pretty large revolcane RX got there.

>>15174265
Tomari is called to the scene and joins the fray.

>>15174256
Throw in Trailer Cannon too

>>15174282
>Tomari is called to the scene and joins the fray.
Can type Formula compete with their speed?

>>15174293
Type Formula broke the sound barrier, so I'd say so. Same with Mach.

Can't wait to meet AU Drive

>>15174300
But Accel and Clock Up move faster than that, and Hyper even faster. The sound barrier is a small wall for Faiz and Kabuto to step over.

>>15174312
>>15174300
Can't Drive/Mach manipulate time within a certain range anyway? I know they never did it, but it was heavily implied that they were more than capable of doing so, since they used the same tech as roidmudes.

What's up with the plastic in Lvl 2 Ex-Aid's hair?
Lately it's been looking more orange-ish than usual.
Is that something similar to how white/beige old PCs/consoles/appliances yellow like crazy with age?

Kamen Rider W Double Fan
Torrent description:
-What is this?
A fan edit of the 2009-10 show Kamen Rider W. This takes the 2 parter arcs of the show and combine them into 1. Making the 49 episode series into 24 episodes.

-Why did you do this?
Because there are people out there that refuse to watch a show with 2 parter arcs, and I want to help.

DDL links to help you dl faster in the info url

who the fuck would want this?

>>15174319
bugster infection

>>15174293
According to the Rider wiki
Drive Formula
>Maximum running speed: 100 m. per 0.200 sec. (0.120 sec. at full speed)

Faiz Axel
>Maximum speed: 100m/0.0058 seconds

Can't find stats on Clock Up. So Axel is significant;y faster than Formula, but Drive has the ability to cause gravitational distortions that was almost never touched upon in the show. It's possible that could even the playing field.

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Why modern Kamen Rider can't be mature and feels like Garo?

>>15174328
Because they're shilling plastic toys using twinks.

>Juju Burger's finisher is just delivering a really good tasting burger
Okay, that was actually kinda funny.

The action in this episode of Ex-Aid is fantastic. Especially the rollerblading.

>>15174323
Lazy people

>>15174323
What is this supposed to be, condensing two episodes into 24 minutes or combining them into single 48 minute episodes ala primetime dramas?

>>15174346
I donno, I found the torrent on nyaa

>>15174223
>I mean, did you see V3 angsting about his parents and sister after the first few episodes?
He did have some angst later on. But if we get technicaly enough to actually consider whether a rider really is constantly mourning the dead........no one should be fighting anyone at freaking all. That's why I mentioned him and Stronger who had moments like that(and X and Kotaro did too now that I recall), they're some of the first that come to mind yet are on showa's side. Sure, they got over it, so did all Heisei.

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>Dan just HAD to be edgy and kill the burger
Fuck, now I really want the cunt to die.

>>15174358
Dan's fucking great, though. He literally cannot STAND to see anyone enjoy themselves in this show, it's hilarious.

>>15174358
Oh, nice, RTA is out.

>>15174358
>Literally calling himself a god next week
>We got a Kamen Rider Chronicle sneak peek
>Also Parad is now super pissed at Dan

Ex-Aid too good.

Press F to pay your respects to Burgermon

>>15174312
>But Accel and Clock Up move faster than that
Accel keeps up with Clock Up in GP
Mach keeps up with Accel
Mach actually went slower than Formula in the episode with the missiles

>>15174357
Stronger 'got over' Tackle's death literally in the next episode and then she was never mentioned again.
I know it's easier for you to just talk shit but try actually watching the stuff you complain about to fit in with the rest of the circlejerk.

>>15174189
Fuck, I forgot about those. RIP Gills, he was a good fish lizard man.

>>15174317
Nope. If you're referring to Slowdown, that's just the O-T translation. The real name is "Heavy Air."

We just got christmas'd again ;-;

>>15174366
Don't forget Emu learning he's a bugster and bursting into pixel treats!

>>15174328
>The BR who can't shut the fuck about Garo in /krg/ is back
Fuck off

I don't waifu the Kamen Rider girls, and I hope Nico leaves the show. I hope there's an actual plot to her besides from "I'm still bitter about petty shit that happened 6 years ago" and not just added to make Dad watch with his son

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>>15174382

torrent where

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hapnig

>>15174367
>Mach actually went slower than Formula in the episode with the missiles
Mach wasn't using his finisher thing in that episode though. Both Mach and Drive were shown to be able to use a super speed mode in their base forms like triggering a finisher (Drive uses it in Type Tokujou). I think that stops them from using other abilities though.

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>tfw at this rate Ex-Aid's successor won't even have an OP

FFS Toei stop taking out the OP in every episode REEEEEEEE I love the theme song kicking in the show as much as the next man but this shit is supposed to be for special occasions, even fucking Power Rangers Ninja Steel has an OP right now and America leads in retiring the opening credits.

>>15174368
>I can't read: the post
I know he did: I watched the shows anon. The writers of Showa vs Heisei clearly didn't. Please tell how every single Heisei Rider never got over any dead in their shows.

>>15174368
>Stronger 'got over' Tackle's death literally in the next episode and then she was never mentioned again.
He did stop doing his full speech at that point though, but he was doing it again by Skyrider.

>>15174394
I don't think you understand what he's even trying to say, man. Why are ESL people always trying to start shit on a predominantly English imageboard?

>>15174389
Parad wanted burgers too

>>15174393
It's because an actual plot is happening. Once it slowsb ack down around the mid-20s, we'll be dealing with the new OPs.

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>>15174384
>that little shit
>added to make Dad watch with his son

Where the fuck's our Medic, our Medusa? The Bugsters need a female executive whose name begins with "M".

>>15174389
>pallad pls no i just want to murder the fuck out of these fucking doctors and get my vidya games back
>pls stop

That new insert song is incredible. I'm so glad they're back.

>>15174398
>I don't think you understand what he's even trying to say, man.
enlighten me please. Otherwise you can't say shit.

>>15174380
I was watching Garo because Ghost is a terrible series and Amazons ended.

I finally finished all series, movies and animations and it was a fun ride.

Sorry for triggering you, anon. I enjoy both Ex-Aid and Zero Dragon Blood in this season.

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Damn Hiiro about to bang Emu right there

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So Poppy is getting her own gashat right?
Would the little assistant robot be Poppy herself?
Would that be vore?

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You all better buy Juju burger next week. Do it for Burgermon.

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>>15174423
It'd be a tiny poppybot, not Poppy herself.

>>15174407
That's a lie
Guren no Tsuki wasn't fun at all

>>15174423
It would be lewd

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>>15174423
Her gashat comes out next month
Should be cute

>>15174433
But will it appear in the show?
Will she turn into CG and fold herself around Hiiro?

>>15174423
Whatever it is it better sound like this
https://youtu.be/ZdhtoNZmaoA

>>15174430
Looks like Emu is having a bad trip

>>15174407
I'm not triggered, it's just that you were annoying then and you're annoying now. If you want to talk about Garo, there's a thread for it.

>>15174435
So Ex-aid gets a new form in 2 weeks?

>>15174434
>>15174435
>THIS IS SO UNCOOOOOOOLLLLL

>>15174445
No, Ex-Aid isn't getting a new form until March.

This will more than likely just be the manifestation of his bugster for real, rather than it just being his co-op buddy.

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>>15174436

>>15174435
Pretty sure the new forms for Brave and Snipe come first.

>>15174431
At least we had Seimei for fapping, but yeah, old japanese history is boring.

>>15174434
>>15174435
WHY WHY WHY WHY

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>>15174452
Season 3 when?

>>15174450
>"M"
>"Emu"
>"I'm not completely you, but we're still kind of eachother."
>"Alright, well I'm gonna go ahead and fuck around at the arcade for a while, you can keep pretending to be a doctor."

>>15174453
meant for >>15174445

>>15174435
RIP Emu "Score for the leaderboards>Using a continue"

>>15174458
W but not?

>>15174358
So Dan = Medic, Burgermon = 072?

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/m/ is dead because the new precure show is airing?

>>15174435
so why didn't kiriya had this?

>>15173596
Not him but:

GOD TIER:
Accel Trial
Zeronos Zero
Knight Survive

GOOD TIER:
G3-X
Spectre (Sin/Shin, not Deep)
Garren Jack

MEH TIER:
Baron Lemon Energy Arms
Mach Chaser
Gatack Hyper
Ixa Rising

UGLY TIER:
Meteor Storm
Birth Day
Beast Hyper
Diend Complete

>>15174496
Because Kiriya didn't have a bugster in him.

>>15174498
>Zeronos Zero above meh
>G3-X below anything

Otherwise I mostly agree.

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>>15174498
>Liking the form that is literally a repaint over Rising.

Delet this

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>>15174498
>Red Zeronos
>God Tier
Denebick Buster is cool, but c'mon even Vega form is cooler than Zero form

/krg/ what makes a good monster design in your opinion?

>>15174498
>>15174538
I mean, I liked what Zero form represented, but it was just a bronze recolor of Zeronos

>>15174551
Being able to look cool while beating the shit out of a Rider.

Also a coherent theme that follows the show.

My main problem with Sentai is most of the major villains often-times don't have designs that don't really match a theme, like Genis in Zyuoh.

That new insert song sounded great

>>15174560
So from that criteria, which monsters are your favorite?

>>15174551
Nothing too over complicated, nor obnoxious. I like slim monsters without a lot of stuff just hanging off them, like how Sentai monsters are usually obnoxious in that regard, with random bits and pieces hanging off them. Top heavy monsters aren't usually my cup of tea either.

>>15174597
I like the unevolved Roidmude suits, the Collabos Bugsters, the Fangire, and the Lords.

>>15174603
Like...Den-O's Imagin?

>>15174612
The Imagin are good. The Roidmudes were good too. I don't mind large bodied monsters though, as long as the design is balanced throughout

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please, don't be true.

>>15174637
It's true. Precure is donezo.

>>15174067
At least J does the giant thing. What's poor ZO known for? retracting teeth and head smoke? Doras? Talking to bugs?

>>15174637
No more punching and kicking
Only magical attacks and wackiness now
Holy shit that's my post

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i like when his eyes got all bulgey

>>15174481
Full pic where? Artist name would be nice.

>>15174655
>What's poor ZO known for?
Punching a fucking hole in someone's chest and basically Amemiya getting to go all out on the movie

>>15174664
>Satou Shouji

>>15174664
Its Inazuma/Satou Shouji, the guy from Triage-X and HOTD.

>>15174675
>>15174676
Oh snap. That's why the style was familiar. Thanks dudes.

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KIMI GA KOKORO NO SUBETE WO

>>15174709
KARADA NO BOROBORO DA

>>15173721
I felt physical pain reading this.

>>15174434
>>15174435
>Episode 18
>Main Rider is going to "die" and then reborn with new form

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I lived, bitch

wtf i tot today episode supposed to be FUN

>>15174695
this is funny to me, but i dont get it

>>15174734
So was Christmas, and look how that turned out.

>>15174730
for a while

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>>15174734
thanks konami

>>15174740
meant to reply this
>>15174734

>>15174743
But you DID reply to it

>>15174740
>man with dangerous zombies: "i am growing stronger"

>>15174746
shit, i fucked up